Indy 500, What Engine Are They Using This Year?

why aren't you driving a Honda then ?
I do have a CB350K, but when it comes to automobiles no thanks.
I can't remember the last vehicle I purchased based on Indy 500 stats but I
suspect it was never.
and get in line behind Chevy, Ford, and Olds...like Ricky and Boob
I still can not understand the scuttling of the Oldsmobile, my
favourite GM division. What were they thinking?

...neither is being called a "hoser," eh?
It has a certain endearment to it though. Probably the same
with ******, eh?

On Mon, 26 May 2008 01:10:35 GMT, "William W Western"
wrote:

I still can not understand the scuttling of the Oldsmobile, my
favourite GM division. What were they thinking? snip

Oldsmobile ceased being Oldsmobile in 1986, last year of any "Rocket"
engines at all. The slide started in 1975, when GM dictated a "slight
of hand" by putting Chevy 350s in SOME Olds Omegas in that year, while
others (the ones with more options) indiscriminately got Olds 350s, a
great engine in comparison.

By the time they got rid of Olds, it was, for the most part, a "badge
engineered" GM ****box, with the now-corporate Buick V6 and faulty
L60E transaxle, indifferent styling and options and other typical GM
trash. Knowing they were in trouble, GM allowed the development of
the slow selling Aurora, which really was quite a nice car, replete
with Cadillac Northstar drivetrain...made in Japan, for the most part.
The Alero and Intrigue were simply rebadged and freshened Chevies, and
the public saw no reason to spend more money for a lesser car. This
is the exact inverse of what Sloan invented in the '30s, when they had
a collection of divisions with distinctively different, price graded
product lines, each with its own independent management, strategies,
designs (to a certain degree) which shared core financial and research
capabilities. It was Roger Smith, GM's worst CEO ever, to complete
the destruction of the Sloan GM business model. Lee Iacocca,
according to his writings, just doesn't get it...after all, since
1958, Mercs were just a gussied up Ford anyway, and he thought GM
products were that way, too. Some engineer HE is.

Update: Mercury probably disappear in two more years as Ford
reorganization continues. Lincoln will continue solo. Ford was never
terribly successful competing against Olds and Buick, as well as
Chrysler, in the "upper priced" field, although the L-M Division had a
big hit with the Mustang-based Cougar in '67 and onward. Reason: Not
all car buyers are stupid about what's inside a car, and most know
that any Merc now is simply a rebadged Ford with more cushy options,
just as almost all Oldses in the '80s and '90s were rebadged Chevies,
just as all Plymouths were essentially stripped down Dodges, and
later, Chryslers. Next brand to fall after Merc: Dodge. After more
sliding sales, Cerberus will cut the lean instead of the fat (which
would be their heads) and gut the Dodge brand as an economy move,
making all Chryslers, Chryslers. Chrysler, of course, has been in big
trouble ever since Iacocca left. Iacocca's biggest finale: The LH
cars...Intrepid, Talon and Concorde...these were really well designed
and hot looking cars with excellent function, for an American car,
much like was the late '80s Ford Taurus, which Iacocca dubbed, "the
potato car." He changes his paradigm as soon as Ford threatened GM in
sales with their "potato car," and Iacocca started making his own.

Once this "fat trimming" in Detroit gets underway, watch for Honda,
Nissan and even Toyota to introduce new "mid-prices" marques to take
their places. Note how Toyota's already done that on the entry market
with the Scion marque, which took the youth market completely away
from Detroit.

GM...the worst there is...an automaker fit only for a turd like
Charlie Nudo.

On May 25, 8:50*pm, DeserTBoB wrote:
On Sun, 25 May 2008 14:36:57 -0700 (PDT), trippin-2-8-track

wrote:
and get in line behind Chevy snip

...in serious sales trouble.

, Ford snip

...in bad shape but turning around, will be profitable in '09

, and Olds snip

Extinct.

...like Ricky and Boob

(laughter...) snip

I like how you make yourself look like a worse idiot every time you
post, Noodles. *


this from the guy that backed Hillary in ' 08

earth to Boob, there's no prize for 3rd place in politics.....

On May 25, 8:48*pm, DeserTBoB wrote:
On Sun, 25 May 2008 14:36:42 -0700 (PDT), kayak44

wrote:
Those who do not learn from history are doomed to repeat it and
Detroit learned nothing from Japan in the 70's and 80's when they got
their rear-ends handed to them, now it's happening all over again.
Detroit's getting all goo-goo about hybrids a full 8 years AFTER
Toyota brought them mainstream. snip

Not only that, but Toyota now has a plant working 3 shifts producing
Priuses (Prii??) and they STILL cannot fill orders fast enough. *In
LA, there is a 60 day wait for either a Prius OR a Honda Accord
Hybrid.



yet you don't have the money to buy one, because you have no job

next question...

On May 25, 8:39*pm, DeserTBoB wrote:
On Sun, 25 May 2008 18:59:22 GMT, "William W Western"

wrote:
what a ****ing joke Honda is
* * * * * * * Zuh? With them being in the winner's circle the last four
years? If Ford and GM are laughing that off it speaks volumes for the state
of North American car building (or society in general). snip

Spot on, good fellow. *The industrious Asians have overcome US
laziness and greed in a scant 30 years, faster than the ruinous
effects of organized religion destroyed the Roman Empire.



there's only ONE car in the world other than a GM worth buying, and
that's a Maserati Ghibli SS

http://www.thecarnut.com/ghibliss.html


V-8

OHC

4-weber 2barrel carbs

you're getting a first-class lesson in automotive taste, DoucheBob

Offenhauser...Edelbrock...et al...all fading memories of the past all
using obsolete and crude technology.


again, DeserTBob has no ****ing clue WTF he's talking about

Edelbrock is going stronger than ever, and building a new sand casting
plant as I post this.

http://www.edelbrocktv.com/video/5741


Offenhauser is a huge company as well

http://www.offenhauser.com/


and they still make over 500 intake manifolds

http://www.exeterautosupply.com/Docs...%20catalog.pdf


do you see why you simply can't believe anything a left-wing kook like
DeserTBob says ? he is stupid, and a liar

of hand" by putting Chevy 350s in SOME Olds Omegas in that year, while
others (the ones with more options) indiscriminately got Olds 350s, a
great engine in comparison.
The public always assumed a GM 350 was the same from division
to division. Even when they weren't. Unless they had brother-in-laws steeped
in Oldsmobile lore, that is. Thanks for the clarification.

Edelbrock is going stronger than ever, and building a new sand casting
plant as I post this.

http://www.edelbrocktv.com/video/5741
Interesting video. Actually nice to see some Yankee "jingoism"
for a change. Good for Vic.

On Mon, 26 May 2008 03:06:48 -0700 (PDT), trippin-2-8-track
wrote:

yet you don't have the money to buy one, because you have no job snip

Hey ginzoboy...I have the solvent assets at hand to buy one
CA$H....just like money only better...something you don't have.

You have to settle for the scraps in life...like a used Saturn
WAAAAAAAAAAAAGON...perv.