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Old September 8th 04, 09:58 PM
Jackson
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The one frequently used term I have been seeing regarding altered or otherwise
cleaned coins is "whizzed". Is this an electrical or chemical process, or is
it just slang for dipped or polished?
Thanks in advance for a clarification!

Jackson
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Old September 8th 04, 11:07 PM
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Mechanical. Think "wire brush on a drill"

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"Jackson" wrote in message
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The one frequently used term I have been seeing regarding altered or
otherwise
cleaned coins is "whizzed". Is this an electrical or chemical process, or
is
it just slang for dipped or polished?
Thanks in advance for a clarification!

Jackson
AKA: Jack Grant



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Old September 9th 04, 12:31 AM
Jackson
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Thanks for the quick reply! I was wondering as I submitted a Mexican coin to
one of the top grading services that I have had in the vault for 40 years and
had purchased from one of the most respected dealers in that area (Neil
Utberg). I thot the coin was beautiful and untouched but they bodybagged it as
"whizzed". Do they sometimes make mistakes on something like this and should I
submit to another service?
Thanks again in advance!

Jackson
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Old September 9th 04, 12:39 AM
Earl Bollinger
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"Whizzed" is actually a bit more sophisticated than a wire brush on a demel.
You'd actually use different small tips and rubbing compounds, to polish out
various areas on a coin.
Especially those flat areas to make them shiny or more matte like.
Usually you avoid going over any of the designs on a coin and just
concentrate on the flat areas.
If you look closely at the surfaces with a loupe, you can usually see tiny
little scratches (usually circular in pattern)
on the coin. This is because they use progressively finer polishing
compounds to polish the coin up.
But the polishing stops short of touching the detail desgins on the coin.For
example a Star, will have a small area aound it that isn't polished.
ANACS and some others will slab the coin but they'll note it as being
"whizzed" on the label.

"Jackson" wrote in message
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Thanks for the quick reply! I was wondering as I submitted a Mexican coin
to
one of the top grading services that I have had in the vault for 40 years
and
had purchased from one of the most respected dealers in that area (Neil
Utberg). I thot the coin was beautiful and untouched but they bodybagged
it as
"whizzed". Do they sometimes make mistakes on something like this and
should I
submit to another service?
Thanks again in advance!

Jackson



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Old September 9th 04, 01:12 AM
Jackson
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Thanks for all the help. I just shipped it off to ANACS, so we will see what
happens.
There were a lot of bagmarks (it is a 1921 2 Peso), so maybe they were
interpreted as whiz marks.

Thanks again!

Jackson
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Old September 9th 04, 04:17 AM
Wes Chormicle
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A few years ago I sent a 1877 Indian Cent to ANACS, it came back as
"Whizzed". I then sent it to PCGS it came back AU 58. So the answer is
YES, the slab companies do make mistakes. (BTW, I did not think it was
whizzed)

Wes


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Thanks for all the help. I just shipped it off to ANACS, so we will see

what
happens.
There were a lot of bagmarks (it is a 1921 2 Peso), so maybe they were
interpreted as whiz marks.

Thanks again!

Jackson



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Old September 9th 04, 05:43 AM
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The old PCI seemed to have problems confusing die polish lines (raised) with
hairline scratches (incuse.) I remember a shipment of early commems where
they graded most as AU58 whizzed and ANACS graded them (properly) as MS63 to
MS64.

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"Jackson" wrote in message
...
Thanks for the quick reply! I was wondering as I submitted a Mexican coin
to
one of the top grading services that I have had in the vault for 40 years
and
had purchased from one of the most respected dealers in that area (Neil
Utberg). I thot the coin was beautiful and untouched but they bodybagged
it as
"whizzed". Do they sometimes make mistakes on something like this and
should I
submit to another service?
Thanks again in advance!

Jackson



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Old September 9th 04, 04:09 PM
J. A. M.
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Wes Chormicle wrote:

A few years ago I sent a 1877 Indian Cent to ANACS, it came back as
"Whizzed". I then sent it to PCGS it came back AU 58. So the answer is
YES, the slab companies do make mistakes. (BTW, I did not think it was
whizzed)

Wes

"Jackson" wrote in message
...
Thanks for all the help. I just shipped it off to ANACS, so we will see

what
happens.
There were a lot of bagmarks (it is a 1921 2 Peso), so maybe they were
interpreted as whiz marks.

Thanks again!

Jackson


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That was going to be my question.

Which company do you think made the mistake?

JAM
 




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