Are these items on ebay from this seller real?

well said mr black. neither compnay uses forensic experts (like the fbi
does) and none of them are trained in forensic analysis except for
james spence at psa dna...check out the webiste for autographs 101,
they have a nice article on mr spence. but as he even states, some
stuff can get by...so i am sure that no one is truly an expert...
Mr Black wrote:
Im trying to avoid the authentication debates on the board these
days; but
as a collector of sports graphs for 20 years, ofcourse i have heard
of
GAI.........BUT unless it is a signing that they themselves have held
and
are authenticating, i hold them in the same light as any other "3rd
party"
authenticator, regardless of reputation (see my earlier posts on psa
dna).......questionable at best.

MrB.

"Harold Smith" wrote in message
...
Frankly I'm surprised that veteran autograph collectors on an
autograph
newsgroup have never heard of Global (GAI). They're number two in
the
industry after PSA/DNA, and may even overtake PSA before long. The
company
was started three years ago by Stephen Rocci, who was the founder
and
president of PSA. Maybe he left for political reasons?


"ag" wrote in message
ups.com...
A seller on ebay with the username cp1525 has a lot of great
deals and
a high rating. He also has a reliable way of certifiying the
items with
most coming with a COA from GLOBAL AUTHENTICATION.

But how are these items so cheap? He has Pete Rose signed pics
for 20
bucks... litho's for 200. Thoughts?

this link should work:
http://search.ebay.com/_W0QQfgtpZ1QQ...5QQsassZcp1525
if not, type is his username: cp1525

Actually, that brings up a good point about being an expert. It was written
in an interview with Bob Hope once that his assistant had become so
proficient in doing his signature that he couldn't tell his from the fake.
:-)

--

Mike
Gummby3

~~ Star Collector ~~
www.star-collector.net
Celebrity addresses the way they should be - free.


"barefoot" wrote in message
ups.com...
well said mr black. neither compnay uses forensic experts (like the fbi
does) and none of them are trained in forensic analysis except for
james spence at psa dna...check out the webiste for autographs 101,
they have a nice article on mr spence. but as he even states, some
stuff can get by...so i am sure that no one is truly an expert...



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I have to admit that the use of vulgarities greatly improved the content of
your message.

--

Mike
Gummby3

~~ Star Collector ~~
www.star-collector.net
Celebrity addresses the way they should be - free.


"Harold Smith" wrote in message
...
"PSA DNA IS ENDORSED BY MLB BASEBALL

Are you a teenager or something. Where the **** did you go to
school?.....sheesh....LOL
Do you have a link where MLB formally endorses PSA/DNA? MLB employs the
Arthur Andersen accounting firm to authenticate all of its formal signing
sessions. Also, I would wager that GAI is doing more business and
authenticating more items than PSA/DNA at this point in time. Especially
since they even authenticate unopened wax packs and other items that PSA
doesn't.



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this is very true....
Anyone ever get the bob hope golf photo signed via mail?
it is VERY likely this was signed by his assistant; now compare it to an
in-person Hope graph.
its pretty bloody good.

MrB

"Gummby3" wrote in message
...
Actually, that brings up a good point about being an expert. It was
written
in an interview with Bob Hope once that his assistant had become so
proficient in doing his signature that he couldn't tell his from the fake.
:-)

--

Mike
Gummby3

~~ Star Collector ~~
www.star-collector.net
Celebrity addresses the way they should be - free.


"barefoot" wrote in message
ups.com...
well said mr black. neither compnay uses forensic experts (like the fbi
does) and none of them are trained in forensic analysis except for
james spence at psa dna...check out the webiste for autographs 101,
they have a nice article on mr spence. but as he even states, some
stuff can get by...so i am sure that no one is truly an expert...



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Frankly I'm suprised that someone who has obviously been lurking our NG
would make themselves known with such a condescending post towards the
members

MrB


Frankly I'm surprised that veteran autograph collectors on an autograph
newsgroup have never heard of Global (GAI). They're number two in the
industry after PSA/DNA, and may even overtake PSA before long. The
company
was started three years ago by Stephen Rocci, who was the founder and
president of PSA. Maybe he left for political reasons?


"ag" wrote in message
ups.com...
A seller on ebay with the username cp1525 has a lot of great deals and
a high rating. He also has a reliable way of certifiying the items with
most coming with a COA from GLOBAL AUTHENTICATION.

But how are these items so cheap? He has Pete Rose signed pics for 20
bucks... litho's for 200. Thoughts?

this link should work:
http://search.ebay.com/_W0QQfgtpZ1QQ...5QQsassZcp1525
if not, type is his username: cp1525

Isn't there some sort of moderation on here for foul language?
Truthfully, your posts will be respected and listened to more without
the cursing. You're use of the word also denotes such empaticness
that I wonder if you are part of the company in question?

The stuff you mention doesn't have to with authenticating after the
fact in question. That is NOT what MLB is endorsing; as you said it's
just the signings and probably authenticating/signing COA's at said
signings. I sincerely doubt MLB or NFL would endorse a company where
they authenticate people's items independently. If that were the
case, they'd lose credibility themselves and risk liability? Maybe
not, but they open themselve up for stuff they don't need for such a
penny-anny buisness;. possible lawsuits and other problems aren't
worth it. I'm just guessing here, but it's my guess they are only
using them for that ONE service.... so before people get all bent out
of shape and start going off one way or another, why not contact MLB
and find out the true scoop? See if they are standing by
PSA...because if they are, all those here who had stuff authenticated
that was crap can try to complain to MLB about it!



On Fri, 25 Mar 2005 21:36:45 -0800, "Harold Smith"
wrote:

"PSA DNA IS ENDORSED BY MLB BASEBALL

Are you a teenager or something. Where the **** did you go to
school?.....sheesh....LOL
Do you have a link where MLB formally endorses PSA/DNA? MLB employs the
Arthur Andersen accounting firm to authenticate all of its formal signing
sessions. Also, I would wager that GAI is doing more business and
authenticating more items than PSA/DNA at this point in time. Especially
since they even authenticate unopened wax packs and other items that PSA
doesn't.

"barefoot" wrote in message
roups.com...
dude, harold "smith" what are you talking about...GAI is nowhere near
the authentication service of psa dna- and will NEVER overtake
them...here's the main reason "PSA DNA IS ENDORSED BY MLB BASEBALL AND
NFL FOOTBALL." so much so that they both use PSA DNA certifications
when you buy a signature through them..there's only 4 major sports and
2 of them endorse PSA DNA and one of the major sports doesn't even
exist...
oh yeah, and one of the main authenticators for GAI sells autographs on
his own but now uses GAI certificates...that's some kind of conflict of
interest, what's to stop the guy from selling bad stuff and just
slapping a cert. on it. no offense, but this is about the DUMBEST
comment i've seen on here reguarding a professional business...MOST
people have NEVER heard of GAI. Just you and a handful of others...
in reguards to the autographs asked about on this page... Most seem
legit. i worry about the clemens- but most of these people that are on
this guy's page are people that do shows and do private signings with
the show promoters for FAR CHEAPER than the advertised show autographed
price...sp i would say there's almost no problem dealing with this
guy...My biggest suspect is GAI authentication service...Their about as
big as "MIKE"S BAR AND GRILL AUTHENTICATION SERVICE" and in no way
serves as proof of a signatures authenticity..
Harold Smith wrote:
Frankly I'm surprised that veteran autograph collectors on an
autograph
newsgroup have never heard of Global (GAI). They're number two in
the
industry after PSA/DNA, and may even overtake PSA before long. The
company
was started three years ago by Stephen Rocci, who was the founder and
president of PSA. Maybe he left for political reasons?


"ag" wrote in message
ups.com...
A seller on ebay with the username cp1525 has a lot of great deals
and
a high rating. He also has a reliable way of certifiying the items
with
most coming with a COA from GLOBAL AUTHENTICATION.

But how are these items so cheap? He has Pete Rose signed pics for
20
bucks... litho's for 200. Thoughts?

this link should work:
http://search.ebay.com/_W0QQfgtpZ1QQ...5QQsassZcp1525
if not, type is his username: cp1525

"PSA DNA IS ENDORSED BY MLB BASEBALL

Are you a teenager or something. Where the **** did you go to
school?.....sheesh....LOL
Do you have a link where MLB formally endorses PSA/DNA? MLB employs the
Arthur Andersen accounting firm to authenticate all of its formal signing
sessions. Also, I would wager that GAI is doing more business and
authenticating more items than PSA/DNA at this point in time. Especially
since they even authenticate unopened wax packs and other items that PSA
doesn't.

"barefoot" wrote in message
oups.com...
dude, harold "smith" what are you talking about...GAI is nowhere near
the authentication service of psa dna- and will NEVER overtake
them...here's the main reason "PSA DNA IS ENDORSED BY MLB BASEBALL AND
NFL FOOTBALL." so much so that they both use PSA DNA certifications
when you buy a signature through them..there's only 4 major sports and
2 of them endorse PSA DNA and one of the major sports doesn't even
exist...
oh yeah, and one of the main authenticators for GAI sells autographs on
his own but now uses GAI certificates...that's some kind of conflict of
interest, what's to stop the guy from selling bad stuff and just
slapping a cert. on it. no offense, but this is about the DUMBEST
comment i've seen on here reguarding a professional business...MOST
people have NEVER heard of GAI. Just you and a handful of others...
in reguards to the autographs asked about on this page... Most seem
legit. i worry about the clemens- but most of these people that are on
this guy's page are people that do shows and do private signings with
the show promoters for FAR CHEAPER than the advertised show autographed
price...sp i would say there's almost no problem dealing with this
guy...My biggest suspect is GAI authentication service...Their about as
big as "MIKE"S BAR AND GRILL AUTHENTICATION SERVICE" and in no way
serves as proof of a signatures authenticity..
Harold Smith wrote:
Frankly I'm surprised that veteran autograph collectors on an
autograph
newsgroup have never heard of Global (GAI). They're number two in
the
industry after PSA/DNA, and may even overtake PSA before long. The
company
was started three years ago by Stephen Rocci, who was the founder and
president of PSA. Maybe he left for political reasons?


"ag" wrote in message
ups.com...
A seller on ebay with the username cp1525 has a lot of great deals
and
a high rating. He also has a reliable way of certifiying the items
with
most coming with a COA from GLOBAL AUTHENTICATION.

But how are these items so cheap? He has Pete Rose signed pics for
20
bucks... litho's for 200. Thoughts?

this link should work:
http://search.ebay.com/_W0QQfgtpZ1QQ...5QQsassZcp1525
if not, type is his username: cp1525

none of them are trained in forensic analysis except for james spence at
psa dna

Yeah, he took a mail order course on it. Didn't he accidentally
authenticate a Christy Mathewson ball that ended up being a fake? It was in
one of the old Mastro auctions with a minimum bid of $26,000

"barefoot" wrote in message
ups.com...
well said mr black. neither compnay uses forensic experts (like the fbi
does) and none of them are trained in forensic analysis except for
james spence at psa dna...check out the webiste for autographs 101,
they have a nice article on mr spence. but as he even states, some
stuff can get by...so i am sure that no one is truly an expert...
Mr Black wrote:
Im trying to avoid the authentication debates on the board these
days; but
as a collector of sports graphs for 20 years, ofcourse i have heard
of
GAI.........BUT unless it is a signing that they themselves have held
and
are authenticating, i hold them in the same light as any other "3rd
party"
authenticator, regardless of reputation (see my earlier posts on psa
dna).......questionable at best.

MrB.

"Harold Smith" wrote in message
...
Frankly I'm surprised that veteran autograph collectors on an
autograph
newsgroup have never heard of Global (GAI). They're number two in
the
industry after PSA/DNA, and may even overtake PSA before long. The
company
was started three years ago by Stephen Rocci, who was the founder
and
president of PSA. Maybe he left for political reasons?


"ag" wrote in message
ups.com...
A seller on ebay with the username cp1525 has a lot of great
deals and
a high rating. He also has a reliable way of certifiying the
items with
most coming with a COA from GLOBAL AUTHENTICATION.

But how are these items so cheap? He has Pete Rose signed pics
for 20
bucks... litho's for 200. Thoughts?

this link should work:
http://search.ebay.com/_W0QQfgtpZ1QQ...5QQsassZcp1525
if not, type is his username: cp1525

actually, psa is now using Deloitte & Touche whom i have no idea who
they are...but they state it in several of their autograph and game
used items..so they are not using arthur anderson like you are
claiming...and if you look on NFL.com's website and look up autograph
auctions that they are CONSTANTLY holding...EVERYTHING is documented by
psa/dna...here's an example
being held by BEARS AUCTIONS- which is one of many charity links that
are supported by NFL.com-
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...tem=5178511651
and in fact, they are not using anyone else as far as all the other
auctions i have looked up...and last year when i was doign the same
thing through major league baseball, all their autograph items were
being authenticated by psa dna...so apparently, you are just
stupid...cause you have NONE of your fact straight...hello- it's PSA-
they are grading cards too dingleberry...in fact THEY ARE THE END ALL
BE ALL OF CARD GRADING...there is no substitute, there are MANY
copycats, but none of them are anywhere near the scale of
PSA...apparently you work for or know someone who works at GAI and you
are welcome to your opinion, but please, back it up with SOME facts.
GAI is rubbish copycat hacks who brings in crappy autograph collectors
and lets them tell you whether YOUR autographs look like theirs, and
they call it authenticating...goods luck getting anyone to belive
it...i think i could get some friends together and call it MOM AND
POP'S AUTHENTICATIONS and i'd be doing better business than GAI.
Harold Smith wrote:
"PSA DNA IS ENDORSED BY MLB BASEBALL

Are you a teenager or something. Where the **** did you go to
school?.....sheesh....LOL
Do you have a link where MLB formally endorses PSA/DNA? MLB employs
the
Arthur Andersen accounting firm to authenticate all of its formal
signing
sessions. Also, I would wager that GAI is doing more business and
authenticating more items than PSA/DNA at this point in time.
Especially
since they even authenticate unopened wax packs and other items that
PSA
doesn't.

"barefoot" wrote in message
oups.com...
dude, harold "smith" what are you talking about...GAI is nowhere
near
the authentication service of psa dna- and will NEVER overtake
them...here's the main reason "PSA DNA IS ENDORSED BY MLB BASEBALL
AND
NFL FOOTBALL." so much so that they both use PSA DNA certifications
when you buy a signature through them..there's only 4 major sports
and
2 of them endorse PSA DNA and one of the major sports doesn't even
exist...
oh yeah, and one of the main authenticators for GAI sells
autographs on
his own but now uses GAI certificates...that's some kind of
conflict of
interest, what's to stop the guy from selling bad stuff and just
slapping a cert. on it. no offense, but this is about the DUMBEST
comment i've seen on here reguarding a professional business...MOST
people have NEVER heard of GAI. Just you and a handful of others...
in reguards to the autographs asked about on this page... Most seem
legit. i worry about the clemens- but most of these people that are
on
this guy's page are people that do shows and do private signings
with
the show promoters for FAR CHEAPER than the advertised show
autographed
price...sp i would say there's almost no problem dealing with this
guy...My biggest suspect is GAI authentication service...Their
about as
big as "MIKE"S BAR AND GRILL AUTHENTICATION SERVICE" and in no way
serves as proof of a signatures authenticity..
Harold Smith wrote:
Frankly I'm surprised that veteran autograph collectors on an
autograph
newsgroup have never heard of Global (GAI). They're number two
in
the
industry after PSA/DNA, and may even overtake PSA before long.
The
company
was started three years ago by Stephen Rocci, who was the founder
and
president of PSA. Maybe he left for political reasons?


"ag" wrote in message
ups.com...
A seller on ebay with the username cp1525 has a lot of great
deals
and
a high rating. He also has a reliable way of certifiying the
items
with
most coming with a COA from GLOBAL AUTHENTICATION.

But how are these items so cheap? He has Pete Rose signed pics
for
20
bucks... litho's for 200. Thoughts?

this link should work:
http://search.ebay.com/_W0QQfgtpZ1QQ...5QQsassZcp1525
if not, type is his username: cp1525

in fact...here's a link to ALL nfl auction items...not the ones for
specific teams...but for NFL's auctions...
http://search.ebay.com/_W0QQfgtpZ1QQ...nflQ2dauctions
so there's my proof...please tell me how I'M the stupid
teenager...MORON.