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Old February 25th 12, 03:54 AM posted to rec.collecting.stamps.discuss
Blair (TC)
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Would anyone have information about this stamp?
http://cjoint.com/?BBzeHfgVvAc

It appears to be an issue of the "Republic of Kosova", (not Kosovo),
which existed from 1990-2000.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Republic_of_Kosova

Thank You

Blair



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Old February 27th 12, 08:25 AM posted to rec.collecting.stamps.discuss
Gandalf_le_Gris
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hello

it's a very curious stamp =

The Republic of Kosova disappeared in 2000 but the Euro exists since 2002.

Why this stamp is in Euro ?



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"Blair (TC)" a écrit dans le message de
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Would anyone have information about this stamp?
http://cjoint.com/?BBzeHfgVvAc

It appears to be an issue of the "Republic of Kosova", (not Kosovo),
which existed from 1990-2000.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Republic_of_Kosova

Thank You

Blair




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Old February 27th 12, 03:53 PM posted to rec.collecting.stamps.discuss
Sir F.A. Rien
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On Mon, 27 Feb 2012 09:25:16 +0100, "Gandalf_le_Gris"
sharpened a crayon and wrote:

hello

it's a very curious stamp =

The Republic of Kosova disappeared in 2000 but the Euro exists since 2002.

Why this stamp is in Euro ?


Others may know the actual stroy, but I've been told that there are
firms printing 'bogus' stamps for countries that either don't uissue,
or are no longer 'soverign'.

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Old March 1st 12, 06:00 PM posted to rec.collecting.stamps.discuss
Blair (TC)
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On Feb 24, 10:54*pm, "Blair (TC)" wrote:
Would anyone have information about this stamp?http://cjoint.com/?BBzeHfgVvAc

It appears to be an issue of the "Republic of Kosova", *(not Kosovo),
which existed from 1990-2000.http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Republic_of_Kosova

Thank You

Blair


In looking further, I see that the Albanian name of both republics
(Kosova aqnd Kosovo)
are the same. So that MIGHT explain why the stamp is in Euros and
COULD be issurd
after 2002.

However, it appears to me that there are illegal stamp on the market,
pretending to be
legal stamps.

Here are two copies of a Kosovo stamp from 2009. They were used as
postage on a
letter to the USA in 2011. Please note the country name in three
languages at the top.
http://cjoint.com/12ma/BCbsy5mjwzz.htm

I have never heard anything about the overprints.

Finally, here is an obvious illegal Kosova set from 2000.
One give away is that the inscriptions are in ENGLISH only.
http://cjoint.com/12ma/BCbs4wcWvQ6.htm

The overprint is still a mystery.

Blair


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Old March 9th 12, 04:57 AM posted to rec.collecting.stamps.discuss
Milco
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On Feb 25, 5:54*am, "Blair (TC)" wrote:
Would anyone have information about this stamp?http://cjoint.com/?BBzeHfgVvAc

It appears to be an issue of the "Republic of Kosova", *(not Kosovo),
which existed from 1990-2000.http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Republic_of_Kosova

Thank You

Blair


Must to inform You that "Kosova" and "Kosovo" never received
independence, and territory is still one Autonomy of Serbia.
All this stamp, overprint, etc You can find on eBay selling by vera
Trinder (if I'm correct), under "mark" like privat issue.

Wikipedia page that is referring it like "short lived" state, is
probably made by some "fun" author.

All issue, with name "Kosova", "Kosovo" are/is just privat issue, with
clear intention to made some kind of profit from collectors.

best regards
Milco
http://picasaweb.google.com/balkanstamp
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Old March 9th 12, 04:57 AM posted to rec.collecting.stamps.discuss
Milco
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On Feb 27, 10:25*am, "Gandalf_le_Gris" francis.humbert-
wrote:
hello

it's a very curious stamp =

The Republic of Kosova disappeared in 2000 but the Euro exists since 2002..

Why this stamp is in Euro ?

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Gandalf_le_Gris

Pour me joindre =
le 1er -nopub n'existe pas
le 2nd est orange

"Blair (TC)" a écrit dans le message ...







Would anyone have information about this stamp?
http://cjoint.com/?BBzeHfgVvAc


It appears to be an issue of the "Republic of Kosova", *(not Kosovo),
which existed from 1990-2000.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Republic_of_Kosova


Thank You


Blair


Must to inform You that "Kosova" and "Kosovo" never received
independence, and territory is still one Autonomy of Serbia.
All this stamp, overprint, etc You can find on eBay selling by vera
Trinder (if I'm correct), under "mark" like privat issue.

Wikipedia page that is referring it like "short lived" state, is
probably made by some "fun" author.

All issue, with name "Kosova", "Kosovo" are/is just privat issue, with
clear intention to made some kind of profit from collectors.

best regards
Milco
http://picasaweb.google.com/balkanstamp
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Old March 9th 12, 03:23 PM posted to rec.collecting.stamps.discuss
Blair (TC)
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On Mar 8, 11:57*pm, Milco wrote:
On Feb 27, 10:25*am, "Gandalf_le_Gris" francis.humbert-









wrote:
hello


it's a very curious stamp =


The Republic of Kosova disappeared in 2000 but the Euro exists since 2002.


Why this stamp is in Euro ?


--
Gandalf_le_Gris


Pour me joindre =
le 1er -nopub n'existe pas
le 2nd est orange


"Blair (TC)" a écrit dans le message ...


Would anyone have information about this stamp?
http://cjoint.com/?BBzeHfgVvAc


It appears to be an issue of the "Republic of Kosova", *(not Kosovo),
which existed from 1990-2000.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Republic_of_Kosova


Thank You


Blair


Must to inform You that "Kosova" and "Kosovo" never received
independence, and territory is still one Autonomy of Serbia.
All this stamp, overprint, etc You can find on eBay selling by vera
Trinder (if I'm correct), under "mark" like privat issue.

Wikipedia page that is referring it like *"short lived" state, is
probably made by some "fun" author.

All issue, with name "Kosova", "Kosovo" are/is just privat issue, with
clear intention to made some kind of profit from collectors.

best regards
Milcohttp://picasaweb.google.com/balkanstamp


Thank You, Milco.
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Old March 10th 12, 04:37 PM posted to rec.collecting.stamps.discuss
Victor Manta
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"Milco" wrote in message
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Must to inform You that "Kosova" and "Kosovo" never received
independence, and territory is still one Autonomy of Serbia.
All this stamp, overprint, etc You can find on eBay selling by vera
Trinder (if I'm correct), under "mark" like privat issue.

Wikipedia page that is referring it like "short lived" state, is
probably made by some "fun" author.

All issue, with name "Kosova", "Kosovo" are/is just privat issue, with
clear intention to made some kind of profit from collectors.


The complex question of the international recognition of Kosovo is covered
by the Wikipedia page:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Interna...tion_of_Kosovo

Because Kosovo stamp issues aren't listed as illegal stamps by the UPU IB
Circulars (as Serbia hasn't denounced them?), they haven't an official
illegal status.

http://www.upu.int/en/activities/phi...circulars.html

FWIW, Michel online lists Kosovo stamp issues (a total of 83 sets) between
March 15, 2000 and Dec. 26, 2011.


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Old March 16th 12, 07:15 PM posted to rec.collecting.stamps.discuss
Milco
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..

Here are two copies of a Kosovo stamp from 2009. *They were used as
postage on a
letter to the USA in 2011. *Please note the country name in three
languages at the top.http://cjoint.com/12ma/BCbsy5mjwzz.htm
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This one sample is stamp issued by Kosovo (self-declared Independent)
Post Authority,
and without any authorization from Serbia (Kosovo are still part of
Serbia, just one autonomy),
probably Scott catalog and Michel will register them because it is
"Official" issue from
country that Germany and USA recognized, but no UN recognized it, and
also no UPU have it.



Finally, here is an obvious illegal Kosova set from 2000.
One give away is that the inscriptions are in ENGLISH only.http://cjoint.com/12ma/BCbs4wcWvQ6.htm

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And this "Formula" issue is one great "label" issue, that some stamp
dealer (from England) have in
stock, and still offering it around. Not worth one dime from
collectors point, but people have it like "label"
and some kind of propaganda.


The overprint is still a mystery.

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It is not mystery at all, this is overprint made by "privat" person,
mean illegal overprint, made on official stamp
issued in Yugoslavia. This is done on many other countries, like if
You have some samples from SSSR with
some kind of "independent" republic overprint on regular SSSR stamp.
Again one nice attempt to "stole" from collectors.
best regards to all
Milco
http://picasaweb.google.com/balkanstamp
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Old March 16th 12, 07:33 PM posted to rec.collecting.stamps.discuss
Milco
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The complex question of the international recognition of Kosovo is covered
by the Wikipedia page:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Interna...tion_of_Kosovo

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Just "We" need to be informed, that Wikipedia is written by any one
who want to contribute
information, and NOT by official or any other recognized institution.

I understand well that some countries recognized Kosovo like
"Independent", but still UN and EU
didn't recognized it - and that mean, Kosovo IS NOT independent, and
that again mean - all stamp
with Kosovo name that don't have clearly UN mark on it are illegal.

Samples that is shown in this discussion, with Kosovo stamp legally
used in the mail to
USA, is possible just because USA is one (from around 30% of whole UN
countries that recognized
Kosovo) that provide direct post link from Kosovo to USA, and (just to
mention) former secretary of USA
have there personal company with exclusive right and monopoly on all
telecommunication and postal
activity.

Because Kosovo stamp issues aren't listed as illegal stamps by the UPU IB
Circulars (as Serbia hasn't denounced them?), they haven't an official
illegal status.

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This is not so correct, because UPU still don't have right to
recognize independence of any country
around world, it is same if You will say for Abhazia, Nagorno karabah,
Transilvania - both this
stamp are not stated in UPU like illegal, because it in not job of UPU
to be "world"
police or court room.


FWIW, Michel online lists Kosovo stamp issues (a total of 83 sets) between
March 15, 2000 and Dec. 26, 2011.

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Must to correct You, that Michel catalog have it recorded under UN -
Kosovo administration
that made very-very big difference, and if You see, on this stamp is
very clearly
stated and printed, "UN Administrated Kosovo".

best regards to all
Milco
http://picasaweb.google.com/balkanstamp
 




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