A grading question

Hi, new to all of this, but I have a lot of cards that the wife and I
have just bought and stored over the years. My question is what are the
different grades of card conditions ie: mint, near mint, and so on.

Any help?
Lou
PS...where would a good place to get them graded be?

please check the hobby info section of www.dacollector.net. I have included
a section on grading & conditions that should help. Your best bet for
grading is BGS, highest $ return in the hobby today.

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"llar" wrote in message
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Hi, new to all of this, but I have a lot of cards that the wife and I
have just bought and stored over the years. My question is what are the
different grades of card conditions ie: mint, near mint, and so on.

Any help?
Lou
PS...where would a good place to get them graded be?

Hi Lou,

Go through "Hobby Info" / "Condition Assistant" on the Da Collector
web sight for a description of the different card grades and
conditions. Or you can see if this link works for you:

http://68.45.204.202/ConditionAssistant.htm

Here's a sight with similar info. It might be a good idea to read it
as well:

http://www.baseballcardbuyer.com/pag...demycards.html

Criteria does vary somewhat. There's no absolute method. One of the
areas that seems to vary the most is with card "centering".

If you choose to have your cards graded and slabbed by a professional
service, PSA and BGS are probably your two best choices. BGS is a
little cheaper. But cards graded by PSA often sell for more, so that
tends to make up for it. They're probably the most universally
respected grading company. Here's a link that describes the top four
grading services:

http://www.tradingcardcentral.com/ar...09_005_001.php

Let us know if you have more questions, after doing a little research.

Ron
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On Sun, 14 Aug 2005 23:49:16 GMT, llar
wrote:

Hi, new to all of this, but I have a lot of cards that the wife and I
have just bought and stored over the years. My question is what are the
different grades of card conditions ie: mint, near mint, and so on.

Any help?
Lou
PS...where would a good place to get them graded be?

Hi, new to all of this, but I have a lot of cards that the wife and I
have just bought and stored over the years. My question is what are the
different grades of card conditions ie: mint, near mint, and so on.

Any help?
Lou
PS...where would a good place to get them graded be?


Are your cards new like after 1975? or older like before then?

Grading Systems Have DISTROYED the hobby.

On 22 Aug 2005 11:02:59 -0700, "Rick Scott"
wrote:

Grading Systems Have DISTROYED the hobby.


How so? My collection is close to 100% raw vintage cards, so your
conclusion doesn't offend me. I'm just curious about your reasoning.

Ron

Let me guess ... Had a bunch of Sam Horn 88 Score & 90 Pro Set FB cards
graded, when they came back 5, 6 & 7's he got mad ...

Usually y people hate grading ... don't understand that it has to be a High
Grade to be valuable, the case guarantees nothing except the condition of
what is in it.

Patrick

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"Ron B." wrote in message
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On 22 Aug 2005 11:02:59 -0700, "Rick Scott"
wrote:

Grading Systems Have DISTROYED the hobby.


How so? My collection is close to 100% raw vintage cards, so your
conclusion doesn't offend me. I'm just curious about your reasoning.

Ron

Let me guess ... Had a bunch of Sam Horn 88 Score & 90 Pro Set FB cards
graded, when they came back 5, 6 & 7's he got mad .

How wrong you could be, I dont use nor ever will use a grading service.
The only thing they have done is Driven the price of cards out of the
Hobby of collecting into the hands of Speculators. People have to
charge the price of the card plus the price of grading now. Also the
Card printers rarely do sets, they all do nothing but Special inserts
or special limited sets and price the packs in the atmousphere.

Its stupid. I know what my card looks like and I know what they are
worth to me as a Collector not a frigging Money grubbing speculator.

Nobody collects for the Love of it anymore. And I cant buy fills
because everyone has their own personal set of grade plus.

I was saying this before when the first company asked about what people
thought about grading. And its a Scam anyway. Want a better grade,
send the card back with extra cash and Poof, better grade.

Its ruined the HOBBY and made it a business.

A lot of collector's have cards graded to preserve them. I have seen some
high grade vintage (50's & 60's). I believe grading is good for the vintage
cards. Preservation of the remaining mints is paramount.

As far as speculation, I don't know if that is really the case. E-Bay has
taught people that the newer stuff may not get the big money unless it is
9.5 or 10. I have certain cards graded and usually keep them for my private
collection. Not because I want to get rich but so my sons can have some
serious Mint & Gem Mint stuff. I only use BGS due to the toughness of their
standards. Next months order to BGS should include a sweet 1961 Topps
Phillies Team Card & a 1954 Eddie Mathews. I am also 3 cards away from a
BGS graded complete set of 2001 Fleer Game Time Fame Time.

I guess everyone has an opinion.

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"Rick Scott" wrote in message
oups.com...
Let me guess ... Had a bunch of Sam Horn 88 Score & 90 Pro Set FB cards
graded, when they came back 5, 6 & 7's he got mad .

How wrong you could be, I dont use nor ever will use a grading service.
The only thing they have done is Driven the price of cards out of the
Hobby of collecting into the hands of Speculators. People have to
charge the price of the card plus the price of grading now. Also the
Card printers rarely do sets, they all do nothing but Special inserts
or special limited sets and price the packs in the atmousphere.

Its stupid. I know what my card looks like and I know what they are
worth to me as a Collector not a frigging Money grubbing speculator.

Nobody collects for the Love of it anymore. And I cant buy fills
because everyone has their own personal set of grade plus.

I was saying this before when the first company asked about what people
thought about grading. And its a Scam anyway. Want a better grade,
send the card back with extra cash and Poof, better grade.

Its ruined the HOBBY and made it a business.

"Rick Scott" wrote in message
ups.com...
Grading Systems Have DISTROYED the hobby.


This is so true. When this was a hobby back in the 1970a to about the mid
1980s people bought/sold/traded for fun because they like sports &
sportscards. In around 1984 when Donruss was hot everyone started to invest
in Mattingly & Strawberry rookies. The next 5 years saw all kinds of stuff
occur from Upper Deck arriving to FB, BSK, HK etc. get hot. Then in the late
80's/90 Alan Hagar started Accu-card which was the 1st card grading company.
He took his knowledge from coin grading and crossed it over. He has made a
lot of $! and at the time i liked his ideas & product. He was like the
inventor so i still congratulate him on his success. At first for a while
the major dealers from Rosen down the line did not like this and said they
would never sell graded cards. after a few of the people started doing it
and getting MORE money than they could non-graded many others followed or
"crossed the picket lines". You have to remember at those times in the card
industry profitbale sales for most people were flat and everyone was just
turning their items over & over and not making much money like it was in the
1984-1989 frenzy. The few people who stayed with grading cards saw the
potential and took advantage of it and now there are many ways to get cards
graded and make money and as well lose money. There really isn't a hobby
anymore. Companies have come & gone and it isn't cheap to produce things
like you use to. Everyone sees grading cards as a gimmick to buy this & that
but in actualality it gives no one a reaosn to collect but to only buy for
what something is possibly worth. People take older cards & trim them since
sizes varied and restore cards and i see them all the time in PSA holders.
Old cards did not have super sharp edges or corners cut by exacto knives and
what is really the worst out of this is the inconsistent grading . I thought
the government would have got involved in the fraud that was and is being
committed with altered graded cards long ago but so far those people still
get away with it and they know what they are doing. What was the hobby in
1990 has lost many good dealers & collectors but since grading ='s $ more
people with $ have kept this thing going some more. It will never die at
once but again people can only afford so much so more people give up buying
only to give wau to some teenager trying to make a $ as the new breed chases
things like Bonds etc. The grading thing after so long sees a very good % of
the market & what is out there and then at some point the rare cards & very
important finds or high grades start seeing stupid $ and people get richer.
Eventually the only people who make money are the graders. It may be 10
years down the road but things are really dead overall unless you get
ungraded older stuff that is truely nrmt/mt from private collectors who
don't do SCD or Rosen type dealers with the big bucks or even Ebay as that
goes. Graded cards desrtoyed this hobby and could never change it back.
Where once it was a hooby , now it is just big business. Everything will
eventually turn into the same thing just like coins & stamps but this time
it will be graded comic books, records & paper money.