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WARNING: Noodler's Inks
In article , "~****-magnet~" wrote:
[snip] ink-flow but I hesitate to load it into a Pelican since someone complained to me that Noodler's totally ruined his Pelikan and lead to replacement. He didn't say what nib he was using but I heeded his [snip] may be i'm lucky. i have been using Noodler in 3 Pelikans without problem. but they're all median nibs. i do agree that they're highly pigmented. & it make changing ink colors quite tedious. (have to more times than other inks) regards, ========== Pam @ Home Cort Furniture Rental and Honesty are two mutually exclusive concepts. |
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WARNING: Noodler's Inks
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WARNING: Noodler's Inks
During the previous 20 years, my pens have gone sometimes ninety days+
without activity and never dried out. Rather than facing the time consuming ritual of purging the ink in anticipation of an extended holiday, I just won't use Noodles ink in my medium nibbed pens. A good suggestion - be vigil of Noodler+medium/fine point+time-period scenario. Mikey, you're a lucky guy having the correct combination of pen and time schedule. I love the ink otherwise; I'll continue to use the unadulterated product in my MB. I don't think concrete could clogg that device! "mge" wrote in message ... 9 days left sitting with ink in any pen.........will cause a problem. I can only ditto Mr. Swisher here on Noodler's and BTW, it would be easier for me to list the Noodler's colors and inks that I don't have vs. the ones that I do, much easier. "~****-magnet~" wrote in message . com... "Chuck Swisher" wrote in message news:jcbeg.205547$5Z.14400@dukeread02... ****-magnet wrote: These inks may not be the best for medium and/or fine nibbed pens. I have experienced drying and clogging of both a Waterman and Romet medium, both newer pens. Because the higher concentration of pigment in Noodlers, the stroke-line looks better when used with fine and medium nibs but be prepared for problems. Using the same two Noodler's inks in a broad-nib MB seems to be no problem with it's generous ink-flow but I hesitate to load it into a Pelican since someone complained to me that Noodler's totally ruined his Pelikan and lead to replacement. He didn't say what nib he was using but I heeded his warning. Noodler's inks are so striking in appearance so it is very disappointing. It is certainly an opposite to the more watery Pelican inks so perhaps there is a reason. Hello ****-magnet, Just curious, what exactly was it that Noodler's supposedly did to this Pelikan? I would love to see proof that Noodler's ink caused any damage to this pen. I've been using Noodler's inks in my Pelikans (both vintage and modern) since it first hit the market and I've had no problems whatsoever with ink flow in any of my Pelikans nor has it caused any damage to any of these pens. I do agree that it doesn't flow the greatest in pens that have very fine feed channels but this can be adjusted by adding a little distilled water to the ink. Chuck Swisher I haven't used it in my Pelican and I won't. It works fine in my MB. As for the Waterman and Romet, both pens would not flow after sitting nine days. What kind of "proof" do you want? The ink is concentrated and leaves a beautiful mark but I will not use it is any pen that doesn't have a generous flow (namely fine or medium nibs.) You are suggesting that I dilute it. I will draw 5 ml of ink and add 10 drops of dist h2o. I like the midnight blue with the finer medium nib and am willing to try it again. I have a 3 oz bottle and wouldn't want it to go to waste. Besides, after a little effort, both pens did seem to unclog w/o perm damage. I must still emphasize that it is a good idea to remove the ink from such pens if they aren't going to be used for a while. Another collector/dealer advised me that the ink ruined his pen to a point where after he unclogged it, it still never worked right and subsequently he had to replace the nib. If that happened to me, I'd ask the ink mfg to pay for a new nib. If they refused, I'd penalize them by some other gradifying method. I'll post in a few weeks and advise if the dilution helps. |
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"Tetractys" wrote in message news ~****-magnet~ wrote: ... someone complained to me that Noodler's totally ruined his Pelikan and lead to replacement. ... Friend of a friend? Humbug, I say. I have used a Swisher-bought Pelikan 600 with a fine nib loaded with Noodler's black quite carelessly with no ill effect whatever. I leave it in the pen for weeks at a time, pick it up and write with it without so much as a fraction of a millimeter skippage. No clogging, no ruination, no tilting of the Earth on its axis. Perhaps your FOAF's Pelly was ruinated by injudicious loanage? I've had the Pelly about a month. I'll never loan it to anyone. Once I let a bank officer use my MB briefly. She held it upside-down and made a feathery scratch that squirted ink across the doc. It was actually funny. Fortunately the pen wasn't harmed. The majority of people haven't ever seen a FP let alone knowing how to use one. |
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WARNING: Noodler's Inks
"Gordon Mattingly" wrote in message ... The combination of pen and ink writers choose is as personal as their handwriting and so their resulting experience will vary. This is simply a response for the consideration of other readers. I keep a dozen pens charged at any given time: Pelikans, Kawecos (one vintage), Parker 51's, a Lamy, Namiki and Sheaffer, most with fine or extra fine nibs and all but one are filled with various formulations of Noodler's ink. My most frequently utilized pen is a Pelikan M400 in EF loaded with Noodler's Air Corps blue-black. I have never experienced any mechanical problems or damage that I would attribute to the ink. I am not a chemist, nor an engineer, but I fail to see, short of a corrosive effect on the pen itself, how any water soluble ink can "ruin" a pen. Gordon Mattingly I don't know what the criteria is. I've personally never had any ink ruin any pen either. I'd like to keep it that way. |
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"Terry McGinty" wrote in message news "~****-magnet~" Methinks your name has everything to do with your problems, and nothing to so with pens and ink. I've used Noodler's inks in my fine nibbed pens for some time with nary a problem. luck-magnet Temporarily I am using someone else's account and have not disturbed his settings. "****-magnet" or any name that appears is no more relevant than any other. I appreciate your positive overture! wrote in message . com... These inks may not be the best for medium and/or fine nibbed pens. I have experienced drying and clogging of both a Waterman and Romet medium, both newer pens. Because the higher concentration of pigment in Noodlers, the stroke-line looks better when used with fine and medium nibs but be prepared for problems. Using the same two Noodler's inks in a broad-nib MB seems to be no problem with it's generous ink-flow but I hesitate to load it into a Pelican since someone complained to me that Noodler's totally ruined his Pelikan and lead to replacement. He didn't say what nib he was using but I heeded his warning. Noodler's inks are so striking in appearance so it is very disappointing. It is certainly an opposite to the more watery Pelican inks so perhaps there is a reason. -T |
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WARNING: Noodler's Inks
"John B. Egger" wrote in message ... Terry McGinty wrote: "~****-magnet~" Methinks your name has everything to do with your problems, and nothing to so with pens and ink. I've used Noodler's inks in my fine nibbed pens for some time with nary a problem. luck-magnet wrote in message . com... These inks may not be the best for medium and/or fine nibbed pens. I have experienced drying and clogging of both a Waterman and Romet medium, both newer pens. Because the higher concentration of pigment in Noodlers, the stroke-line looks better when used with fine and medium nibs but be prepared for problems. Using the same two Noodler's inks in a broad-nib MB seems to be no problem with it's generous ink-flow but I hesitate to load it into a Pelican since someone complained to me that Noodler's totally ruined his Pelikan and lead to replacement. He didn't say what nib he was using but I heeded his warning. Noodler's inks are so striking in appearance so it is very disappointing. It is certainly an opposite to the more watery Pelican inks so perhaps there is a reason. -T The name's the thing, IMHO. It's a real puzzle how someone using this as a screen name could wind up on a civilized list like one dealing with fountain pens. As a college teacher I hear a lot of that kind of language, and even see it printed on students' T-shirts... but I've never associated it with fountain-pen users! Something weird is going on here. Like others, I've used Noodlers inks extensively and left it in pens that sat unused for weeks. No clogging problems. -- --John Registered Linux User #291592 Delete "no spam"'s from address to reply I explained the "handle" in a previous post, as if I really needed to explain. You're welcome to use it as a diversion from the real issue if you like. It isn't relevant. |
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WARNING: Noodler's Inks
"Chuck Swisher" wrote in message news:5fjeg.205553$5Z.171368@dukeread02... ****-magnet wrote: I haven't used it in my Pelican and I won't. It works fine in my MB. As for the Waterman and Romet, both pens would not flow after sitting nine days. What kind of "proof" do you want? The ink is concentrated and leaves a beautiful mark but I will not use it is any pen that doesn't have a generous flow (namely fine or medium nibs.) You are suggesting that I dilute it. I will draw 5 ml of ink and add 10 drops of dist h2o. I like the midnight blue with the finer medium nib and am willing to try it again. I have a 3 oz bottle and wouldn't want it to go to waste. Besides, after a little effort, both pens did seem to unclog w/o perm damage. I must still emphasize that it is a good idea to remove the ink from such pens if they aren't going to be used for a while. Another collector/dealer advised me that the ink ruined his pen to a point where after he unclogged it, it still never worked right and subsequently he had to replace the nib. If that happened to me, I'd ask the ink mfg to pay for a new nib. If they refused, I'd penalize them by some other gradifying method. I'll post in a few weeks and advise if the dilution helps. Tell you what, ask your friend to send that damaged nib to one of the folks listed on our Vintage Pen Repair page to have it repaired. If they will contact me and confirm that the nib was in fact damaged beyond repair from the use of any Noodler's ink, I will buy your friend a replacement nib for that Pelikan. The only way Noodler's ink could have clogged up a nib and feed to the point where it was impossible to clean is if it were mixed with another ink. Noodler's inks are made from the same materials as the other water based fountain pen inks are made, there is no shellac or anything else in this ink that would gum up a feed to where it couldn't be cleaned with a little water or water mixed with ammonia if allowed to dry out completely in a pen. Here is the link to our Vintage Pen Repair page: http://www.swisherpens.com/repairs.html Let me know if this person is willing to take me up on this offer. He could also send the pen directly to Mr. Tardif (who just happens to know a little about repairs himself) to have that nib looked at. Let me know and I'll give you his address. Best regards, Chuck Swisher - Swisher Pens, Inc. - www.swisherpens.com Tele: (757) 539-2209, TF: 1-888-340-7367, Fax: (757) 925-2787 I'm sure he is a regular in here and has been longer than I. He'll see your generous offer and I need not act as agent. BTW, I want to tell you that your permanent cobalt-blue ink is one of the most beautiful colors I have ever seen and it is impervious to any reasonable assult I can apply, including an overnight soak in water. It drys and does not appear it has even been wet. Bravo! Still I'll never use it in any medium or fine-nibbed instrument (the truth, the whole truth and nothing but.) |
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WARNING: Noodler's Inks
"JP" wrote in message news:Lzjeg.915$f_4.514@trndny03... "~****-magnet~" wrote in message . com... These inks may not be the best for medium and/or fine nibbed pens. I have experienced drying and clogging of both a Waterman and Romet medium, both newer pens. Because the higher concentration of pigment in Noodlers, the stroke-line looks better when used with fine and medium nibs but be prepared for problems. Using the same two Noodler's inks in a broad-nib MB seems to be no problem with it's generous ink-flow but I hesitate to load it into a Pelican since someone complained to me that Noodler's totally ruined his Pelikan and lead to replacement. He didn't say what nib he was using but I heeded his warning. Noodler's inks are so striking in appearance so it is very disappointing. It is certainly an opposite to the more watery Pelican inks so perhaps there is a reason. -T My preference is vintage fine point. Since the mad inkmeister concocted the Noodler blend I've used it exclusively. My Auroras, Quinks, Skrips, Watermans, Pelicans, even my vintage Parkers, (I'm talking black inks) sit unused. While the nib may dry out a after a few weeks it starts writing with a bit of pressure. Never had a clog. I've used it in my Mottishaw enhanced Pelican-no problems. My favorite pen, a 100 year plus waterman eyedropper #12, likewise. Funny to find an anonymous warning about Noodlers in this group after all this time and after all the input a.c.p-p the group provided Nathan during its development. Admittedly I'm a cynical and suspicious New Yorker but I smell an agenda. JP If there is an "agenda," it isn't coming from this end. Good idea, I'm as suspicious as you are about what I read. In the aggregate of it all, how can one not be? |
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WARNING: Noodler's Inks
"phk" wrote in message ... In article , "~****-magnet~" wrote: [snip] ink-flow but I hesitate to load it into a Pelican since someone complained to me that Noodler's totally ruined his Pelikan and lead to replacement. He didn't say what nib he was using but I heeded his [snip] may be i'm lucky. i have been using Noodler in 3 Pelikans without problem. but they're all median nibs. i do agree that they're highly pigmented. & it make changing ink colors quite tedious. (have to more times than other inks) regards, ========== Pam @ Home Cort Furniture Rental and Honesty are two mutually exclusive concepts. I love the heavy pigment. I use a sonic gyrate to clean my pens, a device designed for the jewelry industry. It does take several water changes. |
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