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On Feb 5, 5:19*pm, "Willow Arune" wrote:
"RF": Go back to the Hardy boys - they are much more your style... Simple, predictable and easy. *Of course, the two lads were also polite - you may have problems with that concept. Yep, I like the Hardy Boys. You like to cut off your dick and pretend you are a woman. Who is better adjusted? |
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Willow Arune wrote:
Being way up north, it is difficult to get books signed and it would be impossible to send the books out due to costs. So I always send out bookplates, recognizing the limitations. I find flat-signing boring and thus always ask the writers to add whatever bit of whimsy they feel like and many do. As to Imus, having never heard his program I can only say that if someone is paid to give a commercial message, they owe the sponsor a duty to present that commercial in a positive manner. From what has been written, I think Imus failed to do that - indeed, he mocked the advertiser. He simply failed in his duty to his customer. That speaks of an ego bigger than a barn. He should be held accountable. Willow Imus is a loud, irritating radio personality who should have stuck to photography. Francis A. Miniter |
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Kris Baker wrote:
"Willow Arune" wrote in message news:Th3qj.5800$cc3.2786@edtnps82... Being way up north, it is difficult to get books signed and it would be impossible to send the books out due to costs. So I always send out bookplates, recognizing the limitations. I find flat-signing boring and thus always ask the writers to add whatever bit of whimsy they feel like and many do. As to Imus, having never heard his program I can only say that if someone is paid to give a commercial message, they owe the sponsor a duty to present that commercial in a positive manner. From what has been written, I think Imus failed to do that - indeed, he mocked the advertiser. He simply failed in his duty to his customer. That speaks of an ego bigger than a barn. He should be held accountable. Willow Any advertiser who picks Imus to push his product, knows what he's going to get. What confuses me is that contracts for advertising are usually with radio stations or radio networks. Contracts for endorsements are with personalities. This sounds more like an advertising contract with the radio station/network, and Imus flipped it. If it were a contract of endorsement, one would not expect an outright, on-air breach that gets taped for later use in a trial. Francis A. Miniter Flatsigned has got *more* publicity by hiring Imus to slam his outdated book and then suing, than if he'd used a more legitimate advertiser. Kris |
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"Francis A. Miniter" wrote in message news:47a92e48@kcnews01... Kris Baker wrote: "Willow Arune" wrote in message news:Th3qj.5800$cc3.2786@edtnps82... Being way up north, it is difficult to get books signed and it would be impossible to send the books out due to costs. So I always send out bookplates, recognizing the limitations. I find flat-signing boring and thus always ask the writers to add whatever bit of whimsy they feel like and many do. As to Imus, having never heard his program I can only say that if someone is paid to give a commercial message, they owe the sponsor a duty to present that commercial in a positive manner. From what has been written, I think Imus failed to do that - indeed, he mocked the advertiser. He simply failed in his duty to his customer. That speaks of an ego bigger than a barn. He should be held accountable. Willow Any advertiser who picks Imus to push his product, knows what he's going to get. What confuses me is that contracts for advertising are usually with radio stations or radio networks. Contracts for endorsements are with personalities. This sounds more like an advertising contract with the radio station/network, and Imus flipped it. If it were a contract of endorsement, one would not expect an outright, on-air breach that gets taped for later use in a trial. Francis A. Miniter Imus owns his show, which is then sold to a syndicator. These types of broadcasts carry their own advertising, although the local stations can insert their own in planned spaces. Everyone you see with Imus works for him, not for a radio station. He even has an ad salesman. That's why you hear odd ads on radio talk shows, that you don't hear elsewhere. Kis |
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"Francis A. Miniter" wrote in
news:47a92e48@kcnews01: Kris Baker wrote: "Willow Arune" wrote in message news:Th3qj.5800$cc3.2786@edtnps82... Being way up north, it is difficult to get books signed and it would be impossible to send the books out due to costs. So I always send out bookplates, recognizing the limitations. I find flat-signing boring and thus always ask the writers to add whatever bit of whimsy they feel like and many do. As to Imus, having never heard his program I can only say that if someone is paid to give a commercial message, they owe the sponsor a duty to present that commercial in a positive manner. From what has been written, I think Imus failed to do that - indeed, he mocked the advertiser. He simply failed in his duty to his customer. That speaks of an ego bigger than a barn. He should be held accountable. Willow Any advertiser who picks Imus to push his product, knows what he's going to get. What confuses me is that contracts for advertising are usually with radio stations or radio networks. Contracts for endorsements are with personalities. This sounds more like an advertising contract with the radio station/network, and Imus flipped it. If it were a contract of endorsement, one would not expect an outright, on-air breach that gets taped for later use in a trial. Francis A. Miniter From my experience in radio (on-air and in the office) if an advertiser wants to specify that one particular air personality does their ads, they get to. They may have to pay a premium for someone with the "star power" of an Imus or Howard Stern, but the advertiser can certainly make it a condition of the purchase if they're willing to pay for it. They can also specify that the ads are to be read live, not taped. Imus, on the other hand, may have a clause in his contract that says he doesn't have to read anything verbatim. If that's the case, then either the radio ad salesman didn't tell Flattie about it, (that means the station is at fault) or Flattie knew about it and went through with the buy anyway (in which case he's got no case at all.) |
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On Tue, 5 Feb 2008 17:34:16 -0800 (PST), RF
wrote: On Feb 5, 5:19*pm, "Willow Arune" wrote: "RF": Go back to the Hardy boys - they are much more your style... Simple, predictable and easy. *Of course, the two lads were also polite - you may have problems with that concept. Yep, I like the Hardy Boys. You like to cut off your dick and pretend you are a woman. Who is better adjusted? Is this a public vote? I vote dickless. |
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RF,
Happily, your posts can be blocked - and now are... Willow |
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On Feb 6, 12:40*am, R. Totale wrote:
I vote dickless. Are you saying you have no dick? Doesn't surprise me. |
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Barbara Bailey wrote:
"Francis A. Miniter" wrote in news:47a92e48@kcnews01: Kris Baker wrote: "Willow Arune" wrote in message news:Th3qj.5800$cc3.2786@edtnps82... Being way up north, it is difficult to get books signed and it would be impossible to send the books out due to costs. So I always send out bookplates, recognizing the limitations. I find flat-signing boring and thus always ask the writers to add whatever bit of whimsy they feel like and many do. As to Imus, having never heard his program I can only say that if someone is paid to give a commercial message, they owe the sponsor a duty to present that commercial in a positive manner. From what has been written, I think Imus failed to do that - indeed, he mocked the advertiser. He simply failed in his duty to his customer. That speaks of an ego bigger than a barn. He should be held accountable. Willow Any advertiser who picks Imus to push his product, knows what he's going to get. What confuses me is that contracts for advertising are usually with radio stations or radio networks. Contracts for endorsements are with personalities. This sounds more like an advertising contract with the radio station/network, and Imus flipped it. If it were a contract of endorsement, one would not expect an outright, on-air breach that gets taped for later use in a trial. Francis A. Miniter From my experience in radio (on-air and in the office) if an advertiser wants to specify that one particular air personality does their ads, they get to. They may have to pay a premium for someone with the "star power" of an Imus or Howard Stern, but the advertiser can certainly make it a condition of the purchase if they're willing to pay for it. They can also specify that the ads are to be read live, not taped. Imus, on the other hand, may have a clause in his contract that says he doesn't have to read anything verbatim. If that's the case, then either the radio ad salesman didn't tell Flattie about it, (that means the station is at fault) or Flattie knew about it and went through with the buy anyway (in which case he's got no case at all.) Thank you. One of the most fascinating things about UseNet is that so many people with so many experiences read the posts that there is almost always someone who has something sensible to say on a subject. Francis A. Miniter |
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On Feb 5, 7:44*pm, "Francis A. Miniter"
wrote: Willow Arune wrote: Being way up north, it is difficult to get books signed and it would be impossible to send the books out due to costs. So I always send out bookplates, recognizing the limitations. *I find flat-signing boring and thus always ask the writers to add whatever bit of whimsy they feel like and many do. As to Imus, having never heard his program I can only say that if someone is paid to give a commercial message, they owe the sponsor a duty to present that commercial in a positive manner. *From what has been written, I think Imus failed to do that - indeed, he mocked the advertiser. *He simply failed in his duty to his customer. *That speaks of an ego bigger than a barn.. *He should be held accountable. Willow Imus is a loud, irritating radio personality who should have stuck to photography. That was my point before a certain ignorant clod started flailing his wet-noodle flames at me. If I had a book to peddle which was introduced by a former president, Imus is the LAST person I would pay to advertise. Sorry if I have offended anyone with that "radical" notion. On the other hand, if I were selling, "The Life and Times of Bozo the Clown" Imus might be okay. Sadly, tv is such a large part of certain posters' lives that they have lost all perspective. If Imus or Oprah, etc. say something is good, then it must be good, at least to these eroded-lobe dimwits. Thay have been sucking that tv screen almost since they were born. Their frontal lobes are like swiss cheese, not necessarily in a literal sense, but in the sense that they have so much rubbish flowing in and out of their minds they lack cognitive structures in the traditional sense of the word. This is supposed to be a newsgroup about book collecting, so it would be nice if the tv droids would migrate to some more appropriate newsgroup. Turn off the tv once in a while. Read a book. [Memo from the upstairs office.] Francis A. Miniter- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - |
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