Burning Stamp Collection - Proper?

When we make the decision to become "collectors", we assume a
responsibility to be good caretakers of the material we collect, the
"collectibles". If we are not good stewards of the material we collect,
we deny others of this honor, privilege, and trust. We would not have
the material we collect if our predecessor collectors had not preserved
their collections.

Burning a collection is a gross violation of this responsibility.

Phil



Ned Kelly wrote:

On Tue, 23 Oct 2007 10:06:08 -0700, Sir F. A. Rien
wrote:


Proposition 88 found these unused words:


On Sun, 7 Oct 2007 14:48:21 -0700, "Richard C." wrote:





Troll or not, the OP is an idiot!





If it is truely worth something, then a dealer knows what it is worth.
Either that or sell it on eBay at least.
Burining a collectionis a childish act.





A dealer knows how long it takes to break up and sell a collection.





If the collection had anything of real value a dealer will pay a fair price.





NOT IN USA!! Or Canada either.





By "Fair" it is meant 'fair' in a business sense.





When you go to the market or computer store, you are paying 300% of the
actual cost of production of the 'item'. That's all the transport, handling
and operating costs added in.





A 'fair' price for a good collection is about 25% of the over $1 items.



Unfortunately, most of the larger dealers want to steal the collection for 2%
- not 25%!!



IF the collection is highly specialized ans has the rarities, then it
becomes more.



Your points above are pretty correct.

Unfortunately, in Canada are very few dealers, and to ship to an unknown
dealer risks being swindled, as I have been in the past.

As for auctions, most of them are just as bad at cheating consignors as many
of the dealers kicked out of APS.

As for charities, there are very few that are worth considering, based on the
interests of the donor.

With no family interested, and no fair cash offers, at least by burning, some
satisfaction in knowing that some crooked dealer will not profit, is the best
that can be achieved.

If someone has other suggestions, I am sure many others will also welcome
them beside the OP.

Excellent Point!

Thanks........
Richard (An APS member for 37 years and a dealer since 1956)

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"Phil Rhoade" wrote in message news:HvKTi.152534$Xa3.35869@attbi_s22...
When we make the decision to become "collectors", we assume a responsibility to be good caretakers of the material we collect, the "collectibles". If we are not good stewards of the material we collect, we deny others of this honor, privilege, and trust. We would not have the material we collect if our predecessor collectors had not preserved their collections.

Burning a collection is a gross violation of this responsibility.

Phil



Ned Kelly wrote:

On Tue, 23 Oct 2007 10:06:08 -0700, Sir F. A. Rien
wrote:
Proposition 88 found these unused words:
On Sun, 7 Oct 2007 14:48:21 -0700, "Richard C." wrote:

Troll or not, the OP is an idiot!

If it is truely worth something, then a dealer knows what it is worth.
Either that or sell it on eBay at least.
Burining a collectionis a childish act.

A dealer knows how long it takes to break up and sell a collection.

If the collection had anything of real value a dealer will pay a fair price.

NOT IN USA!! Or Canada either.

By "Fair" it is meant 'fair' in a business sense.

When you go to the market or computer store, you are paying 300% of the
actual cost of production of the 'item'. That's all the transport, handling
and operating costs added in.

A 'fair' price for a good collection is about 25% of the over $1 items.

Unfortunately, most of the larger dealers want to steal the collection for 2%
- not 25%!!

IF the collection is highly specialized ans has the rarities, then it
becomes more.

Your points above are pretty correct.

Unfortunately, in Canada are very few dealers, and to ship to an unknown
dealer risks being swindled, as I have been in the past.

As for auctions, most of them are just as bad at cheating consignors as many
of the dealers kicked out of APS.

As for charities, there are very few that are worth considering, based on the
interests of the donor.

With no family interested, and no fair cash offers, at least by burning, some
satisfaction in knowing that some crooked dealer will not profit, is the best
that can be achieved.

If someone has other suggestions, I am sure many others will also welcome
them beside the OP.

On Wed, 24 Oct 2007 13:30:04 -0700, "Richard C." wrote:

Excellent Point!

Thanks........
Richard (An APS member for 37 years and a dealer since 1956)

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"Phil Rhoade" wrote in message news:HvKTi.152534$Xa3.35869@attbi_s22...
When we make the decision to become "collectors", we assume a responsibility to be good caretakers of
the material we collect, the "collectibles". If we are not good stewards of the material we collect,
we deny others of this honor, privilege, and trust.
We would not have the material we collect if our predecessor collectors had not preserved their collections.

Burning a collection is a gross violation of this responsibility.
Phil

That is your opinion, which I would not wish to abrogate.

However, in the real world, what one buys, as property, normally carries
absolutely no philosophical baggage, such as you mention.

Consequently, if the owner thereof feels that sooner than allow some other
person to profit from his property, he wishes to burn it, then that is his
inalienable right - to dispose of such property as he wishes, even unto
destruction.

After all, if he destroys a huge collection, will that not perhaps increase
the value of those items remaining in existence? So indirectly, he benefits
those collectors remaining?

By the way, I notice that not one reputable buyer or dealer has been mentioned
by collectors. Is that because there is no longer such a reputable dealer left
in existence?


Ned Kelly wrote:
On Tue, 23 Oct 2007 10:06:08 -0700, Sir F. A. Rien
wrote:
Proposition 88 found these unused words:
On Sun, 7 Oct 2007 14:48:21 -0700, "Richard C." wrote:

Troll or not, the OP is an idiot!

If it is truely worth something, then a dealer knows what it is worth.
Either that or sell it on eBay at least.
Burining a collectionis a childish act.

A dealer knows how long it takes to break up and sell a collection.

If the collection had anything of real value a dealer will pay a fair price.

NOT IN USA!! Or Canada either.

By "Fair" it is meant 'fair' in a business sense.

When you go to the market or computer store, you are paying 300% of the
actual cost of production of the 'item'. That's all the transport, handling
and operating costs added in.

A 'fair' price for a good collection is about 25% of the over $1 items.

Unfortunately, most of the larger dealers want to steal the collection for 2%
- not 25%!!

IF the collection is highly specialized ans has the rarities, then it
becomes more.

Your points above are pretty correct.

Unfortunately, in Canada are very few dealers, and to ship to an unknown
dealer risks being swindled, as I have been in the past.

As for auctions, most of them are just as bad at cheating consignors as many
of the dealers kicked out of APS.

As for charities, there are very few that are worth considering, based on the
interests of the donor.

With no family interested, and no fair cash offers, at least by burning, some
satisfaction in knowing that some crooked dealer will not profit, is the best
that can be achieved.

If someone has other suggestions, I am sure many others will also welcome
them beside the OP.

On Sun, 18 Nov 2007 21:05:30 -0500, "Pradipta-Mordehai Ivanow-Lu"
wrote:

A friend has admitted that in disgust with offers to buy
from so-called reputable dealers, he has now started to
burn his huge collection.

holly ****.
1 get any kind of "price evaluation"
2 donate
3 deduct from taxes

(all rich ppl do that. instedad of stams they use stupid Gaugain
paintings )

Since you have finally learned some English, and are now responding several
weeks after the article appeared, it is only fair that people reply to you.

The OP has had several evaluations, even from dealers without enough cash to
buy.

The OP has not found any worthwhile charities to whom to donate, where he
lives.

In Canada one does not "deduct from taxes" whatever that means where you live.

Consequently, the OP gets some satisfaction from burning his collection, a
piece at a time.

YetAnotherPseudonym wrote:

Consequently, the OP gets some satisfaction from burning his collection, a
piece at a time.

Please burn both your collection and your computer, so that we will
no longer receive your postings.

Ryan