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Black or clear mounts, Hawid or Showgard?
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The subject says it all - I've got a collection needs re-mounting. Opinions etc please on whether the open top Hawid mounts or split back Showgard / Scott are better as well as the relative merits of black and clear (most dealers seem to stock only the black these days). Cheers - John |
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Black or clear mounts, Hawid or Showgard?
John Mycroft wrote:
The subject says it all - I've got a collection needs re-mounting. Opinions etc please on whether the open top Hawid mounts or split back Showgard / Scott are better as well as the relative merits of black and clear (most dealers seem to stock only the black these days). Cheers - John My preference is for clear Showgard. In my experience stamps can work their way out of the open-top mounts. If you use black mounts, the page looks gloomy if you use oversize ones - but you have to be careful with perfs if you use the right size. With clear, I routinely use 1mm oversize - or more, which saves stocking every single size. But all these mounts are too expensive for common used stamps - unless you're happy for the mount to be worth more than the stamp. Colin McKenzie -- No-one has ever proved that cycle helmets make cycling any safer at the population level, and anyway cycling is about as safe per mile as walking. Make an informed choice - visit www.cyclehelmets.org. |
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Black or clear mounts, Hawid or Showgard?
Thanks, Colin
I agree with you about the black mounts looking gloomy - I think most hingeless albums on the market use clear mounts. The collection in question is all mint, mostly hinged but with a fair number of MNH so I want all the stamps to be mounted the same. Most of the stamps are worth quite a bit more than the mounts, too - never ceases to amaze me the number of CTO jam labels I see mounted in many dollars worth of mounts. Cheers - John |
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Black or clear mounts, Hawid or Showgard?
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Sir F. A. Rien wrote: John Mycroft found these unused words: Hi, All The subject says it all - I've got a collection needs re-mounting. Opinions etc please on whether the open top Hawid mounts or split back Showgard / Scott are better as well as the relative merits of black and clear (most dealers seem to stock only the black these days). Cheers - John Open top leaves three means for the stamp to slide out and get lost -=or=- you jam it down to get some grip from the one pressure point. For me, Black, as it shows off the stamps, clear shows off your album paper. So Showgard Black. See philately.ttrr.org, the GB section and some sample pages. Hi John I've no opinion on Hawid or Showguard as I use Lighthouse and find them satisfactory. I do no find stamps falling out of them. Could Hawid and Lighthouse be the same product? For color, if you are making your own album then I'd agree with our Lord of Nothing (rien in French is a translation of nothing) and say black is the way to go, as far as you are not cramming pages with stamps, then it gets somber. You will also need to write whatever info outside the mount area. I was going to say above or below, but left or right is also allowable! So, outside it is. However, if you are using a pre-printed album, transparent is the ONLY way to go. Ever handled a pre-printed album with page after page of black mounts? I often have to my despair. The pages are jammed with black and you are never again be able to tell what's what. Don't forget: only a small area of the mount need be stuck to the page and more is NOT better! There has been a useful discussion on affixing mounts a few months ago, Look it up in Google or any other RCSD archive. Good luck and don't forget to tell us about your choices and the results. Best regards Richard -- Pour repondre en perso inserer r devant mon nom et retrancher /invalid To answer directly, insert r in front of my name and drop /invalid |
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Black or clear mounts, Hawid or Showgard?
On Jul 17, 5:04 pm, John Mycroft wrote:
Hi, All The subject says it all - I've got a collection needs re-mounting. Opinions etc please on whether the open top Hawid mounts or split back Showgard / Scott are better as well as the relative merits of black and clear (most dealers seem to stock only the black these days). Cheers - John Hi John, I prefer Showgard over Scott or Prinz. I feel that the Showgard mounts are a little heavier than the others and I prefer that feel. As for black or clear background, that is a personal preference. I use black mounts and, like Colin, I try to use a mount a little 'taller' than the item being placed into the mount. In addition I also make the 'width' at least 3mm wider than the stamp measured from perf tip to perf tip ( I was once told that the welds are about 1.5mm each and the 3 mm makes for an even margin around the stamp ). The open top Hawid mount works fine for small material and I have used them for that purpose. Large material tends to 'fall out' of the mount. Regarding Colin's comment about expense using mounts for common used stamps. I use mounts for everything since it makes a page look uniform. I will say though that my collections are mostly mint , except for classic issues, so it is not an issue. Jerry Bodoff |
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Black or clear mounts, Hawid or Showgard?
There was an article a while back in one of the philatelic
publications (possibly the AP) that talked how mounts can shrink over time, especially when exposed to heat (I believe as low as 80 degrees). I use the clear Showguard mounts but ensure that there is 1 to 2 mm extra height just to be on the safe side. Ian Gibson-Smith |
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Black or clear mounts, Hawid or Showgard?
John--I buy whatever company's product a dealer may have available when I need to restock. I have standardized on clear
mounts as I occasionally weaken and create an exhibit for a club show. Because judges want color only to emphasize important items, most stamps in my exhibits are in clear mounts. Using the same "color" for album mounts saves keeping separate stocks of mounts. -- Stan Fairchild P.O. Box 26354 Fairview Park, OH 44126 U.S.A. áâäàåçéêëèíîïìñóöúû ? "John Mycroft" wrote in message ... Hi, All The subject says it all - I've got a collection needs re-mounting. Opinions etc please on whether the open top Hawid mounts or split back Showgard / Scott are better as well as the relative merits of black and clear (most dealers seem to stock only the black these days). Cheers - John |
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Black or clear mounts, Hawid or Showgard?
There may be a few judges who are prejudiced against black
mounts, but most aren't. I know because all of my exhibits which contain stamps use black Hawids, and I've specifically asked the judges if that bothered them. Nobody has ever said yes. I'm also a judge, and the only thing that would bother me about black mounts would be if the mounts weren't trimmed to within 1 or 2 mm of the stamps. Then the black mounts detract from the stamps. Note that with Showgard style mounts, it is not always possible to get them to fit that closely. One thing you can do in that situation is to take a mount twice as big as you need and cut it in half horizontally - thus making two "Hawids" from one Showgard. If I were starting over today I would probably go with clear Hawids. However, years ago I bought out a dealer's stock of black Hawids,and I've stuck with them ever since. They do make the perfs stand out nicely. Also, in the last couple of years or so, I've started to use removeable double-sided Scotch tape to affix the mounts to a page. Then if I have to re-do a page, I just pop the mount off the old page and press it onto the new page. I only use a small piece of tape per mount, and so far I have not observed any ill effects. Jay Carrigan change domain to mchsi www.jaypex.com In article , says... John--I buy whatever company's product a dealer may have available when I need t o restock. I have standardized on clear mounts as I occasionally weaken and create an exhibit for a club show. Because judges want color only to emphasize important items, most stamps in my exhibits are in clear mounts. Using the same "color" for album mounts saves keeping separate stocks of mounts. -- Stan Fairchild P.O. Box 26354 Fairview Park, OH 44126 U.S.A. áâäàåçéêëèíîïìñóöúû ? "John Mycroft" wrote in message news:K8ani.59$wV4.0@bignew s2.bellsouth.net... Hi, All The subject says it all - I've got a collection needs re-mounting. Opinions e tc please on whether the open top Hawid mounts or split back Showgard / Scott are better as well as the relative merit s of black and clear (most dealers seem to stock only the black these days). Cheers - John |
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Black or clear mounts, Hawid or Showgard?
Jay--thanks for your input. Like you, I have acquired dealers close out stock of mounts. As they were clear mounts, I
probably won't switch to black, but I will revise my annual "How to Exhibit at Cuy-Lor" presentation. Also like you, I have stopped automatically licking the back of the mount when putting an item in an exhibit. I've been using stamp hinges, but the double-sided tape seems like a better idea. I do that to be able to reuse the mount and thus reduce the cost. It's much more fun to spend money on stamps than on mounts. Stan "Jay T. Carrigan" wrote in message news:75Vni.33214$Fc.4077@attbi_s21... There may be a few judges who are prejudiced against black mounts, but most aren't. I know because all of my exhibits which contain stamps use black Hawids, and I've specifically asked the judges if that bothered them. Nobody has ever said yes. I'm also a judge, and the only thing that would bother me about black mounts would be if the mounts weren't trimmed to within 1 or 2 mm of the stamps. Then the black mounts detract from the stamps. Note that with Showgard style mounts, it is not always possible to get them to fit that closely. One thing you can do in that situation is to take a mount twice as big as you need and cut it in half horizontally - thus making two "Hawids" from one Showgard. If I were starting over today I would probably go with clear Hawids. However, years ago I bought out a dealer's stock of black Hawids,and I've stuck with them ever since. They do make the perfs stand out nicely. Also, in the last couple of years or so, I've started to use removeable double-sided Scotch tape to affix the mounts to a page. Then if I have to re-do a page, I just pop the mount off the old page and press it onto the new page. I only use a small piece of tape per mount, and so far I have not observed any ill effects. Jay Carrigan change domain to mchsi www.jaypex.com In article , says... John--I buy whatever company's product a dealer may have available when I need t o restock. I have standardized on clear mounts as I occasionally weaken and create an exhibit for a club show. Because judges want color only to emphasize important items, most stamps in my exhibits are in clear mounts. Using the same "color" for album mounts saves keeping separate stocks of mounts. -- Stan Fairchild P.O. Box 26354 Fairview Park, OH 44126 U.S.A. áâäàåçéêëèíîïìñóöúû ? "John Mycroft" wrote in message news:K8ani.59$wV4.0@bignew s2.bellsouth.net... Hi, All The subject says it all - I've got a collection needs re-mounting. Opinions e tc please on whether the open top Hawid mounts or split back Showgard / Scott are better as well as the relative merit s of black and clear (most dealers seem to stock only the black these days). Cheers - John |
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Black or clear mounts, Hawid or Showgard?
Thanks all - lots of helpful opinions: some to value, some to ignore :}
In the interests of convenience (I have only one stamp shop within sensible "popping out" distance), I have decided to go with black Showgards. I think the pre-cut sizes are too wide with too much of a margin - they swamp the early US airmails and so I am cutting my own from strips which probably works out cheaper per mount if a bit more work. I use a sliding blade cutter from our local hobby store rather than a guillotine, largely because there was one already at home. I'm being careful about shrinkage of the mounts - there are many stamps in this collection that have suffered from the original Crystal Mounts shrinking: I hope I will be able to rescue them all. It's a pity they use such industrial strength glue on the mounts, though - once they're in, they are there for the duration. This particular collection is on pre-printed Scott album pages which can look crowded when they lay out 6 stamps across the page - cutting your own mounts does give you a bit of white space between. It also means I don't have much room for shades, varieties etc but, where I have a large number of those, I just add an extra page which I print or write up myself. My other collection is on home made pages so I can spread out all over the place. I cringe at the thought of double sided tape but realise that that is just for exhibiting which I don't do largely because I don't want to have to follow "the rules" in my spare time. Cheers - John |
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