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Santa Cruz man tries to make cents of parking tickets, tries to pay with 30,000 pennies
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Photos of Robert Havens loading coins in the back of his car shown on the link below. http://www.santacruzsentinel.com/por...sta rtImage=1 ------------------------------ FROM: http://www.santacruzsentinel.com/ci_10733993?source=rss Santa Cruz man tries to make cents of parking tickets, tries to pay with 30,000 pennies Jennifer Squires Sentinel Staff Writer 10/16/2008 01:31:11 AM PDT SANTA CRUZ -- Robert Havens, 74, had a first recently at the Lee Street home he's lived in for nearly a half-century. He got parking tickets. Havens, a wiry retired tree-trimmer who wears a straw hat and loose Wranglers, has several vehicles that don't all fit in his driveway. So he parks his motor home, dump truck and flat bed on the quiet neighborhood street off Emeline Avenue. A city ordinance states vehicles parked on public streets must be moved every 72 hours -- a rule to prevent people from storing or abandoning their cars on streets -- and Havens said that's a dance he's gotten used to. He said he moves his vehicles every time a city parking officer or police community service officer marks his tires. Havens had escaped parking problems until this fall, when he found three tickets on three vehicles after spending a long weekend visiting his son in Modesto. He claims he was only gone from 4 p.m. on a Friday to 6 a.m. Sunday, but in that time he racked up three $100 parking tickets. He plans to contest the tickets, but the city requires people to pay their parking fines before an appeal hearing is scheduled. So in protest, he tried to pay the fine in pennies Wednesday. "I'm just giving them back a little bit of what I get every week," Havens said. He went to four banks to exchange a portion of his Social Security check for 30,000 pennies, which he delivered to the downtown parking office Wednesday afternoon. Going into it, Havens anticipated a showdown. "I know they're going to have a fit -- for sure," he said before rolling the 180 pounds of pennies the block and a half from his car to the parking office on Locust Street. He even brought a letter citing the Uniform Commercial Code that states pennies are money. "I think pennies are legal tender in the United States and I think they should be accepted," Havens said. "Any government-run operation should have to accept them." After the parking office supervisor Claudia Carlson told him coins weren't an acceptable form of payment -- the office doesn't take loose change, not just Havens' 30,000 pennies -- he reluctantly rolled the dolly of buckets back to his car. "Ha ha, I knew that was coming," Havens said. But his real disappointment was the lack of resolution to the parking problems in his neighborhood. When the pennies weren't accepted, he was given until 5 p.m. Wednesday to pay the $300 fine and decided not to. By not making the payment, Havens' hearing to appeal the tickets wasn't scheduled. He's not sure what will happen next. "I'm going to let it go to the next level, whatever that is," Havens said, speculating that a warrant may be issued for his arrest. "I guess I'll find out." But Havens did make one decision Wednesday: to deposit the pennies in his granddaughter's bank account. Contact Jennifer Squires at 429-2449 or . ... |
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Santa Cruz man tries to make cents of parking tickets, triesto pay with 30,000 pennies
Since when are more than 25 pennies (and nickels for that matter) legal
tender? Arizona Coin Collector wrote: Hello Photos of Robert Havens loading coins in the back of his car shown on the link below. http://www.santacruzsentinel.com/por...sta rtImage=1 ------------------------------ FROM: http://www.santacruzsentinel.com/ci_10733993?source=rss Santa Cruz man tries to make cents of parking tickets, tries to pay with 30,000 pennies Jennifer Squires Sentinel Staff Writer 10/16/2008 01:31:11 AM PDT SANTA CRUZ -- Robert Havens, 74, had a first recently at the Lee Street home he's lived in for nearly a half-century. He got parking tickets. Havens, a wiry retired tree-trimmer who wears a straw hat and loose Wranglers, has several vehicles that don't all fit in his driveway. So he parks his motor home, dump truck and flat bed on the quiet neighborhood street off Emeline Avenue. A city ordinance states vehicles parked on public streets must be moved every 72 hours -- a rule to prevent people from storing or abandoning their cars on streets -- and Havens said that's a dance he's gotten used to. He said he moves his vehicles every time a city parking officer or police community service officer marks his tires. Havens had escaped parking problems until this fall, when he found three tickets on three vehicles after spending a long weekend visiting his son in Modesto. He claims he was only gone from 4 p.m. on a Friday to 6 a.m. Sunday, but in that time he racked up three $100 parking tickets. He plans to contest the tickets, but the city requires people to pay their parking fines before an appeal hearing is scheduled. So in protest, he tried to pay the fine in pennies Wednesday. "I'm just giving them back a little bit of what I get every week," Havens said. He went to four banks to exchange a portion of his Social Security check for 30,000 pennies, which he delivered to the downtown parking office Wednesday afternoon. Going into it, Havens anticipated a showdown. "I know they're going to have a fit -- for sure," he said before rolling the 180 pounds of pennies the block and a half from his car to the parking office on Locust Street. He even brought a letter citing the Uniform Commercial Code that states pennies are money. "I think pennies are legal tender in the United States and I think they should be accepted," Havens said. "Any government-run operation should have to accept them." After the parking office supervisor Claudia Carlson told him coins weren't an acceptable form of payment -- the office doesn't take loose change, not just Havens' 30,000 pennies -- he reluctantly rolled the dolly of buckets back to his car. "Ha ha, I knew that was coming," Havens said. But his real disappointment was the lack of resolution to the parking problems in his neighborhood. When the pennies weren't accepted, he was given until 5 p.m. Wednesday to pay the $300 fine and decided not to. By not making the payment, Havens' hearing to appeal the tickets wasn't scheduled. He's not sure what will happen next. "I'm going to let it go to the next level, whatever that is," Havens said, speculating that a warrant may be issued for his arrest. "I guess I'll find out." But Havens did make one decision Wednesday: to deposit the pennies in his granddaughter's bank account. Contact Jennifer Squires at 429-2449 or . .. |
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Santa Cruz man tries to make cents of parking tickets, tries to pay with 30,000 pennies
""Roßert G. Schaffrath"" wrote in message ... Since when are more than 25 pennies (and nickels for that matter) legal tender? Hello First it should be pointed out the United State Has long abandoned the gold standard and Replace it with Fiat Money. There are no Countries in the word using the gold standard For domestic or international commerce. Below are three section of the United States Constitution that deals with the "coinage" of money. Paper money (green backs), did not really start until 1864 in the United States. The framers of the Constitution wrote this at a time when the Gold Standard was used and accepted for domestic commerce. FROM: http://www.house.gov/house/Constitut...stitution.html Under Articl 1, Section 8 Clause 5: To coin Money, regulate the Value thereof, and of foreign Coin, and fix the Standard of Weights and Measures Clause 6: To provide for the Punishment of counterfeiting the Securities and current Coin of the United States Under Article 1, Section 10 Clause 1: No State shall enter into any Treaty, Alliance, or Confederation; grant Letters of Marque and Reprisal; coin Money; emit Bills of Credit; make any Thing but gold and silver Coin a Tender in Payment of Debts; pass any Bill of Attainder, ex post facto Law, or Law impairing the Obligation of Contracts, or grant any Title of Nobility. Legal Tender definition: Money recognized by law as acceptable payment for debts owed to creditors. In the United States, legal tender (also called lawful money) is all forms of circulating paper money, mostly Federal Reserve Notes, and coins. The term means that money offered as payment has the backing of the government and must be accepted by a creditor, unless a contract calls for another method of payment. Fiat Money definition: Inconvertible money that is made legal tender by the decree, or fiat, of the government but that is not covered by a specie reserve. It is commonly understood to be of paper, although it may also consist of overvalued metal coins. The circulation of fiat money may lead to inflation, whereas money redeemable in gold or other securities is held much less likely to do so. Under conditions of proper monetary management, however, fiat paper money can be a stable currency. In fact, contemporary American money is essentially fiat money. All Federal Reserve notes and most circulating coins are money because the government says they are, not because they are backed by precious metals. Earlier, less stable examples of fiat paper money were the continentals issued by the American government during the Revolutionary War, the assignats issued during the French Revolution, and the greenbacks issued by the U.S. government during the Civil War. Most such issues were accompanied by severe price rises. |
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