The new Boy Scout Silver Dollar from the US Mint? Why a girl?

"Mr. Jaggers" lugburzman[at]yahoo[dot]com wrote in message
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Bruce Remick wrote:
"Mr. Jaggers" lugburzman[at]yahoo[dot]com wrote in message
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Bruce Remick wrote:
"tony cooper" wrote in message
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On Fri, 19 Mar 2010 11:41:28 -0400, "Bruce Remick"
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"Bones" wrote in message
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On Mar 19, 1:21 am, MKW wrote:
Can someone tell me again why there is a female featured on the
Boy Scout silver dollar?

You should note that BSA does not have a problem with the coin,
and so why should you. But, here have been females involved with
the "Boy Scouts" for a LONG time.
Examples:
Explorer Posts can, and do, have female members.
Den Mothers are a vitally important part of the Cub Scout system.
When a scout earns the Eagle Badge, it is typically his MOTHER
that presents him with the award.
Girls have sued for, and won, the right to be part of Scout Troops
-- not common, but it does happen.

For these reasons, and more, "Boy Scouts" have called themselves
"Scouts" for more than 30 years. Basically, if it were not for the
involvement and support of females, there would be not such thing
as Scouting.
===========

Aside from spawning sons, it's a stretch to claim that there would
be no such thing as scouting without the involvement and support
of females. Few
would discount the support moms give their sons, but then moms
aren't considered "Scouts" per se and would not likely be
represented by the figure
depicted on the coin in question. Most moms support all types of
activities
and goals of their sons and daughters equally. They typically
served as den
mothers for young Cub Scouts largely because the dad's were
working while afternoon meetings were held. The dads I knew
provided most of their their
support in the evenings and on weekends. IMO, having been a cub
and boy scout back when kids handled knives and guns without
parents having heart failure, I would not expect the design of a
coin celebrating the history of
the Boy Scouts to feature a female on it. On the other hand, a
coin noting
the "progress" of the Boy Scouts as it exists today might, and
apparently does.

Perhaps the design should include an official of the Scouts barring
the door to gays, agnostics, and atheists so the coin would really
reflect the BSA's policies.

Not necessary. Just a Boy Scout and Cub Scout. All the coin needs
to reflect is the light.

Is that a deep cameo proof CAC PQ reflection, or just a low-end MS60
level reflection that you're hoping for?

Most anything would be acceptable as long as it's not a reflection on
me. For some reason, I still have my 1951 BSA registration card which
features a Rockwell-type picture of a Cub Scout, Boy Scout, and what
I presume is a Sea Scout on the front. Maybe the 2010 equivalent
registration card includes some other folks, unless the whole process
is done online now. Imagine teaching young Cubs how to trap and skin
animals today. There go the den mothers.

Norman Rockwell's world exists only in our dreams. Very pleasant dreams,
but dreams nevertheless. The real world of his era was nastier than most
people imagine.

I dunno. I sure identified with a lot of the scenes in his paintings. But
yeah, they're dreams now.

"Mr. Jaggers" wrote:

MKW wrote:
Can someone tell me again why there is a female featured on the Boy
Scout silver dollar? I was at a banquet tonight for Boy Scout
Alumni...and NO one had ever heard of a girl being in the boy
scouts. That really is the dumbest design ever. Nice to see that
committees dictate art that have no clue about the organizations.
And being politically correct is not the same as being inaccurate.

I won't come right out and give away this
Communist/Socialist/Fascist/Atheist/Marxist/Leninist/Stalinist/French-Looking/Sissy/Librul
(pick one or more of your favorites from this list) plot, as it just
wouldn't be sporting of me. But if you'd really, really like to have a clue
about what the girl is doing on the boy scout coin, look up the term
"Venturing" on any good search engine and do some reading. You'll be glad
you did!

James

The Boy Scouts of America's executive board is

Communist/Socialist/Fascist/Atheist/Marxist/Leninist/Stalinist/French-Looking/Sissy/Librul?

JAM

Frank Galikanokus wrote:
"Mr. Jaggers" wrote:

MKW wrote:
Can someone tell me again why there is a female featured on the Boy
Scout silver dollar? I was at a banquet tonight for Boy Scout
Alumni...and NO one had ever heard of a girl being in the boy
scouts. That really is the dumbest design ever. Nice to see that
committees dictate art that have no clue about the organizations.
And being politically correct is not the same as being inaccurate.

I won't come right out and give away this
Communist/Socialist/Fascist/Atheist/Marxist/Leninist/Stalinist/French-Looking/Sissy/Librul
(pick one or more of your favorites from this list) plot, as it just
wouldn't be sporting of me. But if you'd really, really like to
have a clue about what the girl is doing on the boy scout coin, look
up the term "Venturing" on any good search engine and do some
reading. You'll be glad you did!

James

The Boy Scouts of America's executive board is

Communist/Socialist/Fascist/Atheist/Marxist/Leninist/Stalinist/French-Looking/Sissy/Librul?

None of the above. I suppose I shoulda just come right out and given the OP
the answer, but you know me...

James the Irascible

Bruce Remick wrote:
"Mr. Jaggers" lugburzman[at]yahoo[dot]com wrote in message
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Bruce Remick wrote:
"Mr. Jaggers" lugburzman[at]yahoo[dot]com wrote in message
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Bruce Remick wrote:
"tony cooper" wrote in message
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On Fri, 19 Mar 2010 11:41:28 -0400, "Bruce Remick"
wrote:


"Bones" wrote in message
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On Mar 19, 1:21 am, MKW wrote:
Can someone tell me again why there is a female featured on the
Boy Scout silver dollar?

You should note that BSA does not have a problem with the coin,
and so why should you. But, here have been females involved with
the "Boy Scouts" for a LONG time.
Examples:
Explorer Posts can, and do, have female members.
Den Mothers are a vitally important part of the Cub Scout
system. When a scout earns the Eagle Badge, it is typically his
MOTHER that presents him with the award.
Girls have sued for, and won, the right to be part of Scout
Troops -- not common, but it does happen.

For these reasons, and more, "Boy Scouts" have called themselves
"Scouts" for more than 30 years. Basically, if it were not for
the involvement and support of females, there would be not such
thing as Scouting.
===========

Aside from spawning sons, it's a stretch to claim that there
would be no such thing as scouting without the involvement and
support of females. Few
would discount the support moms give their sons, but then moms
aren't considered "Scouts" per se and would not likely be
represented by the figure
depicted on the coin in question. Most moms support all types
of activities
and goals of their sons and daughters equally. They typically
served as den
mothers for young Cub Scouts largely because the dad's were
working while afternoon meetings were held. The dads I knew
provided most of their their
support in the evenings and on weekends. IMO, having been a cub
and boy scout back when kids handled knives and guns without
parents having heart failure, I would not expect the design of a
coin celebrating the history of
the Boy Scouts to feature a female on it. On the other hand, a
coin noting
the "progress" of the Boy Scouts as it exists today might, and
apparently does.

Perhaps the design should include an official of the Scouts
barring the door to gays, agnostics, and atheists so the coin
would really reflect the BSA's policies.

Not necessary. Just a Boy Scout and Cub Scout. All the coin
needs to reflect is the light.

Is that a deep cameo proof CAC PQ reflection, or just a low-end
MS60 level reflection that you're hoping for?

Most anything would be acceptable as long as it's not a reflection
on me. For some reason, I still have my 1951 BSA registration card
which features a Rockwell-type picture of a Cub Scout, Boy Scout,
and what I presume is a Sea Scout on the front. Maybe the 2010
equivalent registration card includes some other folks, unless the
whole process is done online now. Imagine teaching young Cubs how
to trap and skin animals today. There go the den mothers.

Norman Rockwell's world exists only in our dreams. Very pleasant
dreams, but dreams nevertheless. The real world of his era was
nastier than most people imagine.

I dunno. I sure identified with a lot of the scenes in his
paintings. But yeah, they're dreams now.

Oh, I didn't say I didn't identify with them, I'm just sayin' that in
retrospect they were wishful thinking, a fantasy we all wished were true.

On the wall in front of my computer position is a Rockwell print of the SEP
cover of Black Friday, which shows a staid violinist pensively standing near
a music shop counter, where is displayed an alto saxophone and a sign that
reads, "Jazz It Up With A Sax." Now, THAT I CAN relate to!

James "Saxie Dowell" the Contemplative

Yeah but the femal does not represent traditional boy scouts. And the
guys, usually older, at the fundraiser last night would not buy such a
coin.

Okay okay...the girl is fine. The overall sculpting and design are
not the best. Still not even remotely as good as those Scouting
Medals the Franklin Mint struck in 1973...design by Rockwell. This
site has some pics though the reflections hide the frosty details.
http://www.franklin-mint-silver.com/...uts-medals.htm

"MKW" wrote in message
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Can someone tell me again why there is a female featured on the Boy
Scout silver dollar? I was at a banquet tonight for Boy Scout
Alumni...and NO one had ever heard of a girl being in the boy
scouts. That really is the dumbest design ever. Nice to see that
committees dictate art that have no clue about the organizations.
And being politically correct is not the same as being inaccurate.

I got my mint notice of the BSA dollar today and it made me think of Wes.
I'll bet he gets a BSA dollar.
mk
(his wife works for BSA)

MJKolodziej wrote:
"MKW" wrote in message
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Can someone tell me again why there is a female featured on the Boy
Scout silver dollar? I was at a banquet tonight for Boy Scout
Alumni...and NO one had ever heard of a girl being in the boy
scouts. That really is the dumbest design ever. Nice to see that
committees dictate art that have no clue about the organizations.
And being politically correct is not the same as being inaccurate.

I got my mint notice of the BSA dollar today and it made me think of
Wes. I'll bet he gets a BSA dollar.
mk
(his wife works for BSA)

If that's the Wes who used to post here, he recently had an article in the
John Reich Collectors Journal, reporting how he cherried a rare variety of
capped bust half dime off eBay. Lucky guy, that Wes.

James the NVS

On Mar 19, 3:42*am, "Mr. Jaggers" lugburzman[at]yahoo[dot]com wrote:
MKW wrote:
Can someone tell me again why there is a female featured on the Boy
Scout silver dollar? *I was at a banquet tonight for Boy Scout
Alumni...and NO one had ever heard of a girl being in the boy
scouts. * That really is the dumbest design ever. *Nice to see that
committees dictate art that have no clue about the organizations.
And being politically correct is not the same as being inaccurate.

I won't come right out and give away this
Communist/Socialist/Fascist/Atheist/Marxist/Leninist/Stalinist/French-Looking/Sissy/Librul
(pick one or more of your favorites from this list) plot, as it just
wouldn't be sporting of me. *But if you'd really, really like to have a clue
about what the girl is doing on the boy scout coin, look up the term
"Venturing" on any good search engine and do some reading. *You'll be glad
you did!

James

We had girls in our Boy's Scout's troop back in the early 90's. There
wasn't enough girls who were interested in starting a girl's troop.