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1870-71 Alsace-Lorraine cover analysis
Are there any reference works that would help establish a price for
the 1870-71 Alsace-Lorraine occupation cover? If so, what are they? http://cjoint.com/?hiaAK1HoYt "Price" could be either catalogue value or sale price from a dealer to a collector. Cover is from occupied France (Muhlhausen) to unoccupied France (Bordeaux) at a time when the 1st weight increment rate within the occupied territory was 20 centimes and the equivalent rate within unoccupied France was 25 centimes. The hand-written "25" represents the amount due within unoccupied France. Thanks for any guidance you can provide. Stan |
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1870-71 Alsace-Lorraine cover analysis
On Jul 7, 6:35*pm, Stan wrote:
Are there any reference works that would help establish a price for the 1870-71 Alsace-Lorraine occupation cover? *If so, what are they? http://cjoint.com/?hiaAK1HoYt "Price" could be either catalogue value or sale price from a dealer to a collector. Cover is from occupied France (Muhlhausen) to unoccupied France (Bordeaux) at a time when the 1st weight increment rate within the occupied territory was 20 centimes and the equivalent rate within unoccupied France was 25 centimes. The hand-written "25" represents the amount due within unoccupied France. Thanks for any guidance you can provide. Stan Hi Stan: You might have a better chance of an answer if you post this in the French philately news group (FRP). Most Alsace-Lorraine covers that I have seen lately were in collections, along with other covers and postal history. Thus, there was only an estimate for the whole collection. If you need assistance for a translation into French, I would be happy to assist you. Regards Blair |
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1870-71 Alsace-Lorraine cover analysis
Stan avait prétendu :
Are there any reference works that would help establish a price for the 1870-71 Alsace-Lorraine occupation cover? If so, what are they? http://cjoint.com/?hiaAK1HoYt "Price" could be either catalogue value or sale price from a dealer to a collector. Cover is from occupied France (Muhlhausen) to unoccupied France (Bordeaux) at a time when the 1st weight increment rate within the occupied territory was 20 centimes and the equivalent rate within unoccupied France was 25 centimes. The hand-written "25" represents the amount due within unoccupied France. Stan, my guess would be about 75 ¤ A quick search yielded the same kind of cover, except double weight (so 40c + 40c), Mulhausen horseshie date stamp in blue, unsold at 120 ¤. http://cjoint.com/?hitzof1hif (Roumet sale #512, may 2008). And, in oct 1871, it is a Germany to France cover. No longer occupied and non occupied France. Regards, -- Cordialement, Bruno |
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1870-71 Alsace-Lorraine cover analysis
bc92 had too big fingers for his keyboard :
Mulhausen horseshie date stamp in blue, unsold at 120 ¤. horseshoe, let's say. -- Cordialement, Bruno |
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1870-71 Alsace-Lorraine cover analysis
The dealer that sells most of those pieces is STRAPHIL because it is
from Strasbourg, capital from Alsace! Here a link from a page of his last "vente sur offre" : http://www.straphil.fr/vente-sur-off...mkt=1278610446 I'll get the results (prices) next week, but I think they should also be published on their site!! 75 ¤ would be a good price for your letter I think. -- Pour m'envoyer un mail, remplacer anti par droger et manama par wanadoo; to send me directly a mail replace anti with droger and manama with wanadoo; |
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1870-71 Alsace-Lorraine cover analysis
Il se trouve que Droger Jean-Paul a formulé :
The dealer that sells most of those pieces is STRAPHIL because it is from Strasbourg, capital from Alsace! Here a link from a page of his last "vente sur offre" : http://www.straphil.fr/vente-sur-off...mkt=1278610446 I'll get the results (prices) next week, but I think they should also be published on their site!! 75 ¤ would be a good price for your letter I think. I had not finished!! it exist catalogue for all those cancelations, they was issued by the SPAL: Association des Spécialistes en Marques Postales et Oblitérations d'Alsace - Lorraine (SPAL) Coordonnées personnelles du président: M. Alain Sturm 14 chemin Fried 67100 STRASBOURG 03 88 84 17 10 Réunions : 3ème dimanche à 9h30 (sauf en juillet et en août) YG Hôtel 14, rue Jean Monnet - Eckbolsheim Lorraine - N° FFAP VI-84 (SPAL) I have not found an Internet Site! All catalogue are relatively old issues and are not easy to be found because German collectors search it always!!! -- Pour m'envoyer un mail, remplacer anti par droger et manama par wanadoo; to send me directly a mail replace anti with droger and manama with wanadoo; |
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1870-71 Alsace-Lorraine cover analysis
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Thanks to all. The SPAL site (thanks Sir F. A. Rien)! has lists of sales and prices, prices that suggest that the estimates given in response to my question are reasonable. A search of Delcampe for similar covers found several, and all with starting bids in the same general range. Blair's offer made a lot of sense and was appreciated, but Bruno and Jean-Pierre managed to provide French Rec Philatelie input without testing my high school French or Blair's undoubtedly better ability with the language. The cover was bought for a modest exhibit, and I was using Maury 2009 for inventory and write-up reasons. Maury had some similar covers, but nothing that really matched, and the vaguely similar covers were priced far higher than seemed reasonable. Bruno and Jean-Pierre confirmed that "vaguely similar" was not good enough, as exactly similar covers probably sell for 50 to 100 Euros. As a secondary comment, I enjoy the great amount of information provided by Maury, but Bruno made a very good point that by October 1871, the Franco-Prussian War had been over for several months, and Muhhausen was now part of Germany, not "occupied territory," despite the wording in Maury. Thanks for the help. Stan |
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1870-71 Alsace-Lorraine cover analysis
Stan a exprimé avec précision :
Thanks to all. The SPAL site (thanks Sir F. A. Rien)! has lists of sales and prices, prices that suggest that the estimates given in response to my question are reasonable. Quality is important, too. Your cover is very good-looking, indeed. Best regards, -- Cordialement, Bruno |
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