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Old September 18th 09, 03:44 PM posted to rec.collecting.stamps.discuss
rodney
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I have an official (opt on c g s )
SG Type 26
Maharaja Sri Kerala Varma 1 1943 red-brown
6 pies

Top of the stamp is SURCHARGED
bottom is NINE PIES

According to my SG spec, this stamp does not appear to exist.
Any ideas?


I also have
SG0056 (1933) T0018 06p maharaja srv3 [0m1] red File265.jpg
in RED not red brown (it looks like recess)
any ideas there?

Thanks



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Old September 18th 09, 03:55 PM posted to rec.collecting.stamps.discuss
rodney
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Got it, SGO78
I do NOT like the Gibbons format on occaisions.

"rodney"
I have an official (opt on c g s )
SG Type 26
Maharaja Sri Kerala Varma 1 1943 red-brown
6 pies

Top of the stamp is SURCHARGED
bottom is NINE PIES



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Old September 18th 09, 09:22 PM posted to rec.collecting.stamps.discuss
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On 18 Sep, 16:44, "rodney" pookiethai@NOSPAM iprimus.com.au wrote:

I also have
SG0056 (1933) T0018 06p maharaja srv3 [0m1] red File265.jpg
in RED not red brown (it looks like recess)
any ideas there?


The 2p, 4p, 6p, 1a, and 2.5a of the 1933 recess series were reprinted
lithographed in 1938, as SG 67-71, perf 13x13.5. The colours names are
the same, but I guess shade differences are plausible. The 1938 set
came perfed 11 or 13x13.5 (SG67b etc.) CV of 6p 13x13.5 in 2000
Commonwealth is £2250 used, not known mint. Inverted watermark
versions of the 2p-1a p11 stamps are listed (67aw etc.) but no prices
given, aka "world cruise".

Chris
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Old September 18th 09, 11:08 PM posted to rec.collecting.stamps.discuss
rodney
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Default Cochin queries.

Cheers Chris,
too much of a "shade" variation for mine,
but I stand open to correction.
http://cjoint.com/data/jtadgjxkGJ.htm

I figure it is recess, there is an ever so slight flattening out of the
Cochin State script (bottom 2nd from RHS character)

Yellowing of the paper in the Litho examples may add to the change.
Thanks again.
Rodney


I also have
SG0056 (1933) T0018 06p maharaja srv3 [0m1] red File265.jpg
in RED not red brown (it looks like recess)
any ideas there?


The 2p, 4p, 6p, 1a, and 2.5a of the 1933 recess series were reprinted
lithographed in 1938, as SG 67-71, perf 13x13.5. The colours names are
the same, but I guess shade differences are plausible. The 1938 set
came perfed 11 or 13x13.5 (SG67b etc.) CV of 6p 13x13.5 in 2000
Commonwealth is £2250 used, not known mint. Inverted watermark
versions of the 2p-1a p11 stamps are listed (67aw etc.) but no prices
given, aka "world cruise".

Chris


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Old September 19th 09, 10:51 AM posted to rec.collecting.stamps.discuss
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Default Cochin queries.

Rodney, here

http://i251.photobucket.com/albums/g...nasService.jpg

are examples of, reading left to right, the litho printed SG O56a and
SG O52, and the recess printed SG O44 (Warning: largish file -
scanned at 1200 dpi so that the distinguishing features are
distinguishable)

The printings from the late '30s into the Wartime period aren't
especially easy to follow, but as Chris pointed out, there are some
rarities lurking in there to make the effort all worthwhile. All
brought about by the unfortunate mortality among the Cochin Maharajas
and a commendable desire to waste not, want not.

The small umbrella of the watermark is particularly hard to make out
in these late litho printings, but ... the paper is thinner, smoother
and whiter than the sheet watermark paper. With a little practice,
you'll easily distinguish them, without needing to reach for the
Ronsonol.

I hope this marks a move away from your, forgive me but as a friend I
feel I need to point it out, unhealthy obsession with that other
Malayalam State ...

Tony
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Old September 19th 09, 02:19 PM posted to rec.collecting.stamps.discuss
rodney
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"Asia-translation"
are examples of, reading left to right, the litho printed SG O56a


56a! Are you having a lend of me?

SG O52, Perf 11 sticks out rather.



and the recess printed SG O44


if the surcharge on this stamp is (typo)
how were the others printed?
Can you explain "blanket offsets"?
SG could do a lot better you know, too much is assumed
and for the student, can be bloody frustrating.

I'll be around on Monday, I have a Thai Cultural Society "food fair" on the morrow,
I am employed as duty "slave" and "heavy lifter" aka "dogsbody"










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Old September 20th 09, 06:09 AM posted to rec.collecting.stamps.discuss
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On Sep 19, 9:19*am, "rodney" pookiethai@NOSPAM iprimus.com.au wrote:

Can you explain "blanket offsets"?
SG could do a lot better you know, too much is assumed
and for the student, can be bloody frustrating.


The offset blanket (aka printing blanket) is a rubber sheet used
on offset presses to transfer the impression from the plate to paper.

Blanket offset is the process that uses such a blanket.
Its basically offset printing.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Offset_printing

Blair

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Old September 20th 09, 08:00 AM posted to rec.collecting.stamps.discuss
rodney
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No "on the road to Damascus" change, for this little black duck, Tony
I fail to see how one can improve on perfection
I do think I read once, the Maharaja of Travancore did have a summer palace
in Cochin.

"Asia-translation"
I hope this marks a move away from your, forgive me but as a friend I
feel I need to point it out, unhealthy obsession with that other
Malayalam State ...
Tony



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Old September 22nd 09, 10:00 AM posted to rec.collecting.stamps.discuss
rodney
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Thank you Blair,
I was always curious as to why offset printing was popular,
now I understand.
My original query dealt with Cochin "double prints"
http://cjoint.com/data/jwk5lZXGm0.htm

I can only guess that these issues were intentionally printed
blanket offset, or there was a mistake in the process and they just
refer to them as such.
rodney



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On Sep 19, 9:19 am, "rodney" pookiethai@NOSPAM iprimus.com.au wrote:

Can you explain "blanket offsets"?
SG could do a lot better you know, too much is assumed
and for the student, can be bloody frustrating.


The offset blanket (aka printing blanket) is a rubber sheet used
on offset presses to transfer the impression from the plate to paper.

Blanket offset is the process that uses such a blanket.
Its basically offset printing.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Offset_printing

Blair


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Old September 22nd 09, 04:36 PM posted to rec.collecting.stamps.discuss
Blair[_2_]
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Default Cochin queries.

On Sep 22, 5:00*am, "rodney" pookiethai@NOSPAM iprimus.com.au wrote:
Thank you Blair,
I was always curious as to why offset printing was popular,
now I understand.
My original query dealt with Cochin "double prints"http://cjoint.com/data/jwk5lZXGm0.htm

I can only guess that these issues were intentionally printed
blanket offset, or there was a mistake in the process and they just
refer to them as such.
rodney


If I understand the question properly,
I think that to simplify matters,
it could be referred to as lithographic
printing versus offset printing.

Blair
 




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