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Roman coin wanted - serious collectors please
On Wed, 23 Aug 2006 21:29:17 +0200, Bob Hairgrove wrote:
On 23 Aug 2006 05:46:38 -0700, "Dr Ewan Jackson" wrote: In any events, most of the eBay dealers who aren't charlatans do not sell coins worth collecting. What is your definition of a "serious collector"? I must have missed that somewhere down the line. Oh, he graced us with that, you may have missed it. Apparently anyone other than collectors of ancient and/or Roman coins (I forget which he said) is just an accumulator. Who knew? That said, I've got some old Roman stuff, and (shrug) I don't see any point in getting any more of 'em. |
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Roman coin wanted - serious collectors please
On 23 Aug 2006 19:35:05 GMT, Dave Hinz wrote:
On Wed, 23 Aug 2006 21:29:17 +0200, Bob Hairgrove wrote: On 23 Aug 2006 05:46:38 -0700, "Dr Ewan Jackson" wrote: In any events, most of the eBay dealers who aren't charlatans do not sell coins worth collecting. What is your definition of a "serious collector"? I must have missed that somewhere down the line. Oh, he graced us with that, you may have missed it. Apparently anyone other than collectors of ancient and/or Roman coins (I forget which he said) is just an accumulator. Who knew? Thanks, Dave ... I wonder how many of these "serious collectors" ever find something they consider to be collectible in their pocket change? That said, I've got some old Roman stuff, and (shrug) I don't see any point in getting any more of 'em. -- Bob Hairgrove |
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Roman coin wanted - serious collectors please
"Bob Hairgrove" wrote in message ... On 23 Aug 2006 05:46:38 -0700, "Dr Ewan Jackson" wrote: In any events, most of the eBay dealers who aren't charlatans do not sell coins worth collecting. What is your definition of a "serious collector"? I must have missed that somewhere down the line. You can only be a serious coin collector if you are a doctor. ;-) |
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Roman coin wanted - serious collectors please
On Wed, 23 Aug 2006 22:51:39 GMT, Dr. Roman Coinclecter wrote:
"Bob Hairgrove" wrote in message ... On 23 Aug 2006 05:46:38 -0700, "Dr Ewan Jackson" wrote: In any events, most of the eBay dealers who aren't charlatans do not sell coins worth collecting. What is your definition of a "serious collector"? I must have missed that somewhere down the line. You can only be a serious coin collector if you are a doctor. ;-) Doctorate, apparently, not "heal people" doctor. |
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Roman coin wanted - serious collectors please
"Dave Hinz" wrote in message ... On Wed, 23 Aug 2006 22:51:39 GMT, Dr. Roman Coinclecter wrote: "Bob Hairgrove" wrote in message ... On 23 Aug 2006 05:46:38 -0700, "Dr Ewan Jackson" wrote: In any events, most of the eBay dealers who aren't charlatans do not sell coins worth collecting. What is your definition of a "serious collector"? I must have missed that somewhere down the line. You can only be a serious coin collector if you are a doctor. ;-) Doctorate, apparently, not "heal people" doctor. I recommend amputation of the diseased accumulation. Those suffering from accumulationitis can always get an accumulationectomy. I have a bad case of Jeffersonitis with that dreadful steporeah that comes with this terrible infection. You don't even want to see the rash! I really feel bad for those who have Silverhoarders Syndrome--thank God for the Silverhoarders Research Institute and that wonderful recovery program created by Dr. Dansco. ;-) |
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Roman coin wanted - serious collectors please
Dr Ewan Jackson wrote: Dear fellow collectors I am on the verge of completing a collection of all the ancient Roman coins of each and every emperors. I am down to my last 2 emperors. Has anybody EVER seen a coin of the emperors Glycerius and Olybrius? The alleged Glycerius on wildwinds.com is a gross misattribution of a commonplace Honorius, and I have never seen either a Glycerius or an Olybrius for sale - not in any of the major auction houses, let alone on e-fake i mean eBay. If anybody has any information about where or how I might obtain these, I would be greatly appreciative. Ewan ewan, i'm impressed. i have to assume since you are only missing olybrius and glycerius you're skipping all the usurpers as well as the proto-byzantines arcadius-anastasius. it's too bad you've come this far and not decided to add the empresses as well - what are you going to do when you actually get these two guys? i've been shown, and tentatively offered a glycerius a few years ago but was much too expensive at $10,000 for me to afford it (a tremissis). still, that was a relative bargain. there have been a number of glycerii available. olybrius is another matter altogether. the last tremissis for sale *that i'm aware of* was in the neville '25 sale a picture of which can be seen at http://tantaluscoins.com/browse.php?qs=olybrius along with a cast from the BM's only sample. not counting usurpers and empresses the set can be completed and i would have guessed olybrius would have been the most difficult. the full imperial set, which i'm pursuing myself, would look like this: http://tantaluscoins.com/coins/grid28.php ras |
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Roman coin wanted - serious collectors please
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oups.com... .... olybrius is another matter altogether. the last tremissis for sale *that i'm aware of* was in the neville '25 sale a picture of which can be seen at http://tantaluscoins.com/browse.php?qs=olybrius along with a cast from the BM's only sample. That's not the last Olybrius sold. Mazzini, PL. LXXVI (ex Jameson no. 538, ex Levis 1925, ex Amecourt no. 825) is one example, if there was nothing later (which I find hard to believe). They do come up for sale at intervals measured in decades. It's worth noting that Mazzini had a solidus and two tremisses of Glycerius, but only the one tremissis of Olybrius. Lacam records four examples of solidi (two varieties, all from Rome) and six tremisses, two from Rome and four from Milan. This is not a complete census. There are specimens in private hands not included in his research. Lacam, incidentally, credits the BM with one solidus and three tremisses of Olybrius. It is however true that the coinage of Olybrius is so extremely rare that some of the most important collections lack an example - the ANS and Dumbarton Oaks collections, for instance. So if Dr. Jackson succeeds in that quest, it will be quite an accomplishment. Dave Welsh Classical Coins www.classicalcoins.com |
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Roman coin wanted - serious collectors please
Dave Hinz wrote: On 23 Aug 2006 05:46:38 -0700, Dr Ewan Jackson wrote: Dave Hinz wrote: My. What a _remarkable coincidence_ that these two just happened to just show up here. Hey "doc". Libelous. How so, doc? You were implying I am not really a Ph.D. in a public forum. How is that not libelous? I don't suppose you can provide an actual cite for that claim. Because your number seems a bit, shall we say, suspect. The point of my post, which you evidently read (but did not grasp) is that MANY dealers on eBay are fakers of antiquities. No, doc, you said "50%". You made a specific, numeric claim. And no reasonable person would have taken my claim to mean that I have meticulously carried out a survey of eFake dealers and arrived at that precise percentage. Only a moron would have taken my statement literally. I note you haven't disputed my point, or even engaged my argument, preferring to attack me based on semantics instead. If that is your game you should know that 50% is not a numeric but a percentile. [wankage snipped to save you further embarassment] Ewan |
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Roman coin wanted - serious collectors please
Dave Hinz wrote: On Wed, 23 Aug 2006 21:29:17 +0200, Bob Hairgrove wrote: On 23 Aug 2006 05:46:38 -0700, "Dr Ewan Jackson" wrote: In any events, most of the eBay dealers who aren't charlatans do not sell coins worth collecting. What is your definition of a "serious collector"? I must have missed that somewhere down the line. Oh, he graced us with that, you may have missed it. Apparently anyone other than collectors of ancient and/or Roman coins (I forget which he said) is just an accumulator. Who knew? That said, I've got some old Roman stuff, and (shrug) I don't see any point in getting any more of 'em An ignoramus like you probably wouldn't. Ewan |
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Roman coin wanted - serious collectors please
Dave Welsh wrote: "Dr Ewan Jackson" wrote in message ups.com... Dave Welsh wrote: ... If you have gotten your collection to that point, you are to be congratulated. It must be extremely impressive. One wonders whether you have included third century usurpers in your list of emperors, or only those who struck at Imperial mints. ... I confess I don't have Dryantilla, wife of Regalianus, but she's an empress not an emperor. Her antoniniani do come up at long intervals. Like those of Regelianus, they are generally very poorly struck over earlier denarii. Other than that I have all the third century usurpers as far as I know. Name one and I'll tell you what coin I have of him. Amandus? Nope. You got me there. Bonosus? I have a billon antoninianus, with emperor holding spear on reverse. Silbannacus? Saturninus? I have MOST usurpers but not these. Your point is well taken Ewan |
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