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Resolving John Pelan
Two questions:
1. You claim to follow ABAA book description guidelines. Please can you advise whether you are in fact a member of the ABAA (or have ever been)? 2. After seeking to imply that you had multiple copies of THE SORCERER'S CHESSMEN, you side-stepped my suggestion that we compare my scans of the book I sold you with those of the book you sold on to a third party. Please could you therefore confirm - without ambiguity - whether or not the book you sold on Ebay was in fact the same copy I sold you? SS |
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Resolving John Pelan
On 6 Jun 2006 13:19:10 -0700, "Bad Mr. Toad"
selected a fat, juicy grub from his plate and stammered out the the following: Two questions: 1. You claim to follow ABAA book description guidelines. Please can you advise whether you are in fact a member of the ABAA (or have ever been)? I am a member of several organizations that you do not qualify to join. The specifics are none of your business. 2. After seeking to imply that you had multiple copies of THE SORCERER'S CHESSMEN, you side-stepped my suggestion that we compare my scans of the book I sold you with those of the book you sold on to a third party. Please could you therefore confirm - without ambiguity - whether or not the book you sold on Ebay was in fact the same copy I sold you? SS Do you suppose that I am at your beck and call to address impertinent questions from the likes of you? The answers to the above are really none of your business; instead you may focus on recent customer comments (all of which were items that were quite out of your price range): "Rare book, as described, well packed, and promptly shipped. A+++ as usual!" "Item arrived promptly & in fine condition, ALWAYS EXCELLENT SERVICE!! A+++++" "Prompt refund for returned item. Buy from this fine seller with confidence. A+++" "Good description, fine service, excellent packaging. Thank you!" Now let's contrast this with you having been chastised by ABE for fraud, kicked off of eBay, hauled into court for fraud, and chastised by a professional organization for the theft of intellectual property... Please take your off-topic trolling elsewhere, you are not welcome here; just as you are unwelcome in abg-f, ah-c, umtm, and numerous other discussion groups. Good day to you. John |
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Resolving John Pelan
John Pelan wrote:
Two questions: 1. You claim to follow ABAA book description guidelines. Please can you advise whether you are in fact a member of the ABAA (or have ever been)? I am a member of several organizations that you do not qualify to join. The specifics are none of your business. Oh, so what you mean is that you aren't a member? 2. After seeking to imply that you had multiple copies of THE SORCERER'S CHESSMEN, you side-stepped my suggestion that we compare my scans of the book I sold you with those of the book you sold on to a third party. Please could you therefore confirm - without ambiguity - whether or not the book you sold on Ebay was in fact the same copy I sold you? SS Do you suppose that I am at your beck and call to address impertinent questions from the likes of you? The answers to the above are really none of your business; instead you may focus on .....[several completely irrevelant pieces of subjective disinformation]. You mean "yes" then? So, to conclude: 1. You claim to adhere to professional "ABAA" guidelines although you are not nor have ever been a member. This is an arrogant claim which seeks to profit from association with whom you are not actually associated. Worst of all, you cannot be reprimanded for breaching ABAA rules, because you aren't actually a member of that august body. 2. Where a well-known UK Ebay dealer and I sold the same book as a ragged but good reader copy, you listed it on Ebay as a "very presentable copy". I think this is evidence enough of your duplicituous intent. Shelf Space DRAGON SLAYER "...three hours from sundown, Jeremy flies.... hoping to keep the sun from his eyes... east from the city and down to the caves.... in search of a master, in search of a slave." |
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Resolving John Pelan
On 6 Jun 2006 17:47:52 -0700, "Shelf Space"
wrote: John Pelan wrote: Two questions: 1. You claim to follow ABAA book description guidelines. Please can you advise whether you are in fact a member of the ABAA (or have ever been)? I am a member of several organizations that you do not qualify to join. The specifics are none of your business. Oh, so what you mean is that you aren't a member? That isn't what I said, you stupid ****. I said "the specifics are none of your business". 2. After seeking to imply that you had multiple copies of THE SORCERER'S CHESSMEN, you side-stepped my suggestion that we compare my scans of the book I sold you with those of the book you sold on to a third party. Please could you therefore confirm - without ambiguity - whether or not the book you sold on Ebay was in fact the same copy I sold you? SS Do you suppose that I am at your beck and call to address impertinent questions from the likes of you? The answers to the above are really none of your business; instead you may focus on .....[several completely irrevelant pieces of subjective disinformation]. Restored:The answers to the above are really none of your business; instead you may focus on recent customer comments (all of which were items that were quite out of your price range): "Rare book, as described, well packed, and promptly shipped. A+++ as usual!" "Item arrived promptly & in fine condition, ALWAYS EXCELLENT SERVICE!! A+++++" "Prompt refund for returned item. Buy from this fine seller with confidence. A+++" "Good description, fine service, excellent packaging. Thank you!" Now let's contrast this with you having been chastised by ABE for fraud, kicked off of eBay, hauled into court for fraud, and chastised by a professional organization for the theft of intellectual property... You mean "yes" then? So, to conclude: 1. You claim to adhere to professional "ABAA" guidelines although you are not nor have ever been a member. This is an arrogant claim which seeks to profit from association with whom you are not actually associated. Worst of all, you cannot be reprimanded for breaching ABAA rules, because you aren't actually a member of that august body. I said I follow their grading standards. My exemplary record as a bookseller should adequately confirm this. 2. Where a well-known UK Ebay dealer and I sold the same book as a ragged but good reader copy, you listed it on Ebay as a "very presentable copy". I think this is evidence enough of your duplicituous intent. Oddly enough, the copy I sold delighted the customer. I think this is adequate evidence that you are a stupid **** with nothing useful to do besides prowl in dumpsters and snap at the heels of your betters. Now run along and give Fatima a hand with the cabbages. I realize it must gall you to be a laughing stock in the book world, but you brought it on yourself. You may try keeping quiet to conceal your stupidity; unfortunately, there's not much to be done about your ugliness. Good day, J |
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Resolving John Pelan
John Pelan wrote: On 6 Jun 2006 17:47:52 -0700, "Shelf Space" wrote: John Pelan wrote: Two questions: 1. You claim to follow ABAA book description guidelines. Please can you advise whether you are in fact a member of the ABAA (or have ever been)? I am a member of several organizations that you do not qualify to join. The specifics are none of your business. Oh, so what you mean is that you aren't a member? That isn't what I said, you stupid ****. I said "the specifics are none of your business". 2. After seeking to imply that you had multiple copies of THE SORCERER'S CHESSMEN, you side-stepped my suggestion that we compare my scans of the book I sold you with those of the book you sold on to a third party. Please could you therefore confirm - without ambiguity - whether or not the book you sold on Ebay was in fact the same copy I sold you? SS Do you suppose that I am at your beck and call to address impertinent questions from the likes of you? The answers to the above are really none of your business; instead you may focus on .....[several completely irrevelant pieces of subjective disinformation]. Restored:The answers to the above are really none of your business; instead you may focus on recent customer comments (all of which were items that were quite out of your price range): "Rare book, as described, well packed, and promptly shipped. A+++ as usual!" "Item arrived promptly & in fine condition, ALWAYS EXCELLENT SERVICE!! A+++++" "Prompt refund for returned item. Buy from this fine seller with confidence. A+++" "Good description, fine service, excellent packaging. Thank you!" Now let's contrast this with you having been chastised by ABE for fraud, kicked off of eBay, hauled into court for fraud, and chastised by a professional organization for the theft of intellectual property... You mean "yes" then? So, to conclude: 1. You claim to adhere to professional "ABAA" guidelines although you are not nor have ever been a member. This is an arrogant claim which seeks to profit from association with whom you are not actually associated. Worst of all, you cannot be reprimanded for breaching ABAA rules, because you aren't actually a member of that august body. I said I follow their grading standards. My exemplary record as a bookseller should adequately confirm this. 2. Where a well-known UK Ebay dealer and I sold the same book as a ragged but good reader copy, you listed it on Ebay as a "very presentable copy". I think this is evidence enough of your duplicituous intent. Oddly enough, the copy I sold delighted the customer. I think this is adequate evidence that you are a stupid **** with nothing useful to do besides prowl in dumpsters and snap at the heels of your betters. Now run along and give Fatima a hand with the cabbages. I realize it must gall you to be a laughing stock in the book world, but you brought it on yourself. You may try keeping quiet to conceal your stupidity; unfortunately, there's not much to be done about your ugliness. Good day, J My, how greatly you honour yourself and your family with such language and sentiments. |
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Resolving John Pelan
John Pelan wrote:
2. After seeking to imply that you had multiple copies of THE SORCERER'S CHESSMEN, you side-stepped my suggestion that we compare my scans of the book I sold you with those of the book you sold on to a third party. Please could you therefore confirm - without ambiguity - whether or not the book you sold on Ebay was in fact the same copy I sold you? SS Do you suppose that I am at your beck and call to address impertinent questions from the likes of you? Since you take the time to respond to every one of his posts, it does appear you are at his "beck and call". Why not answer the question about the book and put this entire inane portion of your never ending flame war to rest? |
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Resolving John Pelan
On 7 Jun 2006 04:45:54 -0700, "Hardy-Boys.net"
wrote: Since you take the time to respond to every one of his posts, it does appear you are at his "beck and call". Why not answer the question about the book and put this entire inane portion of your never ending flame war to rest? Like that would end Barker's obsession? Cheers, John |
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Hardy-Boys.net wrote: Why not answer the question about the book and put this entire inane portion of your never ending flame war to rest? Hi sweetie, If you would go back through the links you would find that John has answered his questions many times over the past few years to no avail. How's that acne treatment coming? |
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Resolving John Pelan
Sam wrote:
If you would go back through the links you would find that John has answered his questions many times over the past few years to no avail. What the **** does that have to do with the issue at hand, you pimple? I've been posting to this NG for 10 years and am well aware of the interaction between those 2 guys. How's that acne treatment coming? Guess not so good since you're still here Mary. But, I guess, at least it keeps you off the streets and not molesting children like you normally do! PS: Go **** yourself, you inflamed hemorrhoid! |
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Resolving John Pelan
Hardy-Boys.net wrote:
Since you take the time to respond to every one of his posts, it does appear you are at his "beck and call". Why not answer the question about the book and put this entire inane portion of your never ending flame war to rest? You've spotted one of the flaws in Pelan's tactics. It *is* hypocritical to spend hours and hours typing up abusive responses whilst arguing that you are not at someone's beck and call. The reason why Pelan waffles so is because he dare not answer the question honestly and succinctly because he is nearly always lying. For example: 1. Pelan was asked perhaps one hundred times why he lied about owning shares in his former ISP. He must have devoted at least fifty hours to avoiding the question. The simple truth is that he *did* lie, but he didn't want to admit it. Indeed, he even got a third party to lie on his behalf, and he finally cooked up a ridiculous excuse which he got his "legal attorney" aka a writing buddy to cough up (an excuse which was so riddled with contradiction that the LA quickly crawled back under a stone fearing for his professional reputation). 2. Pelan recently revealed the very surprising news that he possesses a degree in Business Management, but when asked for validating details (such as where was it obtained), he instead threw a temper tantrum and spent ten times longer arguing why he did not have to cough up any proof than it would have taken to answer the question. 3. Pelan once claimed to own a valuable Evelyn Waugh book collection when his integrity was questionned over a racist remark he made about a Waugh book. However, he then spent ages arguing why he did not have to post a photo somewhere proving he did own these books. 4. Pelan was sacked from his day job last Christmas because he failed to hit key targets (probably spending too much lying on the internet to do any actual work). He told several friends and colleagues about this, and I heard it myself direct from someone who used to work with him. Indeed, the loss of income he has experienced has prompted a desparate attempt to offload his meagre book collection on Ebay, but that's another issue. The point here is that Pelan lied about getting sacked - he claimed on usenet to have retired voluntarily to concentrate on writing and publishing. Worse, he's a slimy hypocrite, because he harrangues others whom he suspects of being unemployed. 5. I am very sure that Pelan is not nor has ever been a member of the ABAA. Given this fact, his claim to follow ABAA protocols is worthless. I could claim to be an amateur soldier following Green Beret protocols, and it would be just as meaningless. Indeed, the fact that Pelan seeks to associate himself with a professional organisation to which he does not belong is rather disturbing. 6. Pelan exaggerates the condition of books he sells. He omits to mention serious faults and he lies about overall condition. I have direct first-hand experience of this - the Mark Hansom book - and because Pelan knows this, he is trying to avoid facing up to the fact that he's been caught out. Hence the ridiculous evasions, stream of unpleasant personal abuse, etc etc. And the notion that I am pestering him is absurd; it is Pelan who relentlessly pursues me from newsgroup to newsgroup; it is Pelan who sets up discussion groups at Yahoo dedicated to pestering me; it is Pelan who boasts about links with sock puppets which can be used to abuse and libel me. Pelan knows that I have 'got the goods on him'. He knows I have seen right through him and have caught him out in lie after lie. This is why he runs around screamly profanely like a demented chicken rather than stick calmly to the facts; this is why he rouses his buddies to form a lynching-party to try and silence me. We demonise that which we fear. Trouble is, Pelan hasn't cottoned on to the fact that I couldn't care a less if he runs around screaming "Kill the pig!" (a William Golding reference as I'm sure you know). I'm simply performing a public service, like Batman if you will (indeed, I have the same failings), trying to bring the baddies to book for their depraved antics. The bottom line is this: if I (or people like me) bring out the worst in John Pelan and his cronies, it is because it exists, not because I / we invented it. |
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