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Italy what is this?
ITALIE. Porte-timbre d'Emilio NERI - Négociant en TP à Florence. Neuf. Sans
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Stamp dealer Florence
"rod allan" wrote in message ... ITALIE. Porte-timbre d'Emilio NERI - Négociant en TP à Florence. Neuf. Sans charnière. |
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"rod allan" wrote: ITALIE. Porte-timbre d'Emilio NERI - Négociant en TP à Florence. Neuf. Sans charnière. Porte-timbres were a fad in the early 1900s. They consisted of a label with text surrounding a space for a stamp. They were designed to be stuck on the enveloppe and the stamp applied upon them. Nothing like an examp;e: http://www.cijoint.fr/cjlink.php?fil...cijKV3dj7r.jpg All kind of businesses and associations issued them. They were particularly popular in France and I remember Yvert listed them in older editions. They are still considered highly collectable, specially on cover. The ad you quoted is for a «porte-timbre» issued by an Italian stamp dealer. Condition is described as «Mint, no hinge mark» Rgards Richard |
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Richard Thouin a écrit :
In article , "rod allan" wrote: ITALIE. Porte-timbre d'Emilio NERI - Négociant en TP à Florence. Neuf. Sans charnière. Porte-timbres were a fad in the early 1900s. They consisted of a label with text surrounding a space for a stamp. They were designed to be stuck on the enveloppe and the stamp applied upon them. Nothing like an examp;e: http://www.cijoint.fr/cjlink.php?fil...cijKV3dj7r.jpg All kind of businesses and associations issued them. They were particularly popular in France and I remember Yvert listed them in older editions. They are still considered highly collectable, specially on cover. The ad you quoted is for a «porte-timbre» issued by an Italian stamp dealer. Condition is described as «Mint, no hinge mark» Regards Richard Bonjour Richard, Hi Rod (and the others chaps ;-) Richard is perfectly right. Some other examples here : http://www.j257.fr/porte-timbres.htm There are also what we in France call "Timbres-Monnaie". You will find examples here : http://collectiondemonnaie.net/timbresmonnaie/ You *must* click on the link (near the bottom of the page) labelled : " En voici une vision d'ensemble ! (cardiaque s'abstenir...) " to see and incredible number of these "coins" which advertised for different companies. They were used in France between 1920 and 1924 to replace coins (after the 1st WW, aluminum and copper were so scarce that it was not possible to manufacture enough low value coins) Those "stamps used as coins" were 1st used in the US during the Civil War (they were invented and patented in 1862 by John Gault) : http://choyt48.home.comcast.net/~cho...ostage_run.htm -- All the best, Pierre |
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Thank you my friend, helpful advice as usual. I cannot believe in 10 years I have not come across these. Using the text on my example I spent hours kicking tyres on the web without result. Cheers "Pierre COURTIADE" wrote in message ... Richard Thouin a écrit : In article , "rod allan" wrote: ITALIE. Porte-timbre d'Emilio NERI - Négociant en TP à Florence. Neuf. Sans charnière. Porte-timbres were a fad in the early 1900s. They consisted of a label with text surrounding a space for a stamp. They were designed to be stuck on the enveloppe and the stamp applied upon them. Nothing like an examp;e: http://www.cijoint.fr/cjlink.php?fil...cijKV3dj7r.jpg All kind of businesses and associations issued them. They were particularly popular in France and I remember Yvert listed them in older editions. They are still considered highly collectable, specially on cover. The ad you quoted is for a «porte-timbre» issued by an Italian stamp dealer. Condition is described as «Mint, no hinge mark» Regards Richard Bonjour Richard, Hi Rod (and the others chaps ;-) Richard is perfectly right. Some other examples here : http://www.j257.fr/porte-timbres.htm There are also what we in France call "Timbres-Monnaie". You will find examples here : http://collectiondemonnaie.net/timbresmonnaie/ You *must* click on the link (near the bottom of the page) labelled : " En voici une vision d'ensemble ! (cardiaque s'abstenir...) " to see and incredible number of these "coins" which advertised for different companies. They were used in France between 1920 and 1924 to replace coins (after the 1st WW, aluminum and copper were so scarce that it was not possible to manufacture enough low value coins) Those "stamps used as coins" were 1st used in the US during the Civil War (they were invented and patented in 1862 by John Gault) : http://choyt48.home.comcast.net/~cho...ostage_run.htm -- All the best, Pierre |
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rod allan a écrit :
Thank you my friend, helpful advice as usual. I cannot believe in 10 years I have not come across these. Using the text on my example I spent hours kicking tyres on the web without result. Cheers Rod, I may understand the reasons for that : 1 - You were using French words (may be without knowing they were French words) for your searches whithin Internet sites writen in English 2 - You had no idea of what a porte-timbre was : I also had (as Richard did) some knowledge in that matter : this helps a lot directing the searches 3 - I also spent a non negligible amount of time in my search So you should not be ashamed if your searches were unsuccessful -- Kind regards, Pierre |
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G'day Pierre, I had a porte timbre vignette and did not know what the hell it was (wine parcel label I thought) I copied that French from an online auction catalogue that had one for sale (10 euros) Avoir Bon nuit and all my best regards "Pierre COURTIADE" wrote in message ... rod allan a écrit : Thank you my friend, helpful advice as usual. I cannot believe in 10 years I have not come across these. Using the text on my example I spent hours kicking tyres on the web without result. Cheers Rod, I may understand the reasons for that : 1 - You were using French words (may be without knowing they were French words) for your searches whithin Internet sites writen in English 2 - You had no idea of what a porte-timbre was : I also had (as Richard did) some knowledge in that matter : this helps a lot directing the searches 3 - I also spent a non negligible amount of time in my search So you should not be ashamed if your searches were unsuccessful -- Kind regards, Pierre |
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Thank you Richard, a totally new concept for moi. They do look fascinating. Thanks for addressing my query Port Timbre Vignette check this out http://www.gibbonsstampmonthly.com/J...s/myfrance.pdf Rod "Richard Thouin" wrote in message ... In article , "rod allan" wrote: ITALIE. Porte-timbre d'Emilio NERI - Négociant en TP à Florence. Neuf. Sans charnière. Porte-timbres were a fad in the early 1900s. They consisted of a label with text surrounding a space for a stamp. They were designed to be stuck on the enveloppe and the stamp applied upon them. Nothing like an examp;e: http://www.cijoint.fr/cjlink.php?fil...cijKV3dj7r.jpg All kind of businesses and associations issued them. They were particularly popular in France and I remember Yvert listed them in older editions. They are still considered highly collectable, specially on cover. The ad you quoted is for a «porte-timbre» issued by an Italian stamp dealer. Condition is described as «Mint, no hinge mark» Rgards Richard |
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rod allan a écrit :
Thank you Richard, a totally new concept for moi. They do look fascinating. Thanks for addressing my query Port Timbre Vignette check this out http://www.gibbonsstampmonthly.com/J...s/myfrance.pdf Hi Rod, Thanks ! Very interesting article and nice pictures :-) I was going to ask you the meaning of G.S.M. and ... I just discovered it within your link ;-) -- Cheers, Pierre |
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