What Do Willow Arune (William Orobko) and Michael Jackson Have in Common?

What garbage. Not true at all.

Now, apparently someone has brought up the Andrea James Survivors Group.

Yes indeed. That group was started for a purpose. At the time, Andrea
James had used her web site to attack many TS women and others. An
individual response to her was not appropriate. I therefore started this
group on Yahoo to gather up those who had been attacked by Andrea James to
exchange ideas and, as the title page stated, to seek redress. That may
have taken many legal forms.

I fail to see anything wrong in that. There are groups formed by the
survivors of various types of attack. James represented a new breed - one
who attacked you personally from behind the screen of an offshore web site.

While any individual would be hard pressed to counter those attacks, a group
might see some redress through legal means. The group was intended for
those attacked in a very negative manner by James on her web site - those
from universities, various groups, the Transkids, and certain individuals
who had been attacked directly.

This would also have removed such discussions from Muliebrity, a group that
then had about 200 members.

That came to a halt when a non-member, one who had never joined (and would
not have been allowed to join) Usher complained to Yahoo, evidently under a
misapprehension of what was intended by the new group. Yahoo terminate the
group - it seems Yahoo does not investigate this type of matter, for there
were many posts written to rethink this decision. At the time, the group
had perhaps five members and three posts - none of which were in any way
espousing illegal activities.

Time passes. Few go to James site any more - at least, not the younger TS
women. It is irrelevant to all save a group of diehards here and in a few
other locations. It is not practical to sue for libel as the border and
other logistics make that difficult, along with (1) the offshore status of
James' web pages, and (2) her bankruptcy in the 1990s. Simply put, the cost
of legal action is not worth the potential return.

Willow

P.S. Given the number of threads now posted with insults and
mis-information, I wonder if Sandra is still keeping silent. Naw. She
never wanted to make this place a good place for TS anyways...








"Anonymous via the Cypherpunks Tonga Remailer" wrote
in message ...
They both like young boys in their bedroom.
William Orobko is a convicted sex offender in Thailand who
escaped to Canada and is now hiding under the assumed name of
Willow Arune. He is pretending to be a woman (a 300 pound woman
at that!) to escape deportation back to Thailand.

He was last known to live in or near Prince George.

"Pangarune Corner" wrote in message
news:AOXQg.11928$1T2.11126@pd7urf2no...
What garbage. Not true at all.

Now, apparently someone has brought up the Andrea James Survivors Group.

Yes indeed. That group was started for a purpose. At the time, Andrea
James had used her web site to attack many TS women and others. An
individual response to her was not appropriate. I therefore started this
group on Yahoo to gather up those who had been attacked by Andrea James to
exchange ideas and, as the title page stated, to seek redress. That may
have taken many legal forms.

I fail to see anything wrong in that. There are groups formed by the
survivors of various types of attack. James represented a new breed - one
who attacked you personally from behind the screen of an offshore web
site.


You forgot to read the Yahoo Terms of Service.

The good news is Your true colors came out.

While any individual would be hard pressed to counter those attacks, a
group might see some redress through legal means. The group was intended
for those attacked in a very negative manner by James on her web site -
those from universities, various groups, the Transkids, and certain
individuals who had been attacked directly.

This would also have removed such discussions from Muliebrity, a group
that then had about 200 members.

Muliebreity never had 200 members the most it ever had was 40

That came to a halt when a non-member, one who had never joined (and would
not have been allowed to join) Usher complained to Yahoo, evidently under
a misapprehension of what was intended by the new group. Yahoo terminate
the group - it seems Yahoo does not investigate this type of matter, for
there were many posts written to rethink this decision. At the time, the
group had perhaps five members and three posts - none of which were in any
way espousing illegal activities.

They do
They saw the kind of Pervert you are.

Time passes. Few go to James site any more - at least, not the younger TS
women. It is irrelevant to all save a group of diehards here and in a few
other locations. It is not practical to sue for libel as the border and
other logistics make that difficult, along with (1) the offshore status of
James' web pages, and (2) her bankruptcy in the 1990s. Simply put, the
cost of legal action is not worth the potential return.

How do you know that????
You are only making stuff up.
*******.
Willow

P.S. Given the number of threads now posted with insults and
mis-information, I wonder if Sandra is still keeping silent. Naw. She
never wanted to make this place a good place for TS anyways...


Just like you.
"If they don't support them are my enemies."








"Anonymous via the Cypherpunks Tonga Remailer"
wrote in message ...
They both like young boys in their bedroom.
William Orobko is a convicted sex offender in Thailand who
escaped to Canada and is now hiding under the assumed name of
Willow Arune. He is pretending to be a woman (a 300 pound woman
at that!) to escape deportation back to Thailand.

He was last known to live in or near Prince George.



All of this is true.


Good Bye William Orobko

"Sue_A" wrote [**** as usual]

**** off and die, you gutlessly pseudonymous creep.

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No. Do they let you hang out with people when you are out???


"Michel" wrote in message
.. .
When you were in Thailand did you hang out with John Mark Karr?


"Pangarune Corner" wrote in message
news:AOXQg.11928$1T2.11126@pd7urf2no...
What garbage. Not true at all.

Now, apparently someone has brought up the Andrea James Survivors Group.

Yes indeed. That group was started for a purpose. At the time, Andrea
James had used her web site to attack many TS women and others. An
individual response to her was not appropriate. I therefore started this
group on Yahoo to gather up those who had been attacked by Andrea James
to
exchange ideas and, as the title page stated, to seek redress. That may
have taken many legal forms.

I fail to see anything wrong in that. There are groups formed by the
survivors of various types of attack. James represented a new breed -
one
who attacked you personally from behind the screen of an offshore web
site.

While any individual would be hard pressed to counter those attacks, a
group
might see some redress through legal means. The group was intended for
those attacked in a very negative manner by James on her web site - those
from universities, various groups, the Transkids, and certain individuals
who had been attacked directly.

This would also have removed such discussions from Muliebrity, a group
that
then had about 200 members.

That came to a halt when a non-member, one who had never joined (and
would
not have been allowed to join) Usher complained to Yahoo, evidently under
a
misapprehension of what was intended by the new group. Yahoo terminate
the
group - it seems Yahoo does not investigate this type of matter, for
there
were many posts written to rethink this decision. At the time, the
group
had perhaps five members and three posts - none of which were in any way
espousing illegal activities.

Time passes. Few go to James site any more - at least, not the younger
TS
women. It is irrelevant to all save a group of diehards here and in a
few
other locations. It is not practical to sue for libel as the border and
other logistics make that difficult, along with (1) the offshore status
of
James' web pages, and (2) her bankruptcy in the 1990s. Simply put, the
cost
of legal action is not worth the potential return.

Willow

P.S. Given the number of threads now posted with insults and
mis-information, I wonder if Sandra is still keeping silent. Naw. She
never wanted to make this place a good place for TS anyways...








"Anonymous via the Cypherpunks Tonga Remailer"
wrote
in message ...
They both like young boys in their bedroom.
William Orobko is a convicted sex offender in Thailand who
escaped to Canada and is now hiding under the assumed name of
Willow Arune. He is pretending to be a woman (a 300 pound woman
at that!) to escape deportation back to Thailand.

He was last known to live in or near Prince George.

Sorry - I did not realize these posts were also directed here.

W.


"Pangarune Corner" wrote in message
news:4h2Rg.11626$5R2.6433@pd7urf3no...
No. Do they let you hang out with people when you are out???


"Michel" wrote in message
.. .
When you were in Thailand did you hang out with John Mark Karr?


"Pangarune Corner" wrote in message
news:AOXQg.11928$1T2.11126@pd7urf2no...
What garbage. Not true at all.

Now, apparently someone has brought up the Andrea James Survivors Group.

Yes indeed. That group was started for a purpose. At the time, Andrea
James had used her web site to attack many TS women and others. An
individual response to her was not appropriate. I therefore started
this
group on Yahoo to gather up those who had been attacked by Andrea James
to
exchange ideas and, as the title page stated, to seek redress. That may
have taken many legal forms.

I fail to see anything wrong in that. There are groups formed by the
survivors of various types of attack. James represented a new breed -
one
who attacked you personally from behind the screen of an offshore web
site.

While any individual would be hard pressed to counter those attacks, a
group
might see some redress through legal means. The group was intended for
those attacked in a very negative manner by James on her web site -
those
from universities, various groups, the Transkids, and certain
individuals
who had been attacked directly.

This would also have removed such discussions from Muliebrity, a group
that
then had about 200 members.

That came to a halt when a non-member, one who had never joined (and
would
not have been allowed to join) Usher complained to Yahoo, evidently
under
a
misapprehension of what was intended by the new group. Yahoo terminate
the
group - it seems Yahoo does not investigate this type of matter, for
there
were many posts written to rethink this decision. At the time, the
group
had perhaps five members and three posts - none of which were in any way
espousing illegal activities.

Time passes. Few go to James site any more - at least, not the younger
TS
women. It is irrelevant to all save a group of diehards here and in a
few
other locations. It is not practical to sue for libel as the border and
other logistics make that difficult, along with (1) the offshore status
of
James' web pages, and (2) her bankruptcy in the 1990s. Simply put, the
cost
of legal action is not worth the potential return.

Willow

P.S. Given the number of threads now posted with insults and
mis-information, I wonder if Sandra is still keeping silent. Naw. She
never wanted to make this place a good place for TS anyways...








"Anonymous via the Cypherpunks Tonga Remailer"
wrote
in message ...
They both like young boys in their bedroom.
William Orobko is a convicted sex offender in Thailand who
escaped to Canada and is now hiding under the assumed name of
Willow Arune. He is pretending to be a woman (a 300 pound woman
at that!) to escape deportation back to Thailand.

He was last known to live in or near Prince George.

When you were in Thailand did you hang out with John Mark Karr?


"Pangarune Corner" wrote in message
news:AOXQg.11928$1T2.11126@pd7urf2no...
What garbage. Not true at all.

Now, apparently someone has brought up the Andrea James Survivors Group.

Yes indeed. That group was started for a purpose. At the time, Andrea
James had used her web site to attack many TS women and others. An
individual response to her was not appropriate. I therefore started this
group on Yahoo to gather up those who had been attacked by Andrea James to
exchange ideas and, as the title page stated, to seek redress. That may
have taken many legal forms.

I fail to see anything wrong in that. There are groups formed by the
survivors of various types of attack. James represented a new breed - one
who attacked you personally from behind the screen of an offshore web
site.

While any individual would be hard pressed to counter those attacks, a
group
might see some redress through legal means. The group was intended for
those attacked in a very negative manner by James on her web site - those
from universities, various groups, the Transkids, and certain individuals
who had been attacked directly.

This would also have removed such discussions from Muliebrity, a group
that
then had about 200 members.

That came to a halt when a non-member, one who had never joined (and would
not have been allowed to join) Usher complained to Yahoo, evidently under
a
misapprehension of what was intended by the new group. Yahoo terminate
the
group - it seems Yahoo does not investigate this type of matter, for there
were many posts written to rethink this decision. At the time, the group
had perhaps five members and three posts - none of which were in any way
espousing illegal activities.

Time passes. Few go to James site any more - at least, not the younger TS
women. It is irrelevant to all save a group of diehards here and in a few
other locations. It is not practical to sue for libel as the border and
other logistics make that difficult, along with (1) the offshore status of
James' web pages, and (2) her bankruptcy in the 1990s. Simply put, the
cost
of legal action is not worth the potential return.

Willow

P.S. Given the number of threads now posted with insults and
mis-information, I wonder if Sandra is still keeping silent. Naw. She
never wanted to make this place a good place for TS anyways...








"Anonymous via the Cypherpunks Tonga Remailer"
wrote
in message ...
They both like young boys in their bedroom.
William Orobko is a convicted sex offender in Thailand who
escaped to Canada and is now hiding under the assumed name of
Willow Arune. He is pretending to be a woman (a 300 pound woman
at that!) to escape deportation back to Thailand.

He was last known to live in or near Prince George.

"Pangarune Corner" wrote in message
news:AOXQg.11928$1T2.11126@pd7urf2no...
What garbage. Not true at all.

Now, apparently someone has brought up the Andrea James Survivors Group.

Once again,. he is caught in a lie. If he was not reading the posts from
TAOT, he would not know about this. Not even very slick.

That came to a halt when a non-member, one who had never joined (and would
not have been allowed to join) Usher complained to Yahoo, evidently under
a
misapprehension of what was intended by the new group. Yahoo terminate
the
group - it seems Yahoo does not investigate this type of matter, for there
were many posts written to rethink this decision. At the time, the group
had perhaps five members and three posts - none of which were in any way
espousing illegal activities.

Billy Boy bragged about the group here. I simply responded appropriately,
and informed Yahoo about a violation of their tems of service which
specifically forbid targetting individuals.

Time passes. Few go to James site any more - at least, not the younger TS
women. It is irrelevant to all save a group of diehards here and in a few
other locations. It is not practical to sue for libel as the border and
other logistics make that difficult, along with (1) the offshore status of
James' web pages, and (2) her bankruptcy in the 1990s. Simply put, the
cost
of legal action is not worth the potential return.

He simply makes this stuff up. He has no evidence that Andrea James
declared bankrupty (she did not), and as to the stuff about her web site
being offshore....well, a simple whois search shows that to also be a lie.
The simple reason he cannot sue for libel is, in a libel case, TRUTH is an
absolute defense. He would have to prove, by a preponderence of the
evidence, that what is said about him is not true. And simply put, he
cannot do that.

--
Jennifer Usher



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"Jennifer Usher" wrote in message
.. .

"Pangarune Corner" wrote in message
news:AOXQg.11928$1T2.11126@pd7urf2no...
What garbage. Not true at all.

Now, apparently someone has brought up the Andrea James Survivors Group.

Once again,. he is caught in a lie. If he was not reading the posts from
TAOT, he would not know about this. Not even very slick.

That came to a halt when a non-member, one who had never joined (and
would
not have been allowed to join) Usher complained to Yahoo, evidently under
a
misapprehension of what was intended by the new group. Yahoo terminate
the
group - it seems Yahoo does not investigate this type of matter, for
there
were many posts written to rethink this decision. At the time, the
group
had perhaps five members and three posts - none of which were in any way
espousing illegal activities.

Billy Boy bragged about the group here. I simply responded appropriately,
and informed Yahoo about a violation of their tems of service which
specifically forbid targetting individuals.

Time passes. Few go to James site any more - at least, not the younger
TS
women. It is irrelevant to all save a group of diehards here and in a
few
other locations. It is not practical to sue for libel as the border and
other logistics make that difficult, along with (1) the offshore status
of
James' web pages, and (2) her bankruptcy in the 1990s. Simply put, the
cost
of legal action is not worth the potential return.

He simply makes this stuff up. He has no evidence that Andrea James
declared bankrupty (she did not), and as to the stuff about her web site
being offshore....well, a simple whois search shows that to also be a lie.
The simple reason he cannot sue for libel is, in a libel case, TRUTH is an
absolute defense. He would have to prove, by a preponderence of the
evidence, that what is said about him is not true. And simply put, he
cannot do that.

--
Jennifer Usher

He is Net illiterate

Take Care
Hugs
Sue