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"Frank Provasek" wrote in message .com... "a. linklurker" wrote in message news:52gnb.44005$e01.102429@attbi_s02... "Frank Provasek" wrote "Bob Niland" wrote Frank Provasek admitted: I have been the perp of newsgroup spam campaigns for several years. I have never sent spam. Period. Never. if someone received an email from you that was "commercial" in nature, featured your ebay auctions, and hte person specifically did not state they wanted to hear from you, its spam. Do you have a confirmation in WRITING from every buyer/bidder/non-winner of your auctions that they want to hear from you about your future auctions? You must be able to prove that. IF not, then you are a spammer. And you spam. |
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stupid more than 4-line-sig snipped
--- follow nettiquete moron. 4 lines only for a sig This IS a 4 line signature, you moron! RARE COIN AUCTIONS NO MINIMUMS http://www.frankcoins.com Ebay Powerseller FRANKCOINS Texas Auction License 11259 Board member of Texas Coin Dealers Association, Fort Worth Coin Club. Member: Texas Numismatic Assoc, American Numismatic Assoc. |
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Rip Curl says
I use eBay not because I wanna be a customer of those who use it to sell their items. IM NOT your customer. eBay only provides me with a way to meet you "half-way". You have a product I want; eBay provides the venue for you to sell me that item. YOU are the only customer of eBay as any other seller on eBay is. If you dont like their rules that you agreed to when you signed up, then YOU shouldn't be using eBay. Are you really that ignorant in your knowlege of basic business? If you buy something that I sell on ebay, who do you pay? Me or ebay? If you pay ME, you are MY customer. I pay ebay, and I am THEIR customer. RARE COIN AUCTIONS NO MINIMUMS http://www.frankcoins.com Ebay Powerseller FRANKCOINS Texas Auction License 11259 Board member of Texas Coin Dealers Association, Fort Worth Coin Club. Member: Texas Numismatic Assoc, American Numismatic Assoc. |
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Frank Provasek wrote:
"a. linklurker" wrote in message news:45knb.45457$e01.110623@attbi_s02... The lurkers *don't* support him in email. link*lurker* Actually I have received 7 very nice supportive emails, but the writers just don't want to post public comments and get flamed here. Well, I do not want to get flamed, but I will go on record that I do support Frank and hope that he is back to selling ASAP. I enjoy his sales, I have bought from him, I am on his mailing list and I will buy from him again. ===================== Wheeler.... (Roscoe) "We don't like their sound, and guitar music is on the way out." Decca Recording Co. rejecting the Beatles, 1962. |
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On Tue, 28 Oct 2003 04:48:18 GMT, Wildwood is
alleged to have written: Finally... "Frank Provasek" has come back to alt.marketing.online.ebay... "a. linklurker" wrote in message news:45knb.45457$e01.110623@attbi_s02... The lurkers *don't* support him in email. link*lurker* Actually I have received 7 very nice supportive emails, but the writers just don't want to post public comments and get flamed here. Seven support e-mails that you cannot/will not produce vs how many posters over the various threads who agreed that you were wrong? I'll produce another, I sent one of those supportive emails. I think Frank has made some enemies and is a victim of their retaliation. FWIW, Frank was not NARU'd for spamming. And I doubt the NARU will stick, though Frank wouldn't be the first person kicked off of Ebay for false reasons. Bruce |
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Bruce Hickmott wrote:
FWIW, Frank was not NARU'd for spamming... Why was he NARU'd? Lumpy -- www.lumpymusic.com In Your Ears for 40 Years |
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On Tue, 28 Oct 2003 06:57:37 -0700, "Lumpy" is
alleged to have written: Bruce Hickmott wrote: FWIW, Frank was not NARU'd for spamming... Why was he NARU'd? Lumpy Frank can share if he pleases, he sent me a copy of Ebay's letter via private email and I won't post it without permission. Bruce |
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"Bruce Hickmott" wrote Wildwood wrote "Frank Provasek" wrote "a. linklurker" wrote The lurkers *don't* support him in email. link*lurker* Actually I have received 7 very nice supportive emails, but the writers just don't want to post public comments and get flamed here. Seven support e-mails that you cannot/will not produce vs how many posters over the various threads who agreed that you were wrong? I'll produce another, I sent one of those supportive emails. That's not another: that's one of the seven. I think Frank has made some enemies and is a victim of their retaliation. It's easy to make enemies, when you invade someone's space. FWIW, Frank was not NARU'd for spamming. And I doubt the NARU will stick, though Frank wouldn't be the first person kicked off of Ebay for false reasons. Bruce No, he wouldn't. Even if he were the first person ever to be kicked off of ebay. 612 articles later.....they still don't get it: http://groups.google.com/groups?hl=e...inm=3&as_miny= 1995&as_maxd=9&as_maxm=8&as_maxy=2003&th=501c999b4 049d579&seekm=8a1Ya.17494%24Vx2.8926471%40newssvr 28.news.prodigy.com#link1 http://tinyurl.com/solv Interesting: "And I doubt the NARU will stick, though Frank wouldn't be the first person kicked off of Ebay for false reasons" What can we infer from that revelation? link |
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Bruce Hickmott wrote:
I think Frank has made some enemies Perhaps needlessly. Frank is not listening to himself, nor to how his message is being received. He apparently came here to recruit allies, and got mostly foes instead. and is a victim of their retaliation. Claims of victimhood get little sympathy. It is all too often the refuge of the criminal and the sanctuary of the clinically paranoid. Frank has a real issue (how to safely email former customers once they also become eBay customers) - but he managed to let a discussion become a debate, then escalate to an argument, then a shouting match and apparently open internet warfare. This progression is all too common on netnews and preventing it requires some care and restraint. Advocating something that can merely be mistaken for spam requires great diplomacy. I don't think Frank will be up for the Nobel Peace Prize anytime soon. -- Regards, PO Box 248 Bob Niland Enterprise Kansas USA which, due to spam, is: 67441-0248 email4rjn AT yahoo DOT com http://www.access-one.com/rjn Unless otherwise specifically stated, expressing personal opinions and NOT speaking for any employer, client or Internet Service Provider. |
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