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Old November 28th 07, 06:19 PM posted to rec.collecting.coins
Jud
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Default NORFED/Liberty Dollar Update

Got this in today's email. You may be interested.

Tuesday, November 27, 2007

Dear Liberty Dollar Supporters,

Usually at this time of the month, it is the deadline for the Liberty
Dollar News, our monthly newsletter that has chronicled the Liberty
Dollar for over nine years.

Of course all that came to a screeching halt when the g-boys raided
the Liberty Dollar just two weeks ago on Wednesday, November 14. 2007.

So now I am running from the government, afraid for my life and trying
to figure out what the hell to do next! Right? Wrong! Nothing could be
further from reality. Please read these quick bulleted (no pun) items
for a quick review of the latest developments:

IMPORTANT: If you have not received your order and you paid for it
with a bank card, please call your bank immediately, cancel the
transaction, reversing the transaction and GET YOUR MONEY BACK. Don't
let the government steal your money!

1. First I am not running "from" the g-boys. It is just the opposite.
I am running "to" the government. I see the current situation as an
ideal opportunity to validate the Liberty Dollar. Otherwise they will
have to prove beyond a shadow of a doubt that I am guilty and the
Liberty Dollar is the scourge of the country. Luckily, my favorite FBI
Agent "Andy" just called me yesterday... on my private cell phone.
Well the cell phone is suppose to be "private" as most people don't
know the phone number. So I complimented Andy on his resourcefulness
and he responded that he was the "FBI". Now that impressed me and gave
me a good secure feeling... because if the FBI could not find my cell
phone number, we would really be hurting. In any case, Andy and I had
a very "friendly" discussion for about 10-15 minutes. Seems that he
wants to "talk" to me. I took that to mean that he wants to arrest me.
So I asked about that and sure enough... a Grand Jury, indictment and
arrest seems to be a given at this time.

Later in our discussions, when Andy was forth coming with other info,
I complimented him on his "friendliness". To that Andy told me that he
(that's the gov) would be as "friendly" as I was. Well, what is a poor
boy to do, especially one in hot water with the feds... but be
friendly. So trust me, I intend to be very "friendly". Seriously, I
told my favorite FBI Agent Andy (who I am sure is reading this and can
reply if he is so moved...) that I took the government's raid "very
seriously." To which Andy replied, "And well you should... because the
government takes it very seriously too."

So there you have it, my second call with my very Special Agent Andy.
For the record, I spoke briefly to Andy shortly after he and his gang
invaded the peaceful Liberty Dollar offices and raided it of
everything. And as required, we received an inventory of the all
confiscated material. Unfortunately, it was not as detailed as really
required... simply stating 500 pounds of silver, without regard to
year, weight, denomination or design was way too sloppy for this
detailed pone arrestee-in-waiting.

Again, I am running "to" the government to absolve the Liberty Dollar
as a legal, private, voluntary, barter currency as soon as possible. I
want to get your property back ASAP. Please note this complete post
for more important info on how you can help us get your property back.

2. Our first mission is to get your confiscated property back. Please
don't call it stolen... yet. It will only be "stolen" if we lose this
case. And God help us all if the Liberty Dollar is found guilty. So
please take two actions: First sign up for the Class Action Lawsuit
and encourage other people to do so. We need thousands and thousands
of people demanding the return of their "stolen property". Second, we
are launching a Legal Defense Fund to defend your right to use Gold
and Silver any way you chose. It would be a very dangerous first step
if the government started limiting the way you can use your own gold
and silver. Please don't let this happen! Please donate $10 or more to
this very serious movement.

Currently we cannot accept donation via a bank card... but we can
accept checks, money orders and cash. It is OK to mail your donation
to the same old address: Liberty Dollar. 225 N. Stockwell Road.
Evansville. Indiana. 47715. Every single dollar, FRN or Liberty Dollar
is greatly appreciated.

Stay tune for more exciting ways to donate as we ramp to drive this
out of control government back to reality. We can do it... and we need
your help.

3. Now lets get serious. Did you read the 35 page Affidavit filed by
Agent Andy to show 'probable cause' for the issuance of the Search
Warrant? If not please go to: http://www.libertydollar.org/legal/p...yaffidavit.pdf
and read it! Read it very thoroughly. And while you do... ask
yourself, "Where's the crime?" Where is the crime?!!! Usually in such
an Affidavit there is all sorts of names, dates, offences, and other
info. None of that is in this Affidavit! It seems that I am guilty of
selling a t-shirt to Karen, our favorite kinda-undercover agent who
was well known from the get-go. Where is the crime? And the idea we
were "laundering money" is almost a joke... if it was not such a
serious matter. Trust me, this is a serious matter and is being taken
most seriously.

4. Equally serious, is your fear that some good natured, smiling,
Agent Andy is going to raid your home and confiscate your Liberty
Dollars. I know paranoia is rabid. And many of you have good cause to
be alarmed. The government's assault on our liberties and property has
been way over the top. And many of us have lost property in the past.
But this should only toughen our resolve for this case. But please
don't fear a raid on your place or home. There is no way the
government has the resources to mount such an attack with $20 million
Liberty Dollars in hundreds of thousand of hands all over our great
country. Take precautions, diversify your holdings is prudent for
everyone.

While it is not the time to relax and be happy, paranoia is no friend.
Good communication is our best companion. So if you hear of some
related action, please report it to me directly and stay focused so we
can get all our property back.

5. Towards resolving this testy matter, we are interviewing federal
criminal attorneys and hope to secure good, dedicated, successful
counsel asap. As I mentioned to Agent Andy, I wouldn't want to meet
him without counsel.

6. I was encouraged when Agent Andy told me that he would call me when
he knew the schedule so I could "turn myself in". I thought that was
real "friendly" and thanked Andy, as I am obviously not hiding out and
prefer that this matter be handled in a gentlemanly way. I just hope
the arrest does not interfere with my other commitments. I will be in
Evansville on Thursday, attorneys in DC, family for the holidays and
please join me for a rare performance as the keynote speaker at the
Liberty Forum in Nashua NH on Friday, January 4. Please consider
coming to the Liberty Forum... just mention Liberty Dollar and get 10%
off. Trust me this is going to be wild... just a couple of days before
the big Presidential Primary!!! Come to New Hampshire. Even Agent Andy
is welcome. But lets find a convenient time for the arrest...OK?

7. Surprise!!! Speaking of commitments. I will be in Evansville this
Thursday, November 29! Open to all. Pot Luck at 6:00. Meeting at 7:00
and out for a beer at 9:00. Everyone is welcome. Please join me at the
Liberty Dollar office: 225 N. Stockwell Road Evansville Indiana.
47715. Plenty of free parking. Just off the Lloyd Expressway. Just ask
Agent Andy he found us. But I don't' think he will be there on
Thursday.... but then again... maybe Andy can come out and play... and
he might be thereJ

8. Plus... if you did not catch my interview with Glenn Beck on CNN or
with Larry Kudlow on CNBC... please visit http://www.libertydollar.org/ld/legal/raid.htm.
Who would have thought that the raid would generate national news...
let alone two shows on the same night and at the same time! The little
Liberty Dollar just amazes me.

9. While doing the two national shows was good fun, it was not all the
coverage. In fact, there are dozens of newspaper articles. The most
amazing coverage came from a most amazing source, The Washington Post.
Not only did the Post cover the raid, it was featured on the Front
Page, plus it included a image of the Ron Paul Dollar! And if all that
was not enough, the article was quite large and REALLY GOOD. It all
started when Jan Salsbery, one of many fiery RCOs in California,
referred Alec MacGillis, a reporter with the Washington Post to call
me. As usual, Alex sounded like a very bright, very young reporter.
And as I explained with a certain amount of contempt, you might write
a good (truthful) article, but it will be sausage when the editors get
done. But very late Friday night Alec called me and said the "editors"
liked the story and was going to give it "some space." Well who would
have thought ... Front Page for the Liberty Dollar and Ron Paul?! Now
who could image that he will be our next President... I for one! And
hope you agree! Our country really needs Ron Paul. As the silver Ron
Paul Dollar states: VOTE FOR TRUTH.

PS: To Alec's credit, he followed up with a call on Monday, and
subsequently wrote an additional outstanding article:
http://www.libertydollar.org/news-st...1195598713.pdf

10. The local television and newspaper also provided very good
coverage. It is amazing how many people are interested in the Raid on
the little Liberty Dollar and the confiscation of two tons of Ron Paul
Dollars. Of course your support is critical to our success. BIG Thanks
for all you have done!

11. And finally have you seen the prices of the Ron Paul Gold, Silver
and Coppers Dollars. One day the copper is a buck and the next day $65
or more on eBay! Silver is in the $250 to $450 range! Just crazy! And
that is not even for the special numbered or hallmarked editions. Are
you hip to the Hallmarked Ron Paul Silver Dollars? The Hallmark
features a micro scroll with BOR denoting Ron's respect for the Bill
of Rights.

Quite simply, there is a lot to be thankful for. When we started the
Liberty Dollar we did not get an instruction manual. We did not know
how the Liberty Dollar was going to save the country from a monetary
crisis. But we vowed not to let our great country falter without
trying. We all, even Agent Andy, have a civic duty to our country. We
are commanded by the Declaration of Independence: We hold these truths
to be self-evident... That to secure these rights, Governments are
instituted among Men, deriving their just powers from the consent of
the governed, --That whenever any Form of Government becomes
destructive of these ends, it is the Right of the People to alter or
to abolish it, and to institute new Government, laying its foundation
on such principles and organizing its powers in such form, as to them
shall seem most likely to effect their Safety and Happiness. We shall
not let this country fail to live up to the ideals upon which it was
founded by our Founding Fathers. Let us each vow that our country will
not falter on my watch!

Now as I face eminent threat of arrest and possibly many years in
prison, you have my sincere thanks for supporting the Liberty Dollar
that exemplifies those very ideals. Our Founding Fathers fought and
died for them, we shall do nothing less.

Remember it is only by banding together and adopting a free and
independent currency that provides us with "just weights and measures"
will we be able to throw off the yoke of a manipulated monetary/tax
system and generate a peaceful and prosperous society.

Change the money / Change the country / Change the world. Do it now!
Bernard von NotHaus
Monetary Architect/Editor
November 27, 2007

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Old November 28th 07, 09:53 PM posted to rec.collecting.coins
Bill Dukenfield
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Default NORFED/Liberty Dollar Update

Jud wrote:

Got this in today's email. You may be interested.

Tuesday, November 27, 2007

Dear Liberty Dollar Supporters,

Usually at this time of the month, it is the deadline for the Liberty
Dollar News, our monthly newsletter that has chronicled the Liberty
Dollar for over nine years.

Of course all that came to a screeching halt when the g-boys raided
the Liberty Dollar just two weeks ago on Wednesday, November 14. 2007.

So now I am running from the government, afraid for my life and trying
to figure out what the hell to do next!


The best thing for you to do is leave this country and never come back.

Good by and good luck.

JAM
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Old November 28th 07, 09:55 PM posted to rec.collecting.coins
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Default NORFED/Liberty Dollar Update

In article , Bill Dukenfield wrote:
Jud wrote:

Got this in today's email. You may be interested.

Tuesday, November 27, 2007

Dear Liberty Dollar Supporters,

Usually at this time of the month, it is the deadline for the Liberty
Dollar News, our monthly newsletter that has chronicled the Liberty
Dollar for over nine years.

Of course all that came to a screeching halt when the g-boys raided
the Liberty Dollar just two weeks ago on Wednesday, November 14. 2007.

So now I am running from the government, afraid for my life and trying
to figure out what the hell to do next!


The best thing for you to do is leave this country and never come back.

Good by and good luck.

JAM


after assigning to me all property rights and bank account access. you may
keep all debits and outstanding debts.
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Old November 28th 07, 11:56 PM posted to rec.collecting.coins
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Default NORFED/Liberty Dollar Update

On Nov 28, 2:55 pm, wrote:
In article , Bill Dukenfield wrote:
Jud wrote:


Got this in today's email. You may be interested.


Tuesday, November 27, 2007


Dear Liberty Dollar Supporters,


Usually at this time of the month, it is the deadline for the Liberty
Dollar News, our monthly newsletter that has chronicled the Liberty
Dollar for over nine years.


Of course all that came to a screeching halt when the g-boys raided
the Liberty Dollar just two weeks ago on Wednesday, November 14. 2007.


So now I am running from the government, afraid for my life and trying
to figure out what the hell to do next!


The best thing for you to do is leave this country and never come back.


Good by and good luck.


JAM


after assigning to me all property rights and bank account access. you may
keep all debits and outstanding debts.- Hide quoted text -

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Counterfeiters get to learn what they mean when the call it "the
pokey". If they've got you on money laundering too, well the best you
can hope for is that you'll be allowed to serve the terms
concurrently. Bye bye VonNotgeld!!!!!

oly
 




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