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  #31  
Old August 24th 08, 09:23 PM posted to alt.collecting.pens-pencils
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In ,
Jimmy wrote:

Maybe we need a "pilot" to guide us through this [Sailor] naming maze.


Speaking of which... I wish I knew of an illustrated taxonomy of
Pilot/Namiki pens.

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Old August 24th 08, 09:50 PM posted to alt.collecting.pens-pencils
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"Stephen Hust" wrote in message
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"Jimmy" wrote:

The 1911M Colors sounds like a nice pen, but the most expensive
one sounds too big. Is that the so-called "King of Pens", or is
that some outsize model?


If you scroll down to the last pictures on this page, you can see
several Sailor pens next to each other:

http://www.nibs.com/SailorPens.htm


Thanks for the comparison picture.
The yellow one 4th from the left is a 1911 Profit 14K, I think.
Would that be a 1911M Colors, 5th from the left?

  #33  
Old August 25th 08, 06:54 AM posted to alt.collecting.pens-pencils
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"Jimmy" wrote:

"Stephen Hust" wrote [...]


"Jimmy" wrote:


The 1911M Colors sounds like a nice pen, but the most expensive
one sounds too big. Is that the so-called "King of Pens", or is
that some outsize model?


If you scroll down to the last pictures on this page, you can
see several Sailor pens next to each other:

http://www.nibs.com/SailorPens.htm


Thanks for the comparison picture.
The yellow one 4th from the left is a 1911 Profit 14K, I think.
Would that be a 1911M Colors, 5th from the left?


I think the 4th from the left is a 1911M Colors, the "M" perhaps
standing for medium. There's also a "full size" 1911 Colors pen
(see links). The 5th from the left is a 1911 International (may
also be called the Standard).

http://www.fahrneyspens.com/Item--i-194412-BLU-B

http://www.nibs.com/Sailor1911FullSizeColors.htm

Apparently the "Profit" brand is used in the Japanese market.
There is some information on the subject, as well as more links,
he

http://www.fountainpennetwork.com/forum/index.php?showtopic=66572

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  #34  
Old August 28th 08, 07:37 PM posted to alt.collecting.pens-pencils
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I've got a nice MontBlanc that I use at home, but since it's a
discontinued model, I don't like to risk losing it. I own a couple of
the Phileas. It is great value for money, with a smooth nib and
generous flow. There is something "off" about the shape though; it
feels less than sure-footed. Too wide? Funny balance?

The brass half-lining makes it disturbingly top-heavy for me. I later
got the Kultur which is balanced better although it's not as
attractive.


I hardly use mine any more. I'd still recommend it as a good starting
pen. It's not too clunky unless you post the cap.


I don't post the cap and it's still too top-heavy for me. I'm sorry to
see them go because that was the pen I usually bought for others. We need
to find another best-ever fountain pen to recommend and give as gifts to
newbies.

Preferably one that won't be discontinued anytime soon.


Yes, it's a shame that it is being discontinued. I've given a few Phileas
to newbies, and they have been really enthusiastic. I've given a few Pilot
78Gs, but you have to use them yourself for a week to make sure they are
*really* OK. Besides, they are discontinued too.

I would say "Pelikano", but mine was disappointingly dry. If it would only
write a bit wetter, it might be quite a pleasant starter pen.

Sailor 1911 Profit 14Ks are almost cheap enough. I don't know how
consistently good they are though. They also use non-standard cartridges.


Yes, my Phileas recipients have been really pleased with their pens. I also
like to give pens that use carts that can be easily found. I've also given
the Waterman Ici Et La to women, but that pen's too small and
feminine-looking for me to give to everyone.

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Old August 28th 08, 07:44 PM posted to alt.collecting.pens-pencils
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"wolfy" wrote in message
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Cartridges are hard to get, but I order through www.yafaonline.com
Wolfy


Hobby Lobby has a good selection of Sheaffer carts in the calligraphy
section.


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  #36  
Old August 29th 08, 12:34 PM posted to alt.collecting.pens-pencils
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I've got a nice MontBlanc that I use at home, but since it's a
discontinued model, I don't like to risk losing it. I own a couple of
the Phileas. It is great value for money, with a smooth nib and
generous flow. There is something "off" about the shape though; it
feels less than sure-footed. Too wide? Funny balance?

The brass half-lining makes it disturbingly top-heavy for me. I later
got the Kultur which is balanced better although it's not as
attractive.


I hardly use mine any more. I'd still recommend it as a good starting
pen. It's not too clunky unless you post the cap.

I don't post the cap and it's still too top-heavy for me. I'm sorry to
see them go because that was the pen I usually bought for others. We
need to find another best-ever fountain pen to recommend and give as
gifts to newbies.

Preferably one that won't be discontinued anytime soon.


Yes, it's a shame that it is being discontinued. I've given a few Phileas
to newbies, and they have been really enthusiastic. I've given a few
Pilot 78Gs, but you have to use them yourself for a week to make sure
they are *really* OK. Besides, they are discontinued too.

I would say "Pelikano", but mine was disappointingly dry. If it would
only write a bit wetter, it might be quite a pleasant starter pen.

Sailor 1911 Profit 14Ks are almost cheap enough. I don't know how
consistently good they are though. They also use non-standard cartridges.


Yes, my Phileas recipients have been really pleased with their pens. I
also like to give pens that use carts that can be easily found. I've also
given the Waterman Ici Et La to women, but that pen's too small and
feminine-looking for me to give to everyone.


The Ici et La is a good suggestion, at least for newbie women, and seems to
be easily available. "Standard" carts are definitely an advantage, as
newbies can be reluctant to mess around with bottled ink. I included
converters with the Phileas, to encourage them to experiment. I think the
Ici et La is carts-only, unless Waterman do a mini converter.

  #37  
Old August 30th 08, 02:18 PM posted to alt.collecting.pens-pencils
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On Aug 17, 6:45*pm, "Jimmy" wrote:

What do you like every day as a cheap, good fountain pen? snip


Jim,
I like the Lami Safari, and prefer the *fine* point. http://
www.lamyusa.com/safari.html. I broke one after a few years, sent it
back to Lami, and they replaced it for a nominal fee. Alternately, you
can buy replacement parts at a fair price online from Lami if your pen
ever breaks. They also sell ink-converters, if you prefer using
bottled ink instead of cartridges. I prefer refilling the empty
cartridge with bottled ink from a syringe. New ones list for $30, and
can be found cheaper online. The Lami Safari the best value in a good
writing fountain pen that I've found so far.
Best,
Larry
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Old August 30th 08, 10:54 PM posted to alt.collecting.pens-pencils
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I've got a nice MontBlanc that I use at home, but since it's a
discontinued model, I don't like to risk losing it. I own a couple
of the Phileas. It is great value for money, with a smooth nib and
generous flow. There is something "off" about the shape though; it
feels less than sure-footed. Too wide? Funny balance?

The brass half-lining makes it disturbingly top-heavy for me. I later
got the Kultur which is balanced better although it's not as
attractive.


I hardly use mine any more. I'd still recommend it as a good starting
pen. It's not too clunky unless you post the cap.

I don't post the cap and it's still too top-heavy for me. I'm sorry to
see them go because that was the pen I usually bought for others. We
need to find another best-ever fountain pen to recommend and give as
gifts to newbies.

Preferably one that won't be discontinued anytime soon.


Yes, it's a shame that it is being discontinued. I've given a few
Phileas to newbies, and they have been really enthusiastic. I've given a
few Pilot 78Gs, but you have to use them yourself for a week to make
sure they are *really* OK. Besides, they are discontinued too.

I would say "Pelikano", but mine was disappointingly dry. If it would
only write a bit wetter, it might be quite a pleasant starter pen.

Sailor 1911 Profit 14Ks are almost cheap enough. I don't know how
consistently good they are though. They also use non-standard
cartridges.


Yes, my Phileas recipients have been really pleased with their pens. I
also like to give pens that use carts that can be easily found. I've also
given the Waterman Ici Et La to women, but that pen's too small and
feminine-looking for me to give to everyone.


The Ici et La is a good suggestion, at least for newbie women, and seems
to be easily available. "Standard" carts are definitely an advantage, as
newbies can be reluctant to mess around with bottled ink. I included
converters with the Phileas, to encourage them to experiment. I think the
Ici et La is carts-only, unless Waterman do a mini converter.


Yes, I gave one Phileas recipient a bottle of ink and when she learned a few
months later that I was going to a particular office supply store to check
out a pen and buy a bottle of ink, she asked that I get one for her, too, a
different color.

A long time ago, I read that the Ici Et La will accept a converter made for
an older ladies' pen by Waterman, but I never found any and have since
forgotten the name of the other pen.

As it is, the Ici Et La will accept the short carts made by Waterman,
Pelikan, and Rotring. Others are a little bit too big. I usually give a
couple or a few of the 6-packs of different colors by Pelikan so they may at
least enjoy some of the colors the rest of us do, such as the Royal Blue and
Turquoise, sometimes with Pink and/or Violet.

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Old August 31st 08, 12:29 AM posted to alt.collecting.pens-pencils
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The brass half-lining makes it disturbingly top-heavy for me. I
later got the Kultur which is balanced better although it's not as
attractive.


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...I've given a few Phileas to newbies

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Yes, my Phileas recipients have been really pleased with their pens. I
also like to give pens that use carts that can be easily found. I've
also given the Waterman Ici Et La to women, but that pen's too small and
feminine-looking for me to give to everyone.


The Ici et La is a good suggestion, at least for newbie women, and seems
to be easily available. "Standard" carts are definitely an advantage, as
newbies can be reluctant to mess around with bottled ink. I included
converters with the Phileas, to encourage them to experiment. I think the
Ici et La is carts-only, unless Waterman do a mini converter.


Yes, I gave one Phileas recipient a bottle of ink and when she learned a
few months later that I was going to a particular office supply store to
check out a pen and buy a bottle of ink, she asked that I get one for her,
too, a different color.

A long time ago, I read that the Ici Et La will accept a converter made
for an older ladies' pen by Waterman, but I never found any and have since
forgotten the name of the other pen.

As it is, the Ici Et La will accept the short carts made by Waterman,
Pelikan, and Rotring. Others are a little bit too big. I usually give a
couple or a few of the 6-packs of different colors by Pelikan so they may
at least enjoy some of the colors the rest of us do, such as the Royal
Blue and Turquoise, sometimes with Pink and/or Violet.


I always give boring carts (blue, black); stupid of course, considering that
newbies deserve the whole palette of "wow".

The Pilot/Namiki converters are tiny, and wide-ended (and hold next to
nothing)... if you carefully sawed off the end of a standard cart, and
Araldited it to one of these, you could probably create a converter that
would fit inside an Ici et La.

A tame guineapig (my sister) might soon get an enhanced Ici et La
experience. It looks great.

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Old August 31st 08, 09:05 AM posted to alt.collecting.pens-pencils
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In ,
Jimmy wrote:

"Bluesea" wrote in message
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A long time ago, I read that the Ici Et La will accept a converter made
for an older ladies' pen by Waterman, but I never found any and have

since
forgotten the name of the other pen.

newbies deserve the whole palette of "wow".

The Pilot/Namiki converters are tiny, and wide-ended (and hold next to
nothing)... if you carefully sawed off the end of a standard cart, and
Araldited it to one of these, you could probably create a converter that
would fit inside an Ici et La.


I wonder whether the "bantam" squeeze converters that Tryphon sells would
fit. The nipple diameter is "international" size, the overall length is
1-3/4", and the greatest diameter is about 1/4".

Brian
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