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Old July 10th 03, 07:43 PM
paghat
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In article ,
(William M. Klimon) wrote:

A win for the good guys:

"Please be advised that the following auction:

3534218757 - HANS CHRISTIAN ANDERSEN*Signed 1st.1st + NR!

was ended early by eBay. The auction was ended due to the account
suspension of
the seller.
All results for this auction are null and void."


http://cgi2.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAP...d=artgallery10



William M. Klimon
http://www.gateofbliss.com


Watching this saga unfold in this thread was terribly interesting.
It's too bad it takes wary collectors rather than Ebay itself to stop such
overt criminal fraud.

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Old July 10th 03, 07:51 PM
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"MindElec" wrote in message
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On Thu, 10 Jul 2003 16:46:57 GMT, "Kris Baker"
declared:


YAY!

Now...onward and upward to the next "new" guy selling those
items


it'll have to be a new set, of new guys. his buddies are NARU too.

robert


I know....but this guy wasn't at all new to eBay, and will be
back.....(crap).

Kris


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Old July 10th 03, 11:20 PM
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On Thu, 10 Jul 2003 18:51:16 GMT, "Kris Baker"
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"paghat" wrote in message
news

Watching this saga unfold in this thread was terribly interesting.
It's too bad it takes wary collectors rather than Ebay itself to stop such
overt criminal fraud.

-paghat the ratgirl


Outside of spotting the shilling (and there are lots of new bidders
for 99-cent items), who at eBay would know as much as the
collectors here?

In a perfect world, eBay would "know" immediately about things
like this.....but eBay works the same way as the real world:
self-policing.

Who reports most crimes? The police, or the general public?


agreed, but part of the problem in reporting something like this
(outside of the shilling) is that ebay doesn't know anything about
books. in fact even the "managers" of the book section don't
neccessarily know anything about books and probably wouldn't get
consulted anyway on something like this.




robert

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The must be one night for everyone. And if you know that the night
is coming on and that this night will be that particular night, then
take it and don't question it and don't talk about it to anyone ever
after that. For if you let it pass it might not come again. Many have
let it pass, many have seen it go by and have never seen another like it,
when all the circumstances of weather, light, moon and time, of night hill
and warm grass and train and town and distance were balanced upon the
trembling of a finger."
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Old July 11th 03, 02:46 PM
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"Tom" wrote in message ...
Here is my corespondance with this fraudster, still waiting for a response
from the last one.,,

Hi,

I know that the signature you are showing as hemingway's is from the front
of the book. Either end the auction now or the auction will be reported to
ebay as fraud.

People do not like to be taken for a fool....

Tommole

---cristian argesanu wrote:

hi,
it is signed on the second page .


--- Tom L-M wrote:

Could you perhaps send me a better picture, and
state which page hemingway
has signed?

Many thanks,

Tommole


----- Original Message -----
From: "cristian argesanu"

To: Tom L-M
Sent: Tuesday, July 08, 2003 5:28 PM
Subject: Question for seller -- Item #3534210861


The signature is in the book . We will send you

our
written certification that this is Ernest

Hemingway 's
authentic signature.


An excellent argument against the Certificates of Authenticity that
many sellers and buyers place so much store in.

David


David Holloway, Bookseller
 




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