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I'd love to see this kind of criminal prosecution in the "Coin Industry"...



 
 
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Old April 12th 13, 02:11 PM posted to rec.collecting.coins
oly
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Default I'd love to see this kind of criminal prosecution in the "Coin Industry"...

For "fiddling with" collectibles and claiming that they are still
original... But the Chicago judge probably made this kind of criminal
prosecution more difficult in the future, unfortunately...

http://www.npr.org/blogs/thetwo-way/...card-ever-sold

Let's hope some of our hobby luminaries get ensnared!!!

oly
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Old April 12th 13, 02:16 PM posted to rec.collecting.coins
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Default I'd love to see this kind of criminal prosecution in the "Coin Industry"...

On Apr 12, 8:11*am, oly wrote:
For "fiddling with" collectibles and claiming that they are still
original... But the Chicago judge probably made this kind of criminal
prosecution more difficult in the future, unfortunately...

http://www.npr.org/blogs/thetwo-way/...8/dealer-says-...

Let's hope some of our hobby luminaries get ensnared!!!

oly


Oh, this version of the story doesn't note that the Chicago Judge
rejected the 30 months plea bargain - so there will be another amount
of time agreed upon or a trial, one supposes... card dealer defendant
is looking at up to 20 years sentence if found guilty at trial (but he
also might be found not guilty, one supposes).

oly
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Old April 16th 13, 08:49 PM posted to rec.collecting.coins
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Default I'd love to see this kind of criminal prosecution in the "Coin Industry"...

Normally a "trimmed" card is undersize...but this particular card seems to have been cut with sissors from a full sheet many years ago. (Thousands of uncut sheets containing T206 were trashed by the printer when Wagner demanded that his card not be distributed with cigarettes, which he felt encouraged youth to smoke simply to get his card. At one time the margins were irregular and extra wide, and Bill Mastro, about 30 years ago, seems to have cut it down to spec and squared up the edges. PSA graded it 8-NM and since the card was not undersized, there was nothing that would indicate a trimming. Is trimming to make a card appear to be higher grade (hoping no one will notice the smaller size or the tight margins)the same as trimming away extra paper? It's still the finest T206, and the current owner thinks the publicity will add $1/2 million to the value.

Like the 1804 dollars, which are back-dated fantasies, people still want this finest known T206, which if it were any other card, it would be worth very little...as are almost all other cards that are hand cut from printer's spoilage rather than distributed in cigarette or gum packages.
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Old April 17th 13, 03:55 AM posted to rec.collecting.coins
Lord Hawhaw
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Default I'd love to see this kind of criminal prosecution in the "Coin Industry"...



"Frank Provasek" wrote in message
...

Normally a "trimmed" card is undersize...but this particular card seems to have
been cut with sissors from a full sheet many years ago. (Thousands of uncut
sheets containing T206 were trashed by the printer when Wagner demanded that
his card not be distributed with cigarettes, which he felt encouraged youth to
smoke simply to get his card. At one time the margins were irregular and extra
wide, and Bill Mastro, about 30 years ago, seems to have cut it down to spec
and squared up the edges. PSA graded it 8-NM and since the card was not
undersized, there was nothing that would indicate a trimming. Is trimming to
make a card appear to be higher grade (hoping no one will notice the smaller
size or the tight margins)the same as trimming away extra paper? It's still
the finest T206, and the current owner thinks the publicity will add $1/2
million to the value.


Like the 1804 dollars, which are back-dated fantasies, people still want this
finest known T206, which if it were any other card, it would be worth very
little...as are almost all other cards that are hand cut from printer's
spoilage rather than distributed in cigarette or gum packages.


There you have it people, Frank endorses unethical behavior. Figures.
Glad to see you're back from Berdoo, Frank. How that TS prostitute thing working
out for you?

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Old April 17th 13, 07:28 AM posted to rec.collecting.coins
Jason Burke[_2_]
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Default I'd love to see this kind of criminal prosecution in the "CoinIndustry"...

On 4/16/2013 7:55 PM, Lord Hawhaw wrote:


"Frank Provasek" wrote in message
...

Normally a "trimmed" card is undersize...but this particular card
seems to have been cut with sissors from a full sheet many years ago.
(Thousands of uncut sheets containing T206 were trashed by the
printer when Wagner demanded that his card not be distributed with
cigarettes, which he felt encouraged youth to smoke simply to get his
card. At one time the margins were irregular and extra wide, and Bill
Mastro, about 30 years ago, seems to have cut it down to spec and
squared up the edges. PSA graded it 8-NM and since the card was not
undersized, there was nothing that would indicate a trimming. Is
trimming to make a card appear to be higher grade (hoping no one will
notice the smaller size or the tight margins)the same as trimming away
extra paper? It's still the finest T206, and the current owner thinks
the publicity will add $1/2 million to the value.


Like the 1804 dollars, which are back-dated fantasies, people still
want this finest known T206, which if it were any other card, it
would be worth very little...as are almost all other cards that are
hand cut from printer's spoilage rather than distributed in cigarette
or gum packages.


There you have it people, Frank endorses unethical behavior. Figures.
Glad to see you're back from Berdoo, Frank. How that TS prostitute thing
working out for you?


And Bobbie hasn't SUCCESSFULLY committed suicide yet because...?

Probably too busy jacking off over pictures of Frankie and Joey looking
at the Tower Treasure.

Say! We should get Bobbie a hooker. Lord knows he can't get any any
other way.
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Old April 22nd 13, 01:46 PM posted to rec.collecting.coins
Frank Provasek
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Default I'd love to see this kind of criminal prosecution in the "Coin Industry"...

On Apr 16, 9:55*pm, "Lord Hawhaw" wrote:
"Frank Provasek" *wrote in message

...









Normally a "trimmed" card is undersize...but this particular card seems to have
been cut with sissors from a full sheet many years ago. *(Thousands of uncut
sheets containing T206 were trashed *by the printer when Wagner demanded that
his card not be distributed with cigarettes, which he felt encouraged youth to
smoke simply to get his card. *At one time the margins were irregular and extra
wide, and Bill Mastro, about 30 years ago, seems to have cut it down to spec
and squared up the edges. *PSA graded it 8-NM and since the card was not
undersized, there was nothing that would indicate a trimming. *Is trimming to
make a card appear to be higher grade (hoping no one will notice the smaller
size or the tight margins)the same as trimming away extra paper? *It's still
the finest T206, and the current owner thinks the publicity will add $1/2
million to the value.
Like the 1804 dollars, which are back-dated fantasies, people still want this
finest known T206, *which if it were any other card, it would be worth very
little...as are almost all other cards that are hand cut from printer's
spoilage rather than distributed in cigarette or gum packages.


There you have it people, Frank endorses unethical behavior. Figures.
Glad to see you're back from Berdoo, Frank. How that TS prostitute thing working
out for you?


Nothing in my post endorses unethical behavior.
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Old April 22nd 13, 04:33 PM posted to rec.collecting.coins
Lord Hawhaw
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Default I'd love to see this kind of criminal prosecution in the "Coin Industry"...



"Frank Provasek" wrote in message
...
There you have it people, Frank endorses unethical behavior. Figures.
Glad to see you're back from Berdoo, Frank. How that TS prostitute thing
working out for you?


Nothing in my post endorses unethical behavior.


Anyway, how's the transsexual prostitution thing working out?

 




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