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  #51  
Old February 21st 10, 07:26 PM posted to rec.collecting.coins
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"Mr. Jaggers" lugburzman[at]yahoo[dot]com wrote in message
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tony cooper wrote:
On Sat, 20 Feb 2010 19:45:22 -0600, "Mr. Jaggers"
lugburzman[at]yahoo[dot]com wrote:

In all due honesty, I was only on those two usage groups for a short
time, at the end of which I got my hiney chewed royally for my
analysis of the proper sequencing of tenses/moods that was the
subject of a query post. I did it as a relative newbie, from the
point of a classically trained Latin scholar, and that was all it
took.


To give you an idea of how tolerant the group is, I would put the
period at the end of that quote after the closing quotation mark in
violation of the accepted American style. However, because I am
consistent in this, no one has ever Oy'd me on it. It's regarded as a
style choice.


I've had a lot of surprises after reading the latest edition of the
Chicago Manual of Style, which I received as a Christmas gift. A lot of
the rules I learned in school have changed, it seems. For example, we
were taught that one should always capitalize President when referring to
the POTUS. Apparently that is as passé as "23 skiddoo". Or is it
"skiddoo."? "Skiddoo?." Oh, I give up.

James the Indecisive


Is this just when it's a stand-alone noun, or when it's used in a title,
e.g., "President Bill Clinton"?

Having cut my stylistic teeth on the AP Style Manual, I lower-case the noun
but UC the title. I still stumble over the antiquated formalistic
capitalizations that you find in business and legal writing. "The
Corporation observes all Regulations under under the Act as promulgated by
your Agency."

Thankfully, I never had to wrestle with the CMS. Too many of its nit-picky
rules appear to be intended for formal academic and legal requirements or to
please overweening prescriptive grammar kops, and not for everyday use. I
had one nice very old lady as a copy editor who meekly tried to impose CMS
on my scribblings. I politely but firmly ignored most of her suggestions.

- mazorj
"whom ain't got no use for silly speling or grammer rules. or the caps key
EXCEPT ON USENET!!!!!!"


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  #52  
Old February 21st 10, 09:21 PM posted to rec.collecting.coins
Reid Goldsborough[_2_]
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On 2/21/2010 10:56 AM, Mr. Jaggers wrote:

Like you, I sold my collection when I was eighteen, in my case to raise
money for college. I kept only two pieces from that collection, a 1787
British shilling and a Maria Teresa restrike thaler.


Ever go back to Maria? I find these interesting, and they're one of my
areas, though I haven't yet gotten a chance to read or read through the
2005 book A Silver Legend - The Story of the Maria Theresa Thaler by
Clara Semple. On my to-do list. I have read maybe a half dozen journal
articles, and have, let's see, an original 1765 Maria Theresa thaler,
1765, from Hall, Tyrol, KM 746, a 19th century restrike, made in Vienna,
Leypold T4, Hafner 49, and a recent Austrian restrike, KM T1. Miniset. g

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  #53  
Old February 21st 10, 09:27 PM posted to rec.collecting.coins
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"Reid Goldsborough" wrote in message
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On 2/21/2010 10:56 AM, Mr. Jaggers wrote:

Like you, I sold my collection when I was eighteen, in my case to raise
money for college. I kept only two pieces from that collection, a 1787
British shilling and a Maria Teresa restrike thaler.


Ever go back to Maria? I find these interesting, and they're one of my areas,
though I haven't yet gotten a chance to read or read through the 2005 book A
Silver Legend - The Story of the Maria Theresa Thaler by Clara Semple. On my
to-do list. I have read maybe a half dozen journal articles, and have, let's
see, an original 1765 Maria Theresa thaler, 1765, from Hall, Tyrol, KM 746, a
19th century restrike, made in Vienna, Leypold T4, Hafner 49, and a recent
Austrian restrike, KM T1. Miniset. g


Why the need for the g?
You didn't say anything even remotely humorous.
Or is just you being your typical fatuous ass?


  #54  
Old February 21st 10, 09:29 PM posted to rec.collecting.coins
Reid Goldsborough[_2_]
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On 2/21/2010 12:33 PM, Nick Knight wrote:
, on 02/20/2010
at 10:29 PM, "Clyde babbled:

Ahhhhhhhh shaddup, you festering gob of conceit.


Perfect. Another one for the bit bucket.


This is one tactic. I guess it works for you. What I do, typically, is
engage those who flame and bait, but briefly before ignoring it, mostly
ignoring it. Right now Bruce Remick seems to be the lead flamebaiter,
but others have served this role in the past, responding as he has done
recently to every post or most posts with flame junk, just being
disruptive, trying to sabotage threads, then as he's doing now trying to
explain it away by saying they're engaging in some kind of high art.

Sometimes you get sucked in, and drawn down, to their depth, into the
sewer, or I do anyway. Others have been attacked in a similarly
obsessive way here over the years, Ira, Frank, Fred, and so on. As I
said I believe it's the flame junk combined with the excessive off-topic
chat about the weather and such that's the chief reason Usenet is in
such decline. Still, you pick out the nuggets, and there are some, still
making it worthwhile to check things out once in a while. And as others
have pointed out, there are differences among different newsgroups, but
as far as I have seen, and as reported by others as well, this is the
general trend.

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  #55  
Old February 21st 10, 09:59 PM posted to rec.collecting.coins
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"Reid Goldsborough" wrote in message
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Sometimes you get sucked in, and drawn down, to their depth, into the sewer,
or I do anyway.


Goldie, old top, the sewer would be a step UP for you.
Have a nice day.


  #57  
Old February 21st 10, 11:01 PM posted to rec.collecting.coins
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In article , "Nick Knight" wrote:
In , on 02/20/2010
at 11:32 PM, tony cooper said:

"Skiddoo?." Oh, I give up.

Or "whom", for that matter.


Well, I guess this is better than the Latin tangent of awhile back. Yeah, I
guess.

Nick

caveat empty?
(ok, i swiped that from john brunner.)
  #58  
Old February 21st 10, 11:16 PM posted to rec.collecting.coins
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in wrote:
In article , "Mr. Jaggers"
lugburzman[at]yahoo[dot]com wrote:
Reid Goldsborough wrote:
On 2/21/2010 12:28 AM,
in wrote:

i had to get all the walkers. 3 times....then i grew up, kept one
set of the best, though i did keep the keys from the other 2.
meaning just the 21's and obverse mint mark. and the 38 d's.

Walkers are a very cool series. Big coins, silver, extremely
attractive, among the three most beautifully designed of all U.S.
coins, I'd say, and unlike the others much more affordable. If you
had posted this when I was a kid I probably would have tried
something similar. g
I sold off all of my collection as a teenager when I stopped
collecting. Wish I hadn't. I feel especially bad about selling my
grandfather's silver dollars. My mother was mildly piqued at my
doing that but only mildly. I wish today I had kept at least one. I
got little for all of it. Took it to the local coin shop where I had
bought a lot of stuff previously. All he did was talk everything
down. I knew what he was doing but didn't want to spend the time
shopping the coins around so I just took the money and ran. Dumb
kid.


Like you, I sold my collection when I was eighteen, in my case to
raise money for college. I kept only two pieces from that
collection, a 1787 British shilling and a Maria Teresa restrike
thaler. Those were enough "seed" to gnaw at me until a couple of
decades later when I started all over again.

I like to think that I made *most* of my collecting errors as a kid,
but reality dictates otherwise.

James the Only Somewhat Reconstructed


don't forget what flaubert said.


Qu'est-ce que Gustave a dit?

Jacques


  #59  
Old February 21st 10, 11:20 PM posted to rec.collecting.coins
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mazorj wrote:
"Mr. Jaggers" lugburzman[at]yahoo[dot]com wrote in message
...
tony cooper wrote:
On Sat, 20 Feb 2010 19:45:22 -0600, "Mr. Jaggers"
lugburzman[at]yahoo[dot]com wrote:

In all due honesty, I was only on those two usage groups for a
short time, at the end of which I got my hiney chewed royally for
my analysis of the proper sequencing of tenses/moods that was the
subject of a query post. I did it as a relative newbie, from the
point of a classically trained Latin scholar, and that was all it
took.

To give you an idea of how tolerant the group is, I would put the
period at the end of that quote after the closing quotation mark in
violation of the accepted American style. However, because I am
consistent in this, no one has ever Oy'd me on it. It's regarded
as a style choice.


I've had a lot of surprises after reading the latest edition of the
Chicago Manual of Style, which I received as a Christmas gift. A
lot of the rules I learned in school have changed, it seems. For
example, we were taught that one should always capitalize President
when referring to the POTUS. Apparently that is as passé as "23
skiddoo". Or is it "skiddoo."? "Skiddoo?." Oh, I give up.

James the Indecisive


Is this just when it's a stand-alone noun, or when it's used in a
title, e.g., "President Bill Clinton"?

Having cut my stylistic teeth on the AP Style Manual, I lower-case
the noun but UC the title. I still stumble over the antiquated
formalistic capitalizations that you find in business and legal
writing. "The Corporation observes all Regulations under under the
Act as promulgated by your Agency."

Thankfully, I never had to wrestle with the CMS. Too many of its
nit-picky rules appear to be intended for formal academic and legal
requirements or to please overweening prescriptive grammar kops, and
not for everyday use. I had one nice very old lady as a copy editor
who meekly tried to impose CMS on my scribblings. I politely but
firmly ignored most of her suggestions.
- mazorj
"whom ain't got no use for silly speling or grammer rules. or the
caps key EXCEPT ON USENET!!!!!!"


Well, damn!

James the Profane


  #60  
Old February 21st 10, 11:27 PM posted to rec.collecting.coins
Mr. Jaggers
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Reid Goldsborough wrote:
On 2/21/2010 10:56 AM, Mr. Jaggers wrote:

Like you, I sold my collection when I was eighteen, in my case to
raise money for college. I kept only two pieces from that
collection, a 1787 British shilling and a Maria Teresa restrike
thaler.


Ever go back to Maria? I find these interesting, and they're one of my
areas, though I haven't yet gotten a chance to read or read through
the 2005 book A Silver Legend - The Story of the Maria Theresa Thaler
by Clara Semple. On my to-do list. I have read maybe a half dozen
journal articles, and have, let's see, an original 1765 Maria Theresa
thaler, 1765, from Hall, Tyrol, KM 746, a 19th century restrike, made
in Vienna, Leypold T4, Hafner 49, and a recent Austrian restrike, KM
T1. Miniset. g


Not sure what you mean by "going back" to Maria, but the coin I kept from
that old collection was/is toned a beautiful light bluish around the
periphery on both sides (I had it and the shilling stored in a Sucrets
tin!), just a hint on the interior, and I take it out and cartwheel it in
the light every time I visit. I also managed to acquire an original, I
think it's Craig 50, that has very nice toning as well.

I assume you know of the websites that deal with the MTT.

James


 




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