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Old March 23rd 10, 01:36 AM posted to rec.collecting.stamps.discuss
phantomm_1
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Greetings,

Here is front and back of a pair of Franklins.
Would this be considered a printing error on the back?

http://cjoint.com/?dxbIh7NJND front


http://cjoint.com/?dxbI7T5LIj back







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Old March 23rd 10, 02:26 AM posted to rec.collecting.stamps.discuss
rodney
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US specialists may respond,
I refer to them as "offsets" where part print has adhered to the back,
Can attract a serious premium on some stamps
I have seen a complete transference of an entire design on Victorian Revenues.
Your example just a curiosity for mine, quite common.


"phantomm_1" wrote in message ...
Greetings,

Here is front and back of a pair of Franklins.
Would this be considered a printing error on the back?

http://cjoint.com/?dxbIh7NJND front


http://cjoint.com/?dxbI7T5LIj back









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Old March 23rd 10, 08:35 AM posted to rec.collecting.stamps.discuss
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On Mar 23, 12:26*pm, "rodney" pookiethai@NOSPAM iprimus.com.au
wrote:
US specialists may respond,
I refer to them as "offsets" where part print has adhered to the back,
Can attract a serious premium on some stamps
I have seen a complete transference of an entire design on Victorian Revenues.
Your example just a curiosity for mine, quite common.

"phantomm_1" wrote in ink.net...
Greetings,


Here is front and back of a pair of Franklins.
Would this be considered a printing error on the back?


http://cjoint.com/?dxbIh7NJND* front


http://cjoint.com/?dxbI7T5LIj* back


I agree with that young rascal, Rodney.

If it's printed on the back, the image should be normal, not reversed
- as in your example. The reversed image comes about when a sheet is
placed on top of another sheet on which the ink is still wet, thus
transferring some portion of the image to the top sheet. True printed
both sides errors are rather uncommon. Here is an example from Bhopal

Front of SG 100a:

http://i251.photobucket.com/albums/g...nt1200dpi..jpg

and the back

http://i251.photobucket.com/albums/g...ack1200dpi.jpg

It was done by Perkins, Bacon, who printed the Penny Black, too, not
some backwoods print shop.

Tony
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Old March 23rd 10, 12:27 PM posted to rec.collecting.stamps.discuss
rodney
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"Asia-translation"
I agree with that young rascal, Rodney.


Well you should have been with me today,
I was want of purchase of a new pair of disposable spectacles
($3 at the red dot shop)
The lass behind the counter addressed me as "Luv"

If that isn't a sign of old age, I do not know what is.




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Old March 24th 10, 09:20 AM posted to rec.collecting.stamps.discuss
Ian Cox
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On Mar 23, 2:36*am, "phantomm_1" wrote:
Greetings,

Here is front and back of a pair of Franklins.
Would this be considered a printing error on the back?

http://cjoint.com/?dxbIh7NJND* front

http://cjoint.com/?dxbI7T5LIj* back


The correct printing term for this is set-off. Effectively all that
it is, is ink from the sheet below that has transferred to the sheet
above when the sheet was in the delivery pile. With modern day
printing technology this sort of thing is non-existant.

There is no way that could be classified as an error, neither is it a
variety or a flaw.

ian

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Old March 24th 10, 05:39 PM posted to rec.collecting.stamps.discuss
Rein
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Op Wed, 24 Mar 2010 17:10:07 +0100 schreef Sir F. A. Rien
:

Ian Cox found these unused words:

On Mar 23, 2:36*am, "phantomm_1" wrote:
Greetings,

Here is front and back of a pair of Franklins.
Would this be considered a printing error on the back?

http://cjoint.com/?dxbIh7NJND* front

http://cjoint.com/?dxbI7T5LIj* back


The correct printing term for this is set-off. Effectively all that
it is, is ink from the sheet below that has transferred to the sheet
above when the sheet was in the delivery pile. With modern day
printing technology this sort of thing is non-existant.

There is no way that could be classified as an error, neither is it a
variety or a flaw.

ian


The usual term applies is 'freak'.


coming from the old-german word for girlie ...


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Old March 24th 10, 06:48 PM posted to rec.collecting.stamps.discuss
Tony Clayton[_2_]
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In a recent message "phantomm_1" wrote:

Greetings,

Here is front and back of a pair of Franklins.
Would this be considered a printing error on the back?

http://cjoint.com/?dxbIh7NJND front


http://cjoint.com/?dxbI7T5LIj back


There are three main types of such error.

The first is as in the India stamp where the same design is on both sides.
This is usually printer's waste where they have been testing the plate
and save paper by using both sides.

The second is where the ink has not dried and the image is partially
stuck onto the reverse of the sheet above. Your example looks like
one of these, and sadly has no great value, I would have thought.

The third is the true offset, where the printer has run without a
sheet of paper, thus inking the backing roller. The next sheet through
gets a complete reverse impression on the back, as well as the correct
impression on the front.

Examples of this can be seen at

http://www.italianstamps.co.uk/kingdom/leoni/index.html

for an Italian definitive stamp, and at

http://www.italianstamps.co.uk/colon...ean/index.html

for an overprint used for Rhodes

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Old March 25th 10, 10:42 AM posted to rec.collecting.stamps.discuss
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Default Print Error on Back

Very nice Anton!
thanks for sharing.


"CASACUDOR" wrote in message
...
On Mar 23, 2:36 am, "phantomm_1" wrote:
Greetings,

Here is front and back of a pair of Franklins.
Would this be considered a printing error on the back?

http://cjoint.com/?dxbIh7NJND front

http://cjoint.com/?dxbI7T5LIj back


Here Romanian old stamps offset printed from 1867 thin paper
king Carol I'st catalog Yvert or Michel 16 see the link

https://sites.google.com/site/casacu...-20-par-offset

regards,
Anton


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Old March 25th 10, 11:27 AM posted to rec.collecting.stamps.discuss
CASACUDOR
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Default Print Error on Back

On Mar 23, 2:36*am, "phantomm_1" wrote:
Greetings,

Here is front and back of a pair of Franklins.
Would this be considered a printing error on the back?

http://cjoint.com/?dxbIh7NJND* front

http://cjoint.com/?dxbI7T5LIj* back


Here Romanian old stamps offset printed from 1867 thin paper
king Carol I'st catalog Yvert or Michel 16 see the link

https://sites.google.com/site/casacu...-20-par-offset

regards,
Anton
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Old March 25th 10, 12:51 PM posted to rec.collecting.stamps.discuss
CASACUDOR
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On Mar 25, 11:42*am, "rodney" pookiethai@NOSPAM iprimus.com.au
wrote:
Very nice Anton!
thanks for sharing.

"CASACUDOR" wrote in message

...
On Mar 23, 2:36 am, "phantomm_1" wrote:

Greetings,


Here is front and back of a pair of Franklins.
Would this be considered a printing error on the back?


http://cjoint.com/?dxbIh7NJNDfront


http://cjoint.com/?dxbI7T5LIjback


Here Romanian old stamps offset printed from 1867 thin paper
king Carol I'st catalog Yvert or Michel 16 see the link

https://sites.google.com/site/casacu...-20-par-offset

regards,
Anton


And another one from :
1967 AUSTRALIA Scott 399 offset printed

regards,
Anton
 




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