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Old June 19th 08, 04:04 PM posted to rec.collecting.stamps.discuss
Blair (TC)
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Default (RCSD) Hyperinflation getting worse in Zimbabwe

The following are the almost daily changes
in the number of Zimbabwean Dollars it
takes to purchase ONE US Dollar on the
parallel market.

(The official bank rate trails the parallel
market by about one week.)

May 2008
190,000,000 (1st)
200,000,000 (6th)
250,000,000 (14th)
315,000,000 (16th)
498,000,000 (22nd)
494,000,000 (23rd)
580,000,000 (28th)
703,000,000 (29th)
777,500,000 (30th)

June 2008
971,500,000 (1st)
1,123,000,000 (3rd)
1,221,500,000 (4th)
1,964,500,000 (5th)
2,159,000,000 (6th)
2,601,000,000 (7th)
3,022,000,000 (9th)
4,373,000,000 (10th)
4,912,000,000 (11th)
5,131,000,000 (12th)
6,164,500,000 (13th)
7,263,000,000 (16th)
9,288,500,000 (17th)
13,999,000,000 (18th)
17,169,000,000 (19th)

I don't know if these are the current postage rates.
(see below)

They COULD be changed daily if necessary.

They use Z, A, E, and R stamps for mail to
Zimbabwe, Africa, Europe and Rest of world.

The kast set that I saw had a high face
value stamp of ten million dollars, but
that was in April.

$10 million on May 01 is almost like
$ 1 BILLION (one thousand million) today.

POSTAGE RATES

DOMESTIC

Letters

Upto20g$150m

Over20gto100g$400m

Over100gto250g$450m

Over250gto500g$500m

Over500gto1kg$1.6bn

Over1kgto2kg$2.1bn


Printed Matter

Upto20g$150m

Over20gto100g$400m

Over100gto250g$420m

Over250gto500g$450m

Over500gto1kg$1.5bn

Over1kgto2kg$2bn


Newspapers

$150meach(registered)

$200meach(unregistered)


Library Books

$600m per book


LITERATURE FOR THE BLIND - FREE


I will post International Rates whe I get them
assembled and get back home.


Blair (2008 June 19)

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  #2  
Old June 19th 08, 07:09 PM posted to rec.collecting.stamps.discuss
Blair (TC)
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Default (RCSD) Hyperinflation getting worse in Zimbabwe

On Jun 19, 11:15 am, Joshua McGee wrote:
On Thu, 19 Jun 2008 08:04:39 -0700, Blair (TC) wrote:
(The official bank rate trails the parallel market by about one week.)


Is there anyone, then, making a killing shorting Zim dollars on the forex
market? Unfortunately, with this precarious a situation in Zimbabwe,
"making a killing" may not be simple slang....

--
Joshua H. McGee, Los Angeles, California, USA
Member: APS, ATA, ISWSC, AFDCS, MBPC, MCC, BPS
President:http://www.penguinstamps.org
Trade?:http://www.mcgees.org/stamp-offers/


Joshua:

Would you buy "anything" that dropped from
14 Billion per USD to 17.2 Billion per USD in ONE day?

I have heard that if folks there see a ten million dollar
bill laying on the ground, they just ignore it. Today,
ten million ZWD is one-seventeenth of a US cent.

Blair
  #3  
Old June 19th 08, 07:37 PM posted to rec.collecting.stamps.discuss
Blair (TC)
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Default (RCSD) Hyperinflation getting worse in Zimbabwe

On Jun 19, 11:04 am, "Blair (TC)" wrote:
The following are the almost daily changes
in the number of Zimbabwean Dollars it
takes to purchase ONE US Dollar on the
parallel market.

(The official bank rate trails the parallel
market by about one week.)

May 2008
190,000,000 (1st)
200,000,000 (6th)
250,000,000 (14th)
315,000,000 (16th)
498,000,000 (22nd)
494,000,000 (23rd)
580,000,000 (28th)
703,000,000 (29th)
777,500,000 (30th)

June 2008
971,500,000 (1st)
1,123,000,000 (3rd)
1,221,500,000 (4th)
1,964,500,000 (5th)
2,159,000,000 (6th)
2,601,000,000 (7th)
3,022,000,000 (9th)
4,373,000,000 (10th)
4,912,000,000 (11th)
5,131,000,000 (12th)
6,164,500,000 (13th)
7,263,000,000 (16th)
9,288,500,000 (17th)
13,999,000,000 (18th)
17,169,000,000 (19th)

I don't know if these are the current postage rates.
(see below)

They COULD be changed daily if necessary.

They use Z, A, E, and R stamps for mail to
Zimbabwe, Africa, Europe and Rest of world.

The kast set that I saw had a high face
value stamp of ten million dollars, but
that was in April.

$10 million on May 01 is almost like
$ 1 BILLION (one thousand million) today.

POSTAGE RATES

DOMESTIC

Letters

Upto20g$150m

Over20gto100g$400m

Over100gto250g$450m

Over250gto500g$500m

Over500gto1kg$1.6bn

Over1kgto2kg$2.1bn

Printed Matter

Upto20g$150m

Over20gto100g$400m

Over100gto250g$420m

Over250gto500g$450m

Over500gto1kg$1.5bn

Over1kgto2kg$2bn

Newspapers

$150meach(registered)

$200meach(unregistered)

Library Books

$600m per book

LITERATURE FOR THE BLIND - FREE

I will post International Rates whe I get them
assembled and get back home.

Blair (2008 June 19)



INTERNATIONAL (Surface Rates)

AFRICA - LETTERS

Up to 20g $900m

Over 20g to100g $1.1bn

Over 100g to 250g $2.1bn

Over 250g to 500g $3.2bn

Over 500g to 1kg $3.6bn

Over1kg to 2kg $6.4bn


AFRICA - PRINTED MATTER

Up to 20g $700m

Over 20g to100g $950m

Over 100g to 250g $1.7bn

Over 250g to 500g $2.5bn

Over 500g to 1kg $3.1bn

Over 1kg to 2kg $5.7bn


AFRICA - POSTCARDS

$900m each


AFRICA - Mail for the Blind

FREE

=============================

EUROPE - LETTERS

Up to 20g $1bn

Over 20g to 100g $1.3bn

Over100g to 250g $2.1bn

Over 250g to 500g $2.9bn

Over 500g to 1kg $3.8bn

Over 1kg to 2kg $7.2bn


EUROPE - PRINTED MATTER

Up to 20g $800m

Over 20g to 100g $960m

Over 100g to 250g $1.7bn

Over 250g to 500g $2.4bn

Over 500g to 1kg $3.1bn

Over 1kg to 2kg $6.3bn


EUROPE - POSTCARDS

$800m each


EUROPE - Mail for the Blind

FREE

==============================

Rest of the World - LETTERS

Up to 20g $1.4bn

Over 20g to 100g $3.1bn

Over 100g to 250g $4.7bn

Over 250g to 500g $7bn

Over 500g to 1kg $9.3bn

Over 1kg to 2kg $17.4bn


Rest of the World - PRINTED MATTER

Up to 20g $1.1bn

Over 20g to 100g $2.4bn

Over 100g to 250g $3.7bn

Over 250g to 500g $5.2bn

Over 500g to 1kg $6.6bn

Over 1kg to 2kg $13.1bn


Rest of the World - POSTCARDS

$1.4bn each


Rest of the World - Mail for the Blind

FREE

==============================

(Airmail Rates to Follow)

Blair (2008 June 19)

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Old June 20th 08, 02:47 AM posted to rec.collecting.stamps.discuss
Blair (TC)
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Default (RCSD) Hyperinflation getting worse in Zimbabwe

On Jun 19, 2:37 pm, "Blair (TC)" wrote:
On Jun 19, 11:04 am, "Blair (TC)" wrote:



The following are the almost daily changes
in the number of Zimbabwean Dollars it
takes to purchase ONE US Dollar on the
parallel market.


(The official bank rate trails the parallel
market by about one week.)


May 2008
190,000,000 (1st)
200,000,000 (6th)
250,000,000 (14th)
315,000,000 (16th)
498,000,000 (22nd)
494,000,000 (23rd)
580,000,000 (28th)
703,000,000 (29th)
777,500,000 (30th)


June 2008
971,500,000 (1st)
1,123,000,000 (3rd)
1,221,500,000 (4th)
1,964,500,000 (5th)
2,159,000,000 (6th)
2,601,000,000 (7th)
3,022,000,000 (9th)
4,373,000,000 (10th)
4,912,000,000 (11th)
5,131,000,000 (12th)
6,164,500,000 (13th)
7,263,000,000 (16th)
9,288,500,000 (17th)
13,999,000,000 (18th)
17,169,000,000 (19th)


I don't know if these are the current postage rates.
(see below)


They COULD be changed daily if necessary.


They use Z, A, E, and R stamps for mail to
Zimbabwe, Africa, Europe and Rest of world.


The kast set that I saw had a high face
value stamp of ten million dollars, but
that was in April.


$10 million on May 01 is almost like
$ 1 BILLION (one thousand million) today.


POSTAGE RATES


DOMESTIC


Letters


Upto20g$150m


Over20gto100g$400m


Over100gto250g$450m


Over250gto500g$500m


Over500gto1kg$1.6bn


Over1kgto2kg$2.1bn


Printed Matter


Upto20g$150m


Over20gto100g$400m


Over100gto250g$420m


Over250gto500g$450m


Over500gto1kg$1.5bn


Over1kgto2kg$2bn


Newspapers


$150meach(registered)


$200meach(unregistered)


Library Books


$600m per book


LITERATURE FOR THE BLIND - FREE


I will post International Rates whe I get them
assembled and get back home.


Blair (2008 June 19)


INTERNATIONAL (Surface Rates)

AFRICA - LETTERS

Up to 20g $900m

Over 20g to100g $1.1bn

Over 100g to 250g $2.1bn

Over 250g to 500g $3.2bn

Over 500g to 1kg $3.6bn

Over1kg to 2kg $6.4bn

AFRICA - PRINTED MATTER

Up to 20g $700m

Over 20g to100g $950m

Over 100g to 250g $1.7bn

Over 250g to 500g $2.5bn

Over 500g to 1kg $3.1bn

Over 1kg to 2kg $5.7bn

AFRICA - POSTCARDS

$900m each

AFRICA - Mail for the Blind

FREE

=============================

EUROPE - LETTERS

Up to 20g $1bn

Over 20g to 100g $1.3bn

Over100g to 250g $2.1bn

Over 250g to 500g $2.9bn

Over 500g to 1kg $3.8bn

Over 1kg to 2kg $7.2bn

EUROPE - PRINTED MATTER

Up to 20g $800m

Over 20g to 100g $960m

Over 100g to 250g $1.7bn

Over 250g to 500g $2.4bn

Over 500g to 1kg $3.1bn

Over 1kg to 2kg $6.3bn

EUROPE - POSTCARDS

$800m each

EUROPE - Mail for the Blind

FREE

==============================

Rest of the World - LETTERS

Up to 20g $1.4bn

Over 20g to 100g $3.1bn

Over 100g to 250g $4.7bn

Over 250g to 500g $7bn

Over 500g to 1kg $9.3bn

Over 1kg to 2kg $17.4bn

Rest of the World - PRINTED MATTER

Up to 20g $1.1bn

Over 20g to 100g $2.4bn

Over 100g to 250g $3.7bn

Over 250g to 500g $5.2bn

Over 500g to 1kg $6.6bn

Over 1kg to 2kg $13.1bn

Rest of the World - POSTCARDS

$1.4bn each

Rest of the World - Mail for the Blind

FREE

==============================

(Airmail Rates to Follow)

Blair (2008 June 19)



AIRMAIL RATES (postcards + aerogrammes)
-------------------------

Zone Postcard Aerogramme
------ --------------
---------------------

AFRICA $1.0bn each $800m each

EUROPE $1.4bn each $1.1bn each

REST of WORLD $1.8bn each $1.4bn each

====================================

AIRMAIL RATES (letters and printed matter)
-------------------------

Zone Letter Printed
Matter +
Mail
for the Blind
------------ -------------------------
---------------------------
AFRICA Up to10g $1.0bn Up to 10g $800m

Over10g to 50g $1.2bn Over 10g to 50g
$1.0bn

Over 50g to100g $1.5bn Over 50g to 100g
$1.3bn

Over 100g to 250g $2.1bn Over 100g to 250g
$1.6bn

Over 250g to 500g $3.8bn Over 250g to 500g
$2.6bn

Over 500g to 1kg $7.7bn Over 500g to 1kg
$5.4bn

Over 1kg to 2kg $13.8bn Over 1kg to 2kg
$9.8bn


EUROPE Up to10g $1.4bn Up to 10g $1.1bn

Over10g to 50g $2.1bn Over 10g to 50g
$1.5bn

Over 50g to100g $3.5bn Over 50g to 100g
$2.3bn

Over 100g to 250g $4.7bn Over 100g to 250g
$3.0bn

Over 250g to 500g $8.8bn Over 250g to 500g
$5.5bn

Over 500g to 1kg $17.7bn Over 500g to 1kg
$11.0bn

Over 1kg to 2kg $33.0bn Over 1kg to 2kg
$20.0bn


Rest of World Up to10g $1.8bn Up to 10g $1.4bn

Over10g to 50g $2.7bn Over 10g to 50g $2.1bn

Over 50g to100g $3.5bn Over 50g to 100g
$2.6bn

Over 100g to 250g $7.0bn Over 100g to 250g
$5.2bn

Over 250g to 500g $9.6bn Over 250g to 500g
$7,5bn

Over 500g to 1kg $18.5bn Over 500g to 1kg
$13.7bn

Over 1kg to 2kg $36.5bn Over 1kg to 2kg
$27.8bn

================================================== =====


Blair
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Old June 20th 08, 05:25 PM posted to rec.collecting.stamps.discuss
Tony Clayton[_2_]
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Default (RCSD) Hyperinflation getting worse in Zimbabwe

In a recent message Joshua McGee wrote:

On Thu, 19 Jun 2008 08:04:39 -0700, Blair (TC) wrote:

(The official bank rate trails the parallel market by about one week.)


Is there anyone, then, making a killing shorting Zim dollars on the forex
market? Unfortunately, with this precarious a situation in Zimbabwe,
"making a killing" may not be simple slang....


Sadly not. The wife of the Mayor of Harare was found killed after her recent
kidnapping. There is talk of invoking the Hague War Crimes Tribunal.

The problem is that there has been too much talk without action, and in some
quarters (esp. S. Africa) a deadly hush.

--
Tony Clayton
Coins of the UK :
http://www.coins-of-the-uk.co.uk
Sent using RISCOS on an Acorn Strong Arm RiscPC
.... Documentation is for people who can't read.
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Old June 20th 08, 06:18 PM posted to rec.collecting.stamps.discuss
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Default (RCSD) Hyperinflation getting worse in Zimbabwe

On Fri, 20 Jun 2008 17:25:36 +0100, Tony Clayton
wrote:

In a recent message Joshua McGee wrote:

On Thu, 19 Jun 2008 08:04:39 -0700, Blair (TC) wrote:

(The official bank rate trails the parallel market by about one week.)


Is there anyone, then, making a killing shorting Zim dollars on the forex
market? Unfortunately, with this precarious a situation in Zimbabwe,
"making a killing" may not be simple slang....


Sadly not. The wife of the Mayor of Harare was found killed after her recent
kidnapping. There is talk of invoking the Hague War Crimes Tribunal.

The problem is that there has been too much talk without action, and in some
quarters (esp. S. Africa) a deadly hush.


Actually, who could blame them, especially with all of the racial
tension down there regarding kicking out the "white man" and so forth
from farms. South Africa has had its share of controversy.

What truly stinks is that the "white man" has been the prime ignition
of most of these scenarios - directly, as in colonization - or
indirectly, because the indigenous folk aren't as dumb as some make
them out to be.

The can of worms is now further open for debate.
  #7  
Old June 20th 08, 09:39 PM posted to rec.collecting.stamps.discuss
Ralphael1
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Default (RCSD) Hyperinflation getting worse in Zimbabwe

On Jun 20, 1:18*pm, wrote:
On Fri, 20 Jun 2008 17:25:36 +0100, Tony Clayton





wrote:
In a recent message Joshua McGee wrote:


On Thu, 19 Jun 2008 08:04:39 -0700, Blair (TC) wrote:


(The official bank rate trails the parallel market by about one week..)


Is there anyone, then, making a killing shorting Zim dollars on the forex
market? *Unfortunately, with this precarious a situation in Zimbabwe,
"making a killing" may not be simple slang....


Sadly not. *The wife of the Mayor of Harare was found killed after her recent
kidnapping. *There is talk of invoking the Hague War Crimes Tribunal.


The problem is that there has been too much talk without action, and in some
quarters (esp. S. Africa) a deadly hush.


Actually, who could blame them, especially with all of the racial
tension down there regarding kicking out the "white man" and so forth
from farms. *South Africa has had its share of controversy.

What truly stinks is that the "white man" has been the prime ignition
of most of these scenarios - directly, as in colonization - or
indirectly, because the indigenous folk aren't as dumb as some make
them out to be.

The can of worms is now further open for debate.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -


I know very little about the Zimbabe way of life but would like to
know why the economy has turned to crap after the white man left. 17bn
for one US dollar is unbeliveable.

Ralphael, the OLD one
  #8  
Old June 20th 08, 11:27 PM posted to rec.collecting.stamps.discuss
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Default (RCSD) Hyperinflation getting worse in Zimbabwe

On Fri, 20 Jun 2008 13:39:45 -0700 (PDT), Ralphael1
wrote:

On Jun 20, 1:18*pm, wrote:
On Fri, 20 Jun 2008 17:25:36 +0100, Tony Clayton





wrote:
In a recent message Joshua McGee wrote:


On Thu, 19 Jun 2008 08:04:39 -0700, Blair (TC) wrote:


(The official bank rate trails the parallel market by about one week.)


Is there anyone, then, making a killing shorting Zim dollars on the forex
market? *Unfortunately, with this precarious a situation in Zimbabwe,
"making a killing" may not be simple slang....


Sadly not. *The wife of the Mayor of Harare was found killed after her recent
kidnapping. *There is talk of invoking the Hague War Crimes Tribunal.


The problem is that there has been too much talk without action, and in some
quarters (esp. S. Africa) a deadly hush.


Actually, who could blame them, especially with all of the racial
tension down there regarding kicking out the "white man" and so forth
from farms. *South Africa has had its share of controversy.

What truly stinks is that the "white man" has been the prime ignition
of most of these scenarios - directly, as in colonization - or
indirectly, because the indigenous folk aren't as dumb as some make
them out to be.

The can of worms is now further open for debate.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -


I know very little about the Zimbabe way of life but would like to
know why the economy has turned to crap after the white man left. 17bn
for one US dollar is unbeliveable.


Some critics believe that Mugabe's land reforms are one of the
underlying causes of the inflation. There are many troubles for this
country and HIV is a big contender.

Although I don't have all the "facts", klepotocratic nations sometimes
wind up in the crapper, such as Congo / Zaire had done in the past
under Mobutu. Not really too much better for the common Congolese
today. I can only - maybe not - imagine what living like this is for
the common man.

All I can say is this: when the colonial masters left or were tossed
out, the remaining folk had a lot of work to do with sometimes no
infrastructure. When you try to raise a house up on a shaky
foundation, you don't get a mansion.

Plenty of info out there for all to read about this and other African
mismanagement, especially the constant need for the IMF and World Bank
to bail these countries out of the muck and mire when concessionaires
are still raping the countries. It's a no win situation for the
indigenous peoples of Africa.

My .02 political cents, which wouldn't even register on a Zimbabwe
abacus.
  #9  
Old June 21st 08, 04:30 PM posted to rec.collecting.stamps.discuss
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Default (RCSD) Hyperinflation getting worse in Zimbabwe

On Sat, 21 Jun 2008 08:15:15 -0700, Sir F. A. Rien
wrote:

found these unused words:

On Fri, 20 Jun 2008 13:39:45 -0700 (PDT), Ralphael1
wrote:

On Jun 20, 1:18*pm, wrote:
On Fri, 20 Jun 2008 17:25:36 +0100, Tony Clayton





wrote:
In a recent message Joshua McGee wrote:

On Thu, 19 Jun 2008 08:04:39 -0700, Blair (TC) wrote:

(The official bank rate trails the parallel market by about one week.)

Is there anyone, then, making a killing shorting Zim dollars on the forex
market? *Unfortunately, with this precarious a situation in Zimbabwe,
"making a killing" may not be simple slang....

Sadly not. *The wife of the Mayor of Harare was found killed after her recent
kidnapping. *There is talk of invoking the Hague War Crimes Tribunal.

The problem is that there has been too much talk without action, and in some
quarters (esp. S. Africa) a deadly hush.

Actually, who could blame them, especially with all of the racial
tension down there regarding kicking out the "white man" and so forth
from farms. *South Africa has had its share of controversy.

What truly stinks is that the "white man" has been the prime ignition
of most of these scenarios - directly, as in colonization - or
indirectly, because the indigenous folk aren't as dumb as some make
them out to be.

The can of worms is now further open for debate.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

I know very little about the Zimbabe way of life but would like to
know why the economy has turned to crap after the white man left. 17bn
for one US dollar is unbeliveable.


Some critics believe that Mugabe's land reforms are one of the
underlying causes of the inflation. There are many troubles for this
country and HIV is a big contender.

Although I don't have all the "facts", klepotocratic nations sometimes
wind up in the crapper, such as Congo / Zaire had done in the past
under Mobutu. Not really too much better for the common Congolese
today. I can only - maybe not - imagine what living like this is for
the common man.

All I can say is this: when the colonial masters left or were tossed
out, the remaining folk had a lot of work to do with sometimes no
infrastructure. When you try to raise a house up on a shaky
foundation, you don't get a mansion.

Plenty of info out there for all to read about this and other African
mismanagement, especially the constant need for the IMF and World Bank
to bail these countries out of the muck and mire when concessionaires
are still raping the countries. It's a no win situation for the
indigenous peoples of Africa.

My .02 political cents, which wouldn't even register on a Zimbabwe
abacus.


Most of Africa has been a history of tribal warfare and slavery [black on
black, arab on black - whites were the 'end users']. Only the despised
"white man" brought some order to some places. But all things being equal,
they never change. Once each 'country' settles, then there'll be border
fighting and then ...!

Don't forget the wonderful Russian influence over many years teaching them
about rebellion!


Yes, yes. The Cold War tactics, especially in the Congo. They could
just about taste that sumptuous morsel but didn't get a chance to do
so. The rebellions in Angola and Mozambique ring up the "reds".
Bottom line in most of these escapades is a "white man" in the mix,
which makes the indigenous peoples of Africa "his burden".

Tribal warfare was tribal warfare and nothing near as the war - yes
war - of 1997. Zimbabwe sent in troops to the Congo, as well as
Angola and Uganda, to name a few. Close to 5 million people died as a
direct or indirect result of that "tribal feud". What did the white
man do? Set up resettlement camps for the Interahamwe and other rebel
groups to raise hell. This is, of course after pillaging Katanga for
how many years?

I used to turn an eye from this area but have focused much more keenly
- still not on top of it - than ever before. Stamp collecting has
afforded me a way to travel there and not actually go. To be honest,
if the strife weren't soooo bad there, I'd think about volunteering
services to teach the Congolese about computers and IT. I'd have to
hone up mon français and maybe a little Lingala, but why not?

Knowledge is power. Power is what they didn't have. White man gone,
power returned. Learned power games from white man. Use power games.
Usually fail with power games, because the ties to the rest of the
world are quite finite and slight. Learn a lesson? Not often, but
some bright shining stars have appeared. Far too many times these
stars were snuffed before they truly had a chance to shine.
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Old June 21st 08, 07:20 PM posted to rec.collecting.stamps.discuss
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Default (RCSD) Hyperinflation getting worse in Zimbabwe

On Sat, 21 Jun 2008 10:41:32 -0700, Sir F. A. Rien
wrote:

found these unused words:

Tribal warfare was tribal warfare and nothing near as the war - yes
war - of 1997.


Tell that to the tribe that was mostly wiped out and the rest enslaved by
the 'neighboring' tribe.


Yes, but there's a difference between a tribe and 5 million people.
Usually a tribe isn't that big. Well, Rodney may have some clan down
under we do not know of yet.

Learn a lesson? Not often, but
some bright shining stars have appeared. Far too many times these
stars were snuffed before they truly had a chance to shine.


It will remain so as long as the current 'power' can keep the populace
servile and unable to obtain means for peaceful governing. One clique will
replace another, but never for the general people's benefit!


That is what they learned from their colonizers.
 




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