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Old September 23rd 07, 04:41 PM posted to rec.collecting.stamps.discuss
Victor Manta
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Default Turkey. Was: Irish independence?

"Alan" wrote in message
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Israel has a football/soccer team in the European Cup this year.

Actually each time, and also in basketball. The reason is obvious, and
it has nothing to do with the geographical location.

Sorry, why obvious ?


Alan, you can eventually remember this event:
"The Munich massacre occurred during the 1972 Summer Olympics in Munich,
West Germany, when members of the Israeli Olympic team were taken hostage
by the Palestinian terrorist group Black September, a group with ties to
Yasser Arafat's Fatah organization. By the end of the ordeal, the group
had murdered eleven Israeli athletes and one German police officer."
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Munich_massacre

Now, if something like that could happen in Munich, it is not difficult
to imagine what could happen if an Israeli sport team had to play in some
of its neighboring countries. In order to prevent such dangers, the sport
teams from Israel compete with the European ones, as well in Europe as in
Israel.

Victor


By that example perhaps the Israelis should associate somewhere else
rather than Europe, perhaps Asia !.
Alan


Sorry, but I cannot follow your logic, Alan. That weren't Germans that
killed the Israeli sportspeople (a German policeman even died too) but some
hostile Arabs, so that I don't see why Europe isn't the right place for
Israelis to play football, basketball, etc., what they actually do!

The modern Hebrew (one of Israel's official languages, and the widely spoken
one) is heavily influenced by the European languages. The majority of the
Israel population is actualy of European origin, and the mostly spoken
non-oficial languages are Russian and Romanian (that are, of course,
European languages).
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Languages_of_Israel

For all these reasons I don't really see why Israel should associate with
Asia or any other continent, excepting for Europe.

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Old September 27th 07, 06:59 PM posted to rec.collecting.stamps.discuss
Victor Manta
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Default Turkey. Was: Irish independence?

"Alan" wrote in message
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Victor,
I think your point was that they would be safer playing in Europe than the
Middle East, but after what happened in Germany that theory doesn't work.
If you follow your logic and they play somewhere safer, then Europe (After
Munich, London Madrid etc)is not safe either.
In fact rather than Asia perhaps they should play in the US, in the NBA,
MSL and even MLB (World Series !).
Alan


I didn't know that Israeli sportsmen were killed in London or Madrid.

BTW, London and Madrid terrorist attacks have more to do with what happened
on 9/11, you know where.

I wonder which will be your next proposal: Africa, Australia or Antarctica?
I can imagine a football match against the penguins :-)

Just to note that the best club level football (soccer) is played here, in
Europe.

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Old September 27th 07, 09:00 PM posted to rec.collecting.stamps.discuss
Victor Manta
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Default Turkey. Was: Irish independence?

"Alan" wrote in message
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Victor Manta wrote:
"Alan" wrote in message
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Victor,
I think your point was that they would be safer playing in Europe than
the Middle East, but after what happened in Germany that theory doesn't
work. If you follow your logic and they play somewhere safer, then
Europe (After Munich, London Madrid etc)is not safe either.
In fact rather than Asia perhaps they should play in the US, in the NBA,
MSL and even MLB (World Series !).
Alan


I didn't know that Israeli sportsmen were killed in London or Madrid.

BTW, London and Madrid terrorist attacks have more to do with what
happened on 9/11, you know where.

I wonder which will be your next proposal: Africa, Australia or
Antarctica? I can imagine a football match against the penguins :-)


The safety (or lack of) is the issue, not the nationalities of those
killed, unless you are suggesting that if they're not Israeli then it
doesn't matter.


I'm not suggesting it at all (keywords: red herring = irrelevant
thesis=ignoring the issue). Just to remind that the subject was why Israeli
(!) sport teams compete in Europe.

To answer my own question, probably the highest safety is in Antarctica, for
any teams. ;-)

Back to stamps, and to the relationship between Israel and European
countries, I have found these stamp issues interesting:

- On 22 August 1993, the Israel PA issued a S/S dedicated to the
Israel-Romanian Stamps Exhibition TELAFILA '93.

- On 19 November 1997, the Israel PA issued a S/S in the commemoration of
the International Pushkin Year (Pushkin = the most renown Russian poet).

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