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Old September 23rd 06, 06:09 PM posted to rec.collecting.books,alt.politics,alt.politics.bush,alt.politics.democrats.d
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Default Great book that shows Saddam Hussein as the mass-murderer he really is

Saddam's Secrets by Georges Sada. This book mentions things like
Saddam's dreaded Anfal Campaign in the 1980's where the king bum
murdered hundreds of thousands of Iraqi Kurds. Plus, stuff like how
Saddam (after 1991) was getting very wealthy and powerful again off oil
he secretly through Iran! it also talks about how many Iraqis are
making more cash now than when Saddam was in power.

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Old September 23rd 06, 06:17 PM posted to rec.collecting.books,alt.politics,alt.politics.bush,alt.politics.democrats.d
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Default Great book that shows Rumsfeld as the mass-murderer he really is

Saddam's Secrets by Georges Sada. This book mentions things like
Saddam's dreaded Anfal Campaign in the 1980's where the king bum
murdered hundreds of thousands of Iraqi Kurds. Plus, stuff like how
Saddam (after 1991) was getting very wealthy and powerful again off oil
he secretly through Iran! it also talks about how many Iraqis are
making more cash now than when Saddam was in power.



The Saddam in Rumsfeld's Closet
by Jeremy Scahill


"Man and the turtle are very much alike. Neither makes any progress
without sticking his neck out."
-Donald Rumsfeld

Five years before Saddam Hussein's now infamous 1988 gassing of the
Kurds, a key meeting took place in Baghdad that would play a
significant role in forging close ties between Saddam Hussein and
Washington. It happened at a time when Saddam was first alleged to have
used chemical weapons. The meeting in late December 1983 paved the way
for an official restoration of relations between Iraq and the US, which
had been severed since the 1967 Arab-Israeli war.

With the Iran-Iraq war escalating, President Ronald Reagan dispatched
his Middle East envoy, a former secretary of defense, to Baghdad with a
hand-written letter to Iraqi President Saddam Hussein and a message
that Washington was willing at any moment to resume diplomatic
relations.

That envoy was Donald Rumsfeld.

Rumsfeld's December 19-20, 1983 visit to Baghdad made him the
highest-ranking US official to visit Iraq in 6 years. He met Saddam and
the two discussed "topics of mutual interest," according to the
Iraqi Foreign Ministry. "[Saddam] made it clear that Iraq was not
interested in making mischief in the world," Rumsfeld later told The
New York Times. "It struck us as useful to have a relationship, given
that we were interested in solving the Mideast problems."

Just 12 days after the meeting, on January 1, 1984, The Washington Post
reported that the United States "in a shift in policy, has informed
friendly Persian Gulf nations that the defeat of Iraq in the 3-year-old
war with Iran would be 'contrary to U.S. interests' and has made
several moves to prevent that result."

In March of 1984, with the Iran-Iraq war growing more brutal by the
day, Rumsfeld was back in Baghdad for meetings with then-Iraqi Foreign
Minister Tariq Aziz. On the day of his visit, March 24th, UPI reported
from the United Nations: "Mustard gas laced with a nerve agent has
been used on Iranian soldiers in the 43-month Persian Gulf War between
Iran and Iraq, a team of U.N. experts has concluded... Meanwhile, in
the Iraqi capital of Baghdad, U.S. presidential envoy Donald Rumsfeld
held talks with Foreign Minister Tarek Aziz (sic) on the Gulf war
before leaving for an unspecified destination."

The day before, the Iranian news agency alleged that Iraq launched
another chemical weapons assault on the southern battlefront, injuring
600 Iranian soldiers. "Chemical weapons in the form of aerial bombs
have been used in the areas inspected in Iran by the specialists,"
the U.N. report said. "The types of chemical agents used were
bis-(2-chlorethyl)-sulfide, also known as mustard gas, and ethyl N,
N-dimethylphosphoroamidocyanidate, a nerve agent known as Tabun."

Prior to the release of the UN report, the US State Department on March
5th had issued a statement saying "available evidence indicates that
Iraq has used lethal chemical weapons."

Commenting on the UN report, US Ambassador Jeane J. Kirkpatrick was
quoted by The New York Times as saying, "We think that the use of
chemical weapons is a very serious matter. We've made that clear in
general and particular."

Compared with the rhetoric emanating from the current administration,
based on speculations about what Saddam might have, Kirkpatrick's
reaction was hardly a call to action.

Most glaring is that Donald Rumsfeld was in Iraq as the 1984 UN report
was issued and said nothing about the allegations of chemical weapons
use, despite State Department "evidence." On the contrary, The New
York Times reported from Baghdad on March 29, 1984, "American
diplomats pronounce themselves satisfied with relations between Iraq
and the United States and suggest that normal diplomatic ties have been
restored in all but name."

A month and a half later, in May 1984, Donald Rumsfeld resigned. In
November of that year, full diplomatic relations between Iraq and the
US were fully restored. Two years later, in an article about
Rumsfeld's aspirations to run for the 1988 Republican Presidential
nomination, the Chicago Tribune Magazine listed among Rumsfeld's
achievements helping to "reopen U.S. relations with Iraq." The
Tribune failed to mention that this help came at a time when, according
to the US State Department, Iraq was actively using chemical weapons.

Throughout the period that Rumsfeld was Reagan's Middle East envoy,
Iraq was frantically purchasing hardware from American firms, empowered
by the White House to sell. The buying frenzy began immediately after
Iraq was removed from the list of alleged sponsors of terrorism in
1982. According to a February 13, 1991 Los Angeles Times article:

"First on Hussein's shopping list was helicopters -- he bought 60
Hughes helicopters and trainers with little notice. However, a second
order of 10 twin-engine Bell "Huey" helicopters, like those used to
carry combat troops in Vietnam, prompted congressional opposition in
August, 1983... Nonetheless, the sale was approved."

In 1984, according to The LA Times, the State Department-in the name
of "increased American penetration of the extremely competitive
civilian aircraft market"-pushed through the sale of 45 Bell 214ST
helicopters to Iraq. The helicopters, worth some $200 million, were
originally designed for military purposes. The New York Times later
reported that Saddam "transferred many, if not all [of these
helicopters] to his military."

In 1988, Saddam's forces attacked Kurdish civilians with poisonous
gas from Iraqi helicopters and planes. U.S. intelligence sources told
The LA Times in 1991, they "believe that the American-built
helicopters were among those dropping the deadly bombs."

In response to the gassing, sweeping sanctions were unanimously passed
by the US Senate that would have denied Iraq access to most US
technology. The measure was killed by the White House.

Senior officials later told reporters they did not press for punishment
of Iraq at the time because they wanted to shore up Iraq's ability to
pursue the war with Iran. Extensive research uncovered no public
statements by Donald Rumsfeld publicly expressing even remote concern
about Iraq's use or possession of chemical weapons until the week
Iraq invaded Kuwait in August 1990, when he appeared on an ABC news
special.

Eight years later, Donald Rumsfeld signed on to an "open letter" to
President Clinton, calling on him to eliminate "the threat posed by
Saddam." It urged Clinton to "provide the leadership necessary to
save ourselves and the world from the scourge of Saddam and the weapons
of mass destruction that he refuses to relinquish."

In 1984, Donald Rumsfeld was in a position to draw the world's
attention to Saddam's chemical threat. He was in Baghdad as the UN
concluded that chemical weapons had been used against Iran. He was
armed with a fresh communication from the State Department that it had
"available evidence" Iraq was using chemical weapons. But Rumsfeld
said nothing.

Washington now speaks of Saddam's threat and the consequences of a
failure to act. Despite the fact that the administration has failed to
provide even a shred of concrete proof that Iraq has links to Al Qaeda
or has resumed production of chemical or biological agents, Rumsfeld
insists that "the absence of evidence is not evidence of absence."

But there is evidence of the absence of Donald Rumsfeld's voice at
the very moment when Iraq's alleged threat to international security
first emerged. And in this case, the evidence of absence is indeed
evidence.

http://www.commondreams.org/views02/0802-01.htm

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Old September 24th 06, 10:23 PM posted to rec.collecting.books,alt.politics,alt.politics.bush,alt.politics.democrats.d
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Default Great book that shows Rumsfeld as the mass-murderer he really is


Möbius Pretzel wrote:
Saddam's Secrets by Georges Sada. This book mentions things like
Saddam's dreaded Anfal Campaign in the 1980's where the king bum
murdered hundreds of thousands of Iraqi Kurds. Plus, stuff like how
Saddam (after 1991) was getting very wealthy and powerful again off oil
he secretly through Iran! it also talks about how many Iraqis are
making more cash now than when Saddam was in power.



The Saddam in Rumsfeld's Closet
by Jeremy Scahill


"Man and the turtle are very much alike. Neither makes any progress
without sticking his neck out."
-Donald Rumsfeld

Five years before Saddam Hussein's now infamous 1988 gassing of the
Kurds, a key meeting took place in Baghdad that would play a
significant role in forging close ties between Saddam Hussein and
Washington. It happened at a time when Saddam was first alleged to have
used chemical weapons. The meeting in late December 1983 paved the way
for an official restoration of relations between Iraq and the US, which
had been severed since the 1967 Arab-Israeli war.

With the Iran-Iraq war escalating, President Ronald Reagan dispatched
his Middle East envoy, a former secretary of defense, to Baghdad with a
hand-written letter to Iraqi President Saddam Hussein and a message
that Washington was willing at any moment to resume diplomatic
relations.

That envoy was Donald Rumsfeld.

Rumsfeld's December 19-20, 1983 visit to Baghdad made him the
highest-ranking US official to visit Iraq in 6 years. He met Saddam and
the two discussed "topics of mutual interest," according to the
Iraqi Foreign Ministry. "[Saddam] made it clear that Iraq was not
interested in making mischief in the world," Rumsfeld later told The
New York Times. "It struck us as useful to have a relationship, given
that we were interested in solving the Mideast problems."

Just 12 days after the meeting, on January 1, 1984, The Washington Post
reported that the United States "in a shift in policy, has informed
friendly Persian Gulf nations that the defeat of Iraq in the 3-year-old
war with Iran would be 'contrary to U.S. interests' and has made
several moves to prevent that result."

In March of 1984, with the Iran-Iraq war growing more brutal by the
day, Rumsfeld was back in Baghdad for meetings with then-Iraqi Foreign
Minister Tariq Aziz. On the day of his visit, March 24th, UPI reported
from the United Nations: "Mustard gas laced with a nerve agent has
been used on Iranian soldiers in the 43-month Persian Gulf War between
Iran and Iraq, a team of U.N. experts has concluded... Meanwhile, in
the Iraqi capital of Baghdad, U.S. presidential envoy Donald Rumsfeld
held talks with Foreign Minister Tarek Aziz (sic) on the Gulf war
before leaving for an unspecified destination."

The day before, the Iranian news agency alleged that Iraq launched
another chemical weapons assault on the southern battlefront, injuring
600 Iranian soldiers. "Chemical weapons in the form of aerial bombs
have been used in the areas inspected in Iran by the specialists,"
the U.N. report said. "The types of chemical agents used were
bis-(2-chlorethyl)-sulfide, also known as mustard gas, and ethyl N,
N-dimethylphosphoroamidocyanidate, a nerve agent known as Tabun."

Prior to the release of the UN report, the US State Department on March
5th had issued a statement saying "available evidence indicates that
Iraq has used lethal chemical weapons."

Commenting on the UN report, US Ambassador Jeane J. Kirkpatrick was
quoted by The New York Times as saying, "We think that the use of
chemical weapons is a very serious matter. We've made that clear in
general and particular."

Compared with the rhetoric emanating from the current administration,
based on speculations about what Saddam might have, Kirkpatrick's
reaction was hardly a call to action.

Most glaring is that Donald Rumsfeld was in Iraq as the 1984 UN report
was issued and said nothing about the allegations of chemical weapons
use, despite State Department "evidence." On the contrary, The New
York Times reported from Baghdad on March 29, 1984, "American
diplomats pronounce themselves satisfied with relations between Iraq
and the United States and suggest that normal diplomatic ties have been
restored in all but name."

A month and a half later, in May 1984, Donald Rumsfeld resigned. In
November of that year, full diplomatic relations between Iraq and the
US were fully restored. Two years later, in an article about
Rumsfeld's aspirations to run for the 1988 Republican Presidential
nomination, the Chicago Tribune Magazine listed among Rumsfeld's
achievements helping to "reopen U.S. relations with Iraq." The
Tribune failed to mention that this help came at a time when, according
to the US State Department, Iraq was actively using chemical weapons.

Throughout the period that Rumsfeld was Reagan's Middle East envoy,
Iraq was frantically purchasing hardware from American firms, empowered
by the White House to sell. The buying frenzy began immediately after
Iraq was removed from the list of alleged sponsors of terrorism in
1982. According to a February 13, 1991 Los Angeles Times article:

"First on Hussein's shopping list was helicopters -- he bought 60
Hughes helicopters and trainers with little notice. However, a second
order of 10 twin-engine Bell "Huey" helicopters, like those used to
carry combat troops in Vietnam, prompted congressional opposition in
August, 1983... Nonetheless, the sale was approved."

In 1984, according to The LA Times, the State Department-in the name
of "increased American penetration of the extremely competitive
civilian aircraft market"-pushed through the sale of 45 Bell 214ST
helicopters to Iraq. The helicopters, worth some $200 million, were
originally designed for military purposes. The New York Times later
reported that Saddam "transferred many, if not all [of these
helicopters] to his military."

In 1988, Saddam's forces attacked Kurdish civilians with poisonous
gas from Iraqi helicopters and planes. U.S. intelligence sources told
The LA Times in 1991, they "believe that the American-built
helicopters were among those dropping the deadly bombs."

In response to the gassing, sweeping sanctions were unanimously passed
by the US Senate that would have denied Iraq access to most US
technology. The measure was killed by the White House.

Senior officials later told reporters they did not press for punishment
of Iraq at the time because they wanted to shore up Iraq's ability to
pursue the war with Iran. Extensive research uncovered no public
statements by Donald Rumsfeld publicly expressing even remote concern
about Iraq's use or possession of chemical weapons until the week
Iraq invaded Kuwait in August 1990, when he appeared on an ABC news
special.

Eight years later, Donald Rumsfeld signed on to an "open letter" to
President Clinton, calling on him to eliminate "the threat posed by
Saddam." It urged Clinton to "provide the leadership necessary to
save ourselves and the world from the scourge of Saddam and the weapons
of mass destruction that he refuses to relinquish."

In 1984, Donald Rumsfeld was in a position to draw the world's
attention to Saddam's chemical threat. He was in Baghdad as the UN
concluded that chemical weapons had been used against Iran. He was
armed with a fresh communication from the State Department that it had
"available evidence" Iraq was using chemical weapons. But Rumsfeld
said nothing.

Washington now speaks of Saddam's threat and the consequences of a
failure to act. Despite the fact that the administration has failed to
provide even a shred of concrete proof that Iraq has links to Al Qaeda
or has resumed production of chemical or biological agents, Rumsfeld
insists that "the absence of evidence is not evidence of absence."

But there is evidence of the absence of Donald Rumsfeld's voice at
the very moment when Iraq's alleged threat to international security
first emerged. And in this case, the evidence of absence is indeed
evidence.

http://www.commondreams.org/views02/0802-01.htm


All during the 1980's, Mobius, there was a Cold War going on between
the US and the USSR. That is why Saddam ewasn't stopped earlier.

  #5  
Old September 24th 06, 10:26 PM posted to rec.collecting.books,alt.politics,alt.politics.bush,alt.politics.democrats.d
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Default Great book that shows Rumsfeld as the mass-murderer he really is


Möbius Pretzel wrote:
Saddam's Secrets by Georges Sada. This book mentions things like
Saddam's dreaded Anfal Campaign in the 1980's where the king bum
murdered hundreds of thousands of Iraqi Kurds. Plus, stuff like how
Saddam (after 1991) was getting very wealthy and powerful again off oil
he secretly through Iran! it also talks about how many Iraqis are
making more cash now than when Saddam was in power.



The Saddam in Rumsfeld's Closet
by Jeremy Scahill


"Man and the turtle are very much alike. Neither makes any progress
without sticking his neck out."
-Donald Rumsfeld

Five years before Saddam Hussein's now infamous 1988 gassing of the
Kurds, a key meeting took place in Baghdad that would play a
significant role in forging close ties between Saddam Hussein and
Washington. It happened at a time when Saddam was first alleged to have
used chemical weapons. The meeting in late December 1983 paved the way
for an official restoration of relations between Iraq and the US, which
had been severed since the 1967 Arab-Israeli war.

With the Iran-Iraq war escalating, President Ronald Reagan dispatched
his Middle East envoy, a former secretary of defense, to Baghdad with a
hand-written letter to Iraqi President Saddam Hussein and a message
that Washington was willing at any moment to resume diplomatic
relations.

That envoy was Donald Rumsfeld.

Rumsfeld's December 19-20, 1983 visit to Baghdad made him the
highest-ranking US official to visit Iraq in 6 years. He met Saddam and
the two discussed "topics of mutual interest," according to the
Iraqi Foreign Ministry. "[Saddam] made it clear that Iraq was not
interested in making mischief in the world," Rumsfeld later told The
New York Times. "It struck us as useful to have a relationship, given
that we were interested in solving the Mideast problems."

Just 12 days after the meeting, on January 1, 1984, The Washington Post
reported that the United States "in a shift in policy, has informed
friendly Persian Gulf nations that the defeat of Iraq in the 3-year-old
war with Iran would be 'contrary to U.S. interests' and has made
several moves to prevent that result."

In March of 1984, with the Iran-Iraq war growing more brutal by the
day, Rumsfeld was back in Baghdad for meetings with then-Iraqi Foreign
Minister Tariq Aziz. On the day of his visit, March 24th, UPI reported
from the United Nations: "Mustard gas laced with a nerve agent has
been used on Iranian soldiers in the 43-month Persian Gulf War between
Iran and Iraq, a team of U.N. experts has concluded... Meanwhile, in
the Iraqi capital of Baghdad, U.S. presidential envoy Donald Rumsfeld
held talks with Foreign Minister Tarek Aziz (sic) on the Gulf war
before leaving for an unspecified destination."

The day before, the Iranian news agency alleged that Iraq launched
another chemical weapons assault on the southern battlefront, injuring
600 Iranian soldiers. "Chemical weapons in the form of aerial bombs
have been used in the areas inspected in Iran by the specialists,"
the U.N. report said. "The types of chemical agents used were
bis-(2-chlorethyl)-sulfide, also known as mustard gas, and ethyl N,
N-dimethylphosphoroamidocyanidate, a nerve agent known as Tabun."

Prior to the release of the UN report, the US State Department on March
5th had issued a statement saying "available evidence indicates that
Iraq has used lethal chemical weapons."

Commenting on the UN report, US Ambassador Jeane J. Kirkpatrick was
quoted by The New York Times as saying, "We think that the use of
chemical weapons is a very serious matter. We've made that clear in
general and particular."

Compared with the rhetoric emanating from the current administration,
based on speculations about what Saddam might have, Kirkpatrick's
reaction was hardly a call to action.

Most glaring is that Donald Rumsfeld was in Iraq as the 1984 UN report
was issued and said nothing about the allegations of chemical weapons
use, despite State Department "evidence." On the contrary, The New
York Times reported from Baghdad on March 29, 1984, "American
diplomats pronounce themselves satisfied with relations between Iraq
and the United States and suggest that normal diplomatic ties have been
restored in all but name."

A month and a half later, in May 1984, Donald Rumsfeld resigned. In
November of that year, full diplomatic relations between Iraq and the
US were fully restored. Two years later, in an article about
Rumsfeld's aspirations to run for the 1988 Republican Presidential
nomination, the Chicago Tribune Magazine listed among Rumsfeld's
achievements helping to "reopen U.S. relations with Iraq." The
Tribune failed to mention that this help came at a time when, according
to the US State Department, Iraq was actively using chemical weapons.

Throughout the period that Rumsfeld was Reagan's Middle East envoy,
Iraq was frantically purchasing hardware from American firms, empowered
by the White House to sell. The buying frenzy began immediately after
Iraq was removed from the list of alleged sponsors of terrorism in
1982. According to a February 13, 1991 Los Angeles Times article:

"First on Hussein's shopping list was helicopters -- he bought 60
Hughes helicopters and trainers with little notice. However, a second
order of 10 twin-engine Bell "Huey" helicopters, like those used to
carry combat troops in Vietnam, prompted congressional opposition in
August, 1983... Nonetheless, the sale was approved."

In 1984, according to The LA Times, the State Department-in the name
of "increased American penetration of the extremely competitive
civilian aircraft market"-pushed through the sale of 45 Bell 214ST
helicopters to Iraq. The helicopters, worth some $200 million, were
originally designed for military purposes. The New York Times later
reported that Saddam "transferred many, if not all [of these
helicopters] to his military."

In 1988, Saddam's forces attacked Kurdish civilians with poisonous
gas from Iraqi helicopters and planes. U.S. intelligence sources told
The LA Times in 1991, they "believe that the American-built
helicopters were among those dropping the deadly bombs."

In response to the gassing, sweeping sanctions were unanimously passed
by the US Senate that would have denied Iraq access to most US
technology. The measure was killed by the White House.

Senior officials later told reporters they did not press for punishment
of Iraq at the time because they wanted to shore up Iraq's ability to
pursue the war with Iran. Extensive research uncovered no public
statements by Donald Rumsfeld publicly expressing even remote concern
about Iraq's use or possession of chemical weapons until the week
Iraq invaded Kuwait in August 1990, when he appeared on an ABC news
special.

Eight years later, Donald Rumsfeld signed on to an "open letter" to
President Clinton, calling on him to eliminate "the threat posed by
Saddam." It urged Clinton to "provide the leadership necessary to
save ourselves and the world from the scourge of Saddam and the weapons
of mass destruction that he refuses to relinquish."

In 1984, Donald Rumsfeld was in a position to draw the world's
attention to Saddam's chemical threat. He was in Baghdad as the UN
concluded that chemical weapons had been used against Iran. He was
armed with a fresh communication from the State Department that it had
"available evidence" Iraq was using chemical weapons. But Rumsfeld
said nothing.

Washington now speaks of Saddam's threat and the consequences of a
failure to act. Despite the fact that the administration has failed to
provide even a shred of concrete proof that Iraq has links to Al Qaeda
or has resumed production of chemical or biological agents, Rumsfeld
insists that "the absence of evidence is not evidence of absence."

But there is evidence of the absence of Donald Rumsfeld's voice at
the very moment when Iraq's alleged threat to international security
first emerged. And in this case, the evidence of absence is indeed
evidence.

http://www.commondreams.org/views02/0802-01.htm


Not only was there a Cold War between the US and the near-to-Saddam
Soviet Union but also there was the aftermath effects of the early
1970's pacifist movement which slightly paralyzed the US military until
2003.

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Old September 24th 06, 10:28 PM posted to rec.collecting.books,alt.politics,alt.politics.bush,alt.politics.democrats.d
Möbius Pretzel
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Default Great book that shows Rumsfeld as the mass-murderer he really is

wrote:
Möbius Pretzel wrote:


The Saddam in Rumsfeld's Closet
http://www.commondreams.org/views02/0802-01.htm


All during the 1980's, Mobius, there was a Cold War going on between
the US and the USSR. That is why Saddam ewasn't stopped earlier.



Wasn't stopped?

He built by Regan's Regime.

  #7  
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Möbius Pretzel
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Default Great book that shows Rumsfeld as the mass-murderer he really is

wrote:
Möbius Pretzel wrote:


The Saddam in Rumsfeld's Closet
http://www.commondreams.org/views02/0802-01.htm


All during the 1980's, Mobius, there was a Cold War going on between
the US and the USSR. That is why Saddam ewasn't stopped earlier.



Wasn't stopped?

He was built by Regan's Regime.

 




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