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Old April 20th 09, 12:51 PM posted to rec.collecting.stamps.discuss
Tony Vella
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"Gerhard Reichert" wrote
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"Tony Vella" schrieb im Newsbeitrag

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Since the dawn of time, Man has believed in Destiny. The term
"lottery" derives from lotto, the Italian word for Destiny, or fate.

The history of lotteries can be traced back to Moses and the Bible. To
award tracts of land west of the River Jordan, Moses used a lottery.
It is also said that the construction of the Great Wall of China was
financed by funds raised by lotteries, and that certain lottery forms
date back to the time of Julius Caesar.

snip

You know, Blair, I never thought it was Julius Caesar who ran a numbers
racket; I was pretty sure it was a later Caesar: Augustus, perhaps. You
learn something new every day. Thanks.
--
Tony Vella
Ottawa, Ontario, Canada


Hi Tony,

my Italian is not very good, to tell the truth, there is no Italian
language I learned, but the italian words for "destiny" I found a

destino, fato (in Latin: fatum), sorte, caso, coinzidenza, combinazione,
but no "lotto".

Do You have any reference for "lotto" used as destiny?




Hi Gerhard.

I think that in the snips my name got associated with the original
lotto=destiny. It was not my quote; as a matter of fact I would greatly
appreciate a quote showing this use. None of my dictionaries show this use.
Destino and sorte are the common terms for destiny - destino more common in
writing and sorte more used in conversation.
--
Tony Vella
Ottawa, Ontario, Canada

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Old April 20th 09, 03:14 PM posted to rec.collecting.stamps.discuss
Gerhard Reichert
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Tony Vella schrieb:
"Gerhard Reichert"
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I think that in the snips my name got associated with the original
lotto=destiny. It was not my quote; as a matter of fact I would greatly
appreciate a quote showing this use. None of my dictionaries show this
use. Destino and sorte are the common terms for destiny - destino more
common in writing and sorte more used in conversation.


Hi Tony,

You are quite right, it was a posting of Blair.
Peters link to a commercial casino and gamesite does not convince me.It
is a fact, that nowhere else people "lend" more descriptions and
explanations from others without critical reflection than in the
internet. Sometimes they copy word for word, phrase for phrase.

So I trust more into the dictionairies. :-)

Sorry for my wrong quoting Tony, hope You aren´t too angry about me :-)

Gerhard


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Old April 21st 09, 12:09 AM posted to rec.collecting.stamps.discuss
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In the context of your quote,
I volunteer "meer shark" as an oxymoron.


"Asia-translation" wrote in message
...
John Evelyn's Diary has this little episode about lotteries, too:

To London to see the event of the lottery which his Majesty had
permitted Sir Arthur Slingsby to set up for one day in the Banqueting
House at White-hall. I gaining only a trifle, as well as did the
King, Queene-consort and Queene-mother for neere 30 lotts; which was
thought to be contrived very unhandsomely by the master of it, who
was, in truth, a meer shark.

John Evelyn's Diary, 19 July 1664



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Old April 21st 09, 12:12 AM posted to rec.collecting.stamps.discuss
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....and I muse on the result the author would have deduced,
had the Queene won the lottery.

"Asia-translation" wrote in message
...
John Evelyn's Diary has this little episode about lotteries, too:

To London to see the event of the lottery which his Majesty had
permitted Sir Arthur Slingsby to set up for one day in the Banqueting
House at White-hall. I gaining only a trifle, as well as did the
King, Queene-consort and Queene-mother for neere 30 lotts; which was
thought to be contrived very unhandsomely by the master of it, who
was, in truth, a meer shark.

John Evelyn's Diary, 19 July 1664



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Old April 21st 09, 08:33 AM posted to rec.collecting.stamps.discuss
Asia-translation
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Rodney, I can't - and won't - be held responsible for Evelyn's
English. At times it's definitely odd.

My impression was that Evelyn expected it to be arranged that the
Queene-consort and Queene-mother would win rather more handsomely than
they did. I don't know if a crony of the meer shark made off with the
pickings. Evelyn doesn't say.

Tony of the Antipathies

rodney wrote:
...and I muse on the result the author would have deduced,
had the Queene won the lottery.

"Asia-translation" wrote in message
...
John Evelyn's Diary has this little episode about lotteries, too:

To London to see the event of the lottery which his Majesty had
permitted Sir Arthur Slingsby to set up for one day in the Banqueting
House at White-hall. I gaining only a trifle, as well as did the
King, Queene-consort and Queene-mother for neere 30 lotts; which was
thought to be contrived very unhandsomely by the master of it, who
was, in truth, a meer shark.

John Evelyn's Diary, 19 July 1664

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Old April 21st 09, 09:08 AM posted to rec.collecting.stamps.discuss
Rodney
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Tony,
a Diary, can by its very essence, includes bias,
adaption, improvement, and the individuals motives and prejudices.
As the bumper sticker advocates,
an understanding of math, may have diluted his opinion.

Had Mr. Slingsby been a meer shark, then I warrant, he be a very brave one,
dealing with the King, Queene-consort and Queene mother.

Who is this John Evelyn?



"Asia-translation"
Rodney, I can't - and won't - be held responsible for Evelyn's
English. At times it's definitely odd.




My impression was that Evelyn expected it to be arranged that the
Queene-consort and Queene-mother would win rather more handsomely than
they did. I don't know if a crony of the meer shark made off with the
pickings. Evelyn doesn't say.

Tony of the Antipathies

rodney wrote:
...and I muse on the result the author would have deduced,
had the Queene won the lottery.

"Asia-translation" wrote in
message
...
John Evelyn's Diary has this little episode about lotteries, too:

To London to see the event of the lottery which his Majesty had
permitted Sir Arthur Slingsby to set up for one day in the Banqueting
House at White-hall. I gaining only a trifle, as well as did the
King, Queene-consort and Queene-mother for neere 30 lotts; which was
thought to be contrived very unhandsomely by the master of it, who
was, in truth, a meer shark.

John Evelyn's Diary, 19 July 1664



 




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