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Plate Number Coil (PNC) with inverted number
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I hope this question is not extremely lame - if it is, please forgive me: I'm really new to PNCs. Anyway, a small collection of PNCs ended up in my hands a few days ago. Upon checking the stamps I noticed that one of them (Scott number 2115) has the plate number ("1") inverted. This variation is not mentioned in the Scott US Specialized 2006 catalog and I have not been able to find anything about it after searching the web. Does anybody know anything about this variation? Is it a common or rare one? Any info will be greatly appreciated. Best regards, Ditman |
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(RCSD) USA - Plate Number Coil (PNC) with inverted number
On Jan 31, 6:09 am, wrote:
Hi, I hope this question is not extremely lame - if it is, please forgive me: I'm really new to PNCs. Anyway, a small collection of PNCs ended up in my hands a few days ago. Upon checking the stamps I noticed that one of them (Scott number 2115) has the plate number ("1") inverted. This variation is not mentioned in the Scott US Specialized 2006 catalog and I have not been able to find anything about it after searching the web. Does anybody know anything about this variation? Is it a common or rare one? Any info will be greatly appreciated. Best regards, Ditman I have not heard of any such inverts on plate numbers. Could you post a hi-resolution scan of the stamp online for us to see? There are a number of free services , such as www.cjoint.com where you can do this. Blair |
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(RCSD) USA - Plate Number Coil (PNC) with inverted number
On Jan 31, 2:27 pm, "Blair (TC)" wrote:
On Jan 31, 6:09 am, wrote: Hi, I hope this question is not extremely lame - if it is, please forgive me: I'm really new to PNCs. Anyway, a small collection of PNCs ended up in my hands a few days ago. Upon checking the stamps I noticed that one of them (Scott number 2115) has the plate number ("1") inverted. This variation is not mentioned in the Scott US Specialized 2006 catalog and I have not been able to find anything about it after searching the web. Does anybody know anything about this variation? Is it a common or rare one? Any info will be greatly appreciated. Best regards, Ditman I have not heard of any such inverts on plate numbers. Could you post a hi-resolution scan of the stamp online for us to see? There are a number of free services , such aswww.cjoint.comwhere you can do this. Blair Yes, I was planning to do this anyway, but did not have the images with me. So, I uploaded a 300 DPI (100 KB) image he http://www.greekrepository.com/inver...erted-0300.jpg and a 1200 DPI (1MB) one he http://www.greekrepository.com/inver...erted-1200.jpg I have already admitted not being particularly educated in PNCs, but have been collecting stamps for 20 years and this is one that drives me crazy! Here is why: "inverted" or "not inverted" can only be used for describing the orientation of an element relative to the picture on the stamp. Accordingly, you only get inverted variations for elements that are printed sperately (on a different step) than the rest of the pictu this is why you have a lot of such errors in overprints, etc. However, AFAIK, plate numbers are fixed on the plate (that's the idea, after all, right?) and they are printed on the same step with the rest of the picture. So, how can the plate number be inverted?!?! Is there any info about the plate numbers being added before or after the printing of the rest of the stamp? Anyway, as stated, any info is welcome |
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(RCSD) USA - Plate Number Coil (PNC) with inverted number
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... On Jan 31, 2:27 pm, "Blair (TC)" wrote: On Jan 31, 6:09 am, wrote: Hi, I hope this question is not extremely lame - if it is, please forgive me: I'm really new to PNCs. Anyway, a small collection of PNCs ended up in my hands a few days ago. Upon checking the stamps I noticed that one of them (Scott number 2115) has the plate number ("1") inverted. This variation is not mentioned in the Scott US Specialized 2006 catalog and I have not been able to find anything about it after searching the web. Does anybody know anything about this variation? Is it a common or rare one? Any info will be greatly appreciated. Best regards, Ditman I have not heard of any such inverts on plate numbers. Could you post a hi-resolution scan of the stamp online for us to see? There are a number of free services , such aswww.cjoint.comwhere you can do this. Blair Yes, I was planning to do this anyway, but did not have the images with me. So, I uploaded a 300 DPI (100 KB) image he http://www.greekrepository.com/inver...erted-0300.jpg and a 1200 DPI (1MB) one he http://www.greekrepository.com/inver...erted-1200.jpg I have already admitted not being particularly educated in PNCs, but have been collecting stamps for 20 years and this is one that drives me crazy! Here is why: "inverted" or "not inverted" can only be used for describing the orientation of an element relative to the picture on the stamp. Accordingly, you only get inverted variations for elements that are printed sperately (on a different step) than the rest of the pictu this is why you have a lot of such errors in overprints, etc. However, AFAIK, plate numbers are fixed on the plate (that's the idea, after all, right?) and they are printed on the same step with the rest of the picture. So, how can the plate number be inverted?!?! Is there any info about the plate numbers being added before or after the printing of the rest of the stamp? Anyway, as stated, any info is welcome I believe that's a T not a 1 - I seem to recall this as a plate # for some coils. Scott |
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(RCSD) USA - Plate Number Coil (PNC) with inverted number
Scott wrote:
wrote in message ... On Jan 31, 2:27 pm, "Blair (TC)" wrote: On Jan 31, 6:09 am, wrote: Hi, I hope this question is not extremely lame - if it is, please forgive me: I'm really new to PNCs. Anyway, a small collection of PNCs ended up in my hands a few days ago. Upon checking the stamps I noticed that one of them (Scott number 2115) has the plate number ("1") inverted. This variation is not mentioned in the Scott US Specialized 2006 catalog and I have not been able to find anything about it after searching the web. Does anybody know anything about this variation? Is it a common or rare one? Any info will be greatly appreciated. Best regards, Ditman I have not heard of any such inverts on plate numbers. Could you post a hi-resolution scan of the stamp online for us to see? There are a number of free services , such aswww.cjoint.comwhere you can do this. Blair Yes, I was planning to do this anyway, but did not have the images with me. So, I uploaded a 300 DPI (100 KB) image he http://www.greekrepository.com/inver...erted-0300.jpg and a 1200 DPI (1MB) one he http://www.greekrepository.com/inver...erted-1200.jpg I have already admitted not being particularly educated in PNCs, but have been collecting stamps for 20 years and this is one that drives me crazy! Here is why: "inverted" or "not inverted" can only be used for describing the orientation of an element relative to the picture on the stamp. Accordingly, you only get inverted variations for elements that are printed sperately (on a different step) than the rest of the pictu this is why you have a lot of such errors in overprints, etc. However, AFAIK, plate numbers are fixed on the plate (that's the idea, after all, right?) and they are printed on the same step with the rest of the picture. So, how can the plate number be inverted?!?! Is there any info about the plate numbers being added before or after the printing of the rest of the stamp? Anyway, as stated, any info is welcome I believe that's a T not a 1 - I seem to recall this as a plate # for some coils. Scott Indeed. If is was an inverted 1 then the 'serif' is also pointing in the wrong direction. So, if is a 1, it is not only inverted but also vertically mirrored. Although I am not an expert on American Coil stamps, I think the T is more acceptable. Sorry. Sir Hystrix |
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(RCSD) USA - Plate Number Coil (PNC) with inverted number
"Sir Hystrix" wrote in message ... Scott wrote: wrote in message ... On Jan 31, 2:27 pm, "Blair (TC)" wrote: On Jan 31, 6:09 am, wrote: Hi, I hope this question is not extremely lame - if it is, please forgive me: I'm really new to PNCs. Anyway, a small collection of PNCs ended up in my hands a few days ago. Upon checking the stamps I noticed that one of them (Scott number 2115) has the plate number ("1") inverted. This variation is not mentioned in the Scott US Specialized 2006 catalog and I have not been able to find anything about it after searching the web. Does anybody know anything about this variation? Is it a common or rare one? Any info will be greatly appreciated. Best regards, Ditman I have not heard of any such inverts on plate numbers. Could you post a hi-resolution scan of the stamp online for us to see? There are a number of free services , such aswww.cjoint.comwhere you can do this. Blair Yes, I was planning to do this anyway, but did not have the images with me. So, I uploaded a 300 DPI (100 KB) image he http://www.greekrepository.com/inver...erted-0300.jpg and a 1200 DPI (1MB) one he http://www.greekrepository.com/inver...erted-1200.jpg I have already admitted not being particularly educated in PNCs, but have been collecting stamps for 20 years and this is one that drives me crazy! Here is why: "inverted" or "not inverted" can only be used for describing the orientation of an element relative to the picture on the stamp. Accordingly, you only get inverted variations for elements that are printed sperately (on a different step) than the rest of the pictu this is why you have a lot of such errors in overprints, etc. However, AFAIK, plate numbers are fixed on the plate (that's the idea, after all, right?) and they are printed on the same step with the rest of the picture. So, how can the plate number be inverted?!?! Is there any info about the plate numbers being added before or after the printing of the rest of the stamp? Anyway, as stated, any info is welcome I believe that's a T not a 1 - I seem to recall this as a plate # for some coils. Scott Indeed. If is was an inverted 1 then the 'serif' is also pointing in the wrong direction. So, if is a 1, it is not only inverted but also vertically mirrored. Although I am not an expert on American Coil stamps, I think the T is more acceptable. Sorry. Sir Hystrix It's Scott #2115b - the T is for Test coil, here's one on ebay lot 300144208365. Scott |
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(RCSD) USA - Plate Number Coil (PNC) with inverted number
On Jan 31, 9:51 am, wrote:
On Jan 31, 2:27 pm, "Blair (TC)" wrote: On Jan 31, 6:09 am, wrote: Hi, I hope this question is not extremely lame - if it is, please forgive me: I'm really new to PNCs. Anyway, a small collection of PNCs ended up in my hands a few days ago. Upon checking the stamps I noticed that one of them (Scott number 2115) has the plate number ("1") inverted. This variation is not mentioned in the Scott US Specialized 2006 catalog and I have not been able to find anything about it after searching the web. Does anybody know anything about this variation? Is it a common or rare one? Any info will be greatly appreciated. Best regards, Ditman I have not heard of any such inverts on plate numbers. Could you post a hi-resolution scan of the stamp online for us to see? There are a number of free services , such aswww.cjoint.comwhere you can do this. Blair Yes, I was planning to do this anyway, but did not have the images with me. So, I uploaded a 300 DPI (100 KB) image hehttp://www.greekrepository.com/inver...erted-0300.jpg and a 1200 DPI (1MB) one hehttp://www.greekrepository.com/inver...erted-1200.jpg I have already admitted not being particularly educated in PNCs, but have been collecting stamps for 20 years and this is one that drives me crazy! Here is why: "inverted" or "not inverted" can only be used for describing the orientation of an element relative to the picture on the stamp. Accordingly, you only get inverted variations for elements that are printed sperately (on a different step) than the rest of the pictu this is why you have a lot of such errors in overprints, etc. However, AFAIK, plate numbers are fixed on the plate (that's the idea, after all, right?) and they are printed on the same step with the rest of the picture. So, how can the plate number be inverted?!?! Is there any info about the plate numbers being added before or after the printing of the rest of the stamp? Anyway, as stated, any info is welcome Your #2115 seems to have more violet a colour than other #2115 s that I have seen. http://rsb.riche.net/apnc/uspnc2115p7.jpg (plate 7) http://rsb.riche.net/apnc/uspnc2115p1.jpg (plate 1) http://www.malack.com/auct/n5098.jpg (more plate 1) Could yours be from a test print (plate T ?) Blair |
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(RCSD) USA - Plate Number Coil (PNC) with inverted number
On Jan 31, 9:51*am, wrote:
On Jan 31, 2:27 pm, "Blair (TC)" wrote: On Jan 31, 6:09 am, wrote: Hi, I hope this question is not extremely lame - if it is, please forgive me: I'm really new to PNCs. Anyway, a small collection of PNCs ended up in my hands a few days ago. Upon checking the stamps I noticed that one of them (Scott number 2115) has the plate number ("1") inverted. This variation is not mentioned in the Scott US Specialized 2006 catalog and I have not been able to find anything about it after searching the web. Does anybody know anything about this variation? Is it a common or rare one? Any info will be greatly appreciated. Best regards, Ditman I have not heard of any such inverts on plate numbers. Could you post a hi-resolution scan of the stamp online for us to see? There are a number of free services , such aswww.cjoint.comwhere you can do this. Blair Yes, I was planning to do this anyway, but did not have the images with me. So, I uploaded a 300 DPI (100 KB) image hehttp://www.greekrepository.com/inver...erted-0300.jpg and a 1200 DPI (1MB) one hehttp://www.greekrepository.com/inver...erted-1200.jpg I have already admitted not being particularly educated in PNCs, but have been collecting stamps for 20 years and this is one that drives me crazy! Here is why: "inverted" or "not inverted" can only be used for describing the orientation of an element relative to the picture on the stamp. Accordingly, you only get inverted variations for elements that are printed sperately (on a different step) than the rest of the pictu this is why you have a lot of such errors in overprints, etc. However, AFAIK, plate numbers are fixed on the plate (that's the idea, after all, right?) and they are printed on the same step with the rest of the picture. So, how can the plate number be inverted?!?! Is there any info about the plate numbers being added before or after the printing of the rest of the stamp? Anyway, as stated, any info is welcome HI The "T" inscribed at the bottom of scott 2115 is listed as scott 2115c issued may 23, 1987. Art |
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