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Irish independence?
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well, I thought Ireland was part of Europe. -- Regards, Paul Herber, Sandrila Ltd. http://www.sandrila.co.uk/ |
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Irish independence?
"Paul Herber" wrote in message ell.net... http://stamps.ebay.co.uk/ well, I thought Ireland was part of Europe. You are right, but Turkey is not. Tony -- Regards, Paul Herber, Sandrila Ltd. http://www.sandrila.co.uk/ ----== Posted via Newsfeeds.Com - Unlimited-Unrestricted-Secure Usenet News==---- http://www.newsfeeds.com The #1 Newsgroup Service in the World! 120,000+ Newsgroups ----= East and West-Coast Server Farms - Total Privacy via Encryption =---- |
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Turkey. Was: Irish independence?
"A.E. Gelat" wrote in message
... "Paul Herber" wrote in message ell.net... http://stamps.ebay.co.uk/ well, I thought Ireland was part of Europe. You are right, but Turkey is not. Tony Isn't it? "Turkey (Turkish: Türkiye), known officially as the Republic of Turkey (Türkiye Cumhuriyeti (help·info)), is a Eurasian country that stretches across the Anatolian peninsula in southwest Asia and the Balkan region of southeastern Europe." http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Turkey Eurasia is an immense landmass covering about 53,990,000 km² (or about 10.6%) of the Earth's surface. Often reckoned as a single continent, Eurasia comprises the traditional continents of Europe and Asia, concepts which date back to classical antiquity and the borders for which are somewhat arbitrary. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eurasia -- Victor Manta ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Philatelic Webmasters Organization: http://pwmo.org/ Art on Stamps: http://artonstamps.org/ Romania by Stamps: http://marci-postale.com/ Communism on Stamps: http://reds-on.postalstamps.biz/ Spanish North Africa: http://www.sna-on.postalstamps.biz/ ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- |
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Turkey. Was: Irish independence?
"Victor Manta" wrote in message ... "Turkey (Turkish: Türkiye), known officially as the Republic of Turkey (Türkiye Cumhuriyeti (help·info)), is a Eurasian country that stretches across the Anatolian peninsula in southwest Asia and the Balkan region of southeastern Europe." I always had trouble at school grasping timelines, and made an effort to bring chunks of time into perspective. Turkey, I always used a date of 700AD as a time when "The Pesian Empire" split and Turkey or the Byzantine empire came into prominence. from the Penguin book of medieval history shows AD650 http://cjoint.com/data/jvceCDQShL.htm It was only c200 years later, the Vikings rowed, pulled,sailed their longships across Europe, down the Dnieper and traded with Byzantium. (I welcome any corrections to my amateur history) -- Posted via a free Usenet account from http://www.teranews.com |
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Turkey. Was: Irish independence?
"Victor Manta" wrote in message ... "A.E. Gelat" wrote in message ... "Paul Herber" wrote in message ell.net... http://stamps.ebay.co.uk/ well, I thought Ireland was part of Europe. You are right, but Turkey is not. Tony Isn't it? No, it isn't. Without looking up the exact areas, I estimate that part of Turkey in Europe at about 3%. That does not make it European. Spain has five small exclaves in Africa, but that does not make it African. Tony "Turkey (Turkish: Türkiye), known officially as the Republic of Turkey (Türkiye Cumhuriyeti (help·info)), is a Eurasian country that stretches across the Anatolian peninsula in southwest Asia and the Balkan region of southeastern Europe." http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Turkey Eurasia is an immense landmass covering about 53,990,000 km² (or about 10.6%) of the Earth's surface. Often reckoned as a single continent, Eurasia comprises the traditional continents of Europe and Asia, concepts which date back to classical antiquity and the borders for which are somewhat arbitrary. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eurasia -- Victor Manta ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Philatelic Webmasters Organization: http://pwmo.org/ Art on Stamps: http://artonstamps.org/ Romania by Stamps: http://marci-postale.com/ Communism on Stamps: http://reds-on.postalstamps.biz/ Spanish North Africa: http://www.sna-on.postalstamps.biz/ ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ----== Posted via Newsfeeds.Com - Unlimited-Unrestricted-Secure Usenet News==---- http://www.newsfeeds.com The #1 Newsgroup Service in the World! 120,000+ Newsgroups ----= East and West-Coast Server Farms - Total Privacy via Encryption =---- |
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Turkey. Was: Irish independence?
"A.E. Gelat" wrote in message
... "Victor Manta" wrote in message ... "A.E. Gelat" wrote in message ... "Paul Herber" wrote in message ell.net... http://stamps.ebay.co.uk/ well, I thought Ireland was part of Europe. You are right, but Turkey is not. Tony Isn't it? No, it isn't. Without looking up the exact areas, I estimate that part of Turkey in Europe at about 3%. That does not make it European. Spain has five small exclaves in Africa, but that does not make it African. Tony Your estimation seems to be very good, congratulations! See: "The Turks of even the Ottoman period had always their sights towards Europe and their Western border extended up to Vienna in the sixteenth century during the reign of Suleyman the Magnificent. Modern day Turkey has only a 3 per cent of its territory in Europe." http://www.pakistanlink.com/hussaini/11152002.html But is it relevant? Or, in other words, which proportion of a country should be part of Europe in order to be considered European too? 5%, 10%, 100% or even more? ;-) It is obvious, at least to me, that the Spanish enclaves in Africa aren't European just because they are Spanish. For example GB, Spain, Portugal, France, The Netherlands, possesed colonies in America but this didn't make them part of Europe either. But a part of Turkey is on the European continent, and this a geographical fact. Of course, this is not the main argument for the admission of Turkey (or any other European countries, like the big Russia or Ukraina) in the EU, but it helps a bit. And last but not not least, a country can be in the very middle of Europe and hasn't to be EU member, this by the wish of the majority of its population. I speak of course about the country where I live, Switzerland. -- Victor Manta ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Philatelic Webmasters Organization: http://pwmo.org/ Art on Stamps: http://artonstamps.org/ Romania by Stamps: http://marci-postale.com/ Communism on Stamps: http://reds-on.postalstamps.biz/ Spanish North Africa: http://www.sna-on.postalstamps.biz/ ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- |
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