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Old August 16th 06, 12:03 PM posted to alt.collecting.8-track-tapes
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Old August 16th 06, 03:00 PM posted to alt.collecting.8-track-tapes
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On 16 Aug 2006 04:03:23 -0700, "The Self-Punisher"
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http://www.jbp-pontiac.com/carOfMonth.htm snip


Number of US Pontiacs in Europe: A handful, at best
Number of Honda products: Millions
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Old August 16th 06, 11:08 PM posted to alt.collecting.8-track-tapes
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DeserTBoB wrote:
On 16 Aug 2006 04:03:23 -0700, "The Self-Punisher"
wrote:

http://www.jbp-pontiac.com/carOfMonth.htm snip


Number of US Pontiacs in Europe: A handful, at best
Number of Honda products: Millions



number of GM plants and products in Europe- millions

GM also owns Saab and Opel

GM- ruling the automotive world with an iron fist- capitulate, or be
bought out

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Old August 16th 06, 11:09 PM posted to alt.collecting.8-track-tapes
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DeserTBoB wrote:
On 16 Aug 2006 04:03:23 -0700, "The Self-Punisher"
wrote:

http://www.jbp-pontiac.com/carOfMonth.htm snip


Number of US Pontiacs in Europe: A handful, at best
Number of Honda products: Millions


http://www.gm.com/company/corp_info/...gmhis1980.html

GM announces that it will spend $40 billion from 1980 through 1984 in a
worldwide program to redesign its vehicles and modernize its assembly
plants.
GM establishes the new position of Vice President of Quality and
Reliability.

GM's worldwide TEREX earthmoving operations are sold to IBH Holding
AG of the Federal Republic of Germany.

GM announces plans to build five new plants in Europe to manufacture
automotive components -- three in Spain, one in Austria and one in
Northern Ireland.

With the US economy and industry in recession, GM suffers its first
corporate financial loss since 1920.




Diesel Equipment Division is consolidated with Rochester Products
Division.
GM's new worldwide Truck & Bus Group is formed with responsibility
for the design, engineering, manufacture, sales and service of all GM
trucks, buses and vans in North America and throughout the world. In
1982, the truck manufacturing and assembly operations of GM Assembly
Division, Chevrolet Motor Division, and GMC Truck and Coach Division
are merged to form Truck & Bus Manufacturing Division. Headquarters for
both are to be located in Pontiac, Michigan.

Delco Air Conditioning Division is merged with Harrison Radiator
Division.

GM and Suzuki Motor Company, Ltd., the world's largest manufacturer
of mini-compact vehicles, announce an agreement to develop future
supply and distribution arrangements. The agreement provides that GM
purchase 14 million shares (approximately a five percent interest) in
Suzuki.

New Departure Hyatt Bearings Division's Clark, N.J. plant is sold to
the new employee-owned Hyatt Clark Industries.

AC Delco Division and GM Parts Division are consolidated into the new
GM Warehousing & Distribution Division.

GM enters a joint venture in Taiwan to build heavy duty trucks, buses
and diesel engines when it purchases a 45 percent holding in Hua Tung
Automotive Corp. In 1982, GM withdraws from the joint venture and sells
its 45 percent equity interest. In 1989, GM establishes General Motors
Taiwan, Ltd., a wholly-owned subsidiary, to import and distribute North
American and Saturn vehicles, and to import, assemble and distribute
Opel vehicles.

The UAW begins talks with Ford, Chrysler and GM as recession continues
in the US and imports gain market share at the Big Three's expense.
GM begins to suffer more market share loss than Ford and Chrysler.




GM and the UAW sign a new labor agreement that emphasizes joint
training, profit-sharing, and improvements in competitiveness, quality
of work life and job security provisions, including the Guaranteed
Income Stream.

GM opens its newest European assembly plant near Zaragoza, Spain. To
date, this is the largest expansion project outside the U.S. ever
undertaken by the corporation. The plant produces the front-wheel-drive
Opel Corsa, the smallest car yet produced by GM.

GM and Fanuc Ltd. of Japan form GMFanuc (GMF) Robotics Corporation, a
U.S.-based joint venture to design, manufacture and sell robotics
systems.
General Motors Institute (GMI) is renamed GMI Engineering and
Management Institute and is rechartered as an independent educational
institution, separate from General Motors. It is later renamed
Kettering University in 1997.

GM's Engineering and Manufacturing Staffs are restructured as the
Advanced Product and Manufacturing Engineering Staff and Current
Engineering and Manufacturing Services Staff.


GM's World of Motion Exhibit opens in Epcot Center at Walt Disney
World in Lake Buena Vista, Fla. Before the year is out, the one
millionth visitor to the exhibit is recorded.



GM signs an agreement forming Industries Mecaniques Maghebines, a joint
venture which will produce commercial vans and light-duty trucks at an
assembly plant in Kairouan, Tunisia, about 100 miles south of Tunis.
The joint venture is with Isuzu and Tunisian private investors.



GM and Toyota Motor Corporation agree to form a joint venture, New
United Motor Manufacturing, Inc. (NUMMI), to produce a small Chevrolet
automobile in the Fremont, Calif., assembly plant previously operated
by GM.
GM and the UAW launch the "Care and Share" fund donation program, which
nets more than $13 million worth of canned food for America's needy.
The effort is the largest and most comprehensive food donation program
ever conducted by private enterprise.

GM and Isuzu Motors Ltd. form a joint venture to produce light-duty and
medium duty trucks and bus chassis at a manufacturing operation near
Cairo, Egypt.

Buick Motor Division announces plans to consolidate its car assembly
operations in Flint with Fisher Body Division's metal fabricating and
body assembly facilities. The $200 million project is dubbed "Buick
City".

Detroit Diesel Allison Division's gas turbine business is separated
to form Allison Gas Turbine Division.

GM observes its 75th anniversary (Sept. 16). More than 235 million
vehicles worldwide have been produced since its incorporation in 1908.


The 1984 Chevrolet Corvette is introduced, with the car's first
major styling change in 15 years.

The UAW and GM announce a comprehensive retraining and training program
to serve some 9,300 laid off UAW-GM workers in Flint. The project
includes the establishment of a Regional Skills Development and
Training Center.
GM announces its Saturn Project -- a "no-year" developmental program
for a new family of subcompact cars it plans to produce in the U.S.,
using start-to-finish innovation. The UAW and GM unveil plans for a
Joint Study Center aimed at achieving an unprecedented union-management
partnership in the Saturn Project. In 1985, Saturn Corporation is
created as a separate subsidiary, adding a sixth nameplate to GM's
North American passenger car marques.

MAGNEQUENCH, a new class of high-performance permanent magnets which
can substantially reduce the size and weight of electric motors, it
announced. It is to have its first application in a new Delco Remy
cranking motor.




A new organizational structure for GM's North American Passenger Car
Operations is formed. Two integrated car groups, Chevrolet, Pontiac, GM
of Canada (C-P-C) and Buick, Oldsmobile, Cadillac (B-O-C), each have
complete responsibility for their respective products, including
engineering, manufacturing, assembly and marketing.

The world's first electrically driven fuel-saving, integral power
brake system for cars and light trucks, called Powermaster, is unveiled
by Delco Moraine Division.

GM acquires Electronic Data Systems Corporation (EDS), one of the
leading data processing and telecommunications companies in the world.




Some 531,000 U.S. employees receive the first payout from GM's Profit
Sharing Plans. $322.2 million is distributed.
GM and the UAW sign a new three-year labor agreement that provides
unprecedented job and income security for employees.


The new Opel Kadett and Vauxhall Nova are named Europe's "Car of the
Year -- 1985" by jury of leading European motor journalists.



The General Motors Building in Detroit is named a National Historic
Landmark.
General Motors acquires Hughes Aircraft Company, regarded as one of the
leading defense electronics firms in the world. It is to remain
independently managed as a subsidiary of GM Hughes Electronics
Corporation (GMHE) -- a new wholly owned subsidiary of General Motors.
Delco Electronics Corporation becomes a subsidiary of GMHE.

Etak, Inc. of Sunnyvale, Calif. gives GM exclusive rights to use
Etak's technology in the manufacture of Navigational systems in cars
and trucks in the United States and Canada.




General Motors acquires Group Lotus, the U.K.- based engineering
consulting and performance car manufacturing firm. In 1993, GM sells
Group Lotus and Lotus Cars USA to Bugatti International SAH of Italy.
GM Europe is established to coordinate and organize GM's expanding
passenger car business in Europe. Headquarters is located in Zurich,
Switzerland.

GM withdraws from South Africa, selling its operations to a group
headed by local management under the name Delta Motor Corporation.

GM and Seattle Silicon sign a multi-year R&D and licensing agreement
for Very Large Scale Integration (super chip) technology.

Delco Moraine Division and Akebono Brake Industry of Japan form a joint
venture to produce brake assemblies at Elizabethtown, Ky., beginning in
1987.

GM and Volvo form a joint venture in the U.S. to develop, produce, and
market heavy-duty trucks for North America. Volvo is given operational
responsibility for the Volvo GM Heavy Truck Corporation.


General Motors of Canada and Suzuki announce a joint venture, CAMI,
to manufacture small cars and sport utility vehicles in Canada.

General Motors-Holden's Limited reorganizes into two new GM
subsidiaries, Holden's Engine and Components Company and Holden's
Motor Company.
Service Parts Operations is reorganized in the U.S. to strengthen
GM's competitive position in the automotive aftermarket sales
business. The reorganization eliminates the GM Warehousing &
Distribution Division as a separate unit.

GM confirms plans to close 11 U.S. assembly and metal fabricating
operations that became redundant as a result of the plant modernization
process begun in the late 1970s.

UAW-GM Human Resource Center in Auburn Hills, Michigan opens.




Greyhound Corporation announces intent to purchase GM's transit bus
business.
A new six-year, 60,000 mile powertrain warranty, with six-year, 100,000
mile corrosion protection, is introduced for most GM North American
cars and trucks.

GM establishes a new headquarters office for Latin American Operations
in Miami Lakes, Florida.

Oldsmobile begins production of the Quad 4 engine at its Delta Township
plant near Lansing, Michigan.

The Automotive Components Group is formed, consisting of component
divisions realigned into the Chassis and Transmission Components Group
and the Body and Engine Components Group.

Detroit Diesel Allison and Penske Corporation of Red Bank, N.J., form a
joint venture company, Detroit Diesel Corporation, for the design,
manufacture, and marketing of diesel engines.


GM Sunraycer, designed and built by team of GM, Hughes Aircraft and
AeroVironment, Inc., wins the 1,950-mile inaugural World Solar
Challenge Race across Australia, finishing 2-1/2 days ahead of
runner-up.



GM and Toyota announce plans to establish joint venture in Australia to
coordinate design, engineering and product sharing strategies. It is to
include assets from GM's Holden's Motor Co., Ltd. and Toyota's
Australian operations. The joint venture, United Australian Automotive
Industries, is established in 1988 and dissolved in 1996.



GM introduces its "GM10" family of newly redesigned midsize cars --
the Buick Regal, Oldsmobile Cutlass Supreme, and Pontiac Grand Prix.
Allison Transmission Division is created with design, manufacturing,
and sales responsibilities for all medium and heavy- duty automatic
transmissions within General Motors.

GM hosts the largest-ever single showing of GM technology at the
"Teamwork & Technology--For Today and Tomorrow" exhibition held at the
Waldorf-Astoria Hotel in New York.

GM spends a record $1.1 billion with minority-owned and operated
suppliers in the United States during 1988.

AC Spark Plug and Rochester Products Divisions are consolidated into AC
Rochester Division.

GMAC introduces a new corporation-wide GM consumer leasing program
called "SmartLease by GMAC" to respond to growing market in retail
leasing of vehicles for personal transportation.

GM produces its last heavy-duty truck in Pontiac, Michigan, completing
phase-out of heavy truck business following its joint-venture with
Volvo-White.


Chevrolet introduces its Geo line of small vehicles with Geo Metro,
Spectrum and Tracker.

Two GM assembly plants in Europe adopt innovative steps to raise
productivity. GM Continental in Belgium merges the workforce of its two
plants into one and operates two ten-hour shifts on five days and one
on Saturday, with three crews each working four days a week. GM Espana
in Spain adds a night shift and produces cars on three shifts.

GM Europe launches the all new Opel Vectra and Vauxhall Cavalier and
introduces its first 4x4 powertrain.



Four-door sedan versions of the "GM 10" Pontiac Grand Prix and
Oldsmobile Cutlass Supreme are introduced.

The Pontiac Trans Sport and Oldsmobile Silhouette all-purpose
vehicles debut. These models feature the largest plastic panels ever
put on any vehicle.

GM offers its driver-side Supplemental Inflatable Restraint System on
15 passenger cars for the 1990 model year - standard equipment on 13
vehicles and an option on two others.
Electro-Motive Division introduces the first U.S.-built and operated
diesel-electric locomotive to use alternating current (AC) technology.

GM Espana's Zaragoza plant, which opened in 1982 to produce Opel
Corsa/Vauxhall Nova models, builds its two millionth car.

Delco Products, Fisher Guide and Inland Divisions are realigned and
consolidated into two units with Delco and Fisher Guide absorbing
strategic business units of Inland. Fisher Guide becomes Inland Fisher
Guide Division.

Delco Moraine, New Departure Hyatt, and Saginaw Divisions are realigned
and consolidated into two units. The strategic business units of New
Departure (NDH) are absorbed by Delco and Saginaw. Delco is renamed
Delco Moraine NHD Division.

GM begins operations in Turkey. Two plants produce interior trim and
electric wiring components for export to Opel and sale to other auto
manufacturers, and an assembly plant is established in Torbali to build
Opel Vectras for the Turkish market.

Opel is recognized as the European leader in environmentally "clean
cars" and becomes the first volume producer to make closed-loop
catalytic converter systems standard on all gasoline-engine models in
Germany. Throughout Europe, Opel offers the widest model and engine
range of low emission cars.

GM and other automakers join major oil companies in joint venture to
develop formulated fuels to reduce vehicle emissions.


GM purchases 50 percent of Saab Automobile AB of Sweden to develop,
manufacture and market Saab passenger cars worldwide.

GM and Isuzu form joint venture company in Australia, Isuzu-General
Motors Australia Limited, to manufacture and market commercial vehicles
through Holden's.

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Old August 16th 06, 11:12 PM posted to alt.collecting.8-track-tapes
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http://www.usatoday.com/money/autos/...pe-sales_x.htm

GM Europe: February car sales rise, share slips
FRANKFURT (Reuters) - General Motors' (GM) vehicle sales in Europe
rose 1.6% in February to over 135,400 units but the U.S. carmaker's
market share dipped to 9.1% from 9.2% a year ago, it said on Wednesday.
It said Swedish brand Saab had its best-ever February, while its
Chevrolet brand boosted sales in Europe by 22.6%.

Excluding commercial vehicles, GM Europe had a market share of 9.8%
last month, down from 10.0% in February 2005, it said.

Passenger car sales for the group's Opel/Vauxhall, Chevrolet, Saab and
Cadillac brands rose 1.3% to 123,800 units.

German brand Opel and its British sister brand Vauxhall saw February
sales decline 2.2% to 95,315 units.

Saab, which major GM investor Kirk Kerkorian's representative on GM's
board has suggested should be sold, boosted European sales 31% to 5,554
units. Global sales gained 21% to 8,974 vehicles as new models like the
9-3 sports wagon took hold.

European sales of South Korean-made Chevrolets advanced 22.6% to 19,660
cars, helped by strong growth in central and eastern Europe, especially
Russia, it said.

GM sold 258 Cadillacs in Europe last month before the April launch of
the BLS model, the first Cadillac built in Europe. No comparative
figures were immediately available.

Jonathan Browning, GM Europe's head of sales and marketing, highlighted
progress at Chevrolet and Saab for volume growth.

"For Opel and Vauxhall we have concentrated on improving revenue and
product mix, emphasising the quality rather than quantity of sales.
This will be the pattern for 2006," he added in a statement.

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Old August 17th 06, 12:54 AM posted to alt.collecting.8-track-tapes
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On 16 Aug 2006 15:08:13 -0700, "Dwight D. Eisenhower"
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GM also owns Saab and Opel snip


Saab = Loser...losing sales since GM took over, GM looking to dump.
Opel = Perennial GM loser in Europe and is now defunct.

GM- ruling the automotive world with an iron fist- capitulate, or be
bought out snip


Maybe in Sloan's time...certainly not now. Other car builders are
laughing at GM.
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Old August 17th 06, 01:00 AM posted to alt.collecting.8-track-tapes
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On 16 Aug 2006 15:12:20 -0700, "Dwight D. Eisenhower"
wrote:

http://www.usatoday.com/money/autos/...pe-sales_x.htm

GM Europe: February car sales rise, share slips sniip


How is "market share slips" mean they're doing well? THey're not.
READ the article, dickface...GM Europe is going down the crapper!

Passenger car sales for the group's Opel/Vauxhall, Chevrolet, Saab and
Cadillac brands rose 1.3% to 123,800 units. snip


123,800 units....ROFLMAO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

German brand Opel and its British sister brand Vauxhall saw February
sales decline 2.2% to 95,315 units. snip


Opel/Vauxhall's been dormant for years....95K units...ROFL.

GM sold 258 Cadillacs in Europe last month before the April launch of
the BLS model, the first Cadillac built in Europe. No comparative
figures were immediately available. snip


258 Cadillacs! ROFLMAO!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Compared to...let's se....HOW
many Benzes?

Jonathan Browning, GM Europe's head of sales and marketing, highlighted
progress at Chevrolet and Saab for volume growth. snip


Got nowhere to go BUT up!

"For Opel and Vauxhall we have concentrated on improving revenue and
product mix, emphasising the quality rather than quantity of sales.
This will be the pattern for 2006," he added in a statement. snip


Yeah right...Opel's always been a dud. Remember when they tried to
import the Kadette here? What a bomb.
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Old August 18th 06, 02:03 AM posted to alt.collecting.8-track-tapes
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Yeah right...Opel's always been a dud. Remember when they tried to
import the Kadette here? What a bomb.

A few years after that fiasco you could not drive
through a suburban area without seeing them abandoned in people's
backyards. Then one night they all disappeared.
That Opel GT was not bad looking though and inexpensive to boot. I
always liked they way the headlight covers manually went up and down with a
big lever. Trouble with all those European imports (Cortina, Opel, Capri,
Austin Marina, Simca) was eyecatching advertising and neat packaging coupled
with lacklustre dealer servicing after purchase. Especially those sold off
the showrooms of the big three.


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Old August 18th 06, 05:10 AM posted to alt.collecting.8-track-tapes
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On Fri, 18 Aug 2006 01:03:51 GMT, "William W Western"
wrote:

A few years after that fiasco you could not drive
through a suburban area without seeing them abandoned in people's
backyards. Then one night they all disappeared. snip


Maybe Nudo beamed them up to his junkyard mothership?

That Opel GT was not bad looking though and inexpensive to boot. I
always liked they way the headlight covers manually went up and down with a
big lever. snip


Although the GT had Detroit-mandated styling, it still had the same
mechanical shortcomings as the Kadette. Cute car...for awhile. Over
in Europe, VW, Daimler, English Ford and even Fiat were kicking (and
still do kick) GM's ass all over the continent. As if Opel/Vauxhall
weren't bad enough, now GM is tanking Saab. Funny how the visage of a
1958 Vauxhall just popped into mind...a small car that oddly looked
like a scale model of the 1958 Buick Super. In fact, back in those
days, Vauxhalls were sold and serviced in the US by Buick franchisees.

Trouble with all those European imports (Cortina, Opel, Capri,
Austin Marina, Simca) was eyecatching advertising and neat packaging coupled
with lacklustre dealer servicing after purchase. Especially those sold off
the showrooms of the big three. snip


True. I had a fellow I was tutoring for awhile that was very proud of
his new Ford Cortina. I think it lasted a total of two years before
it became unfeasible to maintain due to a chronic lack of spares in
the US. Remember, though, that this was circa 1970, and the only
European manufacturer to really have their own dealer network here was
VW, and they then, unlike today, had a sterling reputation then for
backing their product.

The Capri sold in large numbers, and was quite popular, until Ford
started screwing it up. The 1971, '72 and '73 Capris were very
desireable, and with the same engine as the Pinto, were reliable.
Ford's hamfisted approach to meeting emissions standards screwed up
all 4 cylinder (and some fo the V6) Ford products, both US and
European. By '75, drivability of the Capri earned it the moniker
"Crap-ee" here, and sales went down the toilet.

One unappreciated Ford import that was a VERY neat car: The Merkur.
It was a shame that mutton-headed Ford management screwed that whole
program up, as the Merkur was a real contender. Although the Merkur
project in the US was very mismanged under Nassar, it was (who else?)
Billy Boy Ford who finally killed it off permanently after ousting
Nassar.
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Old August 18th 06, 12:17 PM posted to alt.collecting.8-track-tapes
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William W Western wrote:
Yeah right...Opel's always been a dud. Remember when they tried to
import the Kadette here? What a bomb.

A few years after that fiasco you could not drive
through a suburban area without seeing them abandoned in people's
backyards. Then one night they all disappeared.
That Opel GT was not bad looking though and inexpensive to boot. I
always liked they way the headlight covers manually went up and down with a
big lever. Trouble with all those European imports (Cortina, Opel, Capri,
Austin Marina, Simca) was eyecatching advertising and neat packaging coupled
with lacklustre dealer servicing after purchase. Especially those sold off
the showrooms of the big three.



If you buy a new Saturn today, you are getting an Opel European chassis
design. If you opt for the V-6, it is a Saab V-6.

Ford also bought out Mazda.

The big three OWN the Jappers and Euros. Foreign car companies lick
GM's boots like the little worms they are....

 




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