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...emission of the same variety, was in all likelihood minted to build up
the Hellenic navy in preparation for the anticipated Persian invasion, which would take place in 480 BC and which would determine the subsequent course of Western history. The Greeks defeated the Persian fleet at Salamis in a battle that has been called the "supreme confrontation between East and West," between despotism and individual freedoms (Hanson). I remember a bit about this from Classics. I bet it's nice to have some archaeological artefact that could have witnessed these events at first hand in your possession! Afterward, the Greeks for the first time formed a formal allegiance of the various Greek city-states (the Delian League) and were able to continue their unprecedented experimentation with individualism and democracy. This ushered in the golden age of ancient Greece, the thinking of men such as Socrates, Plato, and Aristotle, and the genesis of Western science, philosophy, and civilization. And i vaguely remember a mention of the Delian League too! The triumph of Democracy... and three great philosopher's in a row. Great write up, coinwise looks like you got a good un! Sylvester. Specialising in sixpences 1674-1694 and King Stephen pennies 1135-1154. |
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Reid wrote:
"You and Anka have evolved into conjoined twins. You both would rather be sarcastic and snipe away than actually contribute something useful to the conversation." ahem Correction... I was being sarcastic. And if I know Michael, he was dead serious. Anka ---- looking forward to an article on Athenian owls ;-) |
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Your story was a fantastic read. I thoroughly enjoyed it. Thanks for
taking the time to share... My latest purchase: http://www.cngcoins.com/coin.asp?ITE...TEM_ENLARGED=1 -DrZ I like that king James Coin! i keep meaning to buy some hammered gold one day, but i'm afraid these keep getting in the way... http://www.historyincoins.com/xxx-15-3-4-3.jpg Soon to be mine... my precious! Sylvester. Specialising in Sixpences 1674-1694 and King Stephen pennies 1135-54. |
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Now, now... a little Christian caritas required you to allow him to
make sure that it was not James II, just in case... I agree that it is easy to assume that he did not have a clue until he googled it, but patience means suffering, which we all do gladly to save the lost. Hammered coins ceased to be produced in 1662, and milled coins finally took over. James II reigned 1685-1688 so all his coins would thus be milled, so Reid was right. Talking of James II, his gold coins look a little more like this... http://www.tclayton.demon.co.uk/pics/hsov.html Sylvester. Specialising in Sixpences 1674-1694 and King Stephen pennies 1135-54. |
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I mentioned something I read about James I after what I characterized
as a "quick search." Maybe what I posted was wrong. I don't know the history of England during the 16/17th centuries well at all. Instead of sarcasm and sniping, a much more constructive approach would be to provide correct information, if indeed what I posted was incorrect. I think it's safe to say you were correct on your English history posts there. Sylvester. Specialising in Sixpences 1674-1694, King Stephen pennies and from this very minute James II half guineas 1686-1688. |
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Sylvester I like the link to the Edward VII coin especially the reverse
of the coin with the slaying of the dragon, totally cool! Ed |
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On 19 Mar 2004 10:42:11 -0800, (The Silver
Jar...) wrote: I think it's safe to say you were correct on your English history posts there. Good to know! I'd have no hesitation to admit a mistake here if I made one. This is as I said not an area I'm involved with or know much about otherwise, though from the look of this coin and from the very brief reading about James I that I did, I can see how you'd find the area and the period appealing. -- Email: (delete "remove this") Coin Collecting: Consumer Protection Guide: http://rg.ancients.info/guide Glomming: Coin Connoisseurship: http://rg.ancients.info/glom Bogos: Counterfeit Coins: http://rg.ancients.info/bogos |
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On 19 Mar 2004 10:27:14 -0800, (The Silver
Jar...) wrote: ...emission of the same variety, was in all likelihood minted to build up the Hellenic navy in preparation for the anticipated Persian invasion, which would take place in 480 BC and which would determine the subsequent course of Western history. The Greeks defeated the Persian fleet at Salamis in a battle that has been called the "supreme confrontation between East and West," between despotism and individual freedoms (Hanson). I remember a bit about this from Classics. I bet it's nice to have some archaeological artefact that could have witnessed these events at first hand in your possession! Yep. History in your hand. g The quote that the Battle of Salamis between the Greeks and the Persians was the "supreme confrontation between East and West," between despotism and individual freedoms, came from Victor David Hanson. I don't know if this was one of the "six major errors" Michael Marotta was referring to or not, since he characteristically wasn't clear. I also don't know if I completely agree with Hanson here, though I'd have to say I agree for the most part, granting him, perhaps, a little hyperbole. Hanson teaches classics at California State University at Fresno and is the author of a number of books on this and related subjects, including Who Killed Homer?, The Other Greeks, and The Western Way of War, though I'm not one to hold up credentials as irrefutable authority. It was -- the battle that my coin was minted for -- one of the epochal moments in history. -- Email: (delete "remove this") Coin Collecting: Consumer Protection Guide: http://rg.ancients.info/guide Glomming: Coin Connoisseurship: http://rg.ancients.info/glom Bogos: Counterfeit Coins: http://rg.ancients.info/bogos |
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Dave Parrish will like it, a lot. Billy
Reid Goldsborough wrote: On Tue, 16 Mar 2004 17:32:24 -0500, "DoctorZ" wrote: Your story was a fantastic read. I thoroughly enjoyed it. Thanks for taking the time to share... My latest purchase: http://www.cngcoins.com/coin.asp?ITE...TEM_ENLARGED=1 I'm tempted to say something nice about your new purchase because of your nice words to me. But I have to be honest here. Your coin is spectacular, and I'm not saying that just to be nice. g Really. Even though these coins aren't my area, here's what I like about it: 1) It's gold, and it gold has a timeless allure. 2) It's beautifully toned for a gold coin, with the darker recesses nicely accentuating the coin's age. 3) It's big, very big, for a gold coin, at 39 mm, and though undoubtedly thin at 8.65 grams, the thinness doesn't strike me as detracting from the coin's dimensional impressiveness. 4) Its style is very cool, very kingly, very royal, both obverse and reverse. 5) There are no unaesthetic indications of it's being ex-jewelry, and though I don't know the market for these coins, as ex-jewelry, you undoubtedly got a deal on it. 6) As a VF, all of the design elements are present, and the coin's moderate wear also doesn't detract from the impressiveness of the design. 7) The history is very cool -- a quick search indicates that James I was the guy who sponsored the King James Bible -- it's named after him -- and James I had some interesting ideas about the divine rights of kings. Congrats on your purchase. Can I have it? -- Email: (delete "remove this") Coin Collecting: Consumer Protection Guide: http://rg.ancients.info/guide Glomming: Coin Connoisseurship: http://rg.ancients.info/glom Bogos: Counterfeit Coins: http://rg.ancients.info/bogos |
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