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Ink Question
From a newbie - I moved up from a few cheap fountain pens to a
Waterman Phileas with a medium nib, which is terrific. I used one cartridge, and then used the converter. I filled it with black Quink I bought from Staples and am very satisfied with the results. While I'm not looking to change inks, I was wondering if there are thoughts on other good black inks for this pen, i.e., is Waterman ink better and worth a separate purchase? How about other brands? Thanks |
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"eb" wrote in message om... From a newbie - I moved up from a few cheap fountain pens to a Waterman Phileas with a medium nib, which is terrific. I used one cartridge, and then used the converter. I filled it with black Quink I bought from Staples and am very satisfied with the results. While I'm not looking to change inks, I was wondering if there are thoughts on other good black inks for this pen, i.e., is Waterman ink better and worth a separate purchase? How about other brands? Thanks depends largely on what you want from your ink. I find WM ink rather washed out. Aurora Black is the most dense FP black ink I've seen other than Levenger Raven. I used only Raven for a while but it tended to clog my pens. Aurora Black is a great black ink. Excellent flow, dense, and smoooooth. Lamy black is more of a grey. at least the carts I had were - don't use it anymore so... |
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eb wrote:
From a newbie - I moved up from a few cheap fountain pens to a Waterman Phileas with a medium nib, which is terrific. I used one cartridge, and then used the converter. I filled it with black Quink I bought from Staples and am very satisfied with the results. While I'm not looking to change inks, I was wondering if there are thoughts on other good black inks for this pen, i.e., is Waterman ink better and worth a separate purchase? How about other brands? Thanks Hi eb: There are many good black inks out there but none "better" than Quink, and Quink is a *much* better value than most. Waterman also is a very good ink, but it's a little more expensive and certainly no better than Quink. Both are tried and true inks that have been around for many decades. Ya never hear complaints about their quality (e.g., gunking up pens, stuff precipitating out of them, creepy crawlers growing in them, etc.). KCat mentioned Aurora... Aurora is a very nice, high-quality black ink, but you'll pay more than twice the price of Quink for it. You're probably getting Quink for around $5.50 per 57ml bottle at Staples... something like that anyway. Aurora will cost you around $10 for a 45ml bottle. Doesn't hurt to experiment, but I don't think you'll find a better black at any price and given that it's so inexpensive, I could understand why you might want to make it your standard black. --- Bernadette |
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KCat wrote:
Aurora Black is the most dense FP black ink I've seen other than Levenger Raven. I used only Raven for a while but it tended to clog my pens. Aurora Black is a great black ink. Excellent flow, dense, and smoooooth. KCat read my mind in everything she just wrote! Stop it! LOL Yes Aurora is the best black. Levengers Raven is a great black, but seemed to clog up a bit unless you have a heavy flowing pen. I'm sticking with Aurora black.... till I see how Nathan's Noodlers flows. Nancy |
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"eb" wrote in message
om... From a newbie - I moved up from a few cheap fountain pens to a Waterman Phileas with a medium nib, which is terrific. I used one cartridge, and then used the converter. I filled it with black Quink I bought from Staples and am very satisfied with the results. While I'm not looking to change inks, I was wondering if there are thoughts on other good black inks for this pen, i.e., is Waterman ink better and worth a separate purchase? How about other brands? Thanks After Quink and Sheaffer's Skrip, "better" is subjective. It stuck in my mind when Frank posted that those two are the standards (Did he include Waterman? I forget.) and when a pen got sent in for repair, the repairman loaded it up with either black or blue Parker or Skrip (or Waterman?) and if it worked fine, it was returned w/o further service and the owner advised to simply change to another ink. Personally, I think Skrip is a little blacker but at $5.50 for a 50 ml bottle, it's also a few pennies more expensive. I've tried Private Reserve (a warm black w/ brownish tone) and Pelikan (jury's still out) but go back to Parker and Skrip. -- ~~Bluesea~~too cheap/chicken to try more expensive inks Spam is great in musubi but not in email. Please take out the trash before sending a direct reply. |
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Bluesea wrote:
After Quink and Sheaffer's Skrip, "better" is subjective. It stuck in my mind when Frank posted that those two are the standards We're talking about a few different ink questions he 1. Which ink looks best on paper and still flows well from a pen? 2. Which ink does the least damage to the pen? For a great deep black ink that flows well, IMO the answer to question #1 would be Aurora Black. However the answer to question #2 would be Frank's favorites, Quink and Skrip. Nancy |
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Nancy Handy wrote:
We're talking about a few different ink questions he 1. Which ink looks best on paper and still flows well from a pen? ... Hi Nancy, I've used both inks (Quink and Aurora) and lots of other different blacks, and I'd be hard pressed to tell the difference between text written in Quink Black and text written in Aurora Black assuming the pen isn't a terribly dry writer (in which case, both are going to look a bit washed out). Quink produces a nice dark black line, and it flows beautifully even in pens with stingy ink delivery systems, like 51s. 2. Which ink does the least damage to the pen? Aurora Black has never damaged a pen of mine. Have you heard of it damaging a pen? I don't think either of these inks is going to damage a pen, but the Quink will do considerably less damage to one's wallet than Aurora. But, the IP should try them and then decide if Aurora is worth more than twice the price. --- Bernadette |
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siDetRaked wrote:
How about Pelikan 4001 black ink? It's a nice dark black ink. It's relatively inexpensive. They had some problems with gunk in their inks (their green and black inks I believe) about a year or two ago, but they've probably resolved those issues by now. Even with the latest price increase, Pelikan inks are a good value... why not try their black and see how you like it? ---Bernadette |
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BLandolf wrote:
siDetRaked wrote: How about Pelikan 4001 black ink? It's a nice dark black ink. It's relatively inexpensive. They had some problems with gunk in their inks (their green and black inks I believe) about a year or two ago, but they've probably resolved those issues by now. Even with the latest price increase, Pelikan inks are a good value... why not try their black and see how you like it? ---Bernadette Or, perhaps, Cross Black, if it's cheaper where you are? Cross inks are made by Pelikan, though I don't know if the black is the same formulation. Michael |
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BLandolf wrote:
with snipping Hi Nancy, I've used both inks (Quink and Aurora) and lots of other different blacks, and I'd be hard pressed to tell the difference between text written in Quink Black and text written in Aurora Black assuming the pen isn't a terribly dry writer (in which case, both are going to look a bit washed out). Quink produces a nice dark black line, and it flows beautifully even in pens with stingy ink delivery systems, like 51s. I used Quink black exclusively for a couple of decades. It always seemed to have a grayish tinge to me, a tinge that was missing when I first tried Aurora black. This sent me down that slippery slope to where my ink shelf now holds a rainbow of ink, enough for a couple of generations. :0) Mark Z. |
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