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Old September 15th 03, 08:21 PM
4cardzz Van
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Default Anyone having problems w\ Donruss, Playoff, Score.............

Greetings fellow collectors:

I am currently doing battle with Donruss Playoff LLP over a redemption
card that they failed to deliver on, and I could use some help. Is
there anyone who never received the card that they were supposed to
after sending in a redemption to donruss? What company, in your
opinion uses the most redemption cards in their products?

Let me give you a little background inffo: I am not a broad collector,
meaning I only collect cards from a very limited group of people; 6.
My problem with donruss involves a round numbers dual autograph
redemption from 2000 of chad pennington\ plaxico burress. It took
donruss almost 2 years to make the decision that they could not
produce this card because one of the players failed to fullfill his
obligation. In their offer to fullfill with something else included
some boxes of cards from previous years, and a list of single cards
that were redemptions from the past that no one wanted. I felt that
their list should have at least included some cards with the players
from the redemption certificate, but it did not, so I told them I did
not want their crap.

They claim that they use very little redemption cards, and that they
always fulfill everyone that they use. Any feedback is greatly
appericated.

Thanks,
Van

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Old September 18th 03, 04:08 AM
LARGE EYES
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While I feel for you, and believe the companies are somewhat to blame, much of
the blame has to be put on the players. They're the ones refusing to sign (see
SPX from last year...people are just now getting redemptions, still no
Shockeys).
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Old September 18th 03, 09:11 PM
Brad
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What I wonder is if the players already agree to sign before the cards are
printed. It not then, it is in no way the players fault.




"LARGE EYES" wrote in message
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While I feel for you, and believe the companies are somewhat to blame,

much of
the blame has to be put on the players. They're the ones refusing to sign

(see
SPX from last year...people are just now getting redemptions, still no
Shockeys).



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Old September 18th 03, 09:24 PM
Don Ford Lavina, MT
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Well, it's a case of "buyer beware" as always, but the blame has to go
first and foremost to the card companies. While the redemption cards
state something to the effect that if such-and-such specific card
can't be redeemed then we'll give a comperable replacement, it's the
card companies who are leading the collectors to believe they will get
the card they want as a redemption. It should be a case of "put up or
shut up" but it isn't. If a company doesn't have the auto, jersey or
whatever, then they shouldn't give redemptions for it. If they can't
make it for one product, hold it over for another. It's not like the
card companies won't distribute about 75 different issues a year. The
players might be lazy, the teams might not send over the memorbilia,
but it's not the players or the teams making the promises to
collectors - it's the card companies.

(LARGE EYES) wrote in message ...
While I feel for you, and believe the companies are somewhat to blame, much of
the blame has to be put on the players. They're the ones refusing to sign (see
SPX from last year...people are just now getting redemptions, still no
Shockeys).

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Old September 21st 03, 04:32 PM
4cardzz Van
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(Don Ford Lavina, MT) wrote in message . com...
Well, it's a case of "buyer beware" as always, but the blame has to go
first and foremost to the card companies. While the redemption cards
state something to the effect that if such-and-such specific card
can't be redeemed then we'll give a comperable replacement, it's the
card companies who are leading the collectors to believe they will get
the card they want as a redemption. It should be a case of "put up or
shut up" but it isn't. If a company doesn't have the auto, jersey or
whatever, then they shouldn't give redemptions for it. If they can't
make it for one product, hold it over for another. It's not like the
card companies won't distribute about 75 different issues a year. The
players might be lazy, the teams might not send over the memorbilia,
but it's not the players or the teams making the promises to
collectors - it's the card companies.

(LARGE EYES) wrote in message ...
While I feel for you, and believe the companies are somewhat to blame, much of
the blame has to be put on the players. They're the ones refusing to sign (see
SPX from last year...people are just now getting redemptions, still no
Shockeys).


, that is one of my main points that if they
don't have the specific card then leave it out of the product all
together. But let me clatify one, and make another point, you state
that the teams may not send over the merchandise, on time, or the
players may be lazy in signing, both of those are very valid points,
however the card companies are paying for these items thru contracts,
and when they don't get them they just blow it off and the monkey is
then put on the collectors back, and they don't even go after them to
reclaim their money.

Secondly, with respect to the largest producer of redemption cards,
donruss playoff and all of their companies when they can't produce the
card it comes down to " What is a comparable replacement? " So let me
ask this, " Should the offer of replacement include a card from the
player or players mentioned in the redemption card? " I say that it
should, not just a list of generic crap that no one redeemed from
previous releases.
 




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