Burning Stamp Collection - Proper?

There are no acceptable charities locally.
The owner is not willing to give to some so-called charity,
who will only dump the collection for peanuts to some
scuzzy dealer.


On Sat, 6 Oct 2007 23:22:17 -0500, "A.E. Gelat" , in
wrote:

Give the collection to a charity, get a receipt for it and get an income tax
deduction. The charity will know what to do with it.

Tony

"TL" wrote in message
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On Oct 6, 8:00 pm, Anonymous wrote:
A friend has admitted that in disgust with offers to buy
from so-called reputable dealers, he has now started to
burn his huge collection.

He says that the offers to buy were so insulting,
he feels that by burning his collection, at least
he will be denying the crooks the chance to make
money from him.

Apparently his children have no interest in stamp
collecting, since they are busy with new families.

Like my friend, I also am disgusted with the larger
dealers, and have found no worthwhile charities to
which I would bequeath my collections.

Is burning the only sensible solution?

Comments from all, invited.

too much idle time, too suicidal and too much faith in newsgroup
discussion. give the collection to stray cats and dogs and go outside
more.

Are there no honest dealers left, who pay a fair price, or only the big
crooks?

On Sun, 7 Oct 2007 14:48:21 -0700, "Richard C." wrote:

Troll or not, the OP is an idiot!

If it is truely worth something, then a dealer knows what it is worth.
Either that or sell it on eBay at least.
Burining a collectionis a childish act.

A dealer knows how long it takes to break up and sell a collection.

If the collection had anything of real value a dealer will pay a fair price.

NOT IN USA!! Or Canada either.

From comments from many senior collectors, it seems there will be a lot of
collections getting burned by owners, to avoid getting burned by slimy
dealers.

And do not mention the crooked auctions, which seem to be worse than the
dealers!

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"Proposition 88" wrote in message
.. .
It most definitely was no troll.

Too many of us seniors, who used to collect stamps, are in a similar
situation.

For many of us, sooner than sell below a fair price to some crooked
dealer,
by burning our collections we at least get the satisfaction of denying
some
thief the chance to profit from us.

Not all of us have worthwhile charities nearby, either.


On Sun, 07 Oct 2007 11:59:49 -0400, wrote:
On Sun, 07 Oct 2007 02:00:22 -0000, Anonymous
wrote:

A friend has admitted that in disgust with offers to buy
from so-called reputable dealers, he has now started to
burn his huge collection.

He says that the offers to buy were so insulting,
he feels that by burning his collection, at least
he will be denying the crooks the chance to make
money from him.

Apparently his children have no interest in stamp
collecting, since they are busy with new families.

Like my friend, I also am disgusted with the larger
dealers, and have found no worthwhile charities to
which I would bequeath my collections.

Is burning the only sensible solution?

Comments from all, invited.


This is a troll in the disguise of the so-called "friend". Do not
take it seriously.

"VictorRCurious" wrote in message
...

Are there no honest dealers left, who pay a fair price, or only the big
crooks?

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Just WHAT do you think is a fair price?
What percent of catalog?
You realize that there are tons of dealers out there selling stamps at
HUGE discounts from Scott?
As someone already stated, only the valuable ones need to be considered when
making an offer.
The rest of the items (under $1) may end up in stock for 20 years or more.
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"Proposition 88" wrote in message
...

NOT IN USA!! Or Canada either.

From comments from many senior collectors, it seems there will be a lot of
collections getting burned by owners, to avoid getting burned by slimy
dealers.

And do not mention the crooked auctions, which seem to be worse than the
dealers!

===========================
Sounds like you pick the wrong dealers and auctions.

Just what percent of cat should a dealer offer?
Why?

Most items in a collection will sit in the dealers stock for 20 years.
Most of us have an inflated idea of what our collections are worth.
Especially collections with 99% of the items with a cat of under $1.

Look at eBay....many collections go for big bucks if they have any better
items.
Ones with only cheap stamps go cheap.

On Sun, 7 Oct 2007 14:48:21 -0700, "Richard C." wrote:

Troll or not, the OP is an idiot!

If it is truely worth something, then a dealer knows what it is worth.
Either that or sell it on eBay at least.
Burning a collection is a childish act.

A dealer knows how long it takes to break up and sell a collection.

If the collection had anything of real value a dealer will pay a fair price.

NOT IN USA!! Or Canada either.

From comments from many senior collectors, it seems there will be a lot of
collections getting burned by owners, to avoid getting burned by slimy
dealers.

And do not mention the crooked auctions, which seem to be worse than the
dealers!


And one more point to consider, re Canada.

Cheques and money orders from the USa are basically worthless in Canada,
as far as Canadian banks are concerned.

One will not get the cash from such, for up to 90 days, provided the draft or
cheque is actually good.

No prudent seller is going to release his goods to someone he does not know,
UNTIL HE ACTUALLY RECEIVES THE CASH!

There are too many crooked dealers and auctioneers out there.
Just ask APS.

============================================

"Proposition 88" wrote in message
. ..
It most definitely was no troll.

Too many of us seniors, who used to collect stamps, are in a similar
situation.

For many of us, sooner than sell below a fair price to some crooked
dealer,
by burning our collections we at least get the satisfaction of denying
some
thief the chance to profit from us.

Not all of us have worthwhile charities nearby, either.


On Sun, 07 Oct 2007 11:59:49 -0400, wrote:
On Sun, 07 Oct 2007 02:00:22 -0000, Anonymous
wrote:

A friend has admitted that in disgust with offers to buy
from so-called reputable dealers, he has now started to
burn his huge collection.

He says that the offers to buy were so insulting,
he feels that by burning his collection, at least
he will be denying the crooks the chance to make
money from him.

Apparently his children have no interest in stamp
collecting, since they are busy with new families.

Like my friend, I also am disgusted with the larger
dealers, and have found no worthwhile charities to
which I would bequeath my collections.

Is burning the only sensible solution?

Comments from all, invited.


This is a troll in the disguise of the so-called "friend". Do not
take it seriously.

On Oct 8, 7:19 am, VictorRCurious wrote:
There are no acceptable charities locally.
The owner is not willing to give to some so-called charity,
who will only dump the collection for peanuts to some
scuzzy dealer.

On Sat, 6 Oct 2007 23:22:17 -0500, "A.E. Gelat" , in
wrote:



Give the collection to a charity, get a receipt for it and get an income tax
deduction. The charity will know what to do with it.
Tony
"TL" wrote in message
ups.com...
On Oct 6, 8:00 pm, Anonymous wrote:
A friend has admitted that in disgust with offers to buy
from so-called reputable dealers, he has now started to
burn his huge collection.
He says that the offers to buy were so insulting,
he feels that by burning his collection, at least
he will be denying the crooks the chance to make
money from him.
Apparently his children have no interest in stamp
collecting, since they are busy with new families.
Like my friend, I also am disgusted with the larger
dealers, and have found no worthwhile charities to
which I would bequeath my collections.
Is burning the only sensible solution?
Comments from all, invited.
too much idle time, too suicidal and too much faith in newsgroup
discussion. give the collection to stray cats and dogs and go outside
more.

Are there no honest dealers left, who pay a fair price, or only the big
crooks?

Well now you are just not making sense. When you've donated a
collection, it is essentially "sold" and you have gotten your price.
What the charity does with it is the same as what a buyer does with
it: whatever they want. You've never had any intention of donating
it. If your entire collection made a decent life for one innocent
animal it will have served a better purpose than it does now. Quit
changing your alias, your own pet's name will be here as an alias next.

On Mon, 08 Oct 2007 07:57:39 -0700, TL wrote:

On Oct 8, 7:19 am, VictorRCurious wrote:
There are no acceptable charities locally.
The owner is not willing to give to some so-called charity,
who will only dump the collection for peanuts to some
scuzzy dealer.


This is an important point.

The donor wishes to give to a WORTHWHILE charity, not some fly-by-night group.
Since there are none nearby, he feels that burning will avoid his material
being given for next to nothing to an unscrupulous dealer.



On Sat, 6 Oct 2007 23:22:17 -0500, "A.E. Gelat" , in
wrote:

Give the collection to a charity, get a receipt for it and get an income tax
deduction. The charity will know what to do with it.
Tony
"TL" wrote in message
ups.com...
On Oct 6, 8:00 pm, Anonymous wrote:
A friend has admitted that in disgust with offers to buy
from so-called reputable dealers, he has now started to
burn his huge collection.
He says that the offers to buy were so insulting,
he feels that by burning his collection, at least
he will be denying the crooks the chance to make
money from him.
Apparently his children have no interest in stamp
collecting, since they are busy with new families.
Like my friend, I also am disgusted with the larger
dealers, and have found no worthwhile charities to
which I would bequeath my collections.
Is burning the only sensible solution?
Comments from all, invited.
too much idle time, too suicidal and too much faith in newsgroup
discussion. give the collection to stray cats and dogs and go outside
more.

Are there no honest dealers left, who pay a fair price, or only the big
crooks?


It seems that there no longer are any reputable dealers left, since no one has
yet given the name and address of one!

Well now you are just not making sense. When you've donated a
collection, it is essentially "sold" and you have gotten your price.
What the charity does with it is the same as what a buyer does with
it: whatever they want.

On Mon, 08 Oct 2007 13:43:49 GMT, Proposition 88
wrote:

On Sun, 7 Oct 2007 14:48:21 -0700, "Richard C." wrote:

Troll or not, the OP is an idiot!

NOT IN USA!! Or Canada either.

From comments from many senior collectors, it seems there will be a lot of
collections getting burned by owners, to avoid getting burned by slimy
dealers.

And do not mention the crooked auctions, which seem to be worse than the
dealers!

This poster has been trying to offload overpriced goods to the market
for some time.

Further, this poster has been paranoid, cynical and delusional for at
least the same amount of time.

It is too sad that a fellow stamp collector has fallen to the depths
of despair... anyone, for that matter.

This is the same person who has brought us Edmonton, people. Or, at
least one of his fan club.

This person thinks that through force of will, he will convert us to
his side and thinking about all subject philatelic and political. -OR-
perhaps he thinks he is playing us like a violin -OR- both.

We are all not blind to the injustices in this world, but thinks he
can protect us, fix us and lead us by reminding us every so often
about this or that with fanatical precision.

Away with ye demon! Please burn your collection and leave us poor,
unknowing, hapless sheep to our own fate, thank you very much.

yawn

On Mon, 08 Oct 2007 07:57:39 -0700, TL wrote:

On Oct 8, 7:19 am, VictorRCurious wrote:
There are no acceptable charities locally.
The owner is not willing to give to some so-called charity,
who will only dump the collection for peanuts to some
scuzzy dealer.

This is an important point.

The donor wishes to give to a WORTHWHILE charity, not some fly-by-night group.
Since there are none nearby, he feels that burning will avoid his material
being given for next to nothing to an unscrupulous dealer.


On Sat, 6 Oct 2007 23:22:17 -0500, "A.E. Gelat" , in
wrote:

Give the collection to a charity, get a receipt for it and get an income tax
deduction. The charity will know what to do with it.
Tony

"TL" wrote in message
ups.com...
On Oct 6, 8:00 pm, Anonymous wrote:
A friend has admitted that in disgust with offers to buy
from so-called reputable dealers, he has now started to
burn his huge collection.
He says that the offers to buy were so insulting,
he feels that by burning his collection, at least
he will be denying the crooks the chance to make
money from him.
Apparently his children have no interest in stamp
collecting, since they are busy with new families.
Like my friend, I also am disgusted with the larger
dealers, and have found no worthwhile charities to
which I would bequeath my collections.
Is burning the only sensible solution?
Comments from all, invited.

too much idle time, too suicidal and too much faith in newsgroup
discussion. give the collection to stray cats and dogs and go outside
more.

Are there no honest dealers left, who pay a fair price, or only the big
crooks?


It seems that there no longer are any reputable dealers left, since no one has
yet given the name and address of one!

If you have had a satisfactory experience in selling off your collection, let
readers know about this fantastic dealer.

Well now you are just not making sense. When you've donated a
collection, it is essentially "sold" and you have gotten your price.
What the charity does with it is the same as what a buyer does with
it: whatever they want.