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Old January 21st 08, 01:57 PM posted to rec.collecting.stamps.discuss
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Here in the USA you mail a ordinary letter and USPS requires 41 cents
postage...however, if you slip a piece of cardboard in to prevent
folding USPS requires an additional 17 cents postage.
I think the 17 cent stamp should be called Cardboard Postage...:-)\

Ralphael, the OLD one
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Old January 21st 08, 08:05 PM posted to rec.collecting.stamps.discuss
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On Jan 21, 6:57 am, Ralphael1 wrote:
Here in the USA you mail a ordinary letter and USPS requires 41 cents
postage...however, if you slip a piece of cardboard in to prevent
folding USPS requires an additional 17 cents postage.
I think the 17 cent stamp should be called Cardboard Postage...:-)\

Ralphael, the OLD one


There was just a big discussion about this.
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.c...db416f5b2ca066

It is not whether it has cardboard but if it is rigid or uneven. 2
thicknesses of cardboard equivalent to the cardboard in a new shirt or
Priority, Fedex, UPS envelope cardboard or one thickness of the
cardboard used by the USPS to package souvenir sheets or the cardboard
that separates the individual jellies in the case at the local greasy
spoon all qualify according to my Postal clerks as NOT rigid because
they can hold the letter over the edge of the counter and gently bend
it. Rigid is defined as unbending and unmachine-able. Lumpy letters
are unmachine-able. Letters over one quarter of an inch are unmachine-
able. There is only a surcharge for letters that potentially won't
negotiate through the letter machinery. Thin cardboard, apparently,
that is not rigid and is not lumpy and is not too thick is machine-
able, it does go through the machines. Then it is up to the
individual clerk to decide if it goes as is or gets surcharged. If
there is a head clerk, that might be the person to put the question to
and he can then inform the others just what that rule applies to but
at my PO it seems unanimous that the rule refers to absolute rigid
letters.

Regards,
TL
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Old January 21st 08, 09:44 PM posted to rec.collecting.stamps.discuss
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On Mon, 21 Jan 2008 05:57:43 -0800 (PST), Ralphael1
wrote:

Here in the USA you mail a ordinary letter and USPS requires 41 cents
postage...however, if you slip a piece of cardboard in to prevent
folding USPS requires an additional 17 cents postage.
I think the 17 cent stamp should be called Cardboard Postage...:-)\


I don't know what cardboard or post office you use, but I've been
using file folders to wrap stamps for years without any extra charge,
but in Albany and Keeseville, unless they are more than 1/4" deep.
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Old January 21st 08, 09:46 PM posted to rec.collecting.stamps.discuss
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On Mon, 21 Jan 2008 12:05:13 -0800 (PST), TL
wrote:

On Jan 21, 6:57 am, Ralphael1 wrote:
Here in the USA you mail a ordinary letter and USPS requires 41 cents
postage...however, if you slip a piece of cardboard in to prevent
folding USPS requires an additional 17 cents postage.
I think the 17 cent stamp should be called Cardboard Postage...:-)\

Ralphael, the OLD one


There was just a big discussion about this.
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.c...db416f5b2ca066

It is not whether it has cardboard but if it is rigid or uneven. 2
thicknesses of cardboard equivalent to the cardboard in a new shirt or
Priority, Fedex, UPS envelope cardboard or one thickness of the
cardboard used by the USPS to package souvenir sheets or the cardboard
that separates the individual jellies in the case at the local greasy
spoon all qualify according to my Postal clerks as NOT rigid because
they can hold the letter over the edge of the counter and gently bend
it. Rigid is defined as unbending and unmachine-able. Lumpy letters
are unmachine-able. Letters over one quarter of an inch are unmachine-
able. There is only a surcharge for letters that potentially won't
negotiate through the letter machinery. Thin cardboard, apparently,
that is not rigid and is not lumpy and is not too thick is machine-
able, it does go through the machines.


Bingo!

Then it is up to the
individual clerk to decide if it goes as is or gets surcharged. If
there is a head clerk, that might be the person to put the question to
and he can then inform the others just what that rule applies to but
at my PO it seems unanimous that the rule refers to absolute rigid
letters.

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Old January 22nd 08, 04:11 AM posted to rec.collecting.stamps.discuss
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On Mon, 21 Jan 2008 14:22:26 -0800, Sir F. A. Rien
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found these unused words:

On Mon, 21 Jan 2008 05:57:43 -0800 (PST), Ralphael1
wrote:

Here in the USA you mail a ordinary letter and USPS requires 41 cents
postage...however, if you slip a piece of cardboard in to prevent
folding USPS requires an additional 17 cents postage.
I think the 17 cent stamp should be called Cardboard Postage...:-)\


I don't know what cardboard or post office you use, but I've been
using file folders to wrap stamps for years without any extra charge,
but in Albany and Keeseville, unless they are more than 1/4" deep.


For years it was OK, then suddenly this past Summer ... Surcharge City!
Next, we'll have to apply the bar code or get SURCHARGED !!!


I'm still doing it, without getting any extra charge. Once in a
while, the stamps bunch up into a pile and make the letter deeper than
1/4", but not that often.

I use conventional file folders, which I cut into 3 parts, each of
which fit conveniently into #10 envelopes. So, the left hand side is
the fold and there's a piece of folder behind the glassine and one in
front of it.

I don't use cereal box "weight" nor anything close to that thick.
Maybe I should simply count my blessings (and pennies saved) and carry
on...
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Old January 22nd 08, 09:18 PM posted to rec.collecting.stamps.discuss
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On Jan 21, 4:44*pm, wrote:
On Mon, 21 Jan 2008 05:57:43 -0800 (PST), Ralphael1
wrote:

Here in the USA you mail a ordinary letter and USPS requires 41 cents
postage...however, if you slip a piece of cardboard in to prevent
folding USPS requires an additional 17 cents postage.
I think the 17 cent stamp should be called Cardboard Postage...:-)\


I don't know what cardboard or post office you use, but I've been
using file folders to wrap stamps for years without any extra charge,
but in Albany and Keeseville, unless they are more than 1/4" deep.



Lets just say mine is more rigid that yours, or stiff if you
prefer...:-)

RtOo
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Old January 22nd 08, 10:18 PM posted to rec.collecting.stamps.discuss
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"Ralphael1"
Lets just say mine is more rigid that yours, or stiff if you
prefer...:-)
RtOo

If we are discussing opinions here, I'd have to agree.



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Old January 23rd 08, 03:05 AM posted to rec.collecting.stamps.discuss
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On Tue, 22 Jan 2008 13:18:21 -0800 (PST), Ralphael1
wrote:

On Jan 21, 4:44*pm, wrote:
On Mon, 21 Jan 2008 05:57:43 -0800 (PST), Ralphael1
wrote:

Here in the USA you mail a ordinary letter and USPS requires 41 cents
postage...however, if you slip a piece of cardboard in to prevent
folding USPS requires an additional 17 cents postage.
I think the 17 cent stamp should be called Cardboard Postage...:-)\


I don't know what cardboard or post office you use, but I've been
using file folders to wrap stamps for years without any extra charge,
but in Albany and Keeseville, unless they are more than 1/4" deep.



Lets just say mine is more rigid that yours, or stiff if you
prefer...:-)


OK, Mr. Viagra... Niagara... whatever!
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Old January 23rd 08, 03:06 AM posted to rec.collecting.stamps.discuss
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On Wed, 23 Jan 2008 07:18:27 +0900, "rodney"
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"Ralphael1"
Lets just say mine is more rigid that yours, or stiff if you
prefer...:-)
RtOo

If we are discussing opinions here, I'd have to agree.


He is getting pretty stiff, that is sure. But, I digress!
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Old January 23rd 08, 09:22 PM posted to rec.collecting.stamps.discuss
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Just think, though, if the non-machinable surcharge were to be raised
$1, you could save money by using Bhutan Scott #1099 and insist that
you're using legitimate Cardboard Postage!

(Sorry, this silly American just has Scott.... Anyone want to
translate the joke to Gibbons? :-)

- Joshua McGee
http://www.mcgees.org

On Jan 21, 5:57 am, Ralphael1 wrote:
Here in the USA you mail a ordinary letter and USPS requires 41 cents
postage...however, if you slip a piece of cardboard in to prevent
folding USPS requires an additional 17 cents postage.
I think the 17 cent stamp should be called Cardboard Postage...:-)\

Ralphael, the OLD one


 




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