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Old January 7th 08, 09:04 AM posted to alt.collecting.8-track-tapes,alt.politics,alt.politics.democrats,alt.politics.republican,alt.fan.rush-limbaugh
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Default Hillary takes off the gloves, Obama keeps turning pages

Looks like Hillary found the gear shift lever on her campaign's
transmission in Nashua tonight, bludgeoning Obama over his votes for
"Dick Cheney's energy bill" and other untoward votes he cast in his
short Senate tenure. From the reports, this got the crowd going
pretty good. Meanwhile, Obama's still stuck on the "turn the page"
message with no policy specifics at all in Manchester...which has
worked well for him up until now, but may run him aground soon, if he
cannot both defend his own voting record and bash Hillary's at the
same time. Dems are also rumoring that Clinton has a batch of new
Obama negative ads to unleash on Manchester and Nashua TV stations
Monday.

Well, she's going to need all the help she can get, according to
Gallup's latest statewide numbers. Obama has pulled ahead to 41% of
likely primary voters (no specificity as to whether Dems or
"unaffiliateds"), with Clinton down to 28% from 33% prior to her Iowa
thrashing. Edwards is slipping again, down to 19% now, predictable in
a state where there are virtually no "blue collar" workers left, and
70% of the state's economy consists of what scraps the small
businesses can throw together. With only hours left until the
balloting, the question isn't whether Clinton can or cannot campaign
hard enough to beat Obama (she can't...not enough time, not enough
"Hillaries" to go around to all the events needed to make up 14% in a
couple of days) but, rather, how many votes will McCain siphon away
from Obama (or vice versa!) among the "unaffiliateds."

That would be a bigger mover in percentage of total votes than would
anything Hillary could do now, and McCain's obviously on a roll in the
state. The formerly "unsinkable S.S. Romney" is now taking on water,
much to the horror of party regulars like the seeming closet gay Ken
Mehlman, who ran Bush's dirty tricks campaign in 2004 at the behest of
Karl Rove.

Mehlman reminds me of another gay blade of politics, this one of the
1950s...the disgustingly vile Ray Cohn, who was Joe McCarthy's (R-WI)
hatchet man/lawyer. Cohn was a real piece of mentally scrambled work
who died of complications of hepatitis (which one, we don't know now)
contracted most likely from his weird habit of eating left-behind food
off of other peoples' plates at any dinner function he attended.

Meanwhile, the GOPher operatives have started to really get worried
that this thing about Bush destroying their party is the real deal.
Read for yourself, from no less credible a writer than Ron Fornier of
AP:

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20080104/...n_deadline_gop

Dan Rather's right...it's still VERY early in the game, and "Tsunami
Tuesday" has changed the game from a state-by-state contest to a
semi-national "pre-election" event. Remember, Iowa has only a 75%
correct record of picking the eventual nominee for either party, and
this is the first "wide open" election since 1952. The "rules" are
out the window, and the GOP's standard bearer now in the White House
is in the worst shape in approval of ANY sitting U.S. President since
scientific polling started in the 1940s.

Those who remember their history will recall that Iowa and New
Hampshire both thought that it would be Estes Kefauver for the
Democrats in '52, but the big states picked Adlai Stevenson. No
matter, Kefauver would've lost probably even worse to Ike, whose
election, in retrospect, was a "prize" awarded by the American people
for his job as supreme commander of the European theater in WWII. As
it turned out, he was nothing more than a caretaker in office...which
is probably what people wanted at the time. Corporate clowns used
Ike's laissez-faire presidency to at least partially restore their
control over the government they lost under FDR and HST. It's that
"corporate control" that's fueling a great deal of Obama's rise to
prominence now, believe it or not.
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Old January 7th 08, 02:29 PM posted to alt.collecting.8-track-tapes, alt.politics, alt.politics.democrats,alt.politics.republican, alt.fan.rush-limbaugh
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Default Obama rockets past Hillary in New Hampshire- replay of Iowa !

On Jan 7, 3:04*am, DeserTBoB wrote:
Looks like Hillary found the gear shift lever on her campaign's
transmission in Nashua tonight, bludgeoning Obama over his votes for
"Dick Cheney's energy bill" and other untoward votes he cast in his
short Senate tenure. *From the reports, this got the crowd going
pretty good. *Meanwhile, Obama's still stuck on the "turn the page"
message with no policy specifics at all in Manchester...which has
worked well for him up until now, but may run him aground soon, if he
cannot both defend his own voting record and bash Hillary's at the
same time. *Dems are also rumoring that Clinton has a batch of new
Obama negative ads to unleash on Manchester and Nashua TV stations
Monday.

Well, she's going to need all the help she can get, according to
Gallup's latest statewide numbers. *Obama has pulled ahead to 41% of
likely primary voters (no specificity as to whether Dems or
"unaffiliateds"), with Clinton down to 28% from 33% prior to her Iowa
thrashing. *Edwards is slipping again, down to 19% now, predictable in
a state where there are virtually no "blue collar" workers left, and
70% of the state's economy consists of *what scraps the small
businesses can throw together. *With only hours left until the
balloting, the question isn't whether Clinton can or cannot campaign
hard enough to beat Obama (she can't...not enough time, not enough
"Hillaries" to go around to all the events needed to make up 14% in a
couple of days) but, rather, how many votes will McCain siphon away
from Obama (or vice versa!) among the "unaffiliateds."

That would be a bigger mover in percentage of total votes than would
anything Hillary could do now, and McCain's obviously on a roll in the
state. *The formerly "unsinkable S.S. Romney" is now taking on water,
much to the horror of party regulars like the seeming closet gay Ken
Mehlman, who ran Bush's dirty tricks campaign in 2004 at the behest of
Karl Rove.

Mehlman reminds me of another gay blade of politics, this one of the
1950s...the disgustingly vile Ray Cohn, who was Joe McCarthy's (R-WI)
hatchet man/lawyer. *Cohn was a real piece of mentally scrambled work
who died of complications of hepatitis (which one, we don't know now)
contracted most likely from his weird habit of eating left-behind food
off of other peoples' plates at any dinner function he attended.

Meanwhile, the GOPher operatives have started to really get worried
that this thing about Bush destroying their party is the real deal.
Read for yourself, from no less credible a writer than Ron Fornier of
AP:

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20080104/...n_deadline_gop

Dan Rather's right...it's still VERY early in the game, and "Tsunami
Tuesday" has changed the game from a state-by-state contest to a
semi-national "pre-election" event. *Remember, Iowa has only a 75%
correct record of picking the eventual nominee for either party, and
this is the first "wide open" election since 1952. *The "rules" are
out the window, and the GOP's standard bearer now in the White House
is in the worst shape in approval of ANY sitting U.S. President since
scientific polling started in the 1940s.

Those who remember their history will recall that Iowa and New
Hampshire both thought that it would be Estes Kefauver for the
Democrats in '52, but the big states picked Adlai Stevenson. *No
matter, Kefauver would've lost probably even worse to Ike, whose
election, in retrospect, was a "prize" awarded by the American people
for his job as supreme commander of the European theater in WWII. *As
it turned out, he was nothing more than a caretaker in office...which
is probably what people wanted at the time. *Corporate clowns used
Ike's laissez-faire presidency to at least partially restore their
control over the government they lost under FDR and HST. *It's that
"corporate control" that's fueling a great deal of Obama's rise to
prominence now, believe it or not.


http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20080107/...ics_poll_col_1

and out comes the far-left RACISM of DeserTBob, just like the rest of
the left wing fringers....exactly like Rush Limbaugh stated- the
lefties are all for equality, until someone of color surpasses them-
then they attack them- even if they belong to their own party

If I was a Democrat strategist, I'd run Obama as president, and
Richardson as VP- at least they look more presidential and
professional than Hillary and the Bret-girl

what is more important is, how presidential all the Republican
candidates looked, compared to the Democrats- I would take any
Republican candidate at this point, over the Dems

obvious outcome- another Republican in the White House in 2009

  #3  
Old January 7th 08, 02:34 PM posted to alt.collecting.8-track-tapes, alt.politics, alt.politics.democrats,alt.politics.republican, alt.fan.rush-limbaugh
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Default Hillary dead player in New Hampshire as well, dittos her Iowa loss toObama

On Jan 7, 3:04*am, DeserTBoB wrote:
Looks like Hillary found the gear shift lever on her campaign's
transmission in Nashua tonight, bludgeoning Obama over his votes for
"Dick Cheney's energy bill" and other untoward votes he cast in his
short Senate tenure. *From the reports, this got the crowd going
pretty good. *Meanwhile, Obama's still stuck on the "turn the page"
message with no policy specifics at all in Manchester...which has
worked well for him up until now, but may run him aground soon, if he
cannot both defend his own voting record and bash Hillary's at the
same time. *Dems are also rumoring that Clinton has a batch of new
Obama negative ads to unleash on Manchester and Nashua TV stations
Monday.

Well, she's going to need all the help she can get, according to
Gallup's latest statewide numbers. *Obama has pulled ahead to 41% of
likely primary voters (no specificity as to whether Dems or
"unaffiliateds"), with Clinton down to 28% from 33% prior to her Iowa
thrashing. *Edwards is slipping again, down to 19% now, predictable in
a state where there are virtually no "blue collar" workers left, and
70% of the state's economy consists of *what scraps the small
businesses can throw together. *With only hours left until the
balloting, the question isn't whether Clinton can or cannot campaign
hard enough to beat Obama (she can't...not enough time, not enough
"Hillaries" to go around to all the events needed to make up 14% in a
couple of days) but, rather, how many votes will McCain siphon away
from Obama (or vice versa!) among the "unaffiliateds."

That would be a bigger mover in percentage of total votes than would
anything Hillary could do now, and McCain's obviously on a roll in the
state. *The formerly "unsinkable S.S. Romney" is now taking on water,
much to the horror of party regulars like the seeming closet gay Ken
Mehlman, who ran Bush's dirty tricks campaign in 2004 at the behest of
Karl Rove.

Mehlman reminds me of another gay blade of politics, this one of the
1950s...the disgustingly vile Ray Cohn, who was Joe McCarthy's (R-WI)
hatchet man/lawyer. *Cohn was a real piece of mentally scrambled work
who died of complications of hepatitis (which one, we don't know now)
contracted most likely from his weird habit of eating left-behind food
off of other peoples' plates at any dinner function he attended.

Meanwhile, the GOPher operatives have started to really get worried
that this thing about Bush destroying their party is the real deal.
Read for yourself, from no less credible a writer than Ron Fornier of
AP:

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20080104/...n_deadline_gop

Dan Rather's right...it's still VERY early in the game, and "Tsunami
Tuesday" has changed the game from a state-by-state contest to a
semi-national "pre-election" event. *Remember, Iowa has only a 75%
correct record of picking the eventual nominee for either party, and
this is the first "wide open" election since 1952. *The "rules" are
out the window, and the GOP's standard bearer now in the White House
is in the worst shape in approval of ANY sitting U.S. President since
scientific polling started in the 1940s.

Those who remember their history will recall that Iowa and New
Hampshire both thought that it would be Estes Kefauver for the
Democrats in '52, but the big states picked Adlai Stevenson. *No
matter, Kefauver would've lost probably even worse to Ike, whose
election, in retrospect, was a "prize" awarded by the American people
for his job as supreme commander of the European theater in WWII. *As
it turned out, he was nothing more than a caretaker in office...which
is probably what people wanted at the time. *Corporate clowns used
Ike's laissez-faire presidency to at least partially restore their
control over the government they lost under FDR and HST. *It's that
"corporate control" that's fueling a great deal of Obama's rise to
prominence now, believe it or not.




Like I said before, this is why you can't believe ANYTHING DeserTBob
says- he's obviously in his own world, and only reads what he wants to
read

Why did the press just report 2 hours ago, that Obama ROCKETS PAST
Hillary in New Hampshire ?? Will it turn out that DeserTBob is WRONG-
AGAIN ??

perhaps- time will tell- sure is starting to look that way !

http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20080107/...ics_poll_col_1

MANCHESTER, New Hampshire (Reuters) - Democrat Barack Obama rocketed
to a 10-point lead over Hillary Clinton in New Hampshire one day
before their showdown in the state's presidential primary, according
to a Reuters/C-SPAN/Zogby poll released on Monday.

Republican Sen. John McCain of Arizona also began to pull away from
rival Mitt Romney, opening a five-point lead on the Massachusetts
governor as what had been tight races in both parties began to open
up.

This is the first of the rolling New Hampshire polls taken entirely
after last week's caucuses in Iowa, where Obama and Republican Mike
Huckabee scored breakthrough wins that left Clinton and Romney
reeling.

Obama, an Illinois senator bidding to make history as the first black
U.S. president, gained 11 points on Clinton to lead the one-time
Democratic front-runner 39 percent to 29 percent. Former North
Carolina Sen. John Edwards was third with 19 percent.

"This is a breathtaking movement in Obama's direction," said pollster
John Zogby. "It's a surge for Obama and movement away from Clinton."

He said the rush toward Obama was even more pronounced in the one day
of polling after Saturday's Democratic debate in Manchester, where
Clinton went on the attack against Obama and drew a rebuke from
Edwards.

"It's almost Iowa redux," Zogby said. "In the closing days in Iowa we
saw Clinton losing her strong support among women, liberals and
Democrats, and it's happening again."

He said Obama had a big and growing lead among independents and held
the edge among young voters, moderates and union members.

The rolling poll of 844 likely Democratic voters and 834 likely
Republican voters was taken Friday through Sunday. It has a margin of
error of 3.4 percentage points.

NEXT BATTLEGROUND

New Hampshire's primary on Tuesday is the next battleground in the
state-by-state process of choosing Republican and Democratic
candidates for November's election to replace President George W.
Bush.

The pressure is on Clinton and Romney to revive their campaigns after
disappointing showings in Iowa, and a second consecutive loss for
either could doom their comebacks.

Clinton, the New York senator and former first lady, finished third in
Iowa. Romney, who at one time led polls in Iowa and New Hampshire,
finished second.

McCain sailed past Romney in the new poll to open a five-point lead at
34 percent to 29 percent. Huckabee, a Baptist minister and former
Arkansas governor, dropped back slightly to 10 percent, barely holding
third place over former New York Mayor Rudy Giuliani at 9 percent.

"It was a big day for McCain," Zogby said. "He maintains a very big
lead among independents, but his problem is that he won't draw as many
independents as he did in 2000."

McCain won the state's primary that year with help from a surge of
independent support, but eventually lost the Republican nomination to
Bush.

About 6 percent in each party remain undecided, according to the New
Hampshire poll.

In the Democratic race, former New Mexico Gov. Bill Richardson was in
fourth place at 6 percent, ahead of Ohio Rep. Dennis Kucinich at 2
percent.

In the Republican race, Texas Rep. Ron Paul was at 6 percent. Former
Tennessee Sen. Fred Thompson was at 3 percent and California Rep.
Duncan Hunter was at 1 percent.

The rolling tracking poll will continue one more day until New
Hampshire's vote on Tuesday. In a rolling poll, the most recent day's
results are added while the oldest day's results are dropped in order
to track changing momentum.



  #4  
Old January 7th 08, 02:54 PM posted to alt.collecting.8-track-tapes, alt.politics, alt.politics.democrats,alt.politics.republican, alt.fan.rush-limbaugh
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Default Obama rockets past Hillary in New Hampshire- replay of Iowa !

On 7 jan, 11:29, trippin-2-8-track wrote:
On Jan 7, 3:04*am, DeserTBoB wrote:





Looks like Hillary found the gear shift lever on her campaign's
transmission in Nashua tonight, bludgeoning Obama over his votes for
"Dick Cheney's energy bill" and other untoward votes he cast in his
short Senate tenure. *From the reports, this got the crowd going
pretty good. *Meanwhile, Obama's still stuck on the "turn the page"
message with no policy specifics at all in Manchester...which has
worked well for him up until now, but may run him aground soon, if he
cannot both defend his own voting record and bash Hillary's at the
same time. *Dems are also rumoring that Clinton has a batch of new
Obama negative ads to unleash on Manchester and Nashua TV stations
Monday.


Well, she's going to need all the help she can get, according to
Gallup's latest statewide numbers. *Obama has pulled ahead to 41% of
likely primary voters (no specificity as to whether Dems or
"unaffiliateds"), with Clinton down to 28% from 33% prior to her Iowa
thrashing. *Edwards is slipping again, down to 19% now, predictable in
a state where there are virtually no "blue collar" workers left, and
70% of the state's economy consists of *what scraps the small
businesses can throw together. *With only hours left until the
balloting, the question isn't whether Clinton can or cannot campaign
hard enough to beat Obama (she can't...not enough time, not enough
"Hillaries" to go around to all the events needed to make up 14% in a
couple of days) but, rather, how many votes will McCain siphon away
from Obama (or vice versa!) among the "unaffiliateds."


That would be a bigger mover in percentage of total votes than would
anything Hillary could do now, and McCain's obviously on a roll in the
state. *The formerly "unsinkable S.S. Romney" is now taking on water,
much to the horror of party regulars like the seeming closet gay Ken
Mehlman, who ran Bush's dirty tricks campaign in 2004 at the behest of
Karl Rove.


Mehlman reminds me of another gay blade of politics, this one of the
1950s...the disgustingly vile Ray Cohn, who was Joe McCarthy's (R-WI)
hatchet man/lawyer. *Cohn was a real piece of mentally scrambled work
who died of complications of hepatitis (which one, we don't know now)
contracted most likely from his weird habit of eating left-behind food
off of other peoples' plates at any dinner function he attended.


Meanwhile, the GOPher operatives have started to really get worried
that this thing about Bush destroying their party is the real deal.
Read for yourself, from no less credible a writer than Ron Fornier of
AP:


http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20080104/...n_deadline_gop


Dan Rather's right...it's still VERY early in the game, and "Tsunami
Tuesday" has changed the game from a state-by-state contest to a
semi-national "pre-election" event. *Remember, Iowa has only a 75%
correct record of picking the eventual nominee for either party, and
this is the first "wide open" election since 1952. *The "rules" are
out the window, and the GOP's standard bearer now in the White House
is in the worst shape in approval of ANY sitting U.S. President since
scientific polling started in the 1940s.


Those who remember their history will recall that Iowa and New
Hampshire both thought that it would be Estes Kefauver for the
Democrats in '52, but the big states picked Adlai Stevenson. *No
matter, Kefauver would've lost probably even worse to Ike, whose
election, in retrospect, was a "prize" awarded by the American people
for his job as supreme commander of the European theater in WWII. *As
it turned out, he was nothing more than a caretaker in office...which
is probably what people wanted at the time. *Corporate clowns used
Ike's laissez-faire presidency to at least partially restore their
control over the government they lost under FDR and HST. *It's that
"corporate control" that's fueling a great deal of Obama's rise to
prominence now, believe it or not.


http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20080107/..._usa_politics_...

and out comes the far-left RACISM of DeserTBob, just like the rest of
the left wing fringers....exactly like Rush Limbaugh stated- the
lefties are all for equality, until someone of color surpasses them-
then they attack them- even if they belong to their own party

If I was a Democrat strategist, I'd run Obama as president, and
Richardson as VP- at least they look more presidential and
professional than Hillary and the Bret-girl

what is more important is, how presidential all the Republican
candidates looked, compared to the Democrats- I would take any
Republican candidate at this point, over the Dems

obvious outcome- another Republican in the White House in 2009- Ocultar texto entre aspas -


The Zogby poll shows Obama has a 2-1 lead over Hillary among men (all
ages included) in NH, whereas her lead among women is considerably
narrower (something like 4 points only). With all the talk about how
difficult it would be for a black candidate (Obama) to win white
states, pundits failed to consider a much more important phenomenon,
namely that there are still many male as well as conservative female
voters in America who are not comfortable yet with the idea of a woman
as POTUS !

Racism is indeed still a major issue in the IS, but it fades in
comparison to sexism.
  #5  
Old January 7th 08, 03:26 PM posted to alt.collecting.8-track-tapes, alt.politics, alt.politics.democrats,alt.politics.republican, alt.fan.rush-limbaugh
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Default Obama rockets past Hillary in New Hampshire- replay of Iowa !

On Jan 7, 8:29 am, trippin-2-8-track wrote:
On Jan 7, 3:04 am, DeserTBoB wrote:



Looks like Hillary found the gear shift lever on her campaign's
transmission in Nashua tonight, bludgeoning Obama over his votes for
"Dick Cheney's energy bill" and other untoward votes he cast in his
short Senate tenure. From the reports, this got the crowd going
pretty good. Meanwhile, Obama's still stuck on the "turn the page"
message with no policy specifics at all in Manchester...which has
worked well for him up until now, but may run him aground soon, if he
cannot both defend his own voting record and bash Hillary's at the
same time. Dems are also rumoring that Clinton has a batch of new
Obama negative ads to unleash on Manchester and Nashua TV stations
Monday.


Well, she's going to need all the help she can get, according to
Gallup's latest statewide numbers. Obama has pulled ahead to 41% of
likely primary voters (no specificity as to whether Dems or
"unaffiliateds"), with Clinton down to 28% from 33% prior to her Iowa
thrashing. Edwards is slipping again, down to 19% now, predictable in
a state where there are virtually no "blue collar" workers left, and
70% of the state's economy consists of what scraps the small
businesses can throw together. With only hours left until the
balloting, the question isn't whether Clinton can or cannot campaign
hard enough to beat Obama (she can't...not enough time, not enough
"Hillaries" to go around to all the events needed to make up 14% in a
couple of days) but, rather, how many votes will McCain siphon away
from Obama (or vice versa!) among the "unaffiliateds."


That would be a bigger mover in percentage of total votes than would
anything Hillary could do now, and McCain's obviously on a roll in the
state. The formerly "unsinkable S.S. Romney" is now taking on water,
much to the horror of party regulars like the seeming closet gay Ken
Mehlman, who ran Bush's dirty tricks campaign in 2004 at the behest of
Karl Rove.


Mehlman reminds me of another gay blade of politics, this one of the
1950s...the disgustingly vile Ray Cohn, who was Joe McCarthy's (R-WI)
hatchet man/lawyer. Cohn was a real piece of mentally scrambled work
who died of complications of hepatitis (which one, we don't know now)
contracted most likely from his weird habit of eating left-behind food
off of other peoples' plates at any dinner function he attended.


Meanwhile, the GOPher operatives have started to really get worried
that this thing about Bush destroying their party is the real deal.
Read for yourself, from no less credible a writer than Ron Fornier of
AP:


http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20080104/...n_deadline_gop


Dan Rather's right...it's still VERY early in the game, and "Tsunami
Tuesday" has changed the game from a state-by-state contest to a
semi-national "pre-election" event. Remember, Iowa has only a 75%
correct record of picking the eventual nominee for either party, and
this is the first "wide open" election since 1952. The "rules" are
out the window, and the GOP's standard bearer now in the White House
is in the worst shape in approval of ANY sitting U.S. President since
scientific polling started in the 1940s.


Those who remember their history will recall that Iowa and New
Hampshire both thought that it would be Estes Kefauver for the
Democrats in '52, but the big states picked Adlai Stevenson. No
matter, Kefauver would've lost probably even worse to Ike, whose
election, in retrospect, was a "prize" awarded by the American people
for his job as supreme commander of the European theater in WWII. As
it turned out, he was nothing more than a caretaker in office...which
is probably what people wanted at the time. Corporate clowns used
Ike's laissez-faire presidency to at least partially restore their
control over the government they lost under FDR and HST. It's that
"corporate control" that's fueling a great deal of Obama's rise to
prominence now, believe it or not.


http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20080107/..._usa_politics_...

and out comes the far-left RACISM of DeserTBob, just like the rest of
the left wing fringers....exactly like Rush Limbaugh stated- the
lefties are all for equality, until someone of color surpasses them-
then they attack them- even if they belong to their own party

If I was a Democrat strategist, I'd run Obama as president, and
Richardson as VP- at least they look more presidential and
professional than Hillary and the Bret-girl

what is more important is, how presidential all the Republican
candidates looked, compared to the Democrats- I would take any
Republican candidate at this point, over the Dems

obvious outcome- another Republican in the White House in 2009


As though you made any sense. Your willing to defend Rush "ManMeet"
Limbaugh, a homo, drug abuser and known coward. Your willing to
attack the dem candidates even though their morality is far, far
better than the repug candidates. How many marriages has Rudi had?
McCain?

Geez, run any repug you want and you will get beat. Some, like Rep.
Paul will get you beat like a brass gong, others, like McCain, will
result in an honorable defeat but since your last years in power were
typified by the worst administration in the nations history getting
beat is in your presidential future.
  #6  
Old January 7th 08, 03:32 PM posted to alt.collecting.8-track-tapes, alt.politics, alt.politics.democrats,alt.politics.republican, alt.fan.rush-limbaugh
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Default Obama rockets past Hillary in New Hampshire- replay of Iowa !

On Jan 7, 9:26*am, Kevin Cunningham wrote:
On Jan 7, 8:29 am, trippin-2-8-track wrote:





On Jan 7, 3:04 am, DeserTBoB wrote:


Looks like Hillary found the gear shift lever on her campaign's
transmission in Nashua tonight, bludgeoning Obama over his votes for
"Dick Cheney's energy bill" and other untoward votes he cast in his
short Senate tenure. *From the reports, this got the crowd going
pretty good. *Meanwhile, Obama's still stuck on the "turn the page"
message with no policy specifics at all in Manchester...which has
worked well for him up until now, but may run him aground soon, if he
cannot both defend his own voting record and bash Hillary's at the
same time. *Dems are also rumoring that Clinton has a batch of new
Obama negative ads to unleash on Manchester and Nashua TV stations
Monday.


Well, she's going to need all the help she can get, according to
Gallup's latest statewide numbers. *Obama has pulled ahead to 41% of
likely primary voters (no specificity as to whether Dems or
"unaffiliateds"), with Clinton down to 28% from 33% prior to her Iowa
thrashing. *Edwards is slipping again, down to 19% now, predictable in
a state where there are virtually no "blue collar" workers left, and
70% of the state's economy consists of *what scraps the small
businesses can throw together. *With only hours left until the
balloting, the question isn't whether Clinton can or cannot campaign
hard enough to beat Obama (she can't...not enough time, not enough
"Hillaries" to go around to all the events needed to make up 14% in a
couple of days) but, rather, how many votes will McCain siphon away
from Obama (or vice versa!) among the "unaffiliateds."


That would be a bigger mover in percentage of total votes than would
anything Hillary could do now, and McCain's obviously on a roll in the
state. *The formerly "unsinkable S.S. Romney" is now taking on water,
much to the horror of party regulars like the seeming closet gay Ken
Mehlman, who ran Bush's dirty tricks campaign in 2004 at the behest of
Karl Rove.


Mehlman reminds me of another gay blade of politics, this one of the
1950s...the disgustingly vile Ray Cohn, who was Joe McCarthy's (R-WI)
hatchet man/lawyer. *Cohn was a real piece of mentally scrambled work
who died of complications of hepatitis (which one, we don't know now)
contracted most likely from his weird habit of eating left-behind food
off of other peoples' plates at any dinner function he attended.


Meanwhile, the GOPher operatives have started to really get worried
that this thing about Bush destroying their party is the real deal.
Read for yourself, from no less credible a writer than Ron Fornier of
AP:


http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20080104/...n_deadline_gop


Dan Rather's right...it's still VERY early in the game, and "Tsunami
Tuesday" has changed the game from a state-by-state contest to a
semi-national "pre-election" event. *Remember, Iowa has only a 75%
correct record of picking the eventual nominee for either party, and
this is the first "wide open" election since 1952. *The "rules" are
out the window, and the GOP's standard bearer now in the White House
is in the worst shape in approval of ANY sitting U.S. President since
scientific polling started in the 1940s.


Those who remember their history will recall that Iowa and New
Hampshire both thought that it would be Estes Kefauver for the
Democrats in '52, but the big states picked Adlai Stevenson. *No
matter, Kefauver would've lost probably even worse to Ike, whose
election, in retrospect, was a "prize" awarded by the American people
for his job as supreme commander of the European theater in WWII. *As
it turned out, he was nothing more than a caretaker in office...which
is probably what people wanted at the time. *Corporate clowns used
Ike's laissez-faire presidency to at least partially restore their
control over the government they lost under FDR and HST. *It's that
"corporate control" that's fueling a great deal of Obama's rise to
prominence now, believe it or not.


http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20080107/..._usa_politics_...


and out comes the far-left RACISM of DeserTBob, just like the rest of
the left wing fringers....exactly like Rush Limbaugh stated- the
lefties are all for equality, until someone of color surpasses them-
then they attack them- even if they belong to their own party


If I was a Democrat strategist, I'd run Obama as president, and
Richardson as VP- at least they look more presidential and
professional than Hillary and the Bret-girl


what is more important is, how presidential all the Republican
candidates looked, compared to the Democrats- I would take any
Republican candidate at this point, over the Dems


obvious outcome- another Republican in the White House in 2009


As though you made any sense. *Your willing to defend Rush "ManMeet"
Limbaugh, a homo, drug abuser and known coward. *Your willing to
attack the dem candidates even though their morality is far, far
better than the repug candidates. *How many marriages has Rudi had?
McCain?

Geez, run any repug you want and you will get beat. *Some, like Rep.
Paul will get you beat like a brass gong, others, like McCain, will
result in an honorable defeat but since your last years in power were
typified by the worst administration in the nations history getting
beat is in your presidential future.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -


Kevin.....Democrats are more moral?

Listen up nigga...if we want any **** out of you....

we will squeeze your nappy head.

Both parties suck......

We need to take back our government.

love ya
hank
Question: how it feel to have pubic hair on your head?
Ever get mixed up?
  #7  
Old January 7th 08, 06:16 PM posted to alt.collecting.8-track-tapes, alt.politics, alt.politics.democrats,alt.politics.republican, alt.fan.rush-limbaugh
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Default Obama rockets past Hillary in New Hampshire- replay of Iowa !

On Jan 7, 9:26*am, Kevin Cunningham wrote:
On Jan 7, 8:29 am, trippin-2-8-track wrote:





On Jan 7, 3:04 am, DeserTBoB wrote:


Looks like Hillary found the gear shift lever on her campaign's
transmission in Nashua tonight, bludgeoning Obama over his votes for
"Dick Cheney's energy bill" and other untoward votes he cast in his
short Senate tenure. *From the reports, this got the crowd going
pretty good. *Meanwhile, Obama's still stuck on the "turn the page"
message with no policy specifics at all in Manchester...which has
worked well for him up until now, but may run him aground soon, if he
cannot both defend his own voting record and bash Hillary's at the
same time. *Dems are also rumoring that Clinton has a batch of new
Obama negative ads to unleash on Manchester and Nashua TV stations
Monday.


Well, she's going to need all the help she can get, according to
Gallup's latest statewide numbers. *Obama has pulled ahead to 41% of
likely primary voters (no specificity as to whether Dems or
"unaffiliateds"), with Clinton down to 28% from 33% prior to her Iowa
thrashing. *Edwards is slipping again, down to 19% now, predictable in
a state where there are virtually no "blue collar" workers left, and
70% of the state's economy consists of *what scraps the small
businesses can throw together. *With only hours left until the
balloting, the question isn't whether Clinton can or cannot campaign
hard enough to beat Obama (she can't...not enough time, not enough
"Hillaries" to go around to all the events needed to make up 14% in a
couple of days) but, rather, how many votes will McCain siphon away
from Obama (or vice versa!) among the "unaffiliateds."


That would be a bigger mover in percentage of total votes than would
anything Hillary could do now, and McCain's obviously on a roll in the
state. *The formerly "unsinkable S.S. Romney" is now taking on water,
much to the horror of party regulars like the seeming closet gay Ken
Mehlman, who ran Bush's dirty tricks campaign in 2004 at the behest of
Karl Rove.


Mehlman reminds me of another gay blade of politics, this one of the
1950s...the disgustingly vile Ray Cohn, who was Joe McCarthy's (R-WI)
hatchet man/lawyer. *Cohn was a real piece of mentally scrambled work
who died of complications of hepatitis (which one, we don't know now)
contracted most likely from his weird habit of eating left-behind food
off of other peoples' plates at any dinner function he attended.


Meanwhile, the GOPher operatives have started to really get worried
that this thing about Bush destroying their party is the real deal.
Read for yourself, from no less credible a writer than Ron Fornier of
AP:


http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20080104/...n_deadline_gop


Dan Rather's right...it's still VERY early in the game, and "Tsunami
Tuesday" has changed the game from a state-by-state contest to a
semi-national "pre-election" event. *Remember, Iowa has only a 75%
correct record of picking the eventual nominee for either party, and
this is the first "wide open" election since 1952. *The "rules" are
out the window, and the GOP's standard bearer now in the White House
is in the worst shape in approval of ANY sitting U.S. President since
scientific polling started in the 1940s.


Those who remember their history will recall that Iowa and New
Hampshire both thought that it would be Estes Kefauver for the
Democrats in '52, but the big states picked Adlai Stevenson. *No
matter, Kefauver would've lost probably even worse to Ike, whose
election, in retrospect, was a "prize" awarded by the American people
for his job as supreme commander of the European theater in WWII. *As
it turned out, he was nothing more than a caretaker in office...which
is probably what people wanted at the time. *Corporate clowns used
Ike's laissez-faire presidency to at least partially restore their
control over the government they lost under FDR and HST. *It's that
"corporate control" that's fueling a great deal of Obama's rise to
prominence now, believe it or not.


http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20080107/..._usa_politics_...


and out comes the far-left RACISM of DeserTBob, just like the rest of
the left wing fringers....exactly like Rush Limbaugh stated- the
lefties are all for equality, until someone of color surpasses them-
then they attack them- even if they belong to their own party


If I was a Democrat strategist, I'd run Obama as president, and
Richardson as VP- at least they look more presidential and
professional than Hillary and the Bret-girl


what is more important is, how presidential all the Republican
candidates looked, compared to the Democrats- I would take any
Republican candidate at this point, over the Dems


obvious outcome- another Republican in the White House in 2009


As though you made any sense. *Your willing to defend Rush "ManMeet"
Limbaugh, a homo, drug abuser and known coward. *Your willing to
attack the dem candidates even though their morality is far, far
better than the repug candidates. *How many marriages has Rudi had?
McCain?

Geez, run any repug you want and you will get beat. *Some, like Rep.
Paul will get you beat like a brass gong, others, like McCain, will
result in an honorable defeat but since your last years in power were
typified by the worst administration in the nations history getting
beat is in your presidential future.- Hide quoted text -



beat by who, fringer....Obama ? he's the one who's "winning" in your
party, so far...

good luck with that one...

  #8  
Old January 7th 08, 07:09 PM posted to alt.collecting.8-track-tapes, alt.politics, alt.politics.democrats,alt.politics.republican, alt.fan.rush-limbaugh
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Default Republican slam-dunk win in 2008 general election !

On Jan 7, 8:54*am, Mbruno wrote:
On 7 jan, 11:29, trippin-2-8-track wrote:





On Jan 7, 3:04*am, DeserTBoB wrote:


Looks like Hillary found the gear shift lever on her campaign's
transmission in Nashua tonight, bludgeoning Obama over his votes for
"Dick Cheney's energy bill" and other untoward votes he cast in his
short Senate tenure. *From the reports, this got the crowd going
pretty good. *Meanwhile, Obama's still stuck on the "turn the page"
message with no policy specifics at all in Manchester...which has
worked well for him up until now, but may run him aground soon, if he
cannot both defend his own voting record and bash Hillary's at the
same time. *Dems are also rumoring that Clinton has a batch of new
Obama negative ads to unleash on Manchester and Nashua TV stations
Monday.


Well, she's going to need all the help she can get, according to
Gallup's latest statewide numbers. *Obama has pulled ahead to 41% of
likely primary voters (no specificity as to whether Dems or
"unaffiliateds"), with Clinton down to 28% from 33% prior to her Iowa
thrashing. *Edwards is slipping again, down to 19% now, predictable in
a state where there are virtually no "blue collar" workers left, and
70% of the state's economy consists of *what scraps the small
businesses can throw together. *With only hours left until the
balloting, the question isn't whether Clinton can or cannot campaign
hard enough to beat Obama (she can't...not enough time, not enough
"Hillaries" to go around to all the events needed to make up 14% in a
couple of days) but, rather, how many votes will McCain siphon away
from Obama (or vice versa!) among the "unaffiliateds."


That would be a bigger mover in percentage of total votes than would
anything Hillary could do now, and McCain's obviously on a roll in the
state. *The formerly "unsinkable S.S. Romney" is now taking on water,
much to the horror of party regulars like the seeming closet gay Ken
Mehlman, who ran Bush's dirty tricks campaign in 2004 at the behest of
Karl Rove.


Mehlman reminds me of another gay blade of politics, this one of the
1950s...the disgustingly vile Ray Cohn, who was Joe McCarthy's (R-WI)
hatchet man/lawyer. *Cohn was a real piece of mentally scrambled work
who died of complications of hepatitis (which one, we don't know now)
contracted most likely from his weird habit of eating left-behind food
off of other peoples' plates at any dinner function he attended.


Meanwhile, the GOPher operatives have started to really get worried
that this thing about Bush destroying their party is the real deal.
Read for yourself, from no less credible a writer than Ron Fornier of
AP:


http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20080104/...n_deadline_gop


Dan Rather's right...it's still VERY early in the game, and "Tsunami
Tuesday" has changed the game from a state-by-state contest to a
semi-national "pre-election" event. *Remember, Iowa has only a 75%
correct record of picking the eventual nominee for either party, and
this is the first "wide open" election since 1952. *The "rules" are
out the window, and the GOP's standard bearer now in the White House
is in the worst shape in approval of ANY sitting U.S. President since
scientific polling started in the 1940s.


Those who remember their history will recall that Iowa and New
Hampshire both thought that it would be Estes Kefauver for the
Democrats in '52, but the big states picked Adlai Stevenson. *No
matter, Kefauver would've lost probably even worse to Ike, whose
election, in retrospect, was a "prize" awarded by the American people
for his job as supreme commander of the European theater in WWII. *As
it turned out, he was nothing more than a caretaker in office...which
is probably what people wanted at the time. *Corporate clowns used
Ike's laissez-faire presidency to at least partially restore their
control over the government they lost under FDR and HST. *It's that
"corporate control" that's fueling a great deal of Obama's rise to
prominence now, believe it or not.


http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20080107/..._usa_politics_...


and out comes the far-left RACISM of DeserTBob, just like the rest of
the left wing fringers....exactly like Rush Limbaugh stated- the
lefties are all for equality, until someone of color surpasses them-
then they attack them- even if they belong to their own party


If I was a Democrat strategist, I'd run Obama as president, and
Richardson as VP- at least they look more presidential and
professional than Hillary and the Bret-girl


what is more important is, how presidential all the Republican
candidates looked, compared to the Democrats- I would take any
Republican candidate at this point, over the Dems


obvious outcome- another Republican in the White House in 2009- Ocultar texto entre aspas -


The Zogby poll shows Obama has a 2-1 lead over Hillary among men (all
ages included) in NH, whereas her lead among women is considerably
narrower (something like 4 points only). With all the talk about how
difficult it would be for a black candidate (Obama) to win white
states, pundits failed to consider a much more important phenomenon,
namely that there are still many male as well as conservative female
voters in America who are not comfortable yet with the idea of a woman
as POTUS !

Racism is indeed still a major issue in the IS, but it fades in
comparison to sexism.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -




exactly- the Dems saddled themselves with "no win" candidates, that
would only have a chance in a 3-way election with a powerful 3rd party
choice.

after the Reps win in 2008, DESPITE all of Bush's negative press, the
Dems will finally wake up and realize, Clinton's 1992 and 1996 wins,
were only due to Perot stealing away conservative votes from Reps.
Had Perot not won, Bush Sr. and Dole would have beaten Clinton easily.

then finally, "perhaps", we'll get a real Dem to vote for in 2012- but
for now, it's a Republican slam-dunk
  #9  
Old January 8th 08, 02:12 AM posted to alt.collecting.8-track-tapes,alt.politics,alt.politics.democrats,alt.politics.republican,alt.fan.rush-limbaugh
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Default Charlie Nudo dead player in life as well, dittos his paranoid delusions on Usenet

On Mon, 7 Jan 2008 05:34:23 -0800 (PST), Charlie Nudo posing as
trippin-2-8-track (last of his 29 BANNED
Google Groups accounts ) wrote:

Like I said before, this is why you can't believe ANYTHING DeserTBob
says- he's obviously in his own world, and only reads what he wants to
read

Why did the press just report 2 hours ago, that Obama ROCKETS PAST
Hillary in New Hampshire ?? Will it turn out that DeserTBob is WRONG-
AGAIN ?? snip


Uh, yoo hoo, idiot...isn't that what I just said???

Further proof that Charlie Nudo of Drums, PA, aka "trippin-2-8 trak",
a confirmed eBay fraudster and Usenet troll, cannot read articles, but
rather focuses on perceived enemies and fires away with irrelevant
(and usually wrong) posts, as if he's playing a worn out pinball
machine.

Best advice: Killfile anything from Frontier.net, or at least
and . They're both one and the
same...Charlie Nudo.

For more about this mentally ill petty crook and Usenet troll, see:

http://nudowatch.blogspot.com

....or simply Google "Charlie Nudo" and be amazed.
  #10  
Old January 8th 08, 02:18 AM posted to alt.collecting.8-track-tapes,alt.politics,alt.politics.democrats,alt.politics.republican,alt.fan.rush-limbaugh
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Default Kill file slam-dunk: Charlie Nudo

On Mon, 7 Jan 2008 10:09:18 -0800 (PST), trippin-2-8-track
wrote:

On Jan 7, 8:54*am, Mbruno wrote:


exactly- the Dems saddled themselves with "no win" candidates snip


Kill file this paranoid delusional eBay thief and Usenet troll by
adding:




....to your kill filers.

For more about this mentally ill petty thief and Usenet troll, see:

http://nudowatch.blogspot.com

....or simply Google "Charlie Nudo" and be amazed!
 




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