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  #11  
Old October 15th 07, 01:58 PM posted to rec.collecting.stamps.discuss
rodney
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Default Soaking Stamps.


"Ralphael1" wrote in message
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Sir Rodney, your problem is that you do not have a delicate touch.
Some stamps don't like to be man-handled, especially the nudes. :-)
Ralphael, the OLD one


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Old October 16th 07, 08:41 AM posted to rec.collecting.stamps.discuss
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Default Soaking Stamps.

On Oct 15, 1:58 pm, "rodney" wrote:
"Ralphael1" wrote in message

ups.com...

Sir Rodney, your problem is that you do not have a delicate touch.
Some stamps don't like to be man-handled, especially the nudes. :-)
Ralphael, the OLD one


man-handling stamps Yeah!
remember when stamp collecting was FUN?http://cjoint.com/data/kpo2bJZAXk.htm



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Old October 16th 07, 08:52 AM posted to rec.collecting.stamps.discuss
malcolm
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Default Soaking Stamps.

With care it is usually safe to peel the paper from the stamp - NEVER
the stamp from the paper.

Multiples are best dealt with in a "sweat box".

BTW I never let the stamp float off the paper completely - the paper
strengthen the wet stamp while it is transferred to the blotting paper
- once the excess water has been "blotted off" the stamp it is
normally then strong enough to be handled with tongs.

I do lots of soaking, and I practiced with a half pound of cheap
kiloware !!! A range of techniques is necessary dependent on the type
of paper of stamp,type of gum and consistency of backing paper ( old
hinge remnants are best removed with an artists brush and warm water -
no need to soak the stamp. ).

Remember to change the water frequently - I change it after every soak
- gum suspended in the water can cause havoc with the next batch.
Stubborn old organic gums need to be scraped off or removed with a
brush or wet blotting paper depending on thickness ( sometimes all 3
in succession !! )

The most efficient way to proceed is to soak stamps of the same
country, issue etc together using the same technique then move on to
the resat.

Malcolm










On Oct 15, 1:58 pm, "rodney" wrote:
"Ralphael1" wrote in message

ups.com...

Sir Rodney, your problem is that you do not have a delicate touch.
Some stamps don't like to be man-handled, especially the nudes. :-)
Ralphael, the OLD one


man-handling stamps Yeah!
remember when stamp collecting was FUN?http://cjoint.com/data/kpo2bJZAXk.htm



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Old October 16th 07, 07:47 PM posted to rec.collecting.stamps.discuss
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On Mon, 15 Oct 2007 14:13:22 +0800, "rodney"
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Windows Clerk #1 mentioned not using POINTY tongs when soaking stamps,
if not mistaken. I use spade tongs ALL the time. In fact, this is
one area that spades have over the pointy (prissy, elitist) tongs.


Prissy? Hrmph.
I'll have to request you return, my skin moisturiser, and lip balm
at your earliest convenience.

Spades are frustrating, the stamps swivel in the grip,
and perfs suffer from constant buffeting of the spade blade.


It's not how big the spade is, it's how you use it that counts. :^)
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Old October 17th 07, 12:45 AM posted to rec.collecting.stamps.discuss
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On Mon, 15 Oct 2007 14:13:22 +0800, "rodney"
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It's not how big the spade is, it's how you use it that counts. :^)


nicely side stepped,
OK

choose your weapon.
http://cjoint.com/data/krbOpfbKe4.htm

Mine has the length of the pointed, but the ends
are rounded (slightly).




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Old October 17th 07, 09:02 PM posted to rec.collecting.stamps.discuss
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On Wed, 17 Oct 2007 07:45:39 +0800, "rodney"
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On Mon, 15 Oct 2007 14:13:22 +0800, "rodney"
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It's not how big the spade is, it's how you use it that counts. :^)


nicely side stepped,


--- :^P

OK


choose your weapon.
http://cjoint.com/data/krbOpfbKe4.htm


A duel at 10,000 miles! Awesome!

Mine has the length of the pointed, but the ends
are rounded (slightly).


Mine are not angled, but are spades nevertheless. Call a spade a
spade!

What I find interesting is that I am using them more and more. When
working with stamps, they're almost always in hand or ready. I use
them to separate, lift, etc., because my pudgy paws will do almost as
much damage as those pointy things (albeit with rounded ends) you use.

I can actually use them quite well in the soaker bins instead of using
fingers to get them. Good for poking the pile around, picking them
up, separating them and also for rubbing that slightly extra gunk off
them. Wouldn't try that with pointy tongs.

I guess that pointies have a purpose in this hobby, but I'll still
remain what the purists call a "beginner" when it comes to tongs.
Better safe than sorry.

On with the duel, sah! Nahhhh... better yet, wish me luck because
I'm sorting French "Sower" issues right now. almost as much torture
as being locked in a room with a ton of Machins, but not quite.
  #17  
Old October 19th 07, 06:39 PM posted to rec.collecting.stamps.discuss
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Default Soaking Stamps.

Hello,

For Machins a very extensive handbook exist, does such a handbook exist for
the French "sower" issue, if so please give a reference.

schreef in bericht
...
On Wed, 17 Oct 2007 07:45:39 +0800, "rodney"
wrote:


wrote in message
. ..
On Mon, 15 Oct 2007 14:13:22 +0800, "rodney"
wrote:


It's not how big the spade is, it's how you use it that counts. :^)


nicely side stepped,


--- :^P

OK


choose your weapon.
http://cjoint.com/data/krbOpfbKe4.htm


A duel at 10,000 miles! Awesome!

Mine has the length of the pointed, but the ends
are rounded (slightly).


Mine are not angled, but are spades nevertheless. Call a spade a
spade!

What I find interesting is that I am using them more and more. When
working with stamps, they're almost always in hand or ready. I use
them to separate, lift, etc., because my pudgy paws will do almost as
much damage as those pointy things (albeit with rounded ends) you use.

I can actually use them quite well in the soaker bins instead of using
fingers to get them. Good for poking the pile around, picking them
up, separating them and also for rubbing that slightly extra gunk off
them. Wouldn't try that with pointy tongs.

I guess that pointies have a purpose in this hobby, but I'll still
remain what the purists call a "beginner" when it comes to tongs.
Better safe than sorry.

On with the duel, sah! Nahhhh... better yet, wish me luck because
I'm sorting French "Sower" issues right now. almost as much torture
as being locked in a room with a ton of Machins, but not quite.





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Old October 20th 07, 01:30 AM posted to rec.collecting.stamps.discuss
rodney
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Default (RCSD) French Sower Handbook.


"Tim der Kinderen" wrote in message
...
Hello,
For Machins a very extensive handbook exist, does such a handbook exist

for
the French "sower" issue, if so please give a reference.


G'day Tim,
I think not.
I asked a similar question some time ago.
this may or may not be of help.

snipped

Rod a écrit:
"French Sower"
I was considering doing some housekeeping on
my collection of about 3000 pieces. I have the Yvert Catalogue
and the task seems a little daunting.
Could anyone suggest, If I seek out a Stanley Gibbons
specialised catalogue, would the detail be of a similar complexity
to Yvert?
I would like the complexity without the language barrier.


I'd be happy to help, although my area of expertise
is strictly French from France...

I'm collecting "La Semeuse", more from a thematic
(actually open class, but I'm a stamp collector
that's interrested in stamps and not the subject of
stamps) point of vue...

I don't thing the Y&T is the best way to go, the
types aren't well described, the reference is still
the Marianne (edition 1985), but I can understand
it's difficult to find for you, even more it's in French.

You may want to see this
http://www.rpsl.org.uk/la_semeuse/


--
Cordialement
Dominique Stéphan
http://blog-philatelie.blogspot.com/ Mon blog philatélie



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Old October 21st 07, 12:36 AM posted to rec.collecting.stamps.discuss
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Default (RCSD) French Sower Handbook.

On Sat, 20 Oct 2007 08:30:13 +0800, "rodney"
wrote:


"Tim der Kinderen" wrote in message
. ..
Hello,
For Machins a very extensive handbook exist, does such a handbook exist

for
the French "sower" issue, if so please give a reference.


G'day Tim,
I think not.
I asked a similar question some time ago.
this may or may not be of help.

snipped

Rod a écrit:
"French Sower"
I was considering doing some housekeeping on
my collection of about 3000 pieces. I have the Yvert Catalogue
and the task seems a little daunting.
Could anyone suggest, If I seek out a Stanley Gibbons
specialised catalogue, would the detail be of a similar complexity
to Yvert?
I would like the complexity without the language barrier.


I'd be happy to help, although my area of expertise
is strictly French from France...

I'm collecting "La Semeuse", more from a thematic
(actually open class, but I'm a stamp collector
that's interrested in stamps and not the subject of
stamps) point of vue...

I don't thing the Y&T is the best way to go, the
types aren't well described, the reference is still
the Marianne (edition 1985), but I can understand
it's difficult to find for you, even more it's in French.

You may want to see this
http://www.rpsl.org.uk/la_semeuse/


That's a good start. Further, Y & T aren't the only publishers. We
can't discount Dallay & Ceres for their contributions. :^)
  #20  
Old October 23rd 07, 05:14 PM posted to rec.collecting.stamps.discuss
Tim der Kinderen
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Default (RCSD) French Sower Handbook.

Rodney and Tracy,

Thanks for the information. At the moment I try to "tame" the Machins but
after that I will tackle the "Sower" issue

Tim

"rodney" schreef in bericht
...

"Tim der Kinderen" wrote in message
...
Hello,
For Machins a very extensive handbook exist, does such a handbook exist

for
the French "sower" issue, if so please give a reference.


G'day Tim,
I think not.
I asked a similar question some time ago.
this may or may not be of help.

snipped

Rod a écrit:
"French Sower"
I was considering doing some housekeeping on
my collection of about 3000 pieces. I have the Yvert Catalogue
and the task seems a little daunting.
Could anyone suggest, If I seek out a Stanley Gibbons
specialised catalogue, would the detail be of a similar complexity
to Yvert?
I would like the complexity without the language barrier.


I'd be happy to help, although my area of expertise
is strictly French from France...

I'm collecting "La Semeuse", more from a thematic
(actually open class, but I'm a stamp collector
that's interrested in stamps and not the subject of
stamps) point of vue...

I don't thing the Y&T is the best way to go, the
types aren't well described, the reference is still
the Marianne (edition 1985), but I can understand
it's difficult to find for you, even more it's in French.

You may want to see this
http://www.rpsl.org.uk/la_semeuse/


--
Cordialement
Dominique Stéphan
http://blog-philatelie.blogspot.com/ Mon blog philatélie







 




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