Nice Russian coin on e-fake

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...84328 33&rd=1

This has some of the worst lettering ever seen on a fake. The seller was
notified but ignored
the message.

RW Julian

Soobschennii k eBay, eto nye khorosho, no dermo! This has been reported to
eBay, btw - it is NOT nice but expletive!

Dave
Smert falshivki!

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http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...84328 33&rd=1

This has some of the worst lettering ever seen on a fake. The seller was
notified but ignored
the message.

RW Julian



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I got an acknowledgement back from fleaBay that they are "investigating",
in other words don't put your hand on your bum. Now the item is up to
$102.50, with probably a much higher proxy bid from an Auzzie bidder.

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Soobschennii k eBay, eto nye khorosho, no dermo! This has been reported
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eBay, btw - it is NOT nice but expletive!

Dave
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http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...84328 33&rd=1

This has some of the worst lettering ever seen on a fake. The seller was
notified but ignored
the message.

RW Julian



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Thanks for the assist. I also wrote ebay about this piece and got the
standard canned
response. About a month ago I did the same, with the same results - ebay
did nothing.
There are currently 3 more fakes on ebay, as follows:

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...87156 26&rd=1

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...86717 28&rd=1

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...m=39286717 28

In all three cases the seller was notified that the pieces are false but
did nothing. The seller
of the 1718 two roubles, however, replied that if I think the piece is a
fake, then do not bid!

RW Julian


Scottishmoney wrote:

I got an acknowledgement back from fleaBay that they are "investigating",
in other words don't put your hand on your bum. Now the item is up to
$102.50, with probably a much higher proxy bid from an Auzzie bidder.

Soobschennii k eBay, eto nye khorosho, no dermo! This has been reported

to

eBay, btw - it is NOT nice but expletive!

Dave
Smert falshivki!

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http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...84328 33&rd=1


This has some of the worst lettering ever seen on a fake. The seller was
notified but ignored
the message.

RW Julian

RW Julian wrote:

"
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...em=39284328 3
3&rd=1

This has some of the worst lettering ever seen on a fake. The seller was
notified but ignored the message."


No kidding. The lettering (pyat kopeki/yekaterinburg) looks like one of those
ransom notes with letters cut & pasted from a newspaper.


Anka

RW Julian wrote:

I also wrote ebay about this piece and got the
standard canned
response. About a month ago I did the same, with the same results - ebay
did nothing.

What you need to do is get one of the higher-ups at the ANA to recommend you
for eBay's Coins Community Watch team (CCW) so that your complaints are taken
more seriously. I imagine the members of this team are given a direct e-mail
address to someone at eBay who might actually care about the problem.


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When bidding online always sit on your helmet
Just say NO to counterfeits

A point well made. However, perhaps the first failure was a fluke. If
there is
a second failure then I will notify the appropriate people at the ANA
that ebay
is not cooperating.

RW Julian


Phil DeMayo wrote:

RW Julian wrote:

I also wrote ebay about this piece and got the
standard canned
response. About a month ago I did the same, with the same results - ebay
did nothing.


What you need to do is get one of the higher-ups at the ANA to recommend you
for eBay's Coins Community Watch team (CCW) so that your complaints are taken
more seriously. I imagine the members of this team are given a direct e-mail
address to someone at eBay who might actually care about the problem.


++++++++++
Phil DeMayo - always here for my fellow Stooge
When bidding online always sit on your helmet
Just say NO to counterfeits

RW Julian wrote:

A point well made. However, perhaps the first failure was a fluke. If
there is
a second failure then I will notify the appropriate people at the ANA
that ebay
is not cooperating.

The Coins Community Watch (CCW) is a new joint effort between eBay and the ANA
to help weed out fraudualent auctions in the Coins category....this is why I
mentioned it to you.

This past Monday night there was a well attended online workshop on the CCW.
The following is a link to the 101 posts in that workshop that will explain the
workings of the CCW and show you the concerns expressed by eBay users....and
eBay's response to those concerns:

http://babyurl.com/48ligF


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Phil DeMayo - always here for my fellow Stooge
When bidding online always sit on your helmet
Just say NO to counterfeits

I saw some fakes for sale in Ukraine a few years ago, some of them are lousy
as you describe, however some are very well executed. As best as I could
get out of the sellers they originated in Russia. I saw some fake Russian
plate money for sale in Khabarovsk(Russian Far East) back in 1991.

Dave
"Hope to ship myself to Siberia in 2005 for an 11 day train journey across
the Motherland"

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"Ankaaz" wrote in message
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RW Julian wrote:

"
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...em=39284328 3
3&rd=1

This has some of the worst lettering ever seen on a fake. The seller was
notified but ignored the message."


No kidding. The lettering (pyat kopeki/yekaterinburg) looks like one of
those
ransom notes with letters cut & pasted from a newspaper.


Anka




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The link notice is appreciated. It is well worth reading as it shows
that a number of people are concerned about numismatic fraud on ebay.

RWJ


Phil DeMayo wrote:

RW Julian wrote:

A point well made. However, perhaps the first failure was a fluke. If
there is
a second failure then I will notify the appropriate people at the ANA
that ebay
is not cooperating.


The Coins Community Watch (CCW) is a new joint effort between eBay and the ANA
to help weed out fraudualent auctions in the Coins category....this is why I
mentioned it to you.

This past Monday night there was a well attended online workshop on the CCW.
The following is a link to the 101 posts in that workshop that will explain the
workings of the CCW and show you the concerns expressed by eBay users....and
eBay's response to those concerns:

http://babyurl.com/48ligF


++++++++++
Phil DeMayo - always here for my fellow Stooge
When bidding online always sit on your helmet
Just say NO to counterfeits