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Old August 7th 04, 09:39 PM
fon
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another

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...m=3827235 323

at $80



"fon" wrote in message
...
here check it out for yourself


http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...m=3827445 423


"dahoov2" wrote in message
...
Dave Prowse signed here for 20.00 US which is just over 11 pounds for
you... weird huh? He flies all the way across the ocean out of his
own country and charges LESS?! They sell for 15-25 here usually, but
in US dollars... so there's a big difference. A lot cheaper for you
to buy here than us to buy there.

At Celebration, autographs were 12.00 each US. But they were limited
and collectible; so they got more in auctions because 1) they were so
cheap and 2) there were a TON of guests (over 40) and so you could
collect them all.... and a lot of people wanted to do that. For a
while, they were selling from 30-150 each and now you can get them
half that depending on who it is you're getting (Fisher and Williams
sell higher).

Anyway, don't let me or anyone here tell you what you should do. If
you want to sell them go ahead. Now you know all the fees involved and
can judge better; and maybe some idea of what'll sell and what
won't... and of that guy who sold 5, WHAT did he sell? Something very
popular and rarer or something common... take that into consideration
too.


On Sat, 7 Aug 2004 16:45:34 +0100, "fon"
wrote:

A slighty different subject. What prices do guests tend to charge in

the
US.
Here £15 is pretty standard and £20 is seen more and more. I've even

seen
Dave Prowse sign for £25 which is about $45. I know we have a high

exchange
rate but the prices here are going mad. I hear at collectamania there

maybe
a few £25 ones.

You said about bookmarking the page. In the last 2 weeks I've seen him

sell
about 5. I will be honest and say I was looking at going next week for

1
autograph and thought after seeing his web site that if I could sell a

few
at a price which I didn't thnk was to bad it would help cover my costs.

Not
to MAKE money but help my costs. I've seen your posts and understand

and
probably agree with everything you have said. I didn't think about it
enough, I didn't work out the costs fully. I made a mistake and am

honest
enough to say that. I didn't intend to go out and rip people off.

Looking
at
my ebay listing the way I worded it sucked really and it wasn't fully

done
well.

In October we have 30 starwars guest who will be charging between £15

and
£25 even if all 30 charged £15 that makes £450, close to about $800.

How
much were the charges at Celebration II last year.


Jason
"dahoov2" wrote in message
.. .
bookmark that and note there are 17 buy it nows. Keep track and see
how many he sells... that's all I have to say. This will be your
guide to whether what you are doing is a good idea or not. But one
word of advice if I may. If you are doing it to make money and NOT
just to help collectors... then be honest. those are prices to make
money; not just to help your buddies.

That's why some celebs stop signing... they see that like you saw it,
get the absurd notion their sigs are worth that much and see dollar
signs and never sign again for free... thereby ending the joy of
collecting. There is no joy to paying 60.00 for an elf who was on
screen two seconds with no lines. At least not for me. I feel all I
am doing in lining someone's pockets when outside the little LOTR
community, nobody even knows who the hell those guys are! Imagine
telling your neighbor who saw the film but does not know the names of
the actors and asks you about your autograph. Here's the conversation
I hear:

(Friend) wow, cool! That's from LOTR?

(You) Yeah, I bought it from a guy who got it for me at a convention

(Friend) So you didn't meet him? How much did you pay for it if you
don't mind my asking?

(You) No, I didn't meet him. Paid 60. for it

(Friend) that's a lot, but it's from LOTR right? Say, where in the
movie was he again? I can't remember

(You) he was the guy in the battle scene on the wall ... remember
that? He was the fifth guy in the back... you can see his face a
little after so and so say....

(friend) (I will leave this to your own imagination; I am sure
there's a varying about of explitive and other things to insert here)

When prices were 10 or 15 US dollars, it was tolerable. they went to
20 and were getting pricy with shipping. Now, it's just plain
RIDICULOUS. The buck stops here.


On Sat, 7 Aug 2004 15:46:17 +0100, "fon"
wrote:

click on this link if you thought I was expensive...




http://cgi6.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dl...userid=finalfr

o
ntieruk&include=0&since=-1&sort=3&rows=50



"fon" wrote in message
...
Your points are very valued as as you can tell this was going to

be
my
first
time. Only 2 things if I may add to what you have said. The first

I
was
going to sent the photo insured which I guess is more then £2

(again
only
guessing) and secondly like I pointed out in my first post I'm

only
going
for the Jeremy Bulloch signed book so I have to travel close to

250
miles
and an entrance fee of £10 plus an absurd car park fee of £8. I am

the
first
to admit that I didn't look into it fully and rushed things a bit

but
the
event is next saturday.

Can I please add that if I had got things cheaper then then next

one
would
have been cheaper. It was a first attemp and caused a lot of

upset.

Jason
"dahoov2" wrote in message
...
On Sat, 07 Aug 2004 09:36:04 -0400, dahoov2

wrote:

Here for reference is Ebays Fees:

Starting Price,
Opening Value or
Reserve Price Insertion Fee
$0.01 - $0.99 $0.30
$1.00 - $9.99 $0.35
$10.00 - $24.99 $0.60
$25.00 - $49.99 $1.20
$50.00 - $199.99 $2.40
$200.00 - $499.99 $3.60
$500.00 and up $4.80

Your fee is 35 cents

Reserve fees:
Reserve Price Reserve Price Auction Fee
$0.01 - $49.99 $1.00
$50.00 - $199.99 $2.00
$200.00 and up 1% of Reserve Price (with a maximum of $100.00)

Did you have one?

Photo fees:
Feature Fee
First picture FREE!
Each additional Picture $0.15
Preview Picture Free
Slide Show $0.75
Supersize Image $0.75
Picture Pack $1.00 (a $1.75 value) for up to 6 pictures or

$1.50
for

Yours was free I believe you only had one

Special things (I don't think you had anything -you may have

had
buy
it now, but that's only 5 cents)
Listing Upgrade Listing Upgrade Fee
Home Page Featured $39.95 (single quantity) or $79.95 (quantity

of 2
or more)
Featured Plus! $19.95
Highlight $5.00
Border $3.00
Item Subtitle $0.50
Bold $1.00
Listing Designer* $0.10
Gallery $0.25
Gallery Featured $19.95
List in Two Categories Double the insertion and listing

upgrades
fees
(excluding Scheduled Listings and Home Page Featured).
10-Day Duration
The longest listing duration available $0.20
Scheduled Listings $0.10
Buy It Now $0.05
Gift Services $0.25
* No Listing Designer fee for Selling Manager Pro subscribers.
Return to top

eBay Motors Listing Upgrade Fee
Motors Gallery Featured $99.95 for vehicles
$24.95 for non-vehicles
Highlight $5.00
Bold $4.00 for vehicles
$1.00 for non-vehicles
Border $4 for Vehicles
$3 for Parts & Accessories
Listing Designer Not available for vehicles
$0.10 for non-vehicles
Gallery FREE for vehicles
$0.25 non-vehicles
Featured Plus! $19.95
List in Two Categories Not Available for Motors
Listing Icon $2.00 for vehicles
$1.00 for non-vehicles
10-Day Duration
The longest listing duration available $5.00 for all vehicle
listings
Buy It Now $1.00 for all vehicle listings
$0.05 for non-vehicles


Pay Pal Fees:
Open an Account
Send Money Free Free
Withdraw Funds Free for U.S. bank accounts
Fees for international banks Free for U.S. bank accounts
Fees for international banks
Add funds Free for U.S. bank accounts
Fees for international banks Free for U.S. bank accounts
Fees for international banks
Receive Funds Free Standard Rate: 2.9% + 30¢*
Merchant Rate: 2.2% + 30¢*

There is a conversion fee for overseas conversion of 1% Total

is
3.9%
plus 30 cents. Always comes bout 4-5% for me depending on

price
sold
for.

I guess you do have some fees and you are adding in a couple

pounds
for your troubles...

Maybe Ebay wasn't the way to go to help collectors? Just a

thought.
That's more a dealer tool I think but I guess if you are paying
15-20
pounds per autograph, adding say 5 pounds for you would mean

20-25
pounds, add that to (let's assume you had a generic listing fee

with
Buy it now) 40 cents your total is 22 pence (at 1.8 conversion)

you
are at 20.22 -25.22 plus your 30 cent pay pal (17P) you are at
20.39-25.39 plus your 3.9 (assuming you are converting funds

and
paying that extra 1%) is 80 cents (44p) - 99 cents (55p). You

are
at
20.83 or 25.94 in pounds..... add a pound for toploader?

that's
21.83
or 25.94 and I'd round up. One standard 8x10 in a toploader

from
the
UK to the US is? Can someone give a price from recent. Lets

say
one
pound whic is not 22.83-26.94. plus shiiping, No more than 2

pounds
at
most? I've put 4 68p stamps on which was too much and it was

fine.
so total 24.83-28.94 in pounds. Let's round up, giving you a

small
margin for error and you're at 25-29 pounds for an autograph

with
packing, shipping, fees and whatnot. Based on an exchange rate

of
1.80 US dollar per pound, you're talking expensive but better

than
60.00 ... 45 US dollars to 52 dollars and 20 cents. Still
megabucks
for no names.....

should be 26.94 not 25.94 (first reference)

Hope this helped people here; I know those fees add up! That's

why
I
do generic listings and ask people not to pay Pay Pal. By the

way,
for sellers, Bid Pay is free. It's the opposite...buyers pay a
money
order fee and it's sent to the seller (but takes a couple

days).
Cheapest way to go is money order but international ones can be
expensive. And you have to be sure you do it in the money of
whatever
country is accepting it.

Anyway, the exchange rate here is absurd when dealing with the

UK
and
I think that's the major part where the problem is. I don't

think
you
were being absurd too much, it is more of the whole price in

the
end
for a bunch of common people, people who did at least once sign

free
or who didn't even have more than 2 seconds in the movie with

no
lines!

If you were talking about someone GOOD, then maybe it'd not

have
seemed so bad!



By adding your 5 pounds in for yourself, you're not going to

lose
money. If it costs a few pence more for shipping or toploader,

you
are
still making a nice little profit per item.


On Sat, 7 Aug 2004 09:26:09 +0100, "fon"

wrote:

I am very sorry to all offended by my post. I have removed the
listing
from
ebay and will not be listing one for a pre order again.
I stated in a previous post that I wasn't in it for the money

but
to
help
cover my costs of traveling to and from etc.

I did post at the end of my previous post asking if someone

could
give
me
todds website but no one replied. This is however not an

excuse.

BDRX did reply to my previous post and said be prepared to

lose
money
at
first. I'm not in a position where I can lose money so thats

where
the
$60
came from. I did notice from the ebay listing I made one extra
mistake
and I
added that postage was $5 but when in fact it was included. I

based
the
price on a £20 autograph. Ebay listing fee and total price

fee.
Paypal
fee.
Postage to where ever. Toploader. Plus and again this wasn't

clear
I
was
going to have the photo of the guest with your photo printed

off
at
a
local
shop not on my computer so you would have a great COA.

I really am sorry that I offended people on here and I

certainly
didn't
intend to do that. I've had 2 nasty e-mails in the last few

hours
containing
words to the effect of 'money grabbing w****r' 'f*****g nob'

and
would
hope
this stop. Also in the last hour someone e-mailed asking could

I
get
an
autograph for them but my ansewer is no as I probably won't go

now.

If you feel that I have offended you that much please reply to

this
post
and
I won't post on this newsgroup again. I've made a few friends

on
here
and
sorry if I've spoiled that.


Jason



"dahoov2" wrote in message
. ..
Sorry, but 80.00 for a common signature, a person who was an
extra
withno lines or who signs free, is ridiculous. That's just

my
opinion, but if you get that much; good luck! 60.00 is

crazy
too.
But hey, as others say here, I don't have to buy.

You weren't really explanatory enough I guess; you sounded

like
you
didn't want to profit, wanted to help collectors, but really

even
if
an autograph cost 20 pounds, that's no more than 35-38

dollars.
With
Top loader and mail and extra fee, you are making still more
profit
than most of the dealers!

How are autographs sold by dealers anyway? If one gets

them
free
but
the value is 20 say in the guides, do people list like that

or
what
they wish they can get? I think most list like that or lower

and
let
the publuc decide. For you though, you'll have to pay for

the
autographs so they must start at least at that price plus
shipping
(and no one can demand you send in a toploader; would be

hice,
but
I've shipped and had shipped to me in plastic sleeves with
cardboard
backing-it's cheaper) On your auction, they'll decide too.

Would
be
curious if anyone goes for it.

I guess you should have said you will do it to make money.

Not
to
help collectors. Be forthright. At least if you are, at

least
people
won't accuse you of lying or hiding something. The most

they
can
say
is like I did, that you are charging a little bit much....

For
me
at
leat, you seemed misleading. I thought you were gonna be

like
Todd
was
and just charge a couple extra bucks for the time and

effort.

I can't advise you on canceling your auction or changing

your
prices
or anything; that's for you to decide. You should'nt let

people
here
persude you on that. However, you might read some of the

Ebay
rules
so that you don't get into trouble. As you have seen here,

some
people would seemingly turn you in.......................

I'd
of
emailed you offlist to warn you as a couresy if I'd of seen

it.
I
assumed from your posts, you were never evil intended about
anything.
So you have nothing to be sorry for; people should not be
emailing
you
off list to harrass you either. Advice is one thing; grief

is
quite
another.

On Sat, 7 Aug 2004 04:08:41 +0100, "fon"

wrote:



This is where the idea come from and he cahrges $80 per

signing.

http://www.finalfrontiertoys.co.uk/


He sells loads via ebay

Jason



"fon" wrote in message
...
I've been collecting at cons for a few years and TTM a

few
months.
My
feedback is 179 because in the last 6 months I've sold my

LOTR
trading
card
collection and my Video collection. If you check the

items
that
I've
sold
none are anything to do with autographs.

If I've caused upset then I'm sorry and will remove the

ebay
auction
when
I
get home from work. I didn't mean to cause anyone any

grief.
I've had a few nasty e-mails in the last few hours which

has
been
a
little
upsetting so I'm not going to bother. This was going to

be
a
trial
price
to
see how it went. I didn't want to go to Birminham next

week
and
LOSE
money
but I can asure you the price would have come down by
Collectamania
once I
had worked out shipped and top loader prices etc.

Last off how do I cancel an item on ebay.

Jason

"dahoov2" wrote in message
...
Well, he seemed to be asking for help in all the

previoius
posts... I
see that he's sold... this is bothering me now. Think

I
might
have
been hoodwinked? Have been emailed offlist a lot to

help
and
get
advice, so wonder what's up now.

So Fon, how long HAVE you been collecting?

On 6 Aug 2004 19:40:08 -0500, Autograph Collector
wrote:

dahoov2 wrote:

Both of you are not very nice. I doubt anyone will

pay
that
much
for
common names such as those. I thought in your

original
post
you
said you were not out to get money. These people

charge
15-20
pounds
at most per sig at this convention. Even with

shipping
and
a
small
fee, that's a lot of extra money. But then again, I
guess
if
people
want to pay, who am I to say. I just think you

portrayed
yourself
different in earlier posts and I wonder if I can

trust
you
now!
Also, you appear to be selling one item, to one

person.
I
don't
see
multiples offered or a limit...Ebay isn't gonna like
that!

Autograph collector is right... that's skirting

Ebay's
rules
and
you
can be kicked off...

However, the person that posted this is a newbie;

you
didn't
have
to
go and report him. You could've emailed and told

him
privately
first
before posting it publicly.... and let him know.

Newbie? They sell all the time on eBay and have a

feedback
rating
of
179. They're no newbie.

AC



www.starwarsautographcollecting.com
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  #22  
Old August 7th 04, 09:43 PM
fon
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and another who you guys say is easy to get
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...tem=3814832009


again at $80

"fon" wrote in message
...
another


http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...m=3827235 323

at $80



"fon" wrote in message
...
here check it out for yourself



http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...m=3827445 423


"dahoov2" wrote in message
...
Dave Prowse signed here for 20.00 US which is just over 11 pounds for
you... weird huh? He flies all the way across the ocean out of his
own country and charges LESS?! They sell for 15-25 here usually, but
in US dollars... so there's a big difference. A lot cheaper for you
to buy here than us to buy there.

At Celebration, autographs were 12.00 each US. But they were limited
and collectible; so they got more in auctions because 1) they were so
cheap and 2) there were a TON of guests (over 40) and so you could
collect them all.... and a lot of people wanted to do that. For a
while, they were selling from 30-150 each and now you can get them
half that depending on who it is you're getting (Fisher and Williams
sell higher).

Anyway, don't let me or anyone here tell you what you should do. If
you want to sell them go ahead. Now you know all the fees involved and
can judge better; and maybe some idea of what'll sell and what
won't... and of that guy who sold 5, WHAT did he sell? Something very
popular and rarer or something common... take that into consideration
too.


On Sat, 7 Aug 2004 16:45:34 +0100, "fon"
wrote:

A slighty different subject. What prices do guests tend to charge in

the
US.
Here £15 is pretty standard and £20 is seen more and more. I've even

seen
Dave Prowse sign for £25 which is about $45. I know we have a high

exchange
rate but the prices here are going mad. I hear at collectamania there

maybe
a few £25 ones.

You said about bookmarking the page. In the last 2 weeks I've seen

him
sell
about 5. I will be honest and say I was looking at going next week

for
1
autograph and thought after seeing his web site that if I could sell

a
few
at a price which I didn't thnk was to bad it would help cover my

costs.
Not
to MAKE money but help my costs. I've seen your posts and understand

and
probably agree with everything you have said. I didn't think about it
enough, I didn't work out the costs fully. I made a mistake and am

honest
enough to say that. I didn't intend to go out and rip people off.

Looking
at
my ebay listing the way I worded it sucked really and it wasn't fully

done
well.

In October we have 30 starwars guest who will be charging between £15

and
£25 even if all 30 charged £15 that makes £450, close to about $800.

How
much were the charges at Celebration II last year.


Jason
"dahoov2" wrote in message
.. .
bookmark that and note there are 17 buy it nows. Keep track and

see
how many he sells... that's all I have to say. This will be your
guide to whether what you are doing is a good idea or not. But one
word of advice if I may. If you are doing it to make money and NOT
just to help collectors... then be honest. those are prices to

make
money; not just to help your buddies.

That's why some celebs stop signing... they see that like you saw

it,
get the absurd notion their sigs are worth that much and see dollar
signs and never sign again for free... thereby ending the joy of
collecting. There is no joy to paying 60.00 for an elf who was on
screen two seconds with no lines. At least not for me. I feel all

I
am doing in lining someone's pockets when outside the little LOTR
community, nobody even knows who the hell those guys are! Imagine
telling your neighbor who saw the film but does not know the names

of
the actors and asks you about your autograph. Here's the

conversation
I hear:

(Friend) wow, cool! That's from LOTR?

(You) Yeah, I bought it from a guy who got it for me at a

convention

(Friend) So you didn't meet him? How much did you pay for it if

you
don't mind my asking?

(You) No, I didn't meet him. Paid 60. for it

(Friend) that's a lot, but it's from LOTR right? Say, where in the
movie was he again? I can't remember

(You) he was the guy in the battle scene on the wall ... remember
that? He was the fifth guy in the back... you can see his face a
little after so and so say....

(friend) (I will leave this to your own imagination; I am sure
there's a varying about of explitive and other things to insert

here)

When prices were 10 or 15 US dollars, it was tolerable. they went

to
20 and were getting pricy with shipping. Now, it's just plain
RIDICULOUS. The buck stops here.


On Sat, 7 Aug 2004 15:46:17 +0100, "fon"


wrote:

click on this link if you thought I was expensive...





http://cgi6.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dl...userid=finalfr
o
ntieruk&include=0&since=-1&sort=3&rows=50



"fon" wrote in message
...
Your points are very valued as as you can tell this was going to

be
my
first
time. Only 2 things if I may add to what you have said. The

first
I
was
going to sent the photo insured which I guess is more then £2

(again
only
guessing) and secondly like I pointed out in my first post I'm

only
going
for the Jeremy Bulloch signed book so I have to travel close to

250
miles
and an entrance fee of £10 plus an absurd car park fee of £8. I

am
the
first
to admit that I didn't look into it fully and rushed things a

bit
but
the
event is next saturday.

Can I please add that if I had got things cheaper then then next

one
would
have been cheaper. It was a first attemp and caused a lot of

upset.

Jason
"dahoov2" wrote in message
...
On Sat, 07 Aug 2004 09:36:04 -0400, dahoov2

wrote:

Here for reference is Ebays Fees:

Starting Price,
Opening Value or
Reserve Price Insertion Fee
$0.01 - $0.99 $0.30
$1.00 - $9.99 $0.35
$10.00 - $24.99 $0.60
$25.00 - $49.99 $1.20
$50.00 - $199.99 $2.40
$200.00 - $499.99 $3.60
$500.00 and up $4.80

Your fee is 35 cents

Reserve fees:
Reserve Price Reserve Price Auction Fee
$0.01 - $49.99 $1.00
$50.00 - $199.99 $2.00
$200.00 and up 1% of Reserve Price (with a maximum of

$100.00)

Did you have one?

Photo fees:
Feature Fee
First picture FREE!
Each additional Picture $0.15
Preview Picture Free
Slide Show $0.75
Supersize Image $0.75
Picture Pack $1.00 (a $1.75 value) for up to 6 pictures or

$1.50
for

Yours was free I believe you only had one

Special things (I don't think you had anything -you may have

had
buy
it now, but that's only 5 cents)
Listing Upgrade Listing Upgrade Fee
Home Page Featured $39.95 (single quantity) or $79.95

(quantity
of 2
or more)
Featured Plus! $19.95
Highlight $5.00
Border $3.00
Item Subtitle $0.50
Bold $1.00
Listing Designer* $0.10
Gallery $0.25
Gallery Featured $19.95
List in Two Categories Double the insertion and listing

upgrades
fees
(excluding Scheduled Listings and Home Page Featured).
10-Day Duration
The longest listing duration available $0.20
Scheduled Listings $0.10
Buy It Now $0.05
Gift Services $0.25
* No Listing Designer fee for Selling Manager Pro

subscribers.
Return to top

eBay Motors Listing Upgrade Fee
Motors Gallery Featured $99.95 for vehicles
$24.95 for non-vehicles
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There is a conversion fee for overseas conversion of 1% Total

is
3.9%
plus 30 cents. Always comes bout 4-5% for me depending on

price
sold
for.

I guess you do have some fees and you are adding in a couple

pounds
for your troubles...

Maybe Ebay wasn't the way to go to help collectors? Just a

thought.
That's more a dealer tool I think but I guess if you are

paying
15-20
pounds per autograph, adding say 5 pounds for you would mean

20-25
pounds, add that to (let's assume you had a generic listing

fee
with
Buy it now) 40 cents your total is 22 pence (at 1.8

conversion)
you
are at 20.22 -25.22 plus your 30 cent pay pal (17P) you are

at
20.39-25.39 plus your 3.9 (assuming you are converting funds

and
paying that extra 1%) is 80 cents (44p) - 99 cents (55p).

You
are
at
20.83 or 25.94 in pounds..... add a pound for toploader?

that's
21.83
or 25.94 and I'd round up. One standard 8x10 in a toploader

from
the
UK to the US is? Can someone give a price from recent. Lets

say
one
pound whic is not 22.83-26.94. plus shiiping, No more than 2

pounds
at
most? I've put 4 68p stamps on which was too much and it was

fine.
so total 24.83-28.94 in pounds. Let's round up, giving you a

small
margin for error and you're at 25-29 pounds for an autograph

with
packing, shipping, fees and whatnot. Based on an exchange

rate
of
1.80 US dollar per pound, you're talking expensive but better

than
60.00 ... 45 US dollars to 52 dollars and 20 cents. Still
megabucks
for no names.....

should be 26.94 not 25.94 (first reference)

Hope this helped people here; I know those fees add up!

That's
why
I
do generic listings and ask people not to pay Pay Pal. By

the
way,
for sellers, Bid Pay is free. It's the opposite...buyers pay

a
money
order fee and it's sent to the seller (but takes a couple

days).
Cheapest way to go is money order but international ones can

be
expensive. And you have to be sure you do it in the money of
whatever
country is accepting it.

Anyway, the exchange rate here is absurd when dealing with

the
UK
and
I think that's the major part where the problem is. I don't

think
you
were being absurd too much, it is more of the whole price in

the
end
for a bunch of common people, people who did at least once

sign
free
or who didn't even have more than 2 seconds in the movie with

no
lines!

If you were talking about someone GOOD, then maybe it'd not

have
seemed so bad!



By adding your 5 pounds in for yourself, you're not going to

lose
money. If it costs a few pence more for shipping or toploader,

you
are
still making a nice little profit per item.


On Sat, 7 Aug 2004 09:26:09 +0100, "fon"

wrote:

I am very sorry to all offended by my post. I have removed

the
listing
from
ebay and will not be listing one for a pre order again.
I stated in a previous post that I wasn't in it for the

money
but
to
help
cover my costs of traveling to and from etc.

I did post at the end of my previous post asking if someone

could
give
me
todds website but no one replied. This is however not an

excuse.

BDRX did reply to my previous post and said be prepared to

lose
money
at
first. I'm not in a position where I can lose money so thats

where
the
$60
came from. I did notice from the ebay listing I made one

extra
mistake
and I
added that postage was $5 but when in fact it was included.

I
based
the
price on a £20 autograph. Ebay listing fee and total price

fee.
Paypal
fee.
Postage to where ever. Toploader. Plus and again this wasn't

clear
I
was
going to have the photo of the guest with your photo printed

off
at
a
local
shop not on my computer so you would have a great COA.

I really am sorry that I offended people on here and I

certainly
didn't
intend to do that. I've had 2 nasty e-mails in the last few

hours
containing
words to the effect of 'money grabbing w****r' 'f*****g

nob'
and
would
hope
this stop. Also in the last hour someone e-mailed asking

could
I
get
an
autograph for them but my ansewer is no as I probably won't

go
now.

If you feel that I have offended you that much please reply

to
this
post
and
I won't post on this newsgroup again. I've made a few

friends
on
here
and
sorry if I've spoiled that.


Jason



"dahoov2" wrote in message
. ..
Sorry, but 80.00 for a common signature, a person who was

an
extra
withno lines or who signs free, is ridiculous. That's

just
my
opinion, but if you get that much; good luck! 60.00 is

crazy
too.
But hey, as others say here, I don't have to buy.

You weren't really explanatory enough I guess; you sounded

like
you
didn't want to profit, wanted to help collectors, but

really
even
if
an autograph cost 20 pounds, that's no more than 35-38

dollars.
With
Top loader and mail and extra fee, you are making still

more
profit
than most of the dealers!

How are autographs sold by dealers anyway? If one gets

them
free
but
the value is 20 say in the guides, do people list like

that
or
what
they wish they can get? I think most list like that or

lower
and
let
the publuc decide. For you though, you'll have to pay for

the
autographs so they must start at least at that price plus
shipping
(and no one can demand you send in a toploader; would be

hice,
but
I've shipped and had shipped to me in plastic sleeves with
cardboard
backing-it's cheaper) On your auction, they'll decide too.

Would
be
curious if anyone goes for it.

I guess you should have said you will do it to make

money.
Not
to
help collectors. Be forthright. At least if you are, at

least
people
won't accuse you of lying or hiding something. The most

they
can
say
is like I did, that you are charging a little bit much....

For
me
at
leat, you seemed misleading. I thought you were gonna be

like
Todd
was
and just charge a couple extra bucks for the time and

effort.

I can't advise you on canceling your auction or changing

your
prices
or anything; that's for you to decide. You should'nt let

people
here
persude you on that. However, you might read some of the

Ebay
rules
so that you don't get into trouble. As you have seen

here,
some
people would seemingly turn you in.......................

I'd
of
emailed you offlist to warn you as a couresy if I'd of

seen
it.
I
assumed from your posts, you were never evil intended

about
anything.
So you have nothing to be sorry for; people should not be
emailing
you
off list to harrass you either. Advice is one thing;

grief
is
quite
another.

On Sat, 7 Aug 2004 04:08:41 +0100, "fon"

wrote:



This is where the idea come from and he cahrges $80 per

signing.

http://www.finalfrontiertoys.co.uk/


He sells loads via ebay

Jason



"fon" wrote in message
...
I've been collecting at cons for a few years and TTM a

few
months.
My
feedback is 179 because in the last 6 months I've sold

my
LOTR
trading
card
collection and my Video collection. If you check the

items
that
I've
sold
none are anything to do with autographs.

If I've caused upset then I'm sorry and will remove the

ebay
auction
when
I
get home from work. I didn't mean to cause anyone any

grief.
I've had a few nasty e-mails in the last few hours

which
has
been
a
little
upsetting so I'm not going to bother. This was going to

be
a
trial
price
to
see how it went. I didn't want to go to Birminham next

week
and
LOSE
money
but I can asure you the price would have come down by
Collectamania
once I
had worked out shipped and top loader prices etc.

Last off how do I cancel an item on ebay.

Jason

"dahoov2" wrote in message
...
Well, he seemed to be asking for help in all the

previoius
posts... I
see that he's sold... this is bothering me now.

Think
I
might
have
been hoodwinked? Have been emailed offlist a lot to

help
and
get
advice, so wonder what's up now.

So Fon, how long HAVE you been collecting?

On 6 Aug 2004 19:40:08 -0500, Autograph Collector
wrote:

dahoov2 wrote:

Both of you are not very nice. I doubt anyone

will
pay
that
much
for
common names such as those. I thought in your

original
post
you
said you were not out to get money. These people

charge
15-20
pounds
at most per sig at this convention. Even with

shipping
and
a
small
fee, that's a lot of extra money. But then again,

I
guess
if
people
want to pay, who am I to say. I just think you

portrayed
yourself
different in earlier posts and I wonder if I can

trust
you
now!
Also, you appear to be selling one item, to one

person.
I
don't
see
multiples offered or a limit...Ebay isn't gonna

like
that!

Autograph collector is right... that's skirting

Ebay's
rules
and
you
can be kicked off...

However, the person that posted this is a newbie;

you
didn't
have
to
go and report him. You could've emailed and told

him
privately
first
before posting it publicly.... and let him know.

Newbie? They sell all the time on eBay and have a

feedback
rating
of
179. They're no newbie.

AC



www.starwarsautographcollecting.com
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http://dahoov2.topcities.com



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http://dahoov2.topcities.com






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  #23  
Old August 7th 04, 09:50 PM
dahoov2
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Don't have to convince me... if you want to do this, go ahead. Like I
said a bazillion times already; if you think someone will buy go for
it. But I sure as hell not pay that much! Moakare's card from Topps
isn't getting much. It's plummeted recently ... I've seen several
sell in the 20-25 range and suspect, as time goes on, he will be like
Warwick Davis, Bulloch and Prowse............. making their living at
this and can't even sell ones you bought for $10 later on. Just like
some of the ones I had.... no one interested at they're plentiful and
a dime a dozen.


On Sat, 7 Aug 2004 21:43:40 +0100, "fon"
wrote:

and another who you guys say is easy to get
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...tem=3814832009


again at $80

"fon" wrote in message
...
another


http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...m=3827235 323

at $80



"fon" wrote in message
...
here check it out for yourself



http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...m=3827445 423


"dahoov2" wrote in message
...
Dave Prowse signed here for 20.00 US which is just over 11 pounds for
you... weird huh? He flies all the way across the ocean out of his
own country and charges LESS?! They sell for 15-25 here usually, but
in US dollars... so there's a big difference. A lot cheaper for you
to buy here than us to buy there.

At Celebration, autographs were 12.00 each US. But they were limited
and collectible; so they got more in auctions because 1) they were so
cheap and 2) there were a TON of guests (over 40) and so you could
collect them all.... and a lot of people wanted to do that. For a
while, they were selling from 30-150 each and now you can get them
half that depending on who it is you're getting (Fisher and Williams
sell higher).

Anyway, don't let me or anyone here tell you what you should do. If
you want to sell them go ahead. Now you know all the fees involved and
can judge better; and maybe some idea of what'll sell and what
won't... and of that guy who sold 5, WHAT did he sell? Something very
popular and rarer or something common... take that into consideration
too.


On Sat, 7 Aug 2004 16:45:34 +0100, "fon"
wrote:

A slighty different subject. What prices do guests tend to charge in

the
US.
Here £15 is pretty standard and £20 is seen more and more. I've even

seen
Dave Prowse sign for £25 which is about $45. I know we have a high
exchange
rate but the prices here are going mad. I hear at collectamania there
maybe
a few £25 ones.

You said about bookmarking the page. In the last 2 weeks I've seen

him
sell
about 5. I will be honest and say I was looking at going next week

for
1
autograph and thought after seeing his web site that if I could sell

a
few
at a price which I didn't thnk was to bad it would help cover my

costs.
Not
to MAKE money but help my costs. I've seen your posts and understand

and
probably agree with everything you have said. I didn't think about it
enough, I didn't work out the costs fully. I made a mistake and am

honest
enough to say that. I didn't intend to go out and rip people off.

Looking
at
my ebay listing the way I worded it sucked really and it wasn't fully
done
well.

In October we have 30 starwars guest who will be charging between £15

and
£25 even if all 30 charged £15 that makes £450, close to about $800.

How
much were the charges at Celebration II last year.


Jason
"dahoov2" wrote in message
.. .
bookmark that and note there are 17 buy it nows. Keep track and

see
how many he sells... that's all I have to say. This will be your
guide to whether what you are doing is a good idea or not. But one
word of advice if I may. If you are doing it to make money and NOT
just to help collectors... then be honest. those are prices to

make
money; not just to help your buddies.

That's why some celebs stop signing... they see that like you saw

it,
get the absurd notion their sigs are worth that much and see dollar
signs and never sign again for free... thereby ending the joy of
collecting. There is no joy to paying 60.00 for an elf who was on
screen two seconds with no lines. At least not for me. I feel all

I
am doing in lining someone's pockets when outside the little LOTR
community, nobody even knows who the hell those guys are! Imagine
telling your neighbor who saw the film but does not know the names

of
the actors and asks you about your autograph. Here's the

conversation
I hear:

(Friend) wow, cool! That's from LOTR?

(You) Yeah, I bought it from a guy who got it for me at a

convention

(Friend) So you didn't meet him? How much did you pay for it if

you
don't mind my asking?

(You) No, I didn't meet him. Paid 60. for it

(Friend) that's a lot, but it's from LOTR right? Say, where in the
movie was he again? I can't remember

(You) he was the guy in the battle scene on the wall ... remember
that? He was the fifth guy in the back... you can see his face a
little after so and so say....

(friend) (I will leave this to your own imagination; I am sure
there's a varying about of explitive and other things to insert

here)

When prices were 10 or 15 US dollars, it was tolerable. they went

to
20 and were getting pricy with shipping. Now, it's just plain
RIDICULOUS. The buck stops here.


On Sat, 7 Aug 2004 15:46:17 +0100, "fon"


wrote:

click on this link if you thought I was expensive...





http://cgi6.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dl...userid=finalfr
o
ntieruk&include=0&since=-1&sort=3&rows=50



"fon" wrote in message
...
Your points are very valued as as you can tell this was going to

be
my
first
time. Only 2 things if I may add to what you have said. The

first
I
was
going to sent the photo insured which I guess is more then £2

(again
only
guessing) and secondly like I pointed out in my first post I'm

only
going
for the Jeremy Bulloch signed book so I have to travel close to

250
miles
and an entrance fee of £10 plus an absurd car park fee of £8. I

am
the
first
to admit that I didn't look into it fully and rushed things a

bit
but
the
event is next saturday.

Can I please add that if I had got things cheaper then then next

one
would
have been cheaper. It was a first attemp and caused a lot of

upset.

Jason
"dahoov2" wrote in message
...
On Sat, 07 Aug 2004 09:36:04 -0400, dahoov2
wrote:

Here for reference is Ebays Fees:

Starting Price,
Opening Value or
Reserve Price Insertion Fee
$0.01 - $0.99 $0.30
$1.00 - $9.99 $0.35
$10.00 - $24.99 $0.60
$25.00 - $49.99 $1.20
$50.00 - $199.99 $2.40
$200.00 - $499.99 $3.60
$500.00 and up $4.80

Your fee is 35 cents

Reserve fees:
Reserve Price Reserve Price Auction Fee
$0.01 - $49.99 $1.00
$50.00 - $199.99 $2.00
$200.00 and up 1% of Reserve Price (with a maximum of

$100.00)

Did you have one?

Photo fees:
Feature Fee
First picture FREE!
Each additional Picture $0.15
Preview Picture Free
Slide Show $0.75
Supersize Image $0.75
Picture Pack $1.00 (a $1.75 value) for up to 6 pictures or

$1.50
for

Yours was free I believe you only had one

Special things (I don't think you had anything -you may have

had
buy
it now, but that's only 5 cents)
Listing Upgrade Listing Upgrade Fee
Home Page Featured $39.95 (single quantity) or $79.95

(quantity
of 2
or more)
Featured Plus! $19.95
Highlight $5.00
Border $3.00
Item Subtitle $0.50
Bold $1.00
Listing Designer* $0.10
Gallery $0.25
Gallery Featured $19.95
List in Two Categories Double the insertion and listing

upgrades
fees
(excluding Scheduled Listings and Home Page Featured).
10-Day Duration
The longest listing duration available $0.20
Scheduled Listings $0.10
Buy It Now $0.05
Gift Services $0.25
* No Listing Designer fee for Selling Manager Pro

subscribers.
Return to top

eBay Motors Listing Upgrade Fee
Motors Gallery Featured $99.95 for vehicles
$24.95 for non-vehicles
Highlight $5.00
Bold $4.00 for vehicles
$1.00 for non-vehicles
Border $4 for Vehicles
$3 for Parts & Accessories
Listing Designer Not available for vehicles
$0.10 for non-vehicles
Gallery FREE for vehicles
$0.25 non-vehicles
Featured Plus! $19.95
List in Two Categories Not Available for Motors
Listing Icon $2.00 for vehicles
$1.00 for non-vehicles
10-Day Duration
The longest listing duration available $5.00 for all vehicle
listings
Buy It Now $1.00 for all vehicle listings
$0.05 for non-vehicles


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Send Money Free Free
Withdraw Funds Free for U.S. bank accounts
Fees for international banks Free for U.S. bank accounts
Fees for international banks
Add funds Free for U.S. bank accounts
Fees for international banks Free for U.S. bank accounts
Fees for international banks
Receive Funds Free Standard Rate: 2.9% + 30¢*
Merchant Rate: 2.2% + 30¢*

There is a conversion fee for overseas conversion of 1% Total

is
3.9%
plus 30 cents. Always comes bout 4-5% for me depending on

price
sold
for.

I guess you do have some fees and you are adding in a couple
pounds
for your troubles...

Maybe Ebay wasn't the way to go to help collectors? Just a
thought.
That's more a dealer tool I think but I guess if you are

paying
15-20
pounds per autograph, adding say 5 pounds for you would mean
20-25
pounds, add that to (let's assume you had a generic listing

fee
with
Buy it now) 40 cents your total is 22 pence (at 1.8

conversion)
you
are at 20.22 -25.22 plus your 30 cent pay pal (17P) you are

at
20.39-25.39 plus your 3.9 (assuming you are converting funds

and
paying that extra 1%) is 80 cents (44p) - 99 cents (55p).

You
are
at
20.83 or 25.94 in pounds..... add a pound for toploader?

that's
21.83
or 25.94 and I'd round up. One standard 8x10 in a toploader
from
the
UK to the US is? Can someone give a price from recent. Lets

say
one
pound whic is not 22.83-26.94. plus shiiping, No more than 2
pounds
at
most? I've put 4 68p stamps on which was too much and it was
fine.
so total 24.83-28.94 in pounds. Let's round up, giving you a
small
margin for error and you're at 25-29 pounds for an autograph

with
packing, shipping, fees and whatnot. Based on an exchange

rate
of
1.80 US dollar per pound, you're talking expensive but better
than
60.00 ... 45 US dollars to 52 dollars and 20 cents. Still
megabucks
for no names.....

should be 26.94 not 25.94 (first reference)

Hope this helped people here; I know those fees add up!

That's
why
I
do generic listings and ask people not to pay Pay Pal. By

the
way,
for sellers, Bid Pay is free. It's the opposite...buyers pay

a
money
order fee and it's sent to the seller (but takes a couple

days).
Cheapest way to go is money order but international ones can

be
expensive. And you have to be sure you do it in the money of
whatever
country is accepting it.

Anyway, the exchange rate here is absurd when dealing with

the
UK
and
I think that's the major part where the problem is. I don't
think
you
were being absurd too much, it is more of the whole price in

the
end
for a bunch of common people, people who did at least once

sign
free
or who didn't even have more than 2 seconds in the movie with

no
lines!

If you were talking about someone GOOD, then maybe it'd not

have
seemed so bad!



By adding your 5 pounds in for yourself, you're not going to

lose
money. If it costs a few pence more for shipping or toploader,

you
are
still making a nice little profit per item.


On Sat, 7 Aug 2004 09:26:09 +0100, "fon"

wrote:

I am very sorry to all offended by my post. I have removed

the
listing
from
ebay and will not be listing one for a pre order again.
I stated in a previous post that I wasn't in it for the

money
but
to
help
cover my costs of traveling to and from etc.

I did post at the end of my previous post asking if someone
could
give
me
todds website but no one replied. This is however not an

excuse.

BDRX did reply to my previous post and said be prepared to

lose
money
at
first. I'm not in a position where I can lose money so thats
where
the
$60
came from. I did notice from the ebay listing I made one

extra
mistake
and I
added that postage was $5 but when in fact it was included.

I
based
the
price on a £20 autograph. Ebay listing fee and total price

fee.
Paypal
fee.
Postage to where ever. Toploader. Plus and again this wasn't
clear
I
was
going to have the photo of the guest with your photo printed

off
at
a
local
shop not on my computer so you would have a great COA.

I really am sorry that I offended people on here and I

certainly
didn't
intend to do that. I've had 2 nasty e-mails in the last few
hours
containing
words to the effect of 'money grabbing w****r' 'f*****g

nob'
and
would
hope
this stop. Also in the last hour someone e-mailed asking

could
I
get
an
autograph for them but my ansewer is no as I probably won't

go
now.

If you feel that I have offended you that much please reply

to
this
post
and
I won't post on this newsgroup again. I've made a few

friends
on
here
and
sorry if I've spoiled that.


Jason



"dahoov2" wrote in message
. ..
Sorry, but 80.00 for a common signature, a person who was

an
extra
withno lines or who signs free, is ridiculous. That's

just
my
opinion, but if you get that much; good luck! 60.00 is

crazy
too.
But hey, as others say here, I don't have to buy.

You weren't really explanatory enough I guess; you sounded
like
you
didn't want to profit, wanted to help collectors, but

really
even
if
an autograph cost 20 pounds, that's no more than 35-38
dollars.
With
Top loader and mail and extra fee, you are making still

more
profit
than most of the dealers!

How are autographs sold by dealers anyway? If one gets

them
free
but
the value is 20 say in the guides, do people list like

that
or
what
they wish they can get? I think most list like that or

lower
and
let
the publuc decide. For you though, you'll have to pay for

the
autographs so they must start at least at that price plus
shipping
(and no one can demand you send in a toploader; would be

hice,
but
I've shipped and had shipped to me in plastic sleeves with
cardboard
backing-it's cheaper) On your auction, they'll decide too.
Would
be
curious if anyone goes for it.

I guess you should have said you will do it to make

money.
Not
to
help collectors. Be forthright. At least if you are, at
least
people
won't accuse you of lying or hiding something. The most

they
can
say
is like I did, that you are charging a little bit much....

For
me
at
leat, you seemed misleading. I thought you were gonna be

like
Todd
was
and just charge a couple extra bucks for the time and

effort.

I can't advise you on canceling your auction or changing

your
prices
or anything; that's for you to decide. You should'nt let
people
here
persude you on that. However, you might read some of the

Ebay
rules
so that you don't get into trouble. As you have seen

here,
some
people would seemingly turn you in.......................

I'd
of
emailed you offlist to warn you as a couresy if I'd of

seen
it.
I
assumed from your posts, you were never evil intended

about
anything.
So you have nothing to be sorry for; people should not be
emailing
you
off list to harrass you either. Advice is one thing;

grief
is
quite
another.

On Sat, 7 Aug 2004 04:08:41 +0100, "fon"

wrote:



This is where the idea come from and he cahrges $80 per
signing.

http://www.finalfrontiertoys.co.uk/


He sells loads via ebay

Jason



"fon" wrote in message
...
I've been collecting at cons for a few years and TTM a

few
months.
My
feedback is 179 because in the last 6 months I've sold

my
LOTR
trading
card
collection and my Video collection. If you check the

items
that
I've
sold
none are anything to do with autographs.

If I've caused upset then I'm sorry and will remove the
ebay
auction
when
I
get home from work. I didn't mean to cause anyone any
grief.
I've had a few nasty e-mails in the last few hours

which
has
been
a
little
upsetting so I'm not going to bother. This was going to

be
a
trial
price
to
see how it went. I didn't want to go to Birminham next

week
and
LOSE
money
but I can asure you the price would have come down by
Collectamania
once I
had worked out shipped and top loader prices etc.

Last off how do I cancel an item on ebay.

Jason

"dahoov2" wrote in message
...
Well, he seemed to be asking for help in all the
previoius
posts... I
see that he's sold... this is bothering me now.

Think
I
might
have
been hoodwinked? Have been emailed offlist a lot to

help
and
get
advice, so wonder what's up now.

So Fon, how long HAVE you been collecting?

On 6 Aug 2004 19:40:08 -0500, Autograph Collector
wrote:

dahoov2 wrote:

Both of you are not very nice. I doubt anyone

will
pay
that
much
for
common names such as those. I thought in your
original
post
you
said you were not out to get money. These people
charge
15-20
pounds
at most per sig at this convention. Even with
shipping
and
a
small
fee, that's a lot of extra money. But then again,

I
guess
if
people
want to pay, who am I to say. I just think you
portrayed
yourself
different in earlier posts and I wonder if I can

trust
you
now!
Also, you appear to be selling one item, to one
person.
I
don't
see
multiples offered or a limit...Ebay isn't gonna

like
that!

Autograph collector is right... that's skirting

Ebay's
rules
and
you
can be kicked off...

However, the person that posted this is a newbie;

you
didn't
have
to
go and report him. You could've emailed and told

him
privately
first
before posting it publicly.... and let him know.

Newbie? They sell all the time on eBay and have a
feedback
rating
of
179. They're no newbie.

AC



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  #24  
Old August 8th 04, 12:52 AM
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At celebration was it $12 each even for people like carrie fisher. That
seemed like a great deal because you could probably buy one of each for less
then $500. The celebration photos are very nice as I've started to buy then
I even bought a carrie Fisher off you a few months ago which is one of my
prized autographs.
But we are having 30 Guests here and looking to pay at least double that,
something is wrong somewhere. You make an even stronger point when you say
most of the small roles come from the UK. Sometimes I find the guest is just
sat there most of the day because eveyone has already got your autograph.
The was a pretty good guest announced last night that I'm not sure if your
aware of and thats Gary Kurtz. He hasn't done much over here so will
probably be a £20 man
"dahoov2" wrote in message
...
Don't have to convince me... if you want to do this, go ahead. Like I
said a bazillion times already; if you think someone will buy go for
it. But I sure as hell not pay that much! Moakare's card from Topps
isn't getting much. It's plummeted recently ... I've seen several
sell in the 20-25 range and suspect, as time goes on, he will be like
Warwick Davis, Bulloch and Prowse............. making their living at
this and can't even sell ones you bought for $10 later on. Just like
some of the ones I had.... no one interested at they're plentiful and
a dime a dozen.


On Sat, 7 Aug 2004 21:43:40 +0100, "fon"
wrote:

and another who you guys say is easy to get
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...tem=3814832009


again at $80

"fon" wrote in message
...
another



http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...em=3827235 32

3

at $80



"fon" wrote in message
...
here check it out for yourself




http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...em=3827445 42

3


"dahoov2" wrote in message
...
Dave Prowse signed here for 20.00 US which is just over 11 pounds

for
you... weird huh? He flies all the way across the ocean out of his
own country and charges LESS?! They sell for 15-25 here usually,

but
in US dollars... so there's a big difference. A lot cheaper for

you
to buy here than us to buy there.

At Celebration, autographs were 12.00 each US. But they were

limited
and collectible; so they got more in auctions because 1) they were

so
cheap and 2) there were a TON of guests (over 40) and so you could
collect them all.... and a lot of people wanted to do that. For a
while, they were selling from 30-150 each and now you can get them
half that depending on who it is you're getting (Fisher and

Williams
sell higher).

Anyway, don't let me or anyone here tell you what you should do. If
you want to sell them go ahead. Now you know all the fees involved

and
can judge better; and maybe some idea of what'll sell and what
won't... and of that guy who sold 5, WHAT did he sell? Something

very
popular and rarer or something common... take that into

consideration
too.


On Sat, 7 Aug 2004 16:45:34 +0100, "fon"


wrote:

A slighty different subject. What prices do guests tend to charge

in
the
US.
Here £15 is pretty standard and £20 is seen more and more. I've

even
seen
Dave Prowse sign for £25 which is about $45. I know we have a high
exchange
rate but the prices here are going mad. I hear at collectamania

there
maybe
a few £25 ones.

You said about bookmarking the page. In the last 2 weeks I've seen

him
sell
about 5. I will be honest and say I was looking at going next week

for
1
autograph and thought after seeing his web site that if I could

sell
a
few
at a price which I didn't thnk was to bad it would help cover my

costs.
Not
to MAKE money but help my costs. I've seen your posts and

understand
and
probably agree with everything you have said. I didn't think about

it
enough, I didn't work out the costs fully. I made a mistake and am
honest
enough to say that. I didn't intend to go out and rip people off.
Looking
at
my ebay listing the way I worded it sucked really and it wasn't

fully
done
well.

In October we have 30 starwars guest who will be charging between

£15
and
£25 even if all 30 charged £15 that makes £450, close to about

$800.
How
much were the charges at Celebration II last year.


Jason
"dahoov2" wrote in message
.. .
bookmark that and note there are 17 buy it nows. Keep track and

see
how many he sells... that's all I have to say. This will be

your
guide to whether what you are doing is a good idea or not. But

one
word of advice if I may. If you are doing it to make money and

NOT
just to help collectors... then be honest. those are prices to

make
money; not just to help your buddies.

That's why some celebs stop signing... they see that like you

saw
it,
get the absurd notion their sigs are worth that much and see

dollar
signs and never sign again for free... thereby ending the joy of
collecting. There is no joy to paying 60.00 for an elf who was

on
screen two seconds with no lines. At least not for me. I feel

all
I
am doing in lining someone's pockets when outside the little

LOTR
community, nobody even knows who the hell those guys are!

Imagine
telling your neighbor who saw the film but does not know the

names
of
the actors and asks you about your autograph. Here's the

conversation
I hear:

(Friend) wow, cool! That's from LOTR?

(You) Yeah, I bought it from a guy who got it for me at a

convention

(Friend) So you didn't meet him? How much did you pay for it if

you
don't mind my asking?

(You) No, I didn't meet him. Paid 60. for it

(Friend) that's a lot, but it's from LOTR right? Say, where in

the
movie was he again? I can't remember

(You) he was the guy in the battle scene on the wall ...

remember
that? He was the fifth guy in the back... you can see his face

a
little after so and so say....

(friend) (I will leave this to your own imagination; I am

sure
there's a varying about of explitive and other things to insert

here)

When prices were 10 or 15 US dollars, it was tolerable. they

went
to
20 and were getting pricy with shipping. Now, it's just plain
RIDICULOUS. The buck stops here.


On Sat, 7 Aug 2004 15:46:17 +0100, "fon"


wrote:

click on this link if you thought I was expensive...






http://cgi6.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dl...&userid=finalf

r
o
ntieruk&include=0&since=-1&sort=3&rows=50



"fon" wrote in message
...
Your points are very valued as as you can tell this was going

to
be
my
first
time. Only 2 things if I may add to what you have said. The

first
I
was
going to sent the photo insured which I guess is more then £2
(again
only
guessing) and secondly like I pointed out in my first post

I'm
only
going
for the Jeremy Bulloch signed book so I have to travel close

to
250
miles
and an entrance fee of £10 plus an absurd car park fee of £8.

I
am
the
first
to admit that I didn't look into it fully and rushed things a

bit
but
the
event is next saturday.

Can I please add that if I had got things cheaper then then

next
one
would
have been cheaper. It was a first attemp and caused a lot of
upset.

Jason
"dahoov2" wrote in message
...
On Sat, 07 Aug 2004 09:36:04 -0400, dahoov2


wrote:

Here for reference is Ebays Fees:

Starting Price,
Opening Value or
Reserve Price Insertion Fee
$0.01 - $0.99 $0.30
$1.00 - $9.99 $0.35
$10.00 - $24.99 $0.60
$25.00 - $49.99 $1.20
$50.00 - $199.99 $2.40
$200.00 - $499.99 $3.60
$500.00 and up $4.80

Your fee is 35 cents

Reserve fees:
Reserve Price Reserve Price Auction Fee
$0.01 - $49.99 $1.00
$50.00 - $199.99 $2.00
$200.00 and up 1% of Reserve Price (with a maximum of

$100.00)

Did you have one?

Photo fees:
Feature Fee
First picture FREE!
Each additional Picture $0.15
Preview Picture Free
Slide Show $0.75
Supersize Image $0.75
Picture Pack $1.00 (a $1.75 value) for up to 6 pictures or
$1.50
for

Yours was free I believe you only had one

Special things (I don't think you had anything -you may

have
had
buy
it now, but that's only 5 cents)
Listing Upgrade Listing Upgrade Fee
Home Page Featured $39.95 (single quantity) or $79.95

(quantity
of 2
or more)
Featured Plus! $19.95
Highlight $5.00
Border $3.00
Item Subtitle $0.50
Bold $1.00
Listing Designer* $0.10
Gallery $0.25
Gallery Featured $19.95
List in Two Categories Double the insertion and listing
upgrades
fees
(excluding Scheduled Listings and Home Page Featured).
10-Day Duration
The longest listing duration available $0.20
Scheduled Listings $0.10
Buy It Now $0.05
Gift Services $0.25
* No Listing Designer fee for Selling Manager Pro

subscribers.
Return to top

eBay Motors Listing Upgrade Fee
Motors Gallery Featured $99.95 for vehicles
$24.95 for non-vehicles
Highlight $5.00
Bold $4.00 for vehicles
$1.00 for non-vehicles
Border $4 for Vehicles
$3 for Parts & Accessories
Listing Designer Not available for vehicles
$0.10 for non-vehicles
Gallery FREE for vehicles
$0.25 non-vehicles
Featured Plus! $19.95
List in Two Categories Not Available for Motors
Listing Icon $2.00 for vehicles
$1.00 for non-vehicles
10-Day Duration
The longest listing duration available $5.00 for all

vehicle
listings
Buy It Now $1.00 for all vehicle listings
$0.05 for non-vehicles


Pay Pal Fees:
Open an Account
Send Money Free Free
Withdraw Funds Free for U.S. bank accounts
Fees for international banks Free for U.S. bank accounts
Fees for international banks
Add funds Free for U.S. bank accounts
Fees for international banks Free for U.S. bank accounts
Fees for international banks
Receive Funds Free Standard Rate: 2.9% + 30¢*
Merchant Rate: 2.2% + 30¢*

There is a conversion fee for overseas conversion of 1%

Total
is
3.9%
plus 30 cents. Always comes bout 4-5% for me depending on
price
sold
for.

I guess you do have some fees and you are adding in a

couple
pounds
for your troubles...

Maybe Ebay wasn't the way to go to help collectors? Just

a
thought.
That's more a dealer tool I think but I guess if you are

paying
15-20
pounds per autograph, adding say 5 pounds for you would

mean
20-25
pounds, add that to (let's assume you had a generic

listing
fee
with
Buy it now) 40 cents your total is 22 pence (at 1.8

conversion)
you
are at 20.22 -25.22 plus your 30 cent pay pal (17P) you

are
at
20.39-25.39 plus your 3.9 (assuming you are converting

funds
and
paying that extra 1%) is 80 cents (44p) - 99 cents (55p).

You
are
at
20.83 or 25.94 in pounds..... add a pound for toploader?
that's
21.83
or 25.94 and I'd round up. One standard 8x10 in a

toploader
from
the
UK to the US is? Can someone give a price from recent.

Lets
say
one
pound whic is not 22.83-26.94. plus shiiping, No more than

2
pounds
at
most? I've put 4 68p stamps on which was too much and it

was
fine.
so total 24.83-28.94 in pounds. Let's round up, giving

you a
small
margin for error and you're at 25-29 pounds for an

autograph
with
packing, shipping, fees and whatnot. Based on an exchange

rate
of
1.80 US dollar per pound, you're talking expensive but

better
than
60.00 ... 45 US dollars to 52 dollars and 20 cents.

Still
megabucks
for no names.....

should be 26.94 not 25.94 (first reference)

Hope this helped people here; I know those fees add up!

That's
why
I
do generic listings and ask people not to pay Pay Pal. By

the
way,
for sellers, Bid Pay is free. It's the opposite...buyers

pay
a
money
order fee and it's sent to the seller (but takes a couple
days).
Cheapest way to go is money order but international ones

can
be
expensive. And you have to be sure you do it in the money

of
whatever
country is accepting it.

Anyway, the exchange rate here is absurd when dealing with

the
UK
and
I think that's the major part where the problem is. I

don't
think
you
were being absurd too much, it is more of the whole price

in
the
end
for a bunch of common people, people who did at least once

sign
free
or who didn't even have more than 2 seconds in the movie

with
no
lines!

If you were talking about someone GOOD, then maybe it'd

not
have
seemed so bad!



By adding your 5 pounds in for yourself, you're not going

to
lose
money. If it costs a few pence more for shipping or

toploader,
you
are
still making a nice little profit per item.


On Sat, 7 Aug 2004 09:26:09 +0100, "fon"

wrote:

I am very sorry to all offended by my post. I have

removed
the
listing
from
ebay and will not be listing one for a pre order again.
I stated in a previous post that I wasn't in it for the

money
but
to
help
cover my costs of traveling to and from etc.

I did post at the end of my previous post asking if

someone
could
give
me
todds website but no one replied. This is however not an
excuse.

BDRX did reply to my previous post and said be prepared

to
lose
money
at
first. I'm not in a position where I can lose money so

thats
where
the
$60
came from. I did notice from the ebay listing I made one

extra
mistake
and I
added that postage was $5 but when in fact it was

included.
I
based
the
price on a £20 autograph. Ebay listing fee and total

price
fee.
Paypal
fee.
Postage to where ever. Toploader. Plus and again this

wasn't
clear
I
was
going to have the photo of the guest with your photo

printed
off
at
a
local
shop not on my computer so you would have a great COA.

I really am sorry that I offended people on here and I
certainly
didn't
intend to do that. I've had 2 nasty e-mails in the last

few
hours
containing
words to the effect of 'money grabbing w****r' 'f*****g

nob'
and
would
hope
this stop. Also in the last hour someone e-mailed asking

could
I
get
an
autograph for them but my ansewer is no as I probably

won't
go
now.

If you feel that I have offended you that much please

reply
to
this
post
and
I won't post on this newsgroup again. I've made a few

friends
on
here
and
sorry if I've spoiled that.


Jason



"dahoov2" wrote in message
. ..
Sorry, but 80.00 for a common signature, a person who

was
an
extra
withno lines or who signs free, is ridiculous. That's

just
my
opinion, but if you get that much; good luck! 60.00 is
crazy
too.
But hey, as others say here, I don't have to buy.

You weren't really explanatory enough I guess; you

sounded
like
you
didn't want to profit, wanted to help collectors, but

really
even
if
an autograph cost 20 pounds, that's no more than 35-38
dollars.
With
Top loader and mail and extra fee, you are making still

more
profit
than most of the dealers!

How are autographs sold by dealers anyway? If one

gets
them
free
but
the value is 20 say in the guides, do people list like

that
or
what
they wish they can get? I think most list like that or

lower
and
let
the publuc decide. For you though, you'll have to pay

for
the
autographs so they must start at least at that price

plus
shipping
(and no one can demand you send in a toploader; would

be
hice,
but
I've shipped and had shipped to me in plastic sleeves

with
cardboard
backing-it's cheaper) On your auction, they'll decide

too.
Would
be
curious if anyone goes for it.

I guess you should have said you will do it to make

money.
Not
to
help collectors. Be forthright. At least if you are,

at
least
people
won't accuse you of lying or hiding something. The

most
they
can
say
is like I did, that you are charging a little bit

much....
For
me
at
leat, you seemed misleading. I thought you were gonna

be
like
Todd
was
and just charge a couple extra bucks for the time and
effort.

I can't advise you on canceling your auction or

changing
your
prices
or anything; that's for you to decide. You should'nt

let
people
here
persude you on that. However, you might read some of

the
Ebay
rules
so that you don't get into trouble. As you have seen

here,
some
people would seemingly turn you

in.......................
I'd
of
emailed you offlist to warn you as a couresy if I'd of

seen
it.
I
assumed from your posts, you were never evil intended

about
anything.
So you have nothing to be sorry for; people should not

be
emailing
you
off list to harrass you either. Advice is one thing;

grief
is
quite
another.

On Sat, 7 Aug 2004 04:08:41 +0100, "fon"

wrote:



This is where the idea come from and he cahrges $80

per
signing.

http://www.finalfrontiertoys.co.uk/


He sells loads via ebay

Jason



"fon" wrote in message
...
I've been collecting at cons for a few years and TTM

a
few
months.
My
feedback is 179 because in the last 6 months I've

sold
my
LOTR
trading
card
collection and my Video collection. If you check the
items
that
I've
sold
none are anything to do with autographs.

If I've caused upset then I'm sorry and will remove

the
ebay
auction
when
I
get home from work. I didn't mean to cause anyone

any
grief.
I've had a few nasty e-mails in the last few hours

which
has
been
a
little
upsetting so I'm not going to bother. This was going

to
be
a
trial
price
to
see how it went. I didn't want to go to Birminham

next
week
and
LOSE
money
but I can asure you the price would have come down

by
Collectamania
once I
had worked out shipped and top loader prices etc.

Last off how do I cancel an item on ebay.

Jason

"dahoov2" wrote in message
...
Well, he seemed to be asking for help in all the
previoius
posts... I
see that he's sold... this is bothering me now.

Think
I
might
have
been hoodwinked? Have been emailed offlist a lot

to
help
and
get
advice, so wonder what's up now.

So Fon, how long HAVE you been collecting?

On 6 Aug 2004 19:40:08 -0500, Autograph Collector
wrote:

dahoov2 wrote:

Both of you are not very nice. I doubt anyone

will
pay
that
much
for
common names such as those. I thought in your
original
post
you
said you were not out to get money. These

people
charge
15-20
pounds
at most per sig at this convention. Even with
shipping
and
a
small
fee, that's a lot of extra money. But then

again,
I
guess
if
people
want to pay, who am I to say. I just think you
portrayed
yourself
different in earlier posts and I wonder if I

can
trust
you
now!
Also, you appear to be selling one item, to one
person.
I
don't
see
multiples offered or a limit...Ebay isn't gonna

like
that!

Autograph collector is right... that's skirting
Ebay's
rules
and
you
can be kicked off...

However, the person that posted this is a

newbie;
you
didn't
have
to
go and report him. You could've emailed and

told
him
privately
first
before posting it publicly.... and let him

know.

Newbie? They sell all the time on eBay and have

a
feedback
rating
of
179. They're no newbie.

AC



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  #25  
Old August 8th 04, 12:56 AM
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Yeah, Carrie charges a lot more these days and Hamill is insane too..
now if you're talking 60-80 for Harrison Ford, lol, we have a deal
working ... Now that is one to me that would be more worth it.

Every autograph at CII was only 12.00 at the time, but truth? Carrie
Fisher's no one would sell for that low if they stood in line. I heard
people stood in line over 8 hours and didn't even get the sig...wasted
their whole entrance fee (which ty the was was pricy) and didn't get
to see anything! And to top it off, she's not a very nice woman. I
got in early with the help of someone.... and I was probably in line
on only 50 back at most and by the time I got there, they'd changed
the amount you could get, the inscriptions you were allowed and she
was NASTY. Billy Dee's line was crazy too, you probably had to wait a
couple hour for him. He too, wasn't very nice. He grunted and hardly
looked up and was bothered to be there. As was Peter Mayhew, but he
was sick I think. I expect them to be charging 15-20 at the next
event. With the turnout last time, there's no way they'll probably do
them that cheap again, but if they do, I'll try to help out if I can.
But no way I am doing as many as last time. And no special orders
either! Like this thread here and my advice to you, I learned from
last time....

Gary Kurtz is a director; so only real enthusiasts will care. I bet a
lot of people going will ask who he is.



On Sun, 8 Aug 2004 00:52:39 +0100, "fon"
wrote:

At celebration was it $12 each even for people like carrie fisher. That
seemed like a great deal because you could probably buy one of each for less
then $500. The celebration photos are very nice as I've started to buy then
I even bought a carrie Fisher off you a few months ago which is one of my
prized autographs.
But we are having 30 Guests here and looking to pay at least double that,
something is wrong somewhere. You make an even stronger point when you say
most of the small roles come from the UK. Sometimes I find the guest is just
sat there most of the day because eveyone has already got your autograph.
The was a pretty good guest announced last night that I'm not sure if your
aware of and thats Gary Kurtz. He hasn't done much over here so will
probably be a £20 man
"dahoov2" wrote in message
.. .
Don't have to convince me... if you want to do this, go ahead. Like I
said a bazillion times already; if you think someone will buy go for
it. But I sure as hell not pay that much! Moakare's card from Topps
isn't getting much. It's plummeted recently ... I've seen several
sell in the 20-25 range and suspect, as time goes on, he will be like
Warwick Davis, Bulloch and Prowse............. making their living at
this and can't even sell ones you bought for $10 later on. Just like
some of the ones I had.... no one interested at they're plentiful and
a dime a dozen.


On Sat, 7 Aug 2004 21:43:40 +0100, "fon"
wrote:

and another who you guys say is easy to get
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...tem=3814832009


again at $80

"fon" wrote in message
...
another



http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...em=3827235 32

3

at $80



"fon" wrote in message
...
here check it out for yourself




http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...em=3827445 42

3


"dahoov2" wrote in message
...
Dave Prowse signed here for 20.00 US which is just over 11 pounds

for
you... weird huh? He flies all the way across the ocean out of his
own country and charges LESS?! They sell for 15-25 here usually,

but
in US dollars... so there's a big difference. A lot cheaper for

you
to buy here than us to buy there.

At Celebration, autographs were 12.00 each US. But they were

limited
and collectible; so they got more in auctions because 1) they were

so
cheap and 2) there were a TON of guests (over 40) and so you could
collect them all.... and a lot of people wanted to do that. For a
while, they were selling from 30-150 each and now you can get them
half that depending on who it is you're getting (Fisher and

Williams
sell higher).

Anyway, don't let me or anyone here tell you what you should do. If
you want to sell them go ahead. Now you know all the fees involved

and
can judge better; and maybe some idea of what'll sell and what
won't... and of that guy who sold 5, WHAT did he sell? Something

very
popular and rarer or something common... take that into

consideration
too.


On Sat, 7 Aug 2004 16:45:34 +0100, "fon"


wrote:

A slighty different subject. What prices do guests tend to charge

in
the
US.
Here £15 is pretty standard and £20 is seen more and more. I've

even
seen
Dave Prowse sign for £25 which is about $45. I know we have a high
exchange
rate but the prices here are going mad. I hear at collectamania

there
maybe
a few £25 ones.

You said about bookmarking the page. In the last 2 weeks I've seen
him
sell
about 5. I will be honest and say I was looking at going next week
for
1
autograph and thought after seeing his web site that if I could

sell
a
few
at a price which I didn't thnk was to bad it would help cover my
costs.
Not
to MAKE money but help my costs. I've seen your posts and

understand
and
probably agree with everything you have said. I didn't think about

it
enough, I didn't work out the costs fully. I made a mistake and am
honest
enough to say that. I didn't intend to go out and rip people off.
Looking
at
my ebay listing the way I worded it sucked really and it wasn't

fully
done
well.

In October we have 30 starwars guest who will be charging between

£15
and
£25 even if all 30 charged £15 that makes £450, close to about

$800.
How
much were the charges at Celebration II last year.


Jason
"dahoov2" wrote in message
.. .
bookmark that and note there are 17 buy it nows. Keep track and
see
how many he sells... that's all I have to say. This will be

your
guide to whether what you are doing is a good idea or not. But

one
word of advice if I may. If you are doing it to make money and

NOT
just to help collectors... then be honest. those are prices to
make
money; not just to help your buddies.

That's why some celebs stop signing... they see that like you

saw
it,
get the absurd notion their sigs are worth that much and see

dollar
signs and never sign again for free... thereby ending the joy of
collecting. There is no joy to paying 60.00 for an elf who was

on
screen two seconds with no lines. At least not for me. I feel

all
I
am doing in lining someone's pockets when outside the little

LOTR
community, nobody even knows who the hell those guys are!

Imagine
telling your neighbor who saw the film but does not know the

names
of
the actors and asks you about your autograph. Here's the
conversation
I hear:

(Friend) wow, cool! That's from LOTR?

(You) Yeah, I bought it from a guy who got it for me at a
convention

(Friend) So you didn't meet him? How much did you pay for it if
you
don't mind my asking?

(You) No, I didn't meet him. Paid 60. for it

(Friend) that's a lot, but it's from LOTR right? Say, where in

the
movie was he again? I can't remember

(You) he was the guy in the battle scene on the wall ...

remember
that? He was the fifth guy in the back... you can see his face

a
little after so and so say....

(friend) (I will leave this to your own imagination; I am

sure
there's a varying about of explitive and other things to insert
here)

When prices were 10 or 15 US dollars, it was tolerable. they

went
to
20 and were getting pricy with shipping. Now, it's just plain
RIDICULOUS. The buck stops here.


On Sat, 7 Aug 2004 15:46:17 +0100, "fon"

wrote:

click on this link if you thought I was expensive...






http://cgi6.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dl...&userid=finalf

r
o
ntieruk&include=0&since=-1&sort=3&rows=50



"fon" wrote in message
...
Your points are very valued as as you can tell this was going

to
be
my
first
time. Only 2 things if I may add to what you have said. The
first
I
was
going to sent the photo insured which I guess is more then £2
(again
only
guessing) and secondly like I pointed out in my first post

I'm
only
going
for the Jeremy Bulloch signed book so I have to travel close

to
250
miles
and an entrance fee of £10 plus an absurd car park fee of £8.

I
am
the
first
to admit that I didn't look into it fully and rushed things a
bit
but
the
event is next saturday.

Can I please add that if I had got things cheaper then then

next
one
would
have been cheaper. It was a first attemp and caused a lot of
upset.

Jason
"dahoov2" wrote in message
...
On Sat, 07 Aug 2004 09:36:04 -0400, dahoov2


wrote:

Here for reference is Ebays Fees:

Starting Price,
Opening Value or
Reserve Price Insertion Fee
$0.01 - $0.99 $0.30
$1.00 - $9.99 $0.35
$10.00 - $24.99 $0.60
$25.00 - $49.99 $1.20
$50.00 - $199.99 $2.40
$200.00 - $499.99 $3.60
$500.00 and up $4.80

Your fee is 35 cents

Reserve fees:
Reserve Price Reserve Price Auction Fee
$0.01 - $49.99 $1.00
$50.00 - $199.99 $2.00
$200.00 and up 1% of Reserve Price (with a maximum of
$100.00)

Did you have one?

Photo fees:
Feature Fee
First picture FREE!
Each additional Picture $0.15
Preview Picture Free
Slide Show $0.75
Supersize Image $0.75
Picture Pack $1.00 (a $1.75 value) for up to 6 pictures or
$1.50
for

Yours was free I believe you only had one

Special things (I don't think you had anything -you may

have
had
buy
it now, but that's only 5 cents)
Listing Upgrade Listing Upgrade Fee
Home Page Featured $39.95 (single quantity) or $79.95
(quantity
of 2
or more)
Featured Plus! $19.95
Highlight $5.00
Border $3.00
Item Subtitle $0.50
Bold $1.00
Listing Designer* $0.10
Gallery $0.25
Gallery Featured $19.95
List in Two Categories Double the insertion and listing
upgrades
fees
(excluding Scheduled Listings and Home Page Featured).
10-Day Duration
The longest listing duration available $0.20
Scheduled Listings $0.10
Buy It Now $0.05
Gift Services $0.25
* No Listing Designer fee for Selling Manager Pro
subscribers.
Return to top

eBay Motors Listing Upgrade Fee
Motors Gallery Featured $99.95 for vehicles
$24.95 for non-vehicles
Highlight $5.00
Bold $4.00 for vehicles
$1.00 for non-vehicles
Border $4 for Vehicles
$3 for Parts & Accessories
Listing Designer Not available for vehicles
$0.10 for non-vehicles
Gallery FREE for vehicles
$0.25 non-vehicles
Featured Plus! $19.95
List in Two Categories Not Available for Motors
Listing Icon $2.00 for vehicles
$1.00 for non-vehicles
10-Day Duration
The longest listing duration available $5.00 for all

vehicle
listings
Buy It Now $1.00 for all vehicle listings
$0.05 for non-vehicles


Pay Pal Fees:
Open an Account
Send Money Free Free
Withdraw Funds Free for U.S. bank accounts
Fees for international banks Free for U.S. bank accounts
Fees for international banks
Add funds Free for U.S. bank accounts
Fees for international banks Free for U.S. bank accounts
Fees for international banks
Receive Funds Free Standard Rate: 2.9% + 30¢*
Merchant Rate: 2.2% + 30¢*

There is a conversion fee for overseas conversion of 1%

Total
is
3.9%
plus 30 cents. Always comes bout 4-5% for me depending on
price
sold
for.

I guess you do have some fees and you are adding in a

couple
pounds
for your troubles...

Maybe Ebay wasn't the way to go to help collectors? Just

a
thought.
That's more a dealer tool I think but I guess if you are
paying
15-20
pounds per autograph, adding say 5 pounds for you would

mean
20-25
pounds, add that to (let's assume you had a generic

listing
fee
with
Buy it now) 40 cents your total is 22 pence (at 1.8
conversion)
you
are at 20.22 -25.22 plus your 30 cent pay pal (17P) you

are
at
20.39-25.39 plus your 3.9 (assuming you are converting

funds
and
paying that extra 1%) is 80 cents (44p) - 99 cents (55p).
You
are
at
20.83 or 25.94 in pounds..... add a pound for toploader?
that's
21.83
or 25.94 and I'd round up. One standard 8x10 in a

toploader
from
the
UK to the US is? Can someone give a price from recent.

Lets
say
one
pound whic is not 22.83-26.94. plus shiiping, No more than

2
pounds
at
most? I've put 4 68p stamps on which was too much and it

was
fine.
so total 24.83-28.94 in pounds. Let's round up, giving

you a
small
margin for error and you're at 25-29 pounds for an

autograph
with
packing, shipping, fees and whatnot. Based on an exchange
rate
of
1.80 US dollar per pound, you're talking expensive but

better
than
60.00 ... 45 US dollars to 52 dollars and 20 cents.

Still
megabucks
for no names.....

should be 26.94 not 25.94 (first reference)

Hope this helped people here; I know those fees add up!
That's
why
I
do generic listings and ask people not to pay Pay Pal. By
the
way,
for sellers, Bid Pay is free. It's the opposite...buyers

pay
a
money
order fee and it's sent to the seller (but takes a couple
days).
Cheapest way to go is money order but international ones

can
be
expensive. And you have to be sure you do it in the money

of
whatever
country is accepting it.

Anyway, the exchange rate here is absurd when dealing with
the
UK
and
I think that's the major part where the problem is. I

don't
think
you
were being absurd too much, it is more of the whole price

in
the
end
for a bunch of common people, people who did at least once
sign
free
or who didn't even have more than 2 seconds in the movie

with
no
lines!

If you were talking about someone GOOD, then maybe it'd

not
have
seemed so bad!



By adding your 5 pounds in for yourself, you're not going

to
lose
money. If it costs a few pence more for shipping or

toploader,
you
are
still making a nice little profit per item.


On Sat, 7 Aug 2004 09:26:09 +0100, "fon"

wrote:

I am very sorry to all offended by my post. I have

removed
the
listing
from
ebay and will not be listing one for a pre order again.
I stated in a previous post that I wasn't in it for the
money
but
to
help
cover my costs of traveling to and from etc.

I did post at the end of my previous post asking if

someone
could
give
me
todds website but no one replied. This is however not an
excuse.

BDRX did reply to my previous post and said be prepared

to
lose
money
at
first. I'm not in a position where I can lose money so

thats
where
the
$60
came from. I did notice from the ebay listing I made one
extra
mistake
and I
added that postage was $5 but when in fact it was

included.
I
based
the
price on a £20 autograph. Ebay listing fee and total

price
fee.
Paypal
fee.
Postage to where ever. Toploader. Plus and again this

wasn't
clear
I
was
going to have the photo of the guest with your photo

printed
off
at
a
local
shop not on my computer so you would have a great COA.

I really am sorry that I offended people on here and I
certainly
didn't
intend to do that. I've had 2 nasty e-mails in the last

few
hours
containing
words to the effect of 'money grabbing w****r' 'f*****g
nob'
and
would
hope
this stop. Also in the last hour someone e-mailed asking
could
I
get
an
autograph for them but my ansewer is no as I probably

won't
go
now.

If you feel that I have offended you that much please

reply
to
this
post
and
I won't post on this newsgroup again. I've made a few
friends
on
here
and
sorry if I've spoiled that.


Jason



"dahoov2" wrote in message
. ..
Sorry, but 80.00 for a common signature, a person who

was
an
extra
withno lines or who signs free, is ridiculous. That's
just
my
opinion, but if you get that much; good luck! 60.00 is
crazy
too.
But hey, as others say here, I don't have to buy.

You weren't really explanatory enough I guess; you

sounded
like
you
didn't want to profit, wanted to help collectors, but
really
even
if
an autograph cost 20 pounds, that's no more than 35-38
dollars.
With
Top loader and mail and extra fee, you are making still
more
profit
than most of the dealers!

How are autographs sold by dealers anyway? If one

gets
them
free
but
the value is 20 say in the guides, do people list like
that
or
what
they wish they can get? I think most list like that or
lower
and
let
the publuc decide. For you though, you'll have to pay

for
the
autographs so they must start at least at that price

plus
shipping
(and no one can demand you send in a toploader; would

be
hice,
but
I've shipped and had shipped to me in plastic sleeves

with
cardboard
backing-it's cheaper) On your auction, they'll decide

too.
Would
be
curious if anyone goes for it.

I guess you should have said you will do it to make
money.
Not
to
help collectors. Be forthright. At least if you are,

at
least
people
won't accuse you of lying or hiding something. The

most
they
can
say
is like I did, that you are charging a little bit

much....
For
me
at
leat, you seemed misleading. I thought you were gonna

be
like
Todd
was
and just charge a couple extra bucks for the time and
effort.

I can't advise you on canceling your auction or

changing
your
prices
or anything; that's for you to decide. You should'nt

let
people
here
persude you on that. However, you might read some of

the
Ebay
rules
so that you don't get into trouble. As you have seen
here,
some
people would seemingly turn you

in.......................
I'd
of
emailed you offlist to warn you as a couresy if I'd of
seen
it.
I
assumed from your posts, you were never evil intended
about
anything.
So you have nothing to be sorry for; people should not

be
emailing
you
off list to harrass you either. Advice is one thing;
grief
is
quite
another.

On Sat, 7 Aug 2004 04:08:41 +0100, "fon"

wrote:



This is where the idea come from and he cahrges $80

per
signing.

http://www.finalfrontiertoys.co.uk/


He sells loads via ebay

Jason



"fon" wrote in message
...
I've been collecting at cons for a few years and TTM

a
few
months.
My
feedback is 179 because in the last 6 months I've

sold
my
LOTR
trading
card
collection and my Video collection. If you check the
items
that
I've
sold
none are anything to do with autographs.

If I've caused upset then I'm sorry and will remove

the
ebay
auction
when
I
get home from work. I didn't mean to cause anyone

any
grief.
I've had a few nasty e-mails in the last few hours
which
has
been
a
little
upsetting so I'm not going to bother. This was going

to
be
a
trial
price
to
see how it went. I didn't want to go to Birminham

next
week
and
LOSE
money
but I can asure you the price would have come down

by
Collectamania
once I
had worked out shipped and top loader prices etc.

Last off how do I cancel an item on ebay.

Jason

"dahoov2" wrote in message
...
Well, he seemed to be asking for help in all the
previoius
posts... I
see that he's sold... this is bothering me now.
Think
I
might
have
been hoodwinked? Have been emailed offlist a lot

to
help
and
get
advice, so wonder what's up now.

So Fon, how long HAVE you been collecting?

On 6 Aug 2004 19:40:08 -0500, Autograph Collector
wrote:

dahoov2 wrote:

Both of you are not very nice. I doubt anyone
will
pay
that
much
for
common names such as those. I thought in your
original
post
you
said you were not out to get money. These

people
charge
15-20
pounds
at most per sig at this convention. Even with
shipping
and
a
small
fee, that's a lot of extra money. But then

again,
I
guess
if
people
want to pay, who am I to say. I just think you
portrayed
yourself
different in earlier posts and I wonder if I

can
trust
you
now!
Also, you appear to be selling one item, to one
person.
I
don't
see
multiples offered or a limit...Ebay isn't gonna
like
that!

Autograph collector is right... that's skirting
Ebay's
rules
and
you
can be kicked off...

However, the person that posted this is a

newbie;
you
didn't
have
to
go and report him. You could've emailed and

told
him
privately
first
before posting it publicly.... and let him

know.

Newbie? They sell all the time on eBay and have

a
feedback
rating
of
179. They're no newbie.

AC



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Old August 8th 04, 09:41 AM
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Having worked out the maths it would probably be about the same price to fly
out to celebration from here (air fares are getting cheaper by the day) then
for me to drive to collectamania (350 miles round trip) stay in a hotel and
get all 30 autographs. As yoda my say 'sense it makes not'

I'm going harrison ford hunting in a few weeks as he's taking a fancy to my
country Wales. He was here last month and is said to have loved it. He's
apparently set to by a boat for over here. So hopefully I sense a little
holiday coming on in North Wales.

Carrie fisher did a private convention in london last year. She was the only
guest, and it was something like £20 entrance fee and £35 a signed photo.
Limited to one a person and she would not allow photos to be taken of her.
I've heard loads of bad reports about Billy Dee and he has canceled
Collectamania in the past as has Gary Kurtz. So I'll have to wait and see on
that one. I've picked up about 10 celebration II photos so far and most have
been between $5 and $10 apart from your carrie fisher. I met Peter at the
last collectamania and he didn't even look up, didn't ask if I wanted made
out to anybody, so I was a little dissapointed.

Jason
"dahoov2" wrote in message
news
Yeah, Carrie charges a lot more these days and Hamill is insane too..
now if you're talking 60-80 for Harrison Ford, lol, we have a deal
working ... Now that is one to me that would be more worth it.

Every autograph at CII was only 12.00 at the time, but truth? Carrie
Fisher's no one would sell for that low if they stood in line. I heard
people stood in line over 8 hours and didn't even get the sig...wasted
their whole entrance fee (which ty the was was pricy) and didn't get
to see anything! And to top it off, she's not a very nice woman. I
got in early with the help of someone.... and I was probably in line
on only 50 back at most and by the time I got there, they'd changed
the amount you could get, the inscriptions you were allowed and she
was NASTY. Billy Dee's line was crazy too, you probably had to wait a
couple hour for him. He too, wasn't very nice. He grunted and hardly
looked up and was bothered to be there. As was Peter Mayhew, but he
was sick I think. I expect them to be charging 15-20 at the next
event. With the turnout last time, there's no way they'll probably do
them that cheap again, but if they do, I'll try to help out if I can.
But no way I am doing as many as last time. And no special orders
either! Like this thread here and my advice to you, I learned from
last time....

Gary Kurtz is a director; so only real enthusiasts will care. I bet a
lot of people going will ask who he is.



On Sun, 8 Aug 2004 00:52:39 +0100, "fon"
wrote:

At celebration was it $12 each even for people like carrie fisher. That
seemed like a great deal because you could probably buy one of each for

less
then $500. The celebration photos are very nice as I've started to buy

then
I even bought a carrie Fisher off you a few months ago which is one of my
prized autographs.
But we are having 30 Guests here and looking to pay at least double that,
something is wrong somewhere. You make an even stronger point when you

say
most of the small roles come from the UK. Sometimes I find the guest is

just
sat there most of the day because eveyone has already got your autograph.
The was a pretty good guest announced last night that I'm not sure if

your
aware of and thats Gary Kurtz. He hasn't done much over here so will
probably be a £20 man
"dahoov2" wrote in message
.. .
Don't have to convince me... if you want to do this, go ahead. Like I
said a bazillion times already; if you think someone will buy go for
it. But I sure as hell not pay that much! Moakare's card from Topps
isn't getting much. It's plummeted recently ... I've seen several
sell in the 20-25 range and suspect, as time goes on, he will be like
Warwick Davis, Bulloch and Prowse............. making their living at
this and can't even sell ones you bought for $10 later on. Just like
some of the ones I had.... no one interested at they're plentiful and
a dime a dozen.


On Sat, 7 Aug 2004 21:43:40 +0100, "fon"
wrote:

and another who you guys say is easy to get

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...tem=3814832009


again at $80

"fon" wrote in message
...
another




http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...tem=3827235 3

2
3

at $80



"fon" wrote in message
...
here check it out for yourself





http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...tem=3827445 4

2
3


"dahoov2" wrote in message
...
Dave Prowse signed here for 20.00 US which is just over 11

pounds
for
you... weird huh? He flies all the way across the ocean out of

his
own country and charges LESS?! They sell for 15-25 here

usually,
but
in US dollars... so there's a big difference. A lot cheaper for

you
to buy here than us to buy there.

At Celebration, autographs were 12.00 each US. But they were

limited
and collectible; so they got more in auctions because 1) they

were
so
cheap and 2) there were a TON of guests (over 40) and so you

could
collect them all.... and a lot of people wanted to do that. For

a
while, they were selling from 30-150 each and now you can get

them
half that depending on who it is you're getting (Fisher and

Williams
sell higher).

Anyway, don't let me or anyone here tell you what you should do.

If
you want to sell them go ahead. Now you know all the fees

involved
and
can judge better; and maybe some idea of what'll sell and what
won't... and of that guy who sold 5, WHAT did he sell?

Something
very
popular and rarer or something common... take that into

consideration
too.


On Sat, 7 Aug 2004 16:45:34 +0100, "fon"


wrote:

A slighty different subject. What prices do guests tend to

charge
in
the
US.
Here £15 is pretty standard and £20 is seen more and more. I've

even
seen
Dave Prowse sign for £25 which is about $45. I know we have a

high
exchange
rate but the prices here are going mad. I hear at collectamania

there
maybe
a few £25 ones.

You said about bookmarking the page. In the last 2 weeks I've

seen
him
sell
about 5. I will be honest and say I was looking at going next

week
for
1
autograph and thought after seeing his web site that if I could

sell
a
few
at a price which I didn't thnk was to bad it would help cover

my
costs.
Not
to MAKE money but help my costs. I've seen your posts and

understand
and
probably agree with everything you have said. I didn't think

about
it
enough, I didn't work out the costs fully. I made a mistake and

am
honest
enough to say that. I didn't intend to go out and rip people

off.
Looking
at
my ebay listing the way I worded it sucked really and it wasn't

fully
done
well.

In October we have 30 starwars guest who will be charging

between
£15
and
£25 even if all 30 charged £15 that makes £450, close to about

$800.
How
much were the charges at Celebration II last year.


Jason
"dahoov2" wrote in message
.. .
bookmark that and note there are 17 buy it nows. Keep track

and
see
how many he sells... that's all I have to say. This will be

your
guide to whether what you are doing is a good idea or not.

But
one
word of advice if I may. If you are doing it to make money

and
NOT
just to help collectors... then be honest. those are prices

to
make
money; not just to help your buddies.

That's why some celebs stop signing... they see that like you

saw
it,
get the absurd notion their sigs are worth that much and see

dollar
signs and never sign again for free... thereby ending the joy

of
collecting. There is no joy to paying 60.00 for an elf who

was
on
screen two seconds with no lines. At least not for me. I

feel
all
I
am doing in lining someone's pockets when outside the little

LOTR
community, nobody even knows who the hell those guys are!

Imagine
telling your neighbor who saw the film but does not know the

names
of
the actors and asks you about your autograph. Here's the
conversation
I hear:

(Friend) wow, cool! That's from LOTR?

(You) Yeah, I bought it from a guy who got it for me at a
convention

(Friend) So you didn't meet him? How much did you pay for it

if
you
don't mind my asking?

(You) No, I didn't meet him. Paid 60. for it

(Friend) that's a lot, but it's from LOTR right? Say, where

in
the
movie was he again? I can't remember

(You) he was the guy in the battle scene on the wall ...

remember
that? He was the fifth guy in the back... you can see his

face
a
little after so and so say....

(friend) (I will leave this to your own imagination; I am

sure
there's a varying about of explitive and other things to

insert
here)

When prices were 10 or 15 US dollars, it was tolerable. they

went
to
20 and were getting pricy with shipping. Now, it's just

plain
RIDICULOUS. The buck stops here.


On Sat, 7 Aug 2004 15:46:17 +0100, "fon"

wrote:

click on this link if you thought I was expensive...







http://cgi6.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dl...s&userid=final

f
r
o
ntieruk&include=0&since=-1&sort=3&rows=50



"fon" wrote in message
...
Your points are very valued as as you can tell this was

going
to
be
my
first
time. Only 2 things if I may add to what you have said.

The
first
I
was
going to sent the photo insured which I guess is more then

£2
(again
only
guessing) and secondly like I pointed out in my first post

I'm
only
going
for the Jeremy Bulloch signed book so I have to travel

close
to
250
miles
and an entrance fee of £10 plus an absurd car park fee of

£8.
I
am
the
first
to admit that I didn't look into it fully and rushed

things a
bit
but
the
event is next saturday.

Can I please add that if I had got things cheaper then

then
next
one
would
have been cheaper. It was a first attemp and caused a lot

of
upset.

Jason
"dahoov2" wrote in message
...
On Sat, 07 Aug 2004 09:36:04 -0400, dahoov2


wrote:

Here for reference is Ebays Fees:

Starting Price,
Opening Value or
Reserve Price Insertion Fee
$0.01 - $0.99 $0.30
$1.00 - $9.99 $0.35
$10.00 - $24.99 $0.60
$25.00 - $49.99 $1.20
$50.00 - $199.99 $2.40
$200.00 - $499.99 $3.60
$500.00 and up $4.80

Your fee is 35 cents

Reserve fees:
Reserve Price Reserve Price Auction Fee
$0.01 - $49.99 $1.00
$50.00 - $199.99 $2.00
$200.00 and up 1% of Reserve Price (with a maximum of
$100.00)

Did you have one?

Photo fees:
Feature Fee
First picture FREE!
Each additional Picture $0.15
Preview Picture Free
Slide Show $0.75
Supersize Image $0.75
Picture Pack $1.00 (a $1.75 value) for up to 6 pictures

or
$1.50
for

Yours was free I believe you only had one

Special things (I don't think you had anything -you may

have
had
buy
it now, but that's only 5 cents)
Listing Upgrade Listing Upgrade Fee
Home Page Featured $39.95 (single quantity) or $79.95
(quantity
of 2
or more)
Featured Plus! $19.95
Highlight $5.00
Border $3.00
Item Subtitle $0.50
Bold $1.00
Listing Designer* $0.10
Gallery $0.25
Gallery Featured $19.95
List in Two Categories Double the insertion and listing
upgrades
fees
(excluding Scheduled Listings and Home Page Featured).
10-Day Duration
The longest listing duration available $0.20
Scheduled Listings $0.10
Buy It Now $0.05
Gift Services $0.25
* No Listing Designer fee for Selling Manager Pro
subscribers.
Return to top

eBay Motors Listing Upgrade Fee
Motors Gallery Featured $99.95 for vehicles
$24.95 for non-vehicles
Highlight $5.00
Bold $4.00 for vehicles
$1.00 for non-vehicles
Border $4 for Vehicles
$3 for Parts & Accessories
Listing Designer Not available for vehicles
$0.10 for non-vehicles
Gallery FREE for vehicles
$0.25 non-vehicles
Featured Plus! $19.95
List in Two Categories Not Available for Motors
Listing Icon $2.00 for vehicles
$1.00 for non-vehicles
10-Day Duration
The longest listing duration available $5.00 for all

vehicle
listings
Buy It Now $1.00 for all vehicle listings
$0.05 for non-vehicles


Pay Pal Fees:
Open an Account
Send Money Free Free
Withdraw Funds Free for U.S. bank accounts
Fees for international banks Free for U.S. bank

accounts
Fees for international banks
Add funds Free for U.S. bank accounts
Fees for international banks Free for U.S. bank

accounts
Fees for international banks
Receive Funds Free Standard Rate: 2.9% + 30¢*
Merchant Rate: 2.2% + 30¢*

There is a conversion fee for overseas conversion of 1%

Total
is
3.9%
plus 30 cents. Always comes bout 4-5% for me depending

on
price
sold
for.

I guess you do have some fees and you are adding in a

couple
pounds
for your troubles...

Maybe Ebay wasn't the way to go to help collectors?

Just
a
thought.
That's more a dealer tool I think but I guess if you

are
paying
15-20
pounds per autograph, adding say 5 pounds for you would

mean
20-25
pounds, add that to (let's assume you had a generic

listing
fee
with
Buy it now) 40 cents your total is 22 pence (at 1.8
conversion)
you
are at 20.22 -25.22 plus your 30 cent pay pal (17P) you

are
at
20.39-25.39 plus your 3.9 (assuming you are converting

funds
and
paying that extra 1%) is 80 cents (44p) - 99 cents

(55p).
You
are
at
20.83 or 25.94 in pounds..... add a pound for

toploader?
that's
21.83
or 25.94 and I'd round up. One standard 8x10 in a

toploader
from
the
UK to the US is? Can someone give a price from recent.

Lets
say
one
pound whic is not 22.83-26.94. plus shiiping, No more

than
2
pounds
at
most? I've put 4 68p stamps on which was too much and

it
was
fine.
so total 24.83-28.94 in pounds. Let's round up, giving

you a
small
margin for error and you're at 25-29 pounds for an

autograph
with
packing, shipping, fees and whatnot. Based on an

exchange
rate
of
1.80 US dollar per pound, you're talking expensive but

better
than
60.00 ... 45 US dollars to 52 dollars and 20 cents.

Still
megabucks
for no names.....

should be 26.94 not 25.94 (first reference)

Hope this helped people here; I know those fees add up!
That's
why
I
do generic listings and ask people not to pay Pay Pal.

By
the
way,
for sellers, Bid Pay is free. It's the

opposite...buyers
pay
a
money
order fee and it's sent to the seller (but takes a

couple
days).
Cheapest way to go is money order but international

ones
can
be
expensive. And you have to be sure you do it in the

money
of
whatever
country is accepting it.

Anyway, the exchange rate here is absurd when dealing

with
the
UK
and
I think that's the major part where the problem is. I

don't
think
you
were being absurd too much, it is more of the whole

price
in
the
end
for a bunch of common people, people who did at least

once
sign
free
or who didn't even have more than 2 seconds in the

movie
with
no
lines!

If you were talking about someone GOOD, then maybe it'd

not
have
seemed so bad!



By adding your 5 pounds in for yourself, you're not

going
to
lose
money. If it costs a few pence more for shipping or

toploader,
you
are
still making a nice little profit per item.


On Sat, 7 Aug 2004 09:26:09 +0100, "fon"

wrote:

I am very sorry to all offended by my post. I have

removed
the
listing
from
ebay and will not be listing one for a pre order

again.
I stated in a previous post that I wasn't in it for

the
money
but
to
help
cover my costs of traveling to and from etc.

I did post at the end of my previous post asking if

someone
could
give
me
todds website but no one replied. This is however not

an
excuse.

BDRX did reply to my previous post and said be

prepared
to
lose
money
at
first. I'm not in a position where I can lose money so

thats
where
the
$60
came from. I did notice from the ebay listing I made

one
extra
mistake
and I
added that postage was $5 but when in fact it was

included.
I
based
the
price on a £20 autograph. Ebay listing fee and total

price
fee.
Paypal
fee.
Postage to where ever. Toploader. Plus and again this

wasn't
clear
I
was
going to have the photo of the guest with your photo

printed
off
at
a
local
shop not on my computer so you would have a great COA.

I really am sorry that I offended people on here and I
certainly
didn't
intend to do that. I've had 2 nasty e-mails in the

last
few
hours
containing
words to the effect of 'money grabbing w****r'

'f*****g
nob'
and
would
hope
this stop. Also in the last hour someone e-mailed

asking
could
I
get
an
autograph for them but my ansewer is no as I probably

won't
go
now.

If you feel that I have offended you that much please

reply
to
this
post
and
I won't post on this newsgroup again. I've made a few
friends
on
here
and
sorry if I've spoiled that.


Jason



"dahoov2" wrote in message
. ..
Sorry, but 80.00 for a common signature, a person

who
was
an
extra
withno lines or who signs free, is ridiculous.

That's
just
my
opinion, but if you get that much; good luck! 60.00

is
crazy
too.
But hey, as others say here, I don't have to buy.

You weren't really explanatory enough I guess; you

sounded
like
you
didn't want to profit, wanted to help collectors,

but
really
even
if
an autograph cost 20 pounds, that's no more than

35-38
dollars.
With
Top loader and mail and extra fee, you are making

still
more
profit
than most of the dealers!

How are autographs sold by dealers anyway? If one

gets
them
free
but
the value is 20 say in the guides, do people list

like
that
or
what
they wish they can get? I think most list like that

or
lower
and
let
the publuc decide. For you though, you'll have to

pay
for
the
autographs so they must start at least at that price

plus
shipping
(and no one can demand you send in a toploader;

would
be
hice,
but
I've shipped and had shipped to me in plastic

sleeves
with
cardboard
backing-it's cheaper) On your auction, they'll

decide
too.
Would
be
curious if anyone goes for it.

I guess you should have said you will do it to make
money.
Not
to
help collectors. Be forthright. At least if you

are,
at
least
people
won't accuse you of lying or hiding something. The

most
they
can
say
is like I did, that you are charging a little bit

much....
For
me
at
leat, you seemed misleading. I thought you were

gonna
be
like
Todd
was
and just charge a couple extra bucks for the time

and
effort.

I can't advise you on canceling your auction or

changing
your
prices
or anything; that's for you to decide. You

should'nt
let
people
here
persude you on that. However, you might read some

of
the
Ebay
rules
so that you don't get into trouble. As you have

seen
here,
some
people would seemingly turn you

in.......................
I'd
of
emailed you offlist to warn you as a couresy if I'd

of
seen
it.
I
assumed from your posts, you were never evil

intended
about
anything.
So you have nothing to be sorry for; people should

not
be
emailing
you
off list to harrass you either. Advice is one

thing;
grief
is
quite
another.

On Sat, 7 Aug 2004 04:08:41 +0100, "fon"

wrote:



This is where the idea come from and he cahrges $80

per
signing.

http://www.finalfrontiertoys.co.uk/


He sells loads via ebay

Jason



"fon" wrote in message
...
I've been collecting at cons for a few years and

TTM
a
few
months.
My
feedback is 179 because in the last 6 months I've

sold
my
LOTR
trading
card
collection and my Video collection. If you check

the
items
that
I've
sold
none are anything to do with autographs.

If I've caused upset then I'm sorry and will

remove
the
ebay
auction
when
I
get home from work. I didn't mean to cause anyone

any
grief.
I've had a few nasty e-mails in the last few

hours
which
has
been
a
little
upsetting so I'm not going to bother. This was

going
to
be
a
trial
price
to
see how it went. I didn't want to go to Birminham

next
week
and
LOSE
money
but I can asure you the price would have come

down
by
Collectamania
once I
had worked out shipped and top loader prices etc.

Last off how do I cancel an item on ebay.

Jason

"dahoov2" wrote in message

...
Well, he seemed to be asking for help in all

the
previoius
posts... I
see that he's sold... this is bothering me now.
Think
I
might
have
been hoodwinked? Have been emailed offlist a

lot
to
help
and
get
advice, so wonder what's up now.

So Fon, how long HAVE you been collecting?

On 6 Aug 2004 19:40:08 -0500, Autograph

Collector
wrote:

dahoov2 wrote:

Both of you are not very nice. I doubt

anyone
will
pay
that
much
for
common names such as those. I thought in

your
original
post
you
said you were not out to get money. These

people
charge
15-20
pounds
at most per sig at this convention. Even

with
shipping
and
a
small
fee, that's a lot of extra money. But then

again,
I
guess
if
people
want to pay, who am I to say. I just think

you
portrayed
yourself
different in earlier posts and I wonder if I

can
trust
you
now!
Also, you appear to be selling one item, to

one
person.
I
don't
see
multiples offered or a limit...Ebay isn't

gonna
like
that!

Autograph collector is right... that's

skirting
Ebay's
rules
and
you
can be kicked off...

However, the person that posted this is a

newbie;
you
didn't
have
to
go and report him. You could've emailed and

told
him
privately
first
before posting it publicly.... and let him

know.

Newbie? They sell all the time on eBay and

have
a
feedback
rating
of
179. They're no newbie.

AC



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Old August 8th 04, 01:24 PM
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Wow, 5-10? You got a FANTASTIC deal! Those even though way down in
price for a while (and I figure they'll go up just a little during
CIII) are still holding for more than originally paid. So you did get
a great deal. There was one guy making reprints and saying they were
'real' so be aware for that. Those were going about the prices you
mentioned. Supposedly, they were putting those holographic logos on
there so no one could copy them; and were gonna go after those who
did. But as always, people get away with crap.

Good luck on Ford; if you don't throw too much at him, I heard he was
nice, except I hear that since he was with Flockhart, he's not AS
nice.

On Sun, 8 Aug 2004 09:41:56 +0100, "fon"
wrote:

Having worked out the maths it would probably be about the same price to fly
out to celebration from here (air fares are getting cheaper by the day) then
for me to drive to collectamania (350 miles round trip) stay in a hotel and
get all 30 autographs. As yoda my say 'sense it makes not'

I'm going harrison ford hunting in a few weeks as he's taking a fancy to my
country Wales. He was here last month and is said to have loved it. He's
apparently set to by a boat for over here. So hopefully I sense a little
holiday coming on in North Wales.

Carrie fisher did a private convention in london last year. She was the only
guest, and it was something like £20 entrance fee and £35 a signed photo.
Limited to one a person and she would not allow photos to be taken of her.
I've heard loads of bad reports about Billy Dee and he has canceled
Collectamania in the past as has Gary Kurtz. So I'll have to wait and see on
that one. I've picked up about 10 celebration II photos so far and most have
been between $5 and $10 apart from your carrie fisher. I met Peter at the
last collectamania and he didn't even look up, didn't ask if I wanted made
out to anybody, so I was a little dissapointed.

Jason
"dahoov2" wrote in message
news
Yeah, Carrie charges a lot more these days and Hamill is insane too..
now if you're talking 60-80 for Harrison Ford, lol, we have a deal
working ... Now that is one to me that would be more worth it.

Every autograph at CII was only 12.00 at the time, but truth? Carrie
Fisher's no one would sell for that low if they stood in line. I heard
people stood in line over 8 hours and didn't even get the sig...wasted
their whole entrance fee (which ty the was was pricy) and didn't get
to see anything! And to top it off, she's not a very nice woman. I
got in early with the help of someone.... and I was probably in line
on only 50 back at most and by the time I got there, they'd changed
the amount you could get, the inscriptions you were allowed and she
was NASTY. Billy Dee's line was crazy too, you probably had to wait a
couple hour for him. He too, wasn't very nice. He grunted and hardly
looked up and was bothered to be there. As was Peter Mayhew, but he
was sick I think. I expect them to be charging 15-20 at the next
event. With the turnout last time, there's no way they'll probably do
them that cheap again, but if they do, I'll try to help out if I can.
But no way I am doing as many as last time. And no special orders
either! Like this thread here and my advice to you, I learned from
last time....

Gary Kurtz is a director; so only real enthusiasts will care. I bet a
lot of people going will ask who he is.



On Sun, 8 Aug 2004 00:52:39 +0100, "fon"
wrote:

At celebration was it $12 each even for people like carrie fisher. That
seemed like a great deal because you could probably buy one of each for

less
then $500. The celebration photos are very nice as I've started to buy

then
I even bought a carrie Fisher off you a few months ago which is one of my
prized autographs.
But we are having 30 Guests here and looking to pay at least double that,
something is wrong somewhere. You make an even stronger point when you

say
most of the small roles come from the UK. Sometimes I find the guest is

just
sat there most of the day because eveyone has already got your autograph.
The was a pretty good guest announced last night that I'm not sure if

your
aware of and thats Gary Kurtz. He hasn't done much over here so will
probably be a £20 man
"dahoov2" wrote in message
.. .
Don't have to convince me... if you want to do this, go ahead. Like I
said a bazillion times already; if you think someone will buy go for
it. But I sure as hell not pay that much! Moakare's card from Topps
isn't getting much. It's plummeted recently ... I've seen several
sell in the 20-25 range and suspect, as time goes on, he will be like
Warwick Davis, Bulloch and Prowse............. making their living at
this and can't even sell ones you bought for $10 later on. Just like
some of the ones I had.... no one interested at they're plentiful and
a dime a dozen.


On Sat, 7 Aug 2004 21:43:40 +0100, "fon"
wrote:

and another who you guys say is easy to get

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...tem=3814832009


again at $80

"fon" wrote in message
...
another




http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...tem=3827235 3

2
3

at $80



"fon" wrote in message
...
here check it out for yourself





http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...tem=3827445 4

2
3


"dahoov2" wrote in message
...
Dave Prowse signed here for 20.00 US which is just over 11

pounds
for
you... weird huh? He flies all the way across the ocean out of

his
own country and charges LESS?! They sell for 15-25 here

usually,
but
in US dollars... so there's a big difference. A lot cheaper for
you
to buy here than us to buy there.

At Celebration, autographs were 12.00 each US. But they were
limited
and collectible; so they got more in auctions because 1) they

were
so
cheap and 2) there were a TON of guests (over 40) and so you

could
collect them all.... and a lot of people wanted to do that. For

a
while, they were selling from 30-150 each and now you can get

them
half that depending on who it is you're getting (Fisher and
Williams
sell higher).

Anyway, don't let me or anyone here tell you what you should do.

If
you want to sell them go ahead. Now you know all the fees

involved
and
can judge better; and maybe some idea of what'll sell and what
won't... and of that guy who sold 5, WHAT did he sell?

Something
very
popular and rarer or something common... take that into
consideration
too.


On Sat, 7 Aug 2004 16:45:34 +0100, "fon"

wrote:

A slighty different subject. What prices do guests tend to

charge
in
the
US.
Here £15 is pretty standard and £20 is seen more and more. I've
even
seen
Dave Prowse sign for £25 which is about $45. I know we have a

high
exchange
rate but the prices here are going mad. I hear at collectamania
there
maybe
a few £25 ones.

You said about bookmarking the page. In the last 2 weeks I've

seen
him
sell
about 5. I will be honest and say I was looking at going next

week
for
1
autograph and thought after seeing his web site that if I could
sell
a
few
at a price which I didn't thnk was to bad it would help cover

my
costs.
Not
to MAKE money but help my costs. I've seen your posts and
understand
and
probably agree with everything you have said. I didn't think

about
it
enough, I didn't work out the costs fully. I made a mistake and

am
honest
enough to say that. I didn't intend to go out and rip people

off.
Looking
at
my ebay listing the way I worded it sucked really and it wasn't
fully
done
well.

In October we have 30 starwars guest who will be charging

between
£15
and
£25 even if all 30 charged £15 that makes £450, close to about
$800.
How
much were the charges at Celebration II last year.


Jason
"dahoov2" wrote in message
.. .
bookmark that and note there are 17 buy it nows. Keep track

and
see
how many he sells... that's all I have to say. This will be
your
guide to whether what you are doing is a good idea or not.

But
one
word of advice if I may. If you are doing it to make money

and
NOT
just to help collectors... then be honest. those are prices

to
make
money; not just to help your buddies.

That's why some celebs stop signing... they see that like you
saw
it,
get the absurd notion their sigs are worth that much and see
dollar
signs and never sign again for free... thereby ending the joy

of
collecting. There is no joy to paying 60.00 for an elf who

was
on
screen two seconds with no lines. At least not for me. I

feel
all
I
am doing in lining someone's pockets when outside the little
LOTR
community, nobody even knows who the hell those guys are!
Imagine
telling your neighbor who saw the film but does not know the
names
of
the actors and asks you about your autograph. Here's the
conversation
I hear:

(Friend) wow, cool! That's from LOTR?

(You) Yeah, I bought it from a guy who got it for me at a
convention

(Friend) So you didn't meet him? How much did you pay for it

if
you
don't mind my asking?

(You) No, I didn't meet him. Paid 60. for it

(Friend) that's a lot, but it's from LOTR right? Say, where

in
the
movie was he again? I can't remember

(You) he was the guy in the battle scene on the wall ...
remember
that? He was the fifth guy in the back... you can see his

face
a
little after so and so say....

(friend) (I will leave this to your own imagination; I am
sure
there's a varying about of explitive and other things to

insert
here)

When prices were 10 or 15 US dollars, it was tolerable. they
went
to
20 and were getting pricy with shipping. Now, it's just

plain
RIDICULOUS. The buck stops here.


On Sat, 7 Aug 2004 15:46:17 +0100, "fon"

wrote:

click on this link if you thought I was expensive...







http://cgi6.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dl...s&userid=final

f
r
o
ntieruk&include=0&since=-1&sort=3&rows=50



"fon" wrote in message
...
Your points are very valued as as you can tell this was

going
to
be
my
first
time. Only 2 things if I may add to what you have said.

The
first
I
was
going to sent the photo insured which I guess is more then

£2
(again
only
guessing) and secondly like I pointed out in my first post
I'm
only
going
for the Jeremy Bulloch signed book so I have to travel

close
to
250
miles
and an entrance fee of £10 plus an absurd car park fee of

£8.
I
am
the
first
to admit that I didn't look into it fully and rushed

things a
bit
but
the
event is next saturday.

Can I please add that if I had got things cheaper then

then
next
one
would
have been cheaper. It was a first attemp and caused a lot

of
upset.

Jason
"dahoov2" wrote in message
...
On Sat, 07 Aug 2004 09:36:04 -0400, dahoov2

wrote:

Here for reference is Ebays Fees:

Starting Price,
Opening Value or
Reserve Price Insertion Fee
$0.01 - $0.99 $0.30
$1.00 - $9.99 $0.35
$10.00 - $24.99 $0.60
$25.00 - $49.99 $1.20
$50.00 - $199.99 $2.40
$200.00 - $499.99 $3.60
$500.00 and up $4.80

Your fee is 35 cents

Reserve fees:
Reserve Price Reserve Price Auction Fee
$0.01 - $49.99 $1.00
$50.00 - $199.99 $2.00
$200.00 and up 1% of Reserve Price (with a maximum of
$100.00)

Did you have one?

Photo fees:
Feature Fee
First picture FREE!
Each additional Picture $0.15
Preview Picture Free
Slide Show $0.75
Supersize Image $0.75
Picture Pack $1.00 (a $1.75 value) for up to 6 pictures

or
$1.50
for

Yours was free I believe you only had one

Special things (I don't think you had anything -you may
have
had
buy
it now, but that's only 5 cents)
Listing Upgrade Listing Upgrade Fee
Home Page Featured $39.95 (single quantity) or $79.95
(quantity
of 2
or more)
Featured Plus! $19.95
Highlight $5.00
Border $3.00
Item Subtitle $0.50
Bold $1.00
Listing Designer* $0.10
Gallery $0.25
Gallery Featured $19.95
List in Two Categories Double the insertion and listing
upgrades
fees
(excluding Scheduled Listings and Home Page Featured).
10-Day Duration
The longest listing duration available $0.20
Scheduled Listings $0.10
Buy It Now $0.05
Gift Services $0.25
* No Listing Designer fee for Selling Manager Pro
subscribers.
Return to top

eBay Motors Listing Upgrade Fee
Motors Gallery Featured $99.95 for vehicles
$24.95 for non-vehicles
Highlight $5.00
Bold $4.00 for vehicles
$1.00 for non-vehicles
Border $4 for Vehicles
$3 for Parts & Accessories
Listing Designer Not available for vehicles
$0.10 for non-vehicles
Gallery FREE for vehicles
$0.25 non-vehicles
Featured Plus! $19.95
List in Two Categories Not Available for Motors
Listing Icon $2.00 for vehicles
$1.00 for non-vehicles
10-Day Duration
The longest listing duration available $5.00 for all
vehicle
listings
Buy It Now $1.00 for all vehicle listings
$0.05 for non-vehicles


Pay Pal Fees:
Open an Account
Send Money Free Free
Withdraw Funds Free for U.S. bank accounts
Fees for international banks Free for U.S. bank

accounts
Fees for international banks
Add funds Free for U.S. bank accounts
Fees for international banks Free for U.S. bank

accounts
Fees for international banks
Receive Funds Free Standard Rate: 2.9% + 30¢*
Merchant Rate: 2.2% + 30¢*

There is a conversion fee for overseas conversion of 1%
Total
is
3.9%
plus 30 cents. Always comes bout 4-5% for me depending

on
price
sold
for.

I guess you do have some fees and you are adding in a
couple
pounds
for your troubles...

Maybe Ebay wasn't the way to go to help collectors?

Just
a
thought.
That's more a dealer tool I think but I guess if you

are
paying
15-20
pounds per autograph, adding say 5 pounds for you would
mean
20-25
pounds, add that to (let's assume you had a generic
listing
fee
with
Buy it now) 40 cents your total is 22 pence (at 1.8
conversion)
you
are at 20.22 -25.22 plus your 30 cent pay pal (17P) you
are
at
20.39-25.39 plus your 3.9 (assuming you are converting
funds
and
paying that extra 1%) is 80 cents (44p) - 99 cents

(55p).
You
are
at
20.83 or 25.94 in pounds..... add a pound for

toploader?
that's
21.83
or 25.94 and I'd round up. One standard 8x10 in a
toploader
from
the
UK to the US is? Can someone give a price from recent.
Lets
say
one
pound whic is not 22.83-26.94. plus shiiping, No more

than
2
pounds
at
most? I've put 4 68p stamps on which was too much and

it
was
fine.
so total 24.83-28.94 in pounds. Let's round up, giving
you a
small
margin for error and you're at 25-29 pounds for an
autograph
with
packing, shipping, fees and whatnot. Based on an

exchange
rate
of
1.80 US dollar per pound, you're talking expensive but
better
than
60.00 ... 45 US dollars to 52 dollars and 20 cents.
Still
megabucks
for no names.....

should be 26.94 not 25.94 (first reference)

Hope this helped people here; I know those fees add up!
That's
why
I
do generic listings and ask people not to pay Pay Pal.

By
the
way,
for sellers, Bid Pay is free. It's the

opposite...buyers
pay
a
money
order fee and it's sent to the seller (but takes a

couple
days).
Cheapest way to go is money order but international

ones
can
be
expensive. And you have to be sure you do it in the

money
of
whatever
country is accepting it.

Anyway, the exchange rate here is absurd when dealing

with
the
UK
and
I think that's the major part where the problem is. I
don't
think
you
were being absurd too much, it is more of the whole

price
in
the
end
for a bunch of common people, people who did at least

once
sign
free
or who didn't even have more than 2 seconds in the

movie
with
no
lines!

If you were talking about someone GOOD, then maybe it'd
not
have
seemed so bad!



By adding your 5 pounds in for yourself, you're not

going
to
lose
money. If it costs a few pence more for shipping or
toploader,
you
are
still making a nice little profit per item.


On Sat, 7 Aug 2004 09:26:09 +0100, "fon"

wrote:

I am very sorry to all offended by my post. I have
removed
the
listing
from
ebay and will not be listing one for a pre order

again.
I stated in a previous post that I wasn't in it for

the
money
but
to
help
cover my costs of traveling to and from etc.

I did post at the end of my previous post asking if
someone
could
give
me
todds website but no one replied. This is however not

an
excuse.

BDRX did reply to my previous post and said be

prepared
to
lose
money
at
first. I'm not in a position where I can lose money so
thats
where
the
$60
came from. I did notice from the ebay listing I made

one
extra
mistake
and I
added that postage was $5 but when in fact it was
included.
I
based
the
price on a £20 autograph. Ebay listing fee and total
price
fee.
Paypal
fee.
Postage to where ever. Toploader. Plus and again this
wasn't
clear
I
was
going to have the photo of the guest with your photo
printed
off
at
a
local
shop not on my computer so you would have a great COA.

I really am sorry that I offended people on here and I
certainly
didn't
intend to do that. I've had 2 nasty e-mails in the

last
few
hours
containing
words to the effect of 'money grabbing w****r'

'f*****g
nob'
and
would
hope
this stop. Also in the last hour someone e-mailed

asking
could
I
get
an
autograph for them but my ansewer is no as I probably
won't
go
now.

If you feel that I have offended you that much please
reply
to
this
post
and
I won't post on this newsgroup again. I've made a few
friends
on
here
and
sorry if I've spoiled that.


Jason



"dahoov2" wrote in message
. ..
Sorry, but 80.00 for a common signature, a person

who
was
an
extra
withno lines or who signs free, is ridiculous.

That's
just
my
opinion, but if you get that much; good luck! 60.00

is
crazy
too.
But hey, as others say here, I don't have to buy.

You weren't really explanatory enough I guess; you
sounded
like
you
didn't want to profit, wanted to help collectors,

but
really
even
if
an autograph cost 20 pounds, that's no more than

35-38
dollars.
With
Top loader and mail and extra fee, you are making

still
more
profit
than most of the dealers!

How are autographs sold by dealers anyway? If one
gets
them
free
but
the value is 20 say in the guides, do people list

like
that
or
what
they wish they can get? I think most list like that

or
lower
and
let
the publuc decide. For you though, you'll have to

pay
for
the
autographs so they must start at least at that price
plus
shipping
(and no one can demand you send in a toploader;

would
be
hice,
but
I've shipped and had shipped to me in plastic

sleeves
with
cardboard
backing-it's cheaper) On your auction, they'll

decide
too.
Would
be
curious if anyone goes for it.

I guess you should have said you will do it to make
money.
Not
to
help collectors. Be forthright. At least if you

are,
at
least
people
won't accuse you of lying or hiding something. The
most
they
can
say
is like I did, that you are charging a little bit
much....
For
me
at
leat, you seemed misleading. I thought you were

gonna
be
like
Todd
was
and just charge a couple extra bucks for the time

and
effort.

I can't advise you on canceling your auction or
changing
your
prices
or anything; that's for you to decide. You

should'nt
let
people
here
persude you on that. However, you might read some

of
the
Ebay
rules
so that you don't get into trouble. As you have

seen
here,
some
people would seemingly turn you
in.......................
I'd
of
emailed you offlist to warn you as a couresy if I'd

of
seen
it.
I
assumed from your posts, you were never evil

intended
about
anything.
So you have nothing to be sorry for; people should

not
be
emailing
you
off list to harrass you either. Advice is one

thing;
grief
is
quite
another.

On Sat, 7 Aug 2004 04:08:41 +0100, "fon"

wrote:



This is where the idea come from and he cahrges $80
per
signing.

http://www.finalfrontiertoys.co.uk/


He sells loads via ebay

Jason



"fon" wrote in message
...
I've been collecting at cons for a few years and

TTM
a
few
months.
My
feedback is 179 because in the last 6 months I've
sold
my
LOTR
trading
card
collection and my Video collection. If you check

the
items
that
I've
sold
none are anything to do with autographs.

If I've caused upset then I'm sorry and will

remove
the
ebay
auction
when
I
get home from work. I didn't mean to cause anyone
any
grief.
I've had a few nasty e-mails in the last few

hours
which
has
been
a
little
upsetting so I'm not going to bother. This was

going
to
be
a
trial
price
to
see how it went. I didn't want to go to Birminham
next
week
and
LOSE
money
but I can asure you the price would have come

down
by
Collectamania
once I
had worked out shipped and top loader prices etc.

Last off how do I cancel an item on ebay.

Jason

"dahoov2" wrote in message

.. .
Well, he seemed to be asking for help in all

the
previoius
posts... I
see that he's sold... this is bothering me now.
Think
I
might
have
been hoodwinked? Have been emailed offlist a

lot
to
help
and
get
advice, so wonder what's up now.

So Fon, how long HAVE you been collecting?

On 6 Aug 2004 19:40:08 -0500, Autograph

Collector
wrote:

dahoov2 wrote:

Both of you are not very nice. I doubt

anyone
will
pay
that
much
for
common names such as those. I thought in

your
original
post
you
said you were not out to get money. These
people
charge
15-20
pounds
at most per sig at this convention. Even

with
shipping
and
a
small
fee, that's a lot of extra money. But then
again,
I
guess
if
people
want to pay, who am I to say. I just think

you
portrayed
yourself
different in earlier posts and I wonder if I
can
trust
you
now!
Also, you appear to be selling one item, to

one
person.
I
don't
see
multiples offered or a limit...Ebay isn't

gonna
like
that!

Autograph collector is right... that's

skirting
Ebay's
rules
and
you
can be kicked off...

However, the person that posted this is a
newbie;
you
didn't
have
to
go and report him. You could've emailed and
told
him
privately
first
before posting it publicly.... and let him
know.

Newbie? They sell all the time on eBay and

have
a
feedback
rating
of
179. They're no newbie.

AC



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Old August 8th 04, 01:54 PM
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I find that with the Celebration II signed photos only carrie comes up a lot
the smaller guests only appear from time to time and you need to catch them
cheap while you can. I think the silver logo in the corner is fantastic ans
really make the photo that much more special. I wish I could go to CIII but
I'm getting married in Cuba next year so all money goes to that.

I can't see myself going next weekend unless they are someone special, I
want to meet Leslie Schofield as I've not done before and also want Jeremy
Bolluch 'flying solo' book as its limited to only 2000 copies I can't see it
lasting to long.

Just read my local sunday paper and I hear Demi Moore will be here in south
wales filming soon, any idea on what shes like in person she'll be with her
boyfriend but I can't remember his name.
Also just found out that Jennifer Love Hewit was here last month so I'm
dissapointed as I've never had an In Person appart from at cons.


Jason
"dahoov2" wrote in message
...
Wow, 5-10? You got a FANTASTIC deal! Those even though way down in
price for a while (and I figure they'll go up just a little during
CIII) are still holding for more than originally paid. So you did get
a great deal. There was one guy making reprints and saying they were
'real' so be aware for that. Those were going about the prices you
mentioned. Supposedly, they were putting those holographic logos on
there so no one could copy them; and were gonna go after those who
did. But as always, people get away with crap.

Good luck on Ford; if you don't throw too much at him, I heard he was
nice, except I hear that since he was with Flockhart, he's not AS
nice.

On Sun, 8 Aug 2004 09:41:56 +0100, "fon"
wrote:

Having worked out the maths it would probably be about the same price to

fly
out to celebration from here (air fares are getting cheaper by the day)

then
for me to drive to collectamania (350 miles round trip) stay in a hotel

and
get all 30 autographs. As yoda my say 'sense it makes not'

I'm going harrison ford hunting in a few weeks as he's taking a fancy to

my
country Wales. He was here last month and is said to have loved it. He's
apparently set to by a boat for over here. So hopefully I sense a little
holiday coming on in North Wales.

Carrie fisher did a private convention in london last year. She was the

only
guest, and it was something like £20 entrance fee and £35 a signed photo.
Limited to one a person and she would not allow photos to be taken of

her.
I've heard loads of bad reports about Billy Dee and he has canceled
Collectamania in the past as has Gary Kurtz. So I'll have to wait and see

on
that one. I've picked up about 10 celebration II photos so far and most

have
been between $5 and $10 apart from your carrie fisher. I met Peter at the
last collectamania and he didn't even look up, didn't ask if I wanted

made
out to anybody, so I was a little dissapointed.

Jason
"dahoov2" wrote in message
news
Yeah, Carrie charges a lot more these days and Hamill is insane too..
now if you're talking 60-80 for Harrison Ford, lol, we have a deal
working ... Now that is one to me that would be more worth it.

Every autograph at CII was only 12.00 at the time, but truth? Carrie
Fisher's no one would sell for that low if they stood in line. I heard
people stood in line over 8 hours and didn't even get the sig...wasted
their whole entrance fee (which ty the was was pricy) and didn't get
to see anything! And to top it off, she's not a very nice woman. I
got in early with the help of someone.... and I was probably in line
on only 50 back at most and by the time I got there, they'd changed
the amount you could get, the inscriptions you were allowed and she
was NASTY. Billy Dee's line was crazy too, you probably had to wait a
couple hour for him. He too, wasn't very nice. He grunted and hardly
looked up and was bothered to be there. As was Peter Mayhew, but he
was sick I think. I expect them to be charging 15-20 at the next
event. With the turnout last time, there's no way they'll probably do
them that cheap again, but if they do, I'll try to help out if I can.
But no way I am doing as many as last time. And no special orders
either! Like this thread here and my advice to you, I learned from
last time....

Gary Kurtz is a director; so only real enthusiasts will care. I bet a
lot of people going will ask who he is.



On Sun, 8 Aug 2004 00:52:39 +0100, "fon"
wrote:

At celebration was it $12 each even for people like carrie fisher.

That
seemed like a great deal because you could probably buy one of each

for
less
then $500. The celebration photos are very nice as I've started to buy

then
I even bought a carrie Fisher off you a few months ago which is one of

my
prized autographs.
But we are having 30 Guests here and looking to pay at least double

that,
something is wrong somewhere. You make an even stronger point when you

say
most of the small roles come from the UK. Sometimes I find the guest

is
just
sat there most of the day because eveyone has already got your

autograph.
The was a pretty good guest announced last night that I'm not sure if

your
aware of and thats Gary Kurtz. He hasn't done much over here so will
probably be a £20 man
"dahoov2" wrote in message
.. .
Don't have to convince me... if you want to do this, go ahead. Like

I
said a bazillion times already; if you think someone will buy go for
it. But I sure as hell not pay that much! Moakare's card from

Topps
isn't getting much. It's plummeted recently ... I've seen several
sell in the 20-25 range and suspect, as time goes on, he will be

like
Warwick Davis, Bulloch and Prowse............. making their living

at
this and can't even sell ones you bought for $10 later on. Just

like
some of the ones I had.... no one interested at they're plentiful

and
a dime a dozen.


On Sat, 7 Aug 2004 21:43:40 +0100, "fon"


wrote:

and another who you guys say is easy to get


http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...tem=3814832009


again at $80

"fon" wrote in message
...
another





http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...8&item=3827235

3
2
3

at $80



"fon" wrote in message
...
here check it out for yourself






http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...8&item=3827445

4
2
3


"dahoov2" wrote in message
...
Dave Prowse signed here for 20.00 US which is just over 11

pounds
for
you... weird huh? He flies all the way across the ocean out

of
his
own country and charges LESS?! They sell for 15-25 here

usually,
but
in US dollars... so there's a big difference. A lot cheaper

for
you
to buy here than us to buy there.

At Celebration, autographs were 12.00 each US. But they were
limited
and collectible; so they got more in auctions because 1) they

were
so
cheap and 2) there were a TON of guests (over 40) and so you

could
collect them all.... and a lot of people wanted to do that.

For
a
while, they were selling from 30-150 each and now you can get

them
half that depending on who it is you're getting (Fisher and
Williams
sell higher).

Anyway, don't let me or anyone here tell you what you should

do.
If
you want to sell them go ahead. Now you know all the fees

involved
and
can judge better; and maybe some idea of what'll sell and

what
won't... and of that guy who sold 5, WHAT did he sell?

Something
very
popular and rarer or something common... take that into
consideration
too.


On Sat, 7 Aug 2004 16:45:34 +0100, "fon"

wrote:

A slighty different subject. What prices do guests tend to

charge
in
the
US.
Here £15 is pretty standard and £20 is seen more and more.

I've
even
seen
Dave Prowse sign for £25 which is about $45. I know we have

a
high
exchange
rate but the prices here are going mad. I hear at

collectamania
there
maybe
a few £25 ones.

You said about bookmarking the page. In the last 2 weeks

I've
seen
him
sell
about 5. I will be honest and say I was looking at going

next
week
for
1
autograph and thought after seeing his web site that if I

could
sell
a
few
at a price which I didn't thnk was to bad it would help

cover
my
costs.
Not
to MAKE money but help my costs. I've seen your posts and
understand
and
probably agree with everything you have said. I didn't think

about
it
enough, I didn't work out the costs fully. I made a mistake

and
am
honest
enough to say that. I didn't intend to go out and rip people

off.
Looking
at
my ebay listing the way I worded it sucked really and it

wasn't
fully
done
well.

In October we have 30 starwars guest who will be charging

between
£15
and
£25 even if all 30 charged £15 that makes £450, close to

about
$800.
How
much were the charges at Celebration II last year.


Jason
"dahoov2" wrote in message
.. .
bookmark that and note there are 17 buy it nows. Keep

track
and
see
how many he sells... that's all I have to say. This will

be
your
guide to whether what you are doing is a good idea or not.

But
one
word of advice if I may. If you are doing it to make

money
and
NOT
just to help collectors... then be honest. those are

prices
to
make
money; not just to help your buddies.

That's why some celebs stop signing... they see that like

you
saw
it,
get the absurd notion their sigs are worth that much and

see
dollar
signs and never sign again for free... thereby ending the

joy
of
collecting. There is no joy to paying 60.00 for an elf

who
was
on
screen two seconds with no lines. At least not for me. I

feel
all
I
am doing in lining someone's pockets when outside the

little
LOTR
community, nobody even knows who the hell those guys are!
Imagine
telling your neighbor who saw the film but does not know

the
names
of
the actors and asks you about your autograph. Here's the
conversation
I hear:

(Friend) wow, cool! That's from LOTR?

(You) Yeah, I bought it from a guy who got it for me at a
convention

(Friend) So you didn't meet him? How much did you pay for

it
if
you
don't mind my asking?

(You) No, I didn't meet him. Paid 60. for it

(Friend) that's a lot, but it's from LOTR right? Say,

where
in
the
movie was he again? I can't remember

(You) he was the guy in the battle scene on the wall ...
remember
that? He was the fifth guy in the back... you can see his

face
a
little after so and so say....

(friend) (I will leave this to your own imagination; I

am
sure
there's a varying about of explitive and other things to

insert
here)

When prices were 10 or 15 US dollars, it was tolerable.

they
went
to
20 and were getting pricy with shipping. Now, it's just

plain
RIDICULOUS. The buck stops here.


On Sat, 7 Aug 2004 15:46:17 +0100, "fon"

wrote:

click on this link if you thought I was expensive...








http://cgi6.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dl...ms&userid=fina

l
f
r
o
ntieruk&include=0&since=-1&sort=3&rows=50



"fon" wrote in message
...
Your points are very valued as as you can tell this was

going
to
be
my
first
time. Only 2 things if I may add to what you have said.

The
first
I
was
going to sent the photo insured which I guess is more

then
£2
(again
only
guessing) and secondly like I pointed out in my first

post
I'm
only
going
for the Jeremy Bulloch signed book so I have to travel

close
to
250
miles
and an entrance fee of £10 plus an absurd car park fee

of
£8.
I
am
the
first
to admit that I didn't look into it fully and rushed

things a
bit
but
the
event is next saturday.

Can I please add that if I had got things cheaper then

then
next
one
would
have been cheaper. It was a first attemp and caused a

lot
of
upset.

Jason
"dahoov2" wrote in message
...
On Sat, 07 Aug 2004 09:36:04 -0400, dahoov2

wrote:

Here for reference is Ebays Fees:

Starting Price,
Opening Value or
Reserve Price Insertion Fee
$0.01 - $0.99 $0.30
$1.00 - $9.99 $0.35
$10.00 - $24.99 $0.60
$25.00 - $49.99 $1.20
$50.00 - $199.99 $2.40
$200.00 - $499.99 $3.60
$500.00 and up $4.80

Your fee is 35 cents

Reserve fees:
Reserve Price Reserve Price Auction Fee
$0.01 - $49.99 $1.00
$50.00 - $199.99 $2.00
$200.00 and up 1% of Reserve Price (with a maximum

of
$100.00)

Did you have one?

Photo fees:
Feature Fee
First picture FREE!
Each additional Picture $0.15
Preview Picture Free
Slide Show $0.75
Supersize Image $0.75
Picture Pack $1.00 (a $1.75 value) for up to 6

pictures
or
$1.50
for

Yours was free I believe you only had one

Special things (I don't think you had anything -you

may
have
had
buy
it now, but that's only 5 cents)
Listing Upgrade Listing Upgrade Fee
Home Page Featured $39.95 (single quantity) or

$79.95
(quantity
of 2
or more)
Featured Plus! $19.95
Highlight $5.00
Border $3.00
Item Subtitle $0.50
Bold $1.00
Listing Designer* $0.10
Gallery $0.25
Gallery Featured $19.95
List in Two Categories Double the insertion and

listing
upgrades
fees
(excluding Scheduled Listings and Home Page

Featured).
10-Day Duration
The longest listing duration available $0.20
Scheduled Listings $0.10
Buy It Now $0.05
Gift Services $0.25
* No Listing Designer fee for Selling Manager Pro
subscribers.
Return to top

eBay Motors Listing Upgrade Fee
Motors Gallery Featured $99.95 for vehicles
$24.95 for non-vehicles
Highlight $5.00
Bold $4.00 for vehicles
$1.00 for non-vehicles
Border $4 for Vehicles
$3 for Parts & Accessories
Listing Designer Not available for vehicles
$0.10 for non-vehicles
Gallery FREE for vehicles
$0.25 non-vehicles
Featured Plus! $19.95
List in Two Categories Not Available for Motors
Listing Icon $2.00 for vehicles
$1.00 for non-vehicles
10-Day Duration
The longest listing duration available $5.00 for all
vehicle
listings
Buy It Now $1.00 for all vehicle listings
$0.05 for non-vehicles


Pay Pal Fees:
Open an Account
Send Money Free Free
Withdraw Funds Free for U.S. bank accounts
Fees for international banks Free for U.S. bank

accounts
Fees for international banks
Add funds Free for U.S. bank accounts
Fees for international banks Free for U.S. bank

accounts
Fees for international banks
Receive Funds Free Standard Rate: 2.9% + 30¢*
Merchant Rate: 2.2% + 30¢*

There is a conversion fee for overseas conversion of

1%
Total
is
3.9%
plus 30 cents. Always comes bout 4-5% for me

depending
on
price
sold
for.

I guess you do have some fees and you are adding in

a
couple
pounds
for your troubles...

Maybe Ebay wasn't the way to go to help collectors?

Just
a
thought.
That's more a dealer tool I think but I guess if you

are
paying
15-20
pounds per autograph, adding say 5 pounds for you

would
mean
20-25
pounds, add that to (let's assume you had a generic
listing
fee
with
Buy it now) 40 cents your total is 22 pence (at 1.8
conversion)
you
are at 20.22 -25.22 plus your 30 cent pay pal (17P)

you
are
at
20.39-25.39 plus your 3.9 (assuming you are

converting
funds
and
paying that extra 1%) is 80 cents (44p) - 99 cents

(55p).
You
are
at
20.83 or 25.94 in pounds..... add a pound for

toploader?
that's
21.83
or 25.94 and I'd round up. One standard 8x10 in a
toploader
from
the
UK to the US is? Can someone give a price from

recent.
Lets
say
one
pound whic is not 22.83-26.94. plus shiiping, No

more
than
2
pounds
at
most? I've put 4 68p stamps on which was too much

and
it
was
fine.
so total 24.83-28.94 in pounds. Let's round up,

giving
you a
small
margin for error and you're at 25-29 pounds for an
autograph
with
packing, shipping, fees and whatnot. Based on an

exchange
rate
of
1.80 US dollar per pound, you're talking expensive

but
better
than
60.00 ... 45 US dollars to 52 dollars and 20 cents.
Still
megabucks
for no names.....

should be 26.94 not 25.94 (first reference)

Hope this helped people here; I know those fees add

up!
That's
why
I
do generic listings and ask people not to pay Pay

Pal.
By
the
way,
for sellers, Bid Pay is free. It's the

opposite...buyers
pay
a
money
order fee and it's sent to the seller (but takes a

couple
days).
Cheapest way to go is money order but international

ones
can
be
expensive. And you have to be sure you do it in the

money
of
whatever
country is accepting it.

Anyway, the exchange rate here is absurd when

dealing
with
the
UK
and
I think that's the major part where the problem is.

I
don't
think
you
were being absurd too much, it is more of the whole

price
in
the
end
for a bunch of common people, people who did at

least
once
sign
free
or who didn't even have more than 2 seconds in the

movie
with
no
lines!

If you were talking about someone GOOD, then maybe

it'd
not
have
seemed so bad!



By adding your 5 pounds in for yourself, you're not

going
to
lose
money. If it costs a few pence more for shipping or
toploader,
you
are
still making a nice little profit per item.


On Sat, 7 Aug 2004 09:26:09 +0100, "fon"

wrote:

I am very sorry to all offended by my post. I have
removed
the
listing
from
ebay and will not be listing one for a pre order

again.
I stated in a previous post that I wasn't in it for

the
money
but
to
help
cover my costs of traveling to and from etc.

I did post at the end of my previous post asking if
someone
could
give
me
todds website but no one replied. This is however

not
an
excuse.

BDRX did reply to my previous post and said be

prepared
to
lose
money
at
first. I'm not in a position where I can lose money

so
thats
where
the
$60
came from. I did notice from the ebay listing I

made
one
extra
mistake
and I
added that postage was $5 but when in fact it was
included.
I
based
the
price on a £20 autograph. Ebay listing fee and

total
price
fee.
Paypal
fee.
Postage to where ever. Toploader. Plus and again

this
wasn't
clear
I
was
going to have the photo of the guest with your

photo
printed
off
at
a
local
shop not on my computer so you would have a great

COA.

I really am sorry that I offended people on here

and I
certainly
didn't
intend to do that. I've had 2 nasty e-mails in the

last
few
hours
containing
words to the effect of 'money grabbing w****r'

'f*****g
nob'
and
would
hope
this stop. Also in the last hour someone e-mailed

asking
could
I
get
an
autograph for them but my ansewer is no as I

probably
won't
go
now.

If you feel that I have offended you that much

please
reply
to
this
post
and
I won't post on this newsgroup again. I've made a

few
friends
on
here
and
sorry if I've spoiled that.


Jason



"dahoov2" wrote in message
. ..
Sorry, but 80.00 for a common signature, a person

who
was
an
extra
withno lines or who signs free, is ridiculous.

That's
just
my
opinion, but if you get that much; good luck!

60.00
is
crazy
too.
But hey, as others say here, I don't have to buy.

You weren't really explanatory enough I guess;

you
sounded
like
you
didn't want to profit, wanted to help collectors,

but
really
even
if
an autograph cost 20 pounds, that's no more than

35-38
dollars.
With
Top loader and mail and extra fee, you are making

still
more
profit
than most of the dealers!

How are autographs sold by dealers anyway? If

one
gets
them
free
but
the value is 20 say in the guides, do people list

like
that
or
what
they wish they can get? I think most list like

that
or
lower
and
let
the publuc decide. For you though, you'll have to

pay
for
the
autographs so they must start at least at that

price
plus
shipping
(and no one can demand you send in a toploader;

would
be
hice,
but
I've shipped and had shipped to me in plastic

sleeves
with
cardboard
backing-it's cheaper) On your auction, they'll

decide
too.
Would
be
curious if anyone goes for it.

I guess you should have said you will do it to

make
money.
Not
to
help collectors. Be forthright. At least if you

are,
at
least
people
won't accuse you of lying or hiding something.

The
most
they
can
say
is like I did, that you are charging a little bit
much....
For
me
at
leat, you seemed misleading. I thought you were

gonna
be
like
Todd
was
and just charge a couple extra bucks for the time

and
effort.

I can't advise you on canceling your auction or
changing
your
prices
or anything; that's for you to decide. You

should'nt
let
people
here
persude you on that. However, you might read

some
of
the
Ebay
rules
so that you don't get into trouble. As you have

seen
here,
some
people would seemingly turn you
in.......................
I'd
of
emailed you offlist to warn you as a couresy if

I'd
of
seen
it.
I
assumed from your posts, you were never evil

intended
about
anything.
So you have nothing to be sorry for; people

should
not
be
emailing
you
off list to harrass you either. Advice is one

thing;
grief
is
quite
another.

On Sat, 7 Aug 2004 04:08:41 +0100, "fon"

wrote:



This is where the idea come from and he cahrges

$80
per
signing.

http://www.finalfrontiertoys.co.uk/


He sells loads via ebay

Jason



"fon" wrote in

message
...
I've been collecting at cons for a few years

and
TTM
a
few
months.
My
feedback is 179 because in the last 6 months

I've
sold
my
LOTR
trading
card
collection and my Video collection. If you

check
the
items
that
I've
sold
none are anything to do with autographs.

If I've caused upset then I'm sorry and will

remove
the
ebay
auction
when
I
get home from work. I didn't mean to cause

anyone
any
grief.
I've had a few nasty e-mails in the last few

hours
which
has
been
a
little
upsetting so I'm not going to bother. This was

going
to
be
a
trial
price
to
see how it went. I didn't want to go to

Birminham
next
week
and
LOSE
money
but I can asure you the price would have come

down
by
Collectamania
once I
had worked out shipped and top loader prices

etc.

Last off how do I cancel an item on ebay.

Jason

"dahoov2" wrote in message

.. .
Well, he seemed to be asking for help in all

the
previoius
posts... I
see that he's sold... this is bothering me

now.
Think
I
might
have
been hoodwinked? Have been emailed offlist

a
lot
to
help
and
get
advice, so wonder what's up now.

So Fon, how long HAVE you been collecting?

On 6 Aug 2004 19:40:08 -0500, Autograph

Collector
wrote:

dahoov2 wrote:

Both of you are not very nice. I doubt

anyone
will
pay
that
much
for
common names such as those. I thought in

your
original
post
you
said you were not out to get money. These
people
charge
15-20
pounds
at most per sig at this convention. Even

with
shipping
and
a
small
fee, that's a lot of extra money. But

then
again,
I
guess
if
people
want to pay, who am I to say. I just

think
you
portrayed
yourself
different in earlier posts and I wonder

if I
can
trust
you
now!
Also, you appear to be selling one item,

to
one
person.
I
don't
see
multiples offered or a limit...Ebay isn't

gonna
like
that!

Autograph collector is right... that's

skirting
Ebay's
rules
and
you
can be kicked off...

However, the person that posted this is a
newbie;
you
didn't
have
to
go and report him. You could've emailed

and
told
him
privately
first
before posting it publicly.... and let

him
know.

Newbie? They sell all the time on eBay and

have
a
feedback
rating
of
179. They're no newbie.

AC



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Old August 8th 04, 02:22 PM
fon
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Sue

Don't you think this is a little high for a Dave Prowse

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...Name= MERC_VI



"fon" wrote in message
...
I find that with the Celebration II signed photos only carrie comes up a

lot
the smaller guests only appear from time to time and you need to catch

them
cheap while you can. I think the silver logo in the corner is fantastic

ans
really make the photo that much more special. I wish I could go to CIII

but
I'm getting married in Cuba next year so all money goes to that.

I can't see myself going next weekend unless they are someone special, I
want to meet Leslie Schofield as I've not done before and also want Jeremy
Bolluch 'flying solo' book as its limited to only 2000 copies I can't see

it
lasting to long.

Just read my local sunday paper and I hear Demi Moore will be here in

south
wales filming soon, any idea on what shes like in person she'll be with

her
boyfriend but I can't remember his name.
Also just found out that Jennifer Love Hewit was here last month so I'm
dissapointed as I've never had an In Person appart from at cons.


Jason
"dahoov2" wrote in message
...
Wow, 5-10? You got a FANTASTIC deal! Those even though way down in
price for a while (and I figure they'll go up just a little during
CIII) are still holding for more than originally paid. So you did get
a great deal. There was one guy making reprints and saying they were
'real' so be aware for that. Those were going about the prices you
mentioned. Supposedly, they were putting those holographic logos on
there so no one could copy them; and were gonna go after those who
did. But as always, people get away with crap.

Good luck on Ford; if you don't throw too much at him, I heard he was
nice, except I hear that since he was with Flockhart, he's not AS
nice.

On Sun, 8 Aug 2004 09:41:56 +0100, "fon"
wrote:

Having worked out the maths it would probably be about the same price

to
fly
out to celebration from here (air fares are getting cheaper by the day)

then
for me to drive to collectamania (350 miles round trip) stay in a hotel

and
get all 30 autographs. As yoda my say 'sense it makes not'

I'm going harrison ford hunting in a few weeks as he's taking a fancy

to
my
country Wales. He was here last month and is said to have loved it.

He's
apparently set to by a boat for over here. So hopefully I sense a

little
holiday coming on in North Wales.

Carrie fisher did a private convention in london last year. She was the

only
guest, and it was something like £20 entrance fee and £35 a signed

photo.
Limited to one a person and she would not allow photos to be taken of

her.
I've heard loads of bad reports about Billy Dee and he has canceled
Collectamania in the past as has Gary Kurtz. So I'll have to wait and

see
on
that one. I've picked up about 10 celebration II photos so far and most

have
been between $5 and $10 apart from your carrie fisher. I met Peter at

the
last collectamania and he didn't even look up, didn't ask if I wanted

made
out to anybody, so I was a little dissapointed.

Jason
"dahoov2" wrote in message
news Yeah, Carrie charges a lot more these days and Hamill is insane too..
now if you're talking 60-80 for Harrison Ford, lol, we have a deal
working ... Now that is one to me that would be more worth it.

Every autograph at CII was only 12.00 at the time, but truth? Carrie
Fisher's no one would sell for that low if they stood in line. I

heard
people stood in line over 8 hours and didn't even get the

sig...wasted
their whole entrance fee (which ty the was was pricy) and didn't get
to see anything! And to top it off, she's not a very nice woman. I
got in early with the help of someone.... and I was probably in line
on only 50 back at most and by the time I got there, they'd changed
the amount you could get, the inscriptions you were allowed and she
was NASTY. Billy Dee's line was crazy too, you probably had to wait

a
couple hour for him. He too, wasn't very nice. He grunted and

hardly
looked up and was bothered to be there. As was Peter Mayhew, but he
was sick I think. I expect them to be charging 15-20 at the next
event. With the turnout last time, there's no way they'll probably

do
them that cheap again, but if they do, I'll try to help out if I can.
But no way I am doing as many as last time. And no special orders
either! Like this thread here and my advice to you, I learned from
last time....

Gary Kurtz is a director; so only real enthusiasts will care. I bet

a
lot of people going will ask who he is.



On Sun, 8 Aug 2004 00:52:39 +0100, "fon"
wrote:

At celebration was it $12 each even for people like carrie fisher.

That
seemed like a great deal because you could probably buy one of each

for
less
then $500. The celebration photos are very nice as I've started to

buy
then
I even bought a carrie Fisher off you a few months ago which is one

of
my
prized autographs.
But we are having 30 Guests here and looking to pay at least double

that,
something is wrong somewhere. You make an even stronger point when

you
say
most of the small roles come from the UK. Sometimes I find the guest

is
just
sat there most of the day because eveyone has already got your

autograph.
The was a pretty good guest announced last night that I'm not sure

if
your
aware of and thats Gary Kurtz. He hasn't done much over here so will
probably be a £20 man
"dahoov2" wrote in message
.. .
Don't have to convince me... if you want to do this, go ahead.

Like
I
said a bazillion times already; if you think someone will buy go

for
it. But I sure as hell not pay that much! Moakare's card from

Topps
isn't getting much. It's plummeted recently ... I've seen several
sell in the 20-25 range and suspect, as time goes on, he will be

like
Warwick Davis, Bulloch and Prowse............. making their living

at
this and can't even sell ones you bought for $10 later on. Just

like
some of the ones I had.... no one interested at they're plentiful

and
a dime a dozen.


On Sat, 7 Aug 2004 21:43:40 +0100, "fon"


wrote:

and another who you guys say is easy to get



http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...tem=3814832009


again at $80

"fon" wrote in message
...
another






http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...8&item=3827235

3
2
3

at $80



"fon" wrote in message
...
here check it out for yourself







http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...8&item=3827445

4
2
3


"dahoov2" wrote in message
...
Dave Prowse signed here for 20.00 US which is just over 11
pounds
for
you... weird huh? He flies all the way across the ocean

out
of
his
own country and charges LESS?! They sell for 15-25 here
usually,
but
in US dollars... so there's a big difference. A lot

cheaper
for
you
to buy here than us to buy there.

At Celebration, autographs were 12.00 each US. But they

were
limited
and collectible; so they got more in auctions because 1)

they
were
so
cheap and 2) there were a TON of guests (over 40) and so

you
could
collect them all.... and a lot of people wanted to do that.

For
a
while, they were selling from 30-150 each and now you can

get
them
half that depending on who it is you're getting (Fisher and
Williams
sell higher).

Anyway, don't let me or anyone here tell you what you

should
do.
If
you want to sell them go ahead. Now you know all the fees
involved
and
can judge better; and maybe some idea of what'll sell and

what
won't... and of that guy who sold 5, WHAT did he sell?
Something
very
popular and rarer or something common... take that into
consideration
too.


On Sat, 7 Aug 2004 16:45:34 +0100, "fon"

wrote:

A slighty different subject. What prices do guests tend to
charge
in
the
US.
Here £15 is pretty standard and £20 is seen more and more.

I've
even
seen
Dave Prowse sign for £25 which is about $45. I know we

have
a
high
exchange
rate but the prices here are going mad. I hear at

collectamania
there
maybe
a few £25 ones.

You said about bookmarking the page. In the last 2 weeks

I've
seen
him
sell
about 5. I will be honest and say I was looking at going

next
week
for
1
autograph and thought after seeing his web site that if I

could
sell
a
few
at a price which I didn't thnk was to bad it would help

cover
my
costs.
Not
to MAKE money but help my costs. I've seen your posts and
understand
and
probably agree with everything you have said. I didn't

think
about
it
enough, I didn't work out the costs fully. I made a

mistake
and
am
honest
enough to say that. I didn't intend to go out and rip

people
off.
Looking
at
my ebay listing the way I worded it sucked really and it

wasn't
fully
done
well.

In October we have 30 starwars guest who will be charging
between
£15
and
£25 even if all 30 charged £15 that makes £450, close to

about
$800.
How
much were the charges at Celebration II last year.


Jason
"dahoov2" wrote in message
.. .
bookmark that and note there are 17 buy it nows. Keep

track
and
see
how many he sells... that's all I have to say. This

will
be
your
guide to whether what you are doing is a good idea or

not.
But
one
word of advice if I may. If you are doing it to make

money
and
NOT
just to help collectors... then be honest. those are

prices
to
make
money; not just to help your buddies.

That's why some celebs stop signing... they see that

like
you
saw
it,
get the absurd notion their sigs are worth that much and

see
dollar
signs and never sign again for free... thereby ending

the
joy
of
collecting. There is no joy to paying 60.00 for an elf

who
was
on
screen two seconds with no lines. At least not for me.

I
feel
all
I
am doing in lining someone's pockets when outside the

little
LOTR
community, nobody even knows who the hell those guys

are!
Imagine
telling your neighbor who saw the film but does not know

the
names
of
the actors and asks you about your autograph. Here's the
conversation
I hear:

(Friend) wow, cool! That's from LOTR?

(You) Yeah, I bought it from a guy who got it for me at

a
convention

(Friend) So you didn't meet him? How much did you pay

for
it
if
you
don't mind my asking?

(You) No, I didn't meet him. Paid 60. for it

(Friend) that's a lot, but it's from LOTR right? Say,

where
in
the
movie was he again? I can't remember

(You) he was the guy in the battle scene on the wall

....
remember
that? He was the fifth guy in the back... you can see

his
face
a
little after so and so say....

(friend) (I will leave this to your own imagination;

I
am
sure
there's a varying about of explitive and other things to
insert
here)

When prices were 10 or 15 US dollars, it was tolerable.

they
went
to
20 and were getting pricy with shipping. Now, it's just
plain
RIDICULOUS. The buck stops here.


On Sat, 7 Aug 2004 15:46:17 +0100, "fon"

wrote:

click on this link if you thought I was expensive...









http://cgi6.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dl...ms&userid=fina

l
f
r
o
ntieruk&include=0&since=-1&sort=3&rows=50



"fon" wrote in message
...
Your points are very valued as as you can tell this

was
going
to
be
my
first
time. Only 2 things if I may add to what you have

said.
The
first
I
was
going to sent the photo insured which I guess is more

then
£2
(again
only
guessing) and secondly like I pointed out in my first

post
I'm
only
going
for the Jeremy Bulloch signed book so I have to

travel
close
to
250
miles
and an entrance fee of £10 plus an absurd car park

fee
of
£8.
I
am
the
first
to admit that I didn't look into it fully and rushed
things a
bit
but
the
event is next saturday.

Can I please add that if I had got things cheaper

then
then
next
one
would
have been cheaper. It was a first attemp and caused a

lot
of
upset.

Jason
"dahoov2" wrote in message
...
On Sat, 07 Aug 2004 09:36:04 -0400, dahoov2

wrote:

Here for reference is Ebays Fees:

Starting Price,
Opening Value or
Reserve Price Insertion Fee
$0.01 - $0.99 $0.30
$1.00 - $9.99 $0.35
$10.00 - $24.99 $0.60
$25.00 - $49.99 $1.20
$50.00 - $199.99 $2.40
$200.00 - $499.99 $3.60
$500.00 and up $4.80

Your fee is 35 cents

Reserve fees:
Reserve Price Reserve Price Auction Fee
$0.01 - $49.99 $1.00
$50.00 - $199.99 $2.00
$200.00 and up 1% of Reserve Price (with a maximum

of
$100.00)

Did you have one?

Photo fees:
Feature Fee
First picture FREE!
Each additional Picture $0.15
Preview Picture Free
Slide Show $0.75
Supersize Image $0.75
Picture Pack $1.00 (a $1.75 value) for up to 6

pictures
or
$1.50
for

Yours was free I believe you only had one

Special things (I don't think you had

anything -you
may
have
had
buy
it now, but that's only 5 cents)
Listing Upgrade Listing Upgrade Fee
Home Page Featured $39.95 (single quantity) or

$79.95
(quantity
of 2
or more)
Featured Plus! $19.95
Highlight $5.00
Border $3.00
Item Subtitle $0.50
Bold $1.00
Listing Designer* $0.10
Gallery $0.25
Gallery Featured $19.95
List in Two Categories Double the insertion and

listing
upgrades
fees
(excluding Scheduled Listings and Home Page

Featured).
10-Day Duration
The longest listing duration available $0.20
Scheduled Listings $0.10
Buy It Now $0.05
Gift Services $0.25
* No Listing Designer fee for Selling Manager Pro
subscribers.
Return to top

eBay Motors Listing Upgrade Fee
Motors Gallery Featured $99.95 for vehicles
$24.95 for non-vehicles
Highlight $5.00
Bold $4.00 for vehicles
$1.00 for non-vehicles
Border $4 for Vehicles
$3 for Parts & Accessories
Listing Designer Not available for vehicles
$0.10 for non-vehicles
Gallery FREE for vehicles
$0.25 non-vehicles
Featured Plus! $19.95
List in Two Categories Not Available for Motors
Listing Icon $2.00 for vehicles
$1.00 for non-vehicles
10-Day Duration
The longest listing duration available $5.00 for

all
vehicle
listings
Buy It Now $1.00 for all vehicle listings
$0.05 for non-vehicles


Pay Pal Fees:
Open an Account
Send Money Free Free
Withdraw Funds Free for U.S. bank accounts
Fees for international banks Free for U.S. bank
accounts
Fees for international banks
Add funds Free for U.S. bank accounts
Fees for international banks Free for U.S. bank
accounts
Fees for international banks
Receive Funds Free Standard Rate: 2.9% + 30¢*
Merchant Rate: 2.2% + 30¢*

There is a conversion fee for overseas conversion

of
1%
Total
is
3.9%
plus 30 cents. Always comes bout 4-5% for me

depending
on
price
sold
for.

I guess you do have some fees and you are adding

in
a
couple
pounds
for your troubles...

Maybe Ebay wasn't the way to go to help

collectors?
Just
a
thought.
That's more a dealer tool I think but I guess if

you
are
paying
15-20
pounds per autograph, adding say 5 pounds for you

would
mean
20-25
pounds, add that to (let's assume you had a

generic
listing
fee
with
Buy it now) 40 cents your total is 22 pence (at

1.8
conversion)
you
are at 20.22 -25.22 plus your 30 cent pay pal

(17P)
you
are
at
20.39-25.39 plus your 3.9 (assuming you are

converting
funds
and
paying that extra 1%) is 80 cents (44p) - 99

cents
(55p).
You
are
at
20.83 or 25.94 in pounds..... add a pound for
toploader?
that's
21.83
or 25.94 and I'd round up. One standard 8x10 in

a
toploader
from
the
UK to the US is? Can someone give a price from

recent.
Lets
say
one
pound whic is not 22.83-26.94. plus shiiping, No

more
than
2
pounds
at
most? I've put 4 68p stamps on which was too much

and
it
was
fine.
so total 24.83-28.94 in pounds. Let's round up,

giving
you a
small
margin for error and you're at 25-29 pounds for an
autograph
with
packing, shipping, fees and whatnot. Based on an
exchange
rate
of
1.80 US dollar per pound, you're talking expensive

but
better
than
60.00 ... 45 US dollars to 52 dollars and 20

cents.
Still
megabucks
for no names.....

should be 26.94 not 25.94 (first reference)

Hope this helped people here; I know those fees

add
up!
That's
why
I
do generic listings and ask people not to pay Pay

Pal.
By
the
way,
for sellers, Bid Pay is free. It's the
opposite...buyers
pay
a
money
order fee and it's sent to the seller (but takes a
couple
days).
Cheapest way to go is money order but

international
ones
can
be
expensive. And you have to be sure you do it in

the
money
of
whatever
country is accepting it.

Anyway, the exchange rate here is absurd when

dealing
with
the
UK
and
I think that's the major part where the problem

is.
I
don't
think
you
were being absurd too much, it is more of the

whole
price
in
the
end
for a bunch of common people, people who did at

least
once
sign
free
or who didn't even have more than 2 seconds in the
movie
with
no
lines!

If you were talking about someone GOOD, then maybe

it'd
not
have
seemed so bad!



By adding your 5 pounds in for yourself, you're not
going
to
lose
money. If it costs a few pence more for shipping or
toploader,
you
are
still making a nice little profit per item.


On Sat, 7 Aug 2004 09:26:09 +0100, "fon"

wrote:

I am very sorry to all offended by my post. I

have
removed
the
listing
from
ebay and will not be listing one for a pre order
again.
I stated in a previous post that I wasn't in it

for
the
money
but
to
help
cover my costs of traveling to and from etc.

I did post at the end of my previous post asking

if
someone
could
give
me
todds website but no one replied. This is however

not
an
excuse.

BDRX did reply to my previous post and said be
prepared
to
lose
money
at
first. I'm not in a position where I can lose

money
so
thats
where
the
$60
came from. I did notice from the ebay listing I

made
one
extra
mistake
and I
added that postage was $5 but when in fact it was
included.
I
based
the
price on a £20 autograph. Ebay listing fee and

total
price
fee.
Paypal
fee.
Postage to where ever. Toploader. Plus and again

this
wasn't
clear
I
was
going to have the photo of the guest with your

photo
printed
off
at
a
local
shop not on my computer so you would have a great

COA.

I really am sorry that I offended people on here

and I
certainly
didn't
intend to do that. I've had 2 nasty e-mails in

the
last
few
hours
containing
words to the effect of 'money grabbing w****r'
'f*****g
nob'
and
would
hope
this stop. Also in the last hour someone e-mailed
asking
could
I
get
an
autograph for them but my ansewer is no as I

probably
won't
go
now.

If you feel that I have offended you that much

please
reply
to
this
post
and
I won't post on this newsgroup again. I've made a

few
friends
on
here
and
sorry if I've spoiled that.


Jason



"dahoov2" wrote in message

. ..
Sorry, but 80.00 for a common signature, a

person
who
was
an
extra
withno lines or who signs free, is ridiculous.
That's
just
my
opinion, but if you get that much; good luck!

60.00
is
crazy
too.
But hey, as others say here, I don't have to

buy.

You weren't really explanatory enough I guess;

you
sounded
like
you
didn't want to profit, wanted to help

collectors,
but
really
even
if
an autograph cost 20 pounds, that's no more

than
35-38
dollars.
With
Top loader and mail and extra fee, you are

making
still
more
profit
than most of the dealers!

How are autographs sold by dealers anyway? If

one
gets
them
free
but
the value is 20 say in the guides, do people

list
like
that
or
what
they wish they can get? I think most list like

that
or
lower
and
let
the publuc decide. For you though, you'll have

to
pay
for
the
autographs so they must start at least at that

price
plus
shipping
(and no one can demand you send in a toploader;
would
be
hice,
but
I've shipped and had shipped to me in plastic
sleeves
with
cardboard
backing-it's cheaper) On your auction, they'll
decide
too.
Would
be
curious if anyone goes for it.

I guess you should have said you will do it to

make
money.
Not
to
help collectors. Be forthright. At least if

you
are,
at
least
people
won't accuse you of lying or hiding something.

The
most
they
can
say
is like I did, that you are charging a little

bit
much....
For
me
at
leat, you seemed misleading. I thought you were
gonna
be
like
Todd
was
and just charge a couple extra bucks for the

time
and
effort.

I can't advise you on canceling your auction or
changing
your
prices
or anything; that's for you to decide. You
should'nt
let
people
here
persude you on that. However, you might read

some
of
the
Ebay
rules
so that you don't get into trouble. As you

have
seen
here,
some
people would seemingly turn you
in.......................
I'd
of
emailed you offlist to warn you as a couresy if

I'd
of
seen
it.
I
assumed from your posts, you were never evil
intended
about
anything.
So you have nothing to be sorry for; people

should
not
be
emailing
you
off list to harrass you either. Advice is one
thing;
grief
is
quite
another.

On Sat, 7 Aug 2004 04:08:41 +0100, "fon"

wrote:



This is where the idea come from and he

cahrges
$80
per
signing.

http://www.finalfrontiertoys.co.uk/


He sells loads via ebay

Jason



"fon" wrote in

message
...
I've been collecting at cons for a few years

and
TTM
a
few
months.
My
feedback is 179 because in the last 6 months

I've
sold
my
LOTR
trading
card
collection and my Video collection. If you

check
the
items
that
I've
sold
none are anything to do with autographs.

If I've caused upset then I'm sorry and will
remove
the
ebay
auction
when
I
get home from work. I didn't mean to cause

anyone
any
grief.
I've had a few nasty e-mails in the last few
hours
which
has
been
a
little
upsetting so I'm not going to bother. This

was
going
to
be
a
trial
price
to
see how it went. I didn't want to go to

Birminham
next
week
and
LOSE
money
but I can asure you the price would have

come
down
by
Collectamania
once I
had worked out shipped and top loader prices

etc.

Last off how do I cancel an item on ebay.

Jason

"dahoov2" wrote in message

.. .
Well, he seemed to be asking for help in

all
the
previoius
posts... I
see that he's sold... this is bothering me

now.
Think
I
might
have
been hoodwinked? Have been emailed

offlist
a
lot
to
help
and
get
advice, so wonder what's up now.

So Fon, how long HAVE you been collecting?

On 6 Aug 2004 19:40:08 -0500, Autograph
Collector
wrote:

dahoov2 wrote:

Both of you are not very nice. I doubt
anyone
will
pay
that
much
for
common names such as those. I thought

in
your
original
post
you
said you were not out to get money.

These
people
charge
15-20
pounds
at most per sig at this convention.

Even
with
shipping
and
a
small
fee, that's a lot of extra money. But

then
again,
I
guess
if
people
want to pay, who am I to say. I just

think
you
portrayed
yourself
different in earlier posts and I wonder

if I
can
trust
you
now!
Also, you appear to be selling one

item,
to
one
person.
I
don't
see
multiples offered or a limit...Ebay

isn't
gonna
like
that!

Autograph collector is right... that's
skirting
Ebay's
rules
and
you
can be kicked off...

However, the person that posted this is

a
newbie;
you
didn't
have
to
go and report him. You could've

emailed
and
told
him
privately
first
before posting it publicly.... and let

him
know.

Newbie? They sell all the time on eBay

and
have
a
feedback
rating
of
179. They're no newbie.

AC



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Old August 8th 04, 05:29 PM
dahoov2
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INSANE. The person bidding is bidding with a feedback of 0 though. I
think they're scamming the person selling it. Now Prowse will sign
via his site much cheaper. So WHY are these people doing that?
People are going nuts. I have one thing to say: A fool and his money
are soon parted.

On Sun, 8 Aug 2004 14:22:18 +0100, "fon"
wrote:

Sue

Don't you think this is a little high for a Dave Prowse

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...Name= MERC_VI



"fon" wrote in message
...
I find that with the Celebration II signed photos only carrie comes up a

lot
the smaller guests only appear from time to time and you need to catch

them
cheap while you can. I think the silver logo in the corner is fantastic

ans
really make the photo that much more special. I wish I could go to CIII

but
I'm getting married in Cuba next year so all money goes to that.

I can't see myself going next weekend unless they are someone special, I
want to meet Leslie Schofield as I've not done before and also want Jeremy
Bolluch 'flying solo' book as its limited to only 2000 copies I can't see

it
lasting to long.

Just read my local sunday paper and I hear Demi Moore will be here in

south
wales filming soon, any idea on what shes like in person she'll be with

her
boyfriend but I can't remember his name.
Also just found out that Jennifer Love Hewit was here last month so I'm
dissapointed as I've never had an In Person appart from at cons.


Jason
"dahoov2" wrote in message
...
Wow, 5-10? You got a FANTASTIC deal! Those even though way down in
price for a while (and I figure they'll go up just a little during
CIII) are still holding for more than originally paid. So you did get
a great deal. There was one guy making reprints and saying they were
'real' so be aware for that. Those were going about the prices you
mentioned. Supposedly, they were putting those holographic logos on
there so no one could copy them; and were gonna go after those who
did. But as always, people get away with crap.

Good luck on Ford; if you don't throw too much at him, I heard he was
nice, except I hear that since he was with Flockhart, he's not AS
nice.

On Sun, 8 Aug 2004 09:41:56 +0100, "fon"
wrote:

Having worked out the maths it would probably be about the same price

to
fly
out to celebration from here (air fares are getting cheaper by the day)

then
for me to drive to collectamania (350 miles round trip) stay in a hotel

and
get all 30 autographs. As yoda my say 'sense it makes not'

I'm going harrison ford hunting in a few weeks as he's taking a fancy

to
my
country Wales. He was here last month and is said to have loved it.

He's
apparently set to by a boat for over here. So hopefully I sense a

little
holiday coming on in North Wales.

Carrie fisher did a private convention in london last year. She was the

only
guest, and it was something like £20 entrance fee and £35 a signed

photo.
Limited to one a person and she would not allow photos to be taken of

her.
I've heard loads of bad reports about Billy Dee and he has canceled
Collectamania in the past as has Gary Kurtz. So I'll have to wait and

see
on
that one. I've picked up about 10 celebration II photos so far and most

have
been between $5 and $10 apart from your carrie fisher. I met Peter at

the
last collectamania and he didn't even look up, didn't ask if I wanted

made
out to anybody, so I was a little dissapointed.

Jason
"dahoov2" wrote in message
news Yeah, Carrie charges a lot more these days and Hamill is insane too..
now if you're talking 60-80 for Harrison Ford, lol, we have a deal
working ... Now that is one to me that would be more worth it.

Every autograph at CII was only 12.00 at the time, but truth? Carrie
Fisher's no one would sell for that low if they stood in line. I

heard
people stood in line over 8 hours and didn't even get the

sig...wasted
their whole entrance fee (which ty the was was pricy) and didn't get
to see anything! And to top it off, she's not a very nice woman. I
got in early with the help of someone.... and I was probably in line
on only 50 back at most and by the time I got there, they'd changed
the amount you could get, the inscriptions you were allowed and she
was NASTY. Billy Dee's line was crazy too, you probably had to wait

a
couple hour for him. He too, wasn't very nice. He grunted and

hardly
looked up and was bothered to be there. As was Peter Mayhew, but he
was sick I think. I expect them to be charging 15-20 at the next
event. With the turnout last time, there's no way they'll probably

do
them that cheap again, but if they do, I'll try to help out if I can.
But no way I am doing as many as last time. And no special orders
either! Like this thread here and my advice to you, I learned from
last time....

Gary Kurtz is a director; so only real enthusiasts will care. I bet

a
lot of people going will ask who he is.



On Sun, 8 Aug 2004 00:52:39 +0100, "fon"
wrote:

At celebration was it $12 each even for people like carrie fisher.

That
seemed like a great deal because you could probably buy one of each

for
less
then $500. The celebration photos are very nice as I've started to

buy
then
I even bought a carrie Fisher off you a few months ago which is one

of
my
prized autographs.
But we are having 30 Guests here and looking to pay at least double

that,
something is wrong somewhere. You make an even stronger point when

you
say
most of the small roles come from the UK. Sometimes I find the guest

is
just
sat there most of the day because eveyone has already got your

autograph.
The was a pretty good guest announced last night that I'm not sure

if
your
aware of and thats Gary Kurtz. He hasn't done much over here so will
probably be a £20 man
"dahoov2" wrote in message
.. .
Don't have to convince me... if you want to do this, go ahead.

Like
I
said a bazillion times already; if you think someone will buy go

for
it. But I sure as hell not pay that much! Moakare's card from

Topps
isn't getting much. It's plummeted recently ... I've seen several
sell in the 20-25 range and suspect, as time goes on, he will be

like
Warwick Davis, Bulloch and Prowse............. making their living

at
this and can't even sell ones you bought for $10 later on. Just

like
some of the ones I had.... no one interested at they're plentiful

and
a dime a dozen.


On Sat, 7 Aug 2004 21:43:40 +0100, "fon"


wrote:

and another who you guys say is easy to get



http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...tem=3814832009


again at $80

"fon" wrote in message
...
another






http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...8&item=3827235

3
2
3

at $80



"fon" wrote in message
...
here check it out for yourself







http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...8&item=3827445

4
2
3


"dahoov2" wrote in message
...
Dave Prowse signed here for 20.00 US which is just over 11
pounds
for
you... weird huh? He flies all the way across the ocean

out
of
his
own country and charges LESS?! They sell for 15-25 here
usually,
but
in US dollars... so there's a big difference. A lot

cheaper
for
you
to buy here than us to buy there.

At Celebration, autographs were 12.00 each US. But they

were
limited
and collectible; so they got more in auctions because 1)

they
were
so
cheap and 2) there were a TON of guests (over 40) and so

you
could
collect them all.... and a lot of people wanted to do that.

For
a
while, they were selling from 30-150 each and now you can

get
them
half that depending on who it is you're getting (Fisher and
Williams
sell higher).

Anyway, don't let me or anyone here tell you what you

should
do.
If
you want to sell them go ahead. Now you know all the fees
involved
and
can judge better; and maybe some idea of what'll sell and

what
won't... and of that guy who sold 5, WHAT did he sell?
Something
very
popular and rarer or something common... take that into
consideration
too.


On Sat, 7 Aug 2004 16:45:34 +0100, "fon"

wrote:

A slighty different subject. What prices do guests tend to
charge
in
the
US.
Here £15 is pretty standard and £20 is seen more and more.

I've
even
seen
Dave Prowse sign for £25 which is about $45. I know we

have
a
high
exchange
rate but the prices here are going mad. I hear at

collectamania
there
maybe
a few £25 ones.

You said about bookmarking the page. In the last 2 weeks

I've
seen
him
sell
about 5. I will be honest and say I was looking at going

next
week
for
1
autograph and thought after seeing his web site that if I

could
sell
a
few
at a price which I didn't thnk was to bad it would help

cover
my
costs.
Not
to MAKE money but help my costs. I've seen your posts and
understand
and
probably agree with everything you have said. I didn't

think
about
it
enough, I didn't work out the costs fully. I made a

mistake
and
am
honest
enough to say that. I didn't intend to go out and rip

people
off.
Looking
at
my ebay listing the way I worded it sucked really and it

wasn't
fully
done
well.

In October we have 30 starwars guest who will be charging
between
£15
and
£25 even if all 30 charged £15 that makes £450, close to

about
$800.
How
much were the charges at Celebration II last year.


Jason
"dahoov2" wrote in message
.. .
bookmark that and note there are 17 buy it nows. Keep

track
and
see
how many he sells... that's all I have to say. This

will
be
your
guide to whether what you are doing is a good idea or

not.
But
one
word of advice if I may. If you are doing it to make

money
and
NOT
just to help collectors... then be honest. those are

prices
to
make
money; not just to help your buddies.

That's why some celebs stop signing... they see that

like
you
saw
it,
get the absurd notion their sigs are worth that much and

see
dollar
signs and never sign again for free... thereby ending

the
joy
of
collecting. There is no joy to paying 60.00 for an elf

who
was
on
screen two seconds with no lines. At least not for me.

I
feel
all
I
am doing in lining someone's pockets when outside the

little
LOTR
community, nobody even knows who the hell those guys

are!
Imagine
telling your neighbor who saw the film but does not know

the
names
of
the actors and asks you about your autograph. Here's the
conversation
I hear:

(Friend) wow, cool! That's from LOTR?

(You) Yeah, I bought it from a guy who got it for me at

a
convention

(Friend) So you didn't meet him? How much did you pay

for
it
if
you
don't mind my asking?

(You) No, I didn't meet him. Paid 60. for it

(Friend) that's a lot, but it's from LOTR right? Say,

where
in
the
movie was he again? I can't remember

(You) he was the guy in the battle scene on the wall

...
remember
that? He was the fifth guy in the back... you can see

his
face
a
little after so and so say....

(friend) (I will leave this to your own imagination;

I
am
sure
there's a varying about of explitive and other things to
insert
here)

When prices were 10 or 15 US dollars, it was tolerable.

they
went
to
20 and were getting pricy with shipping. Now, it's just
plain
RIDICULOUS. The buck stops here.


On Sat, 7 Aug 2004 15:46:17 +0100, "fon"

wrote:

click on this link if you thought I was expensive...









http://cgi6.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dl...ms&userid=fina

l
f
r
o
ntieruk&include=0&since=-1&sort=3&rows=50



"fon" wrote in message
...
Your points are very valued as as you can tell this

was
going
to
be
my
first
time. Only 2 things if I may add to what you have

said.
The
first
I
was
going to sent the photo insured which I guess is more

then
£2
(again
only
guessing) and secondly like I pointed out in my first

post
I'm
only
going
for the Jeremy Bulloch signed book so I have to

travel
close
to
250
miles
and an entrance fee of £10 plus an absurd car park

fee
of
£8.
I
am
the
first
to admit that I didn't look into it fully and rushed
things a
bit
but
the
event is next saturday.

Can I please add that if I had got things cheaper

then
then
next
one
would
have been cheaper. It was a first attemp and caused a

lot
of
upset.

Jason
"dahoov2" wrote in message
...
On Sat, 07 Aug 2004 09:36:04 -0400, dahoov2

wrote:

Here for reference is Ebays Fees:

Starting Price,
Opening Value or
Reserve Price Insertion Fee
$0.01 - $0.99 $0.30
$1.00 - $9.99 $0.35
$10.00 - $24.99 $0.60
$25.00 - $49.99 $1.20
$50.00 - $199.99 $2.40
$200.00 - $499.99 $3.60
$500.00 and up $4.80

Your fee is 35 cents

Reserve fees:
Reserve Price Reserve Price Auction Fee
$0.01 - $49.99 $1.00
$50.00 - $199.99 $2.00
$200.00 and up 1% of Reserve Price (with a maximum

of
$100.00)

Did you have one?

Photo fees:
Feature Fee
First picture FREE!
Each additional Picture $0.15
Preview Picture Free
Slide Show $0.75
Supersize Image $0.75
Picture Pack $1.00 (a $1.75 value) for up to 6

pictures
or
$1.50
for

Yours was free I believe you only had one

Special things (I don't think you had

anything -you
may
have
had
buy
it now, but that's only 5 cents)
Listing Upgrade Listing Upgrade Fee
Home Page Featured $39.95 (single quantity) or

$79.95
(quantity
of 2
or more)
Featured Plus! $19.95
Highlight $5.00
Border $3.00
Item Subtitle $0.50
Bold $1.00
Listing Designer* $0.10
Gallery $0.25
Gallery Featured $19.95
List in Two Categories Double the insertion and

listing
upgrades
fees
(excluding Scheduled Listings and Home Page

Featured).
10-Day Duration
The longest listing duration available $0.20
Scheduled Listings $0.10
Buy It Now $0.05
Gift Services $0.25
* No Listing Designer fee for Selling Manager Pro
subscribers.
Return to top

eBay Motors Listing Upgrade Fee
Motors Gallery Featured $99.95 for vehicles
$24.95 for non-vehicles
Highlight $5.00
Bold $4.00 for vehicles
$1.00 for non-vehicles
Border $4 for Vehicles
$3 for Parts & Accessories
Listing Designer Not available for vehicles
$0.10 for non-vehicles
Gallery FREE for vehicles
$0.25 non-vehicles
Featured Plus! $19.95
List in Two Categories Not Available for Motors
Listing Icon $2.00 for vehicles
$1.00 for non-vehicles
10-Day Duration
The longest listing duration available $5.00 for

all
vehicle
listings
Buy It Now $1.00 for all vehicle listings
$0.05 for non-vehicles


Pay Pal Fees:
Open an Account
Send Money Free Free
Withdraw Funds Free for U.S. bank accounts
Fees for international banks Free for U.S. bank
accounts
Fees for international banks
Add funds Free for U.S. bank accounts
Fees for international banks Free for U.S. bank
accounts
Fees for international banks
Receive Funds Free Standard Rate: 2.9% + 30¢*
Merchant Rate: 2.2% + 30¢*

There is a conversion fee for overseas conversion

of
1%
Total
is
3.9%
plus 30 cents. Always comes bout 4-5% for me

depending
on
price
sold
for.

I guess you do have some fees and you are adding

in
a
couple
pounds
for your troubles...

Maybe Ebay wasn't the way to go to help

collectors?
Just
a
thought.
That's more a dealer tool I think but I guess if

you
are
paying
15-20
pounds per autograph, adding say 5 pounds for you

would
mean
20-25
pounds, add that to (let's assume you had a

generic
listing
fee
with
Buy it now) 40 cents your total is 22 pence (at

1.8
conversion)
you
are at 20.22 -25.22 plus your 30 cent pay pal

(17P)
you
are
at
20.39-25.39 plus your 3.9 (assuming you are

converting
funds
and
paying that extra 1%) is 80 cents (44p) - 99

cents
(55p).
You
are
at
20.83 or 25.94 in pounds..... add a pound for
toploader?
that's
21.83
or 25.94 and I'd round up. One standard 8x10 in

a
toploader
from
the
UK to the US is? Can someone give a price from

recent.
Lets
say
one
pound whic is not 22.83-26.94. plus shiiping, No

more
than
2
pounds
at
most? I've put 4 68p stamps on which was too much

and
it
was
fine.
so total 24.83-28.94 in pounds. Let's round up,

giving
you a
small
margin for error and you're at 25-29 pounds for an
autograph
with
packing, shipping, fees and whatnot. Based on an
exchange
rate
of
1.80 US dollar per pound, you're talking expensive

but
better
than
60.00 ... 45 US dollars to 52 dollars and 20

cents.
Still
megabucks
for no names.....

should be 26.94 not 25.94 (first reference)

Hope this helped people here; I know those fees

add
up!
That's
why
I
do generic listings and ask people not to pay Pay

Pal.
By
the
way,
for sellers, Bid Pay is free. It's the
opposite...buyers
pay
a
money
order fee and it's sent to the seller (but takes a
couple
days).
Cheapest way to go is money order but

international
ones
can
be
expensive. And you have to be sure you do it in

the
money
of
whatever
country is accepting it.

Anyway, the exchange rate here is absurd when

dealing
with
the
UK
and
I think that's the major part where the problem

is.
I
don't
think
you
were being absurd too much, it is more of the

whole
price
in
the
end
for a bunch of common people, people who did at

least
once
sign
free
or who didn't even have more than 2 seconds in the
movie
with
no
lines!

If you were talking about someone GOOD, then maybe

it'd
not
have
seemed so bad!



By adding your 5 pounds in for yourself, you're not
going
to
lose
money. If it costs a few pence more for shipping or
toploader,
you
are
still making a nice little profit per item.


On Sat, 7 Aug 2004 09:26:09 +0100, "fon"

wrote:

I am very sorry to all offended by my post. I

have
removed
the
listing
from
ebay and will not be listing one for a pre order
again.
I stated in a previous post that I wasn't in it

for
the
money
but
to
help
cover my costs of traveling to and from etc.

I did post at the end of my previous post asking

if
someone
could
give
me
todds website but no one replied. This is however

not
an
excuse.

BDRX did reply to my previous post and said be
prepared
to
lose
money
at
first. I'm not in a position where I can lose

money
so
thats
where
the
$60
came from. I did notice from the ebay listing I

made
one
extra
mistake
and I
added that postage was $5 but when in fact it was
included.
I
based
the
price on a £20 autograph. Ebay listing fee and

total
price
fee.
Paypal
fee.
Postage to where ever. Toploader. Plus and again

this
wasn't
clear
I
was
going to have the photo of the guest with your

photo
printed
off
at
a
local
shop not on my computer so you would have a great

COA.

I really am sorry that I offended people on here

and I
certainly
didn't
intend to do that. I've had 2 nasty e-mails in

the
last
few
hours
containing
words to the effect of 'money grabbing w****r'
'f*****g
nob'
and
would
hope
this stop. Also in the last hour someone e-mailed
asking
could
I
get
an
autograph for them but my ansewer is no as I

probably
won't
go
now.

If you feel that I have offended you that much

please
reply
to
this
post
and
I won't post on this newsgroup again. I've made a

few
friends
on
here
and
sorry if I've spoiled that.


Jason



"dahoov2" wrote in message

...
Sorry, but 80.00 for a common signature, a

person
who
was
an
extra
withno lines or who signs free, is ridiculous.
That's
just
my
opinion, but if you get that much; good luck!

60.00
is
crazy
too.
But hey, as others say here, I don't have to

buy.

You weren't really explanatory enough I guess;

you
sounded
like
you
didn't want to profit, wanted to help

collectors,
but
really
even
if
an autograph cost 20 pounds, that's no more

than
35-38
dollars.
With
Top loader and mail and extra fee, you are

making
still
more
profit
than most of the dealers!

How are autographs sold by dealers anyway? If

one
gets
them
free
but
the value is 20 say in the guides, do people

list
like
that
or
what
they wish they can get? I think most list like

that
or
lower
and
let
the publuc decide. For you though, you'll have

to
pay
for
the
autographs so they must start at least at that

price
plus
shipping
(and no one can demand you send in a toploader;
would
be
hice,
but
I've shipped and had shipped to me in plastic
sleeves
with
cardboard
backing-it's cheaper) On your auction, they'll
decide
too.
Would
be
curious if anyone goes for it.

I guess you should have said you will do it to

make
money.
Not
to
help collectors. Be forthright. At least if

you
are,
at
least
people
won't accuse you of lying or hiding something.

The
most
they
can
say
is like I did, that you are charging a little

bit
much....
For
me
at
leat, you seemed misleading. I thought you were
gonna
be
like
Todd
was
and just charge a couple extra bucks for the

time
and
effort.

I can't advise you on canceling your auction or
changing
your
prices
or anything; that's for you to decide. You
should'nt
let
people
here
persude you on that. However, you might read

some
of
the
Ebay
rules
so that you don't get into trouble. As you

have
seen
here,
some
people would seemingly turn you
in.......................
I'd
of
emailed you offlist to warn you as a couresy if

I'd
of
seen
it.
I
assumed from your posts, you were never evil
intended
about
anything.
So you have nothing to be sorry for; people

should
not
be
emailing
you
off list to harrass you either. Advice is one
thing;
grief
is
quite
another.

On Sat, 7 Aug 2004 04:08:41 +0100, "fon"

wrote:



This is where the idea come from and he

cahrges
$80
per
signing.

http://www.finalfrontiertoys.co.uk/


He sells loads via ebay

Jason



"fon" wrote in

message
...
I've been collecting at cons for a few years

and
TTM
a
few
months.
My
feedback is 179 because in the last 6 months

I've
sold
my
LOTR
trading
card
collection and my Video collection. If you

check
the
items
that
I've
sold
none are anything to do with autographs.

If I've caused upset then I'm sorry and will
remove
the
ebay
auction
when
I
get home from work. I didn't mean to cause

anyone
any
grief.
I've had a few nasty e-mails in the last few
hours
which
has
been
a
little
upsetting so I'm not going to bother. This

was
going
to
be
a
trial
price
to
see how it went. I didn't want to go to

Birminham
next
week
and
LOSE
money
but I can asure you the price would have

come
down
by
Collectamania
once I
had worked out shipped and top loader prices

etc.

Last off how do I cancel an item on ebay.

Jason

"dahoov2" wrote in message

.. .
Well, he seemed to be asking for help in

all
the
previoius
posts... I
see that he's sold... this is bothering me

now.
Think
I
might
have
been hoodwinked? Have been emailed

offlist
a
lot
to
help
and
get
advice, so wonder what's up now.

So Fon, how long HAVE you been collecting?

On 6 Aug 2004 19:40:08 -0500, Autograph
Collector
wrote:

dahoov2 wrote:

Both of you are not very nice. I doubt
anyone
will
pay
that
much
for
common names such as those. I thought

in
your
original
post
you
said you were not out to get money.

These
people
charge
15-20
pounds
at most per sig at this convention.

Even
with
shipping
and
a
small
fee, that's a lot of extra money. But

then
again,
I
guess
if
people
want to pay, who am I to say. I just

think
you
portrayed
yourself
different in earlier posts and I wonder

if I
can
trust
you
now!
Also, you appear to be selling one

item,
to
one
person.
I
don't
see
multiples offered or a limit...Ebay

isn't
gonna
like
that!

Autograph collector is right... that's
skirting
Ebay's
rules
and
you
can be kicked off...

However, the person that posted this is

a
newbie;
you
didn't
have
to
go and report him. You could've

emailed
and
told
him
privately
first
before posting it publicly.... and let

him
know.

Newbie? They sell all the time on eBay

and
have
a
feedback
rating
of
179. They're no newbie.

AC



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