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Change in pen behavior over one writing session?
Hey all,
Writing about dip pens got me to thinking about a question I have had for a while. I have a set of steel very flexible medium point steel dip pens. They work great, but I notice that over time, when using Encre Authentique, the behavior of the writing changes. That is, when I start writing for the first 15 minutes I suppose, the ink flows a certain way, and then I notice that the ink seems to start flowing more heavily, and has a slightly higher chance of globbing or jumping off the pen. Is this an issue that is random, known, solvable? Is it due to the pen or the ink? It's not so much of a problem, but it does require me to adjust the way I write partially through my writing session. Sort of how Mont Blancs change slightly when they have been writing continuously for a bit. -- Aaron Hsu | Jabber: ``Government is the great fiction through which everybody endeavors to live at the expense of everybody else.'' - Frederic Bastiat |
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Change in pen behavior over one writing session?
I would be the last person to be right, but if you clean the nib, does
the cycle start anew? John Aaron Hsu wrote: Hey all, Writing about dip pens got me to thinking about a question I have had for a while. I have a set of steel very flexible medium point steel dip pens. They work great, but I notice that over time, when using Encre Authentique, the behavior of the writing changes. That is, when I start writing for the first 15 minutes I suppose, the ink flows a certain way, and then I notice that the ink seems to start flowing more heavily, and has a slightly higher chance of globbing or jumping off the pen. Is this an issue that is random, known, solvable? Is it due to the pen or the ink? It's not so much of a problem, but it does require me to adjust the way I write partially through my writing session. Sort of how Mont Blancs change slightly when they have been writing continuously for a bit. |
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Change in pen behavior over one writing session?
The Visitor wrote:
Aaron Hsu wrote: Hey all, Writing about dip pens got me to thinking about a question I have had for a while. I have a set of steel very flexible medium point steel dip pens. They work great, but I notice that over time, when using Encre Authentique, the behavior of the writing changes. That is, when I start writing for the first 15 minutes I suppose, the ink flows a certain way, and then I notice that the ink seems to start flowing more heavily, and has a slightly higher chance of globbing or jumping off the pen. Is this an issue that is random, known, solvable? Is it due to the pen or the ink? It's not so much of a problem, but it does require me to adjust the way I write partially through my writing session. Sort of how Mont Blancs change slightly when they have been writing continuously for a bit. I would be the last person to be right, but if you clean the nib, does the cycle start anew? I have tried that, and sometimes it does, but then I can see debris on the nib. :-) Usually, I don't notice that much of a change. -- Aaron Hsu | Jabber: ``Government is the great fiction through which everybody endeavors to live at the expense of everybody else.'' - Frederic Bastiat |
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Change in pen behavior over one writing session?
On May 31, 5:26 pm, (Aaron Hsu) wrote:
The Visitor wrote: Aaron Hsu wrote: Hey all, Writing about dip pens got me to thinking about a question I have had for a while. I have a set of steel very flexible medium point steel dip pens. They work great, but I notice that over time, when using Encre Authentique, the behavior of the writing changes. That is, when I start writing for the first 15 minutes I suppose, the ink flows a certain way, and then I notice that the ink seems to start flowing more heavily, and has a slightly higher chance of globbing or jumping off the pen. Is this an issue that is random, known, solvable? Is it due to the pen or the ink? It's not so much of a problem, but it does require me to adjust the way I write partially through my writing session. Sort of how Mont Blancs change slightly when they have been writing continuously for a bit. I would be the last person to be right, but if you clean the nib, does the cycle start anew? I have tried that, and sometimes it does, but then I can see debris on the nib. :-) Usually, I don't notice that much of a change. -- Aaron Hsu | Jabber: ``Government is the great fiction through which everybody endeavors to live at the expense of everybody else.'' - Frederic Bastiat 1. With longer writing, you are pressing down more, softening the flex nib, making the tines separate more. 2. With longer writing, your hand is transferring warmth to the ink,making it flo more easily. 3. WIth longer writing, you are picking up more paper crap into your nib. If you want to dip,switch to a glass pen. |
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Change in pen behavior over one writing session?
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JimL wrote: 1. With longer writing, you are pressing down more, softening the flex nib, making the tines separate more. 2. With longer writing, your hand is transferring warmth to the ink,making it flo more easily. 3. WIth longer writing, you are picking up more paper crap into your nib. To me, only (3) sounds like a genuine physical phenomenon. I don't think that a spring can "soften" during use, then recover. And if (2) were occurring, then it seems like If you want to dip,switch to a glass pen. would make it worse. Instead of a relatively poor thermal connection between a wood handle and the pen, you'd have a continuous piece of glass. Brian -- |
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Change in pen behavior over one writing session?
On 2008-06-03, Brian Ketterling wrote:
In , JimL wrote: 1. With longer writing, you are pressing down more, softening the flex nib, making the tines separate more. 2. With longer writing, your hand is transferring warmth to the ink,making it flo more easily. 3. WIth longer writing, you are picking up more paper crap into your nib. To me, only (3) sounds like a genuine physical phenomenon. I don't think that a spring can "soften" during use, then recover. And if (2) were occurring, then it seems like Is 1 even possible...must get out my metalurgy book later... |
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Change in pen behavior over one writing session?
On Jun 3, 5:22*am, MatthewK wrote:
On 2008-06-03, Brian Ketterling wrote: , JimL wrote: 1. *With longer writing, you are pressing down more, softening the flex nib, making the tines separate more. 2. With longer writing, your hand is transferring warmth to the ink,making it flo more easily. 3. WIth longer writing, you are picking up more paper crap into your nib. To me, only (3) sounds like a genuine physical phenomenon. *I don't think that a spring can "soften" during use, then recover. *And if (2) were occurring, then it seems like Is 1 even possible...must get out my metalurgy book later... Your hands are made of metal? gee! |
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Change in pen behavior over one writing session?
I ahve the thought that it could be, as you write, the ink is somewhat
drying on the nib. Causing a build-up of "thicker ink" hanging on the nib allowing it to hold less "fresh ink". Fresh meaning having a more correct amount of solvent. Just a thought, and I suppose it could be worse if the ink has built up some "open time" in the bottle, thicking it that much more. Thoughts? John Aaron Hsu wrote: The Visitor wrote: Aaron Hsu wrote: Hey all, Writing about dip pens got me to thinking about a question I have had for a while. I have a set of steel very flexible medium point steel dip pens. They work great, but I notice that over time, when using Encre Authentique, the behavior of the writing changes. That is, when I start writing for the first 15 minutes I suppose, the ink flows a certain way, and then I notice that the ink seems to start flowing more heavily, and has a slightly higher chance of globbing or jumping off the pen. Is this an issue that is random, known, solvable? Is it due to the pen or the ink? It's not so much of a problem, but it does require me to adjust the way I write partially through my writing session. Sort of how Mont Blancs change slightly when they have been writing continuously for a bit. I would be the last person to be right, but if you clean the nib, does the cycle start anew? I have tried that, and sometimes it does, but then I can see debris on the nib. :-) Usually, I don't notice that much of a change. |
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Change in pen behavior over one writing session?
The Visitor wrote:
Aaron Hsu wrote: The Visitor wrote: Aaron Hsu wrote: Hey all, Writing about dip pens got me to thinking about a question I have had for a while. I have a set of steel very flexible medium point steel dip pens. They work great, but I notice that over time, when using Encre Authentique, the behavior of the writing changes. That is, when I start writing for the first 15 minutes I suppose, the ink flows a certain way, and then I notice that the ink seems to start flowing more heavily, and has a slightly higher chance of globbing or jumping off the pen. Is this an issue that is random, known, solvable? Is it due to the pen or the ink? It's not so much of a problem, but it does require me to adjust the way I write partially through my writing session. Sort of how Mont Blancs change slightly when they have been writing continuously for a bit. I would be the last person to be right, but if you clean the nib, does the cycle start anew? I have tried that, and sometimes it does, but then I can see debris on the nib. :-) Usually, I don't notice that much of a change. I ahve the thought that it could be, as you write, the ink is somewhat drying on the nib. Causing a build-up of "thicker ink" hanging on the nib allowing it to hold less "fresh ink". Fresh meaning having a more correct amount of solvent. Just a thought, and I suppose it could be worse if the ink has built up some "open time" in the bottle, thicking it that much more. Thoughts? I have thought that this could be the case, but I have not tested it. Next time I do some writing, I will test it with more frequent nib wipes, and see if it changes the dynamic any. -- Aaron Hsu | Jabber: ``Government is the great fiction through which everybody endeavors to live at the expense of everybody else.'' - Frederic Bastiat |
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Change in pen behavior over one writing session?
JimL wrote:
On May 31, 5:26 pm, (Aaron Hsu) wrote: The Visitor wrote: Aaron Hsu wrote: Hey all, Writing about dip pens got me to thinking about a question I have had for a while. I have a set of steel very flexible medium point steel dip pens. They work great, but I notice that over time, when using Encre Authentique, the behavior of the writing changes. That is, when I start writing for the first 15 minutes I suppose, the ink flows a certain way, and then I notice that the ink seems to start flowing more heavily, and has a slightly higher chance of globbing or jumping off the pen. Is this an issue that is random, known, solvable? Is it due to the pen or the ink? It's not so much of a problem, but it does require me to adjust the way I write partially through my writing session. Sort of how Mont Blancs change slightly when they have been writing continuously for a bit. I would be the last person to be right, but if you clean the nib, does the cycle start anew? I have tried that, and sometimes it does, but then I can see debris on the nib. :-) Usually, I don't notice that much of a change. -- Aaron Hsu | Jabber: ``Government is the great fiction through which everybody endeavors to live at the expense of everybody else.'' - Frederic Bastiat 1. With longer writing, you are pressing down more, softening the flex nib, making the tines separate more. 2. With longer writing, your hand is transferring warmth to the ink,making it flo more easily. 3. WIth longer writing, you are picking up more paper crap into your nib. If you want to dip,switch to a glass pen. That's quite impossible. Glass pens are nice, but I won't get the right feel for which I am looking, specifically, I want the nib to splay when I press down. :-) Spencerian is harder to do with glass pens. As for point one, I can see then, but if that were really the case, I would expect the tines to stay splayed, but they do not. Are you saying that writing can warm a pen enough to change its shape, I really don't believe this, because the pen is never very warm. Do you have a reference? Three sounds more reasonable. -- Aaron Hsu | Jabber: ``Government is the great fiction through which everybody endeavors to live at the expense of everybody else.'' - Frederic Bastiat |
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