Read about the former museum staffer!!!

Great story.

See about three-quarters of the way down about how to lose your museum
job!!!

http://news.aol.com/article/rare-isl...542x1200690688

oly

On Oct 8, 12:42*am, oly wrote:
Great story.

See about three-quarters of the way down about how to lose your museum
job!!!

http://news.aol.com/article/rare-isl...-for-55/203830...

oly


Stuff happens. I remember reading about a rare bottle of wine (6 or
7 figures) that someone tapped against the
side of a table for some unknown reason and the bottle broke.

On Oct 8, 1:33*pm, stonej wrote:
On Oct 8, 12:42*am, oly wrote:

Great story.

See about three-quarters of the way down about how to lose your museum
job!!!

http://news.aol.com/article/rare-isl...-for-55/203830...

oly

Stuff happens. * I remember reading about a rare bottle of wine (6 or
7 figures) that someone tapped against the
side of a table for some unknown reason and the bottle broke.

I seem to recall that that one was a bottle of Chateau d'Yquem which
Thomas Jefferson had imported from France, pre-French Revolution. Or
something like that. It was a lot of money, but I don't think it
exceeded $200,000.

oly

In article
,
stonej wrote:

On Oct 8, 12:42*am, oly wrote:
Great story.

See about three-quarters of the way down about how to lose your
museum
job!!!

http://news.aol.com/article/rare-isl...-for-55/203830.
..

oly


Stuff happens. I remember reading about a rare bottle of wine (6 or
7 figures) that someone tapped against the
side of a table for some unknown reason and the bottle broke.

Could be worse ... someone could conceivably accidentally
poke a hole in a $50 million Picasso painting ...

--
Ken Barr Numismatics
P. O. Box 32541 website: http://www.kenbarr.com
San Jose, CA 95152 (souvenir cards, MPC, Hickey Bros tokens)
408-272-3247 Next show: DNS Show Concord 10/11 (tentative, no table)

On Oct 8, 3:53*pm, Ken Barr wrote:
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On Oct 8, 12:42*am, oly wrote:
Great story.

See about three-quarters of the way down about how to lose your
museum
job!!!

http://news.aol.com/article/rare-isl...-for-55/203830.
..

oly

Stuff happens. * I remember reading about a rare bottle of wine (6 or
7 figures) that someone tapped against the
side of a table for some unknown reason and the bottle broke.

Could be worse ... someone could conceivably accidentally
poke a hole in a $50 million Picasso painting ...

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P. O. Box 32541 * * * * * * * * website: *http://www.kenbarr.com
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Well, last year some media/cable mogul was showing a $135 million
dollar painting (quite a modern piece) to some guests and he poked a
great big hole in it with his elbow! If I remember, one of the guests
was Barbara Walters or Andrea Mitchell or some similar TV celebrity.
But this mogul dude had a big fat insurance policy and I think he got
a big payoff and the insurance company got a damaged painting (which
they hoped to repair and resell).

But unlike the shattered early Moslem ewer in the Italian museum,
there was no loss in this painting, at least not to the world's
artisitic heritage.

oly

"Ken Barr" wrote in message
...
Could be worse ... someone could conceivably accidentally
poke a hole in a $50 million Picasso painting ...

No great loss there. Picasso paintings are the equivalent of drawing "stick
man cartoons", required the skill of the 3rd grader. In a rational world,
they would be worth as much as a corn turd.

On Oct 8, 10:11*pm, "Charles Cooper" wrote:
"Ken Barr" wrote in message

...

Could be worse ... someone could conceivably accidentally
poke a hole in a $50 million Picasso painting ...

No great loss there. *Picasso paintings are the equivalent of drawing "stick
man cartoons", required the skill of the 3rd grader. *In a rational world,
they would be worth as much as a corn turd.

I read once that about 1920 or so, Picasso married very well, the
daughter of a French General or somebody on that order. By French
bourgeois standards, he married way over his head. Solid Money too.

Then Picasso went from reasonably nice works to trashy stuff. He did
it intentionally, to subtly show how stupid the rich were. He found
that the trashy stuff would sell too, and never went back to his
former better stuff (Picasso could MOL do the whole classic to
impressionist to cubist gamut).

oly

On Thu, 9 Oct 2008 09:29:29 -0700, "Charles Cooper"
wrote:


"oly" wrote in message I read once that about 1920 or so,
Picasso married very well, the daughter of a French General or somebody on
that order. By French bourgeois standards, he married way over his head.
Solid Money too. Then Picasso went from reasonably nice works to trashy
stuff. He did it intentionally, to subtly show how stupid the rich were.
He found that the trashy stuff would sell too, and never went back to his
former better stuff (Picasso could MOL do the whole classic to impressionist
to cubist gamut).

Interesting, never knew that about Picasso. Abstract art is just garbage
that rich people buy so they can feel "worldly" and good about themselves.

Absolute nonsense. People buy and collect what they like or what they
feel will appreciate in value. It's no sillier to buy an expensive
abstract painting than it is to buy a coin at a premium price because
it has never been used for its intended purpose or because the
production run of that coin was smaller than the production run of
other coins.

Coins exist because they are a medium of exchange. They are minted so
that we have a way to acquire things by a simpler method than trading
goats or chickens or whatever for what we want. A penny should have a
value of one cent regardless of the date, mint mark, or condition.
However, some people create an artificial value for that penny based
on the date, mint mark, and condition.

The only difference between coin dealers/collectors and abstract art
dealers/collectors is the object that they create an artificial value
for.

Wealthy individuals who doesn't have the sense to spend money on more
practical things buy this type of expensive junk.

There are individuals who don't have the sense to use coins to buy
practical things like a loaf of bread, but - instead - encapsulate the
coins in plastic and stick them in drawers.

We, individually, can make a choice to exercise our own version of
lack of sense and enjoy and benefit from that lack of sense. It's
nonsense to criticize someone else's choice.

--
Tony Cooper - Orlando, Florida

"Charles Cooper" wrote in message
...
Interesting, never knew that about Picasso. Abstract art is just garbage
that rich people buy so they can feel "worldly" and good about themselves.
Wealthy individuals who doesn't have the sense to spend money on more
practical things buy this type of expensive junk.

Example of misguided purchase: "Hey, look what I bought (jumping up and
down, waving arms wildly), I have culture! I'm proof than man has evolved
into something more than a monkey that can talk! If you can't see what a
fine piece of "artwork" this is, then maybe you're further down the
evolutionary chain than I am."

I don't let some loser that declares himself to be an art critic influence
my perception. "Oh, Robert Hughes says this is a masterpiece, so it must
be! Let me get my checkbook!"

It doesn't take much intellect to recognize when a lack of skill is touted
as a masterpiece by the deluded. The world is full of elitists with too
much wealth who interpret smudges, smears and drips as being
artwork...relying on the artspeak crutch for their "enlightened" opinions.

Even "fine art" cannot be defined in a tangible sense. It's a vaguery,
always open to interpretation, varying opinion and is objective. One
person's fine
art is another person's "diarrhea splatter on canvas".

A high percentage of art demands a wild imagination, bordering on
hallucination (mainly with regard to abstract art which really isn't art
at
all). Abstract art is a perfectly good waste of imagination. A good
example would be the work (garbage) of Helen Frankenthaler. Just a bunch
of
nonsense bringing high prices from wealthy fools who want to feel good
about
themselves. The young man who mischieviously defaced that joke of a
painting called "The Bay", may have made an improvement when he tattooed
his
bubble gum to the canvas several years ago.
There is nothing redeeming about abstract art. One can purchase
paintings, such as Frankenthaler's as an investment until it can
unloaded for a profit to another rich fool who wants to feel good about
themselves? Or perhaps to cover up a nail hole or wall damage? Anyone
who
admires
bizarre color splotches on canvas is definitely brain damaged. I've heard
that the severely mentally disabled like to stand and stare at abstract
art
hung on the walls in psychiatric hospitals.

Wow, an Aart bigot. That's sad and funny at the same time.

mk
buy it if you like it.





"oly" wrote in message I read once that about 1920 or
so,
Picasso married very well, the daughter of a French General or somebody on
that order. By French bourgeois standards, he married way over his head.
Solid Money too. Then Picasso went from reasonably nice works to trashy
stuff. He did it intentionally, to subtly show how stupid the rich were.
He found that the trashy stuff would sell too, and never went back to his
former better stuff (Picasso could MOL do the whole classic to
impressionist
to cubist gamut).

On Oct 9, 10:14*am, tony cooper wrote:
On Thu, 9 Oct 2008 09:29:29 -0700, "Charles Cooper"

wrote:

"oly" wrote in message I read once that about 1920 or so,
Picasso married very well, the daughter of a French General or somebody on
that order. *By French bourgeois standards, he married way over his head.
Solid Money too. *Then Picasso went from reasonably nice works to trashy
stuff. *He did it intentionally, to subtly show how stupid the rich were.
He found that the trashy stuff would sell too, and never went back to his
former better stuff (Picasso could MOL do the whole classic to impressionist
to cubist gamut).

Interesting, never knew that about Picasso. *Abstract art is just garbage
that rich people buy so they can feel "worldly" and good about themselves.

Absolute nonsense. *People buy and collect what they like or what they
feel will appreciate in value. *It's no sillier to buy an expensive
abstract painting than it is to buy a coin at a premium price because
it has never been used for its intended purpose or because the
production run of that coin was smaller than the production run of
other coins.

Coins exist because they are a medium of exchange. *They are minted so
that we have a way to acquire things by a simpler method than trading
goats or chickens or whatever for what we want. *A penny should have a
value of one cent regardless of the date, mint mark, or condition.
However, some people create an artificial value for that penny based
on the date, mint mark, and condition.

Why is the value "artificial"?
Well, anymore artificial than the gubmint saying 2¢ worth of metal is
worth a quarter or a dollar anyway? Don't even get me started on FRNs!
Seems to me the value is real enough since it's established in an open
market with (presumably) informed buyers & sellers.