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Wollensak 8080
Today's auction of a Wollensak 8080 (an 8075 with quad playback
option) sold for $73... http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...8534 342&rd=1 ....thus proving once more than Charles Nouilles (the french frauder), aka Chuckie Noodles, aka 66fourdoorrustbucket, aka NudoFraud, doesn't know his ass from a mudhole. Eat **** and die, Noodles! dB |
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DeserTBoB wrote: Today's auction of a Wollensak 8080 (an 8075 with quad playback option) sold for $73... http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...8534 342&rd=1 ...thus proving once more than Charles Nouilles (the french frauder), aka Chuckie Noodles, aka 66fourdoorrustbucket, aka NudoFraud, doesn't know his ass from a mudhole. Eat **** and die, Noodles! dB http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...e=STRK:MEWA:IT http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...e=STRK:MEWA:IT GEE whiz DB, how come these AKAI 80D-SS tape decks go for twice as much as your Wollensuk brand ??? Could it be the AKAI has a huge AC motor in it yielding ZERO wow/flutter ?? Or just the basic superior overall design of the AKai ?? or all of the above ?? HAHAHAHA now let's all watch as DB backpeddles in typical liberal democrate fashion with a littany of "if's" "but's" and a tapestry of profanity... those are the facts DB, Akai value beats Wollensak hands down, at least 2 to 1, and during the summer, you can get Wollies for $10... Wollensak's SUCK |
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On Thu, 23 Dec 2004 12:28:03 -0500, 8 tracker from hell
wrote: wrote: GEE whiz DB, how come these AKAI 80D-SS tape decks go for twice as much as your Wollensuk brand ??? snip I dunno, Noodles, especially seeing how hard it is to keep the damned things running. hey stupid ****, the only reason it went so cheap was because of the time it was posted. the auction ended at a odd time of day. the wallensaks bring more than the akais any day, but your too stupid to realize that. snip I'm not so sure about that, either. Of course, marketing an auction with the right description and at the right time means a lot when trying to attract clueless bidders with more money than sense. I've seen 8075s go anywhere from $5 to $75, and Akais bringing a bit more on the bottom end...usually, but not always. That quad playback 8080 went for $73, so I'd consider Noodles' assessment, like all of his idiotic comments, to be baseless. Could it be the AKAI has a huge AC motor in it yielding ZERO wow/flutter ?? again, your stupidity shines through. AC motors do have problems with wow & flutter, mainly due to power line variations. snip Actually, the power grid's frequency stability is 2E10-8 long term, so frequency's not really a problem. Voltage dips while the deck's motor is under heavy load COULD be a problem, certainly. The problem with an AC motored tape transport is the same, whether it's some 8 track toy like these or on my Ampexes...inflexibility of speed control. The Wollensak uses a tachyservo circuit to do two things: stabilize motor shaft speed at a preset value, and change the current to maintain that speed when facing different loads, which is most certainly a problem with 8 tracks. An oversized AC motor just turns at the same speed regardless of load until overload is reached and loss of synchronicity occurs, at which point winding overheating quickly takes place. However, the problem is that you can't get the RIGHT speed except in a very rare set of circumstances...the exact "right" belt, the exact "right" load, and so on. I'm aware that cheating takes places by using thicker or thinner belts, shimming of drive sheaves, etc., but these are inelegant fixes at best. Since I possess the curse of perfect pitch, a tape deck that's off speed drives me nuts, as do groups and performers who are mistuned, either deliberately or through incompetence. Kenny G, the much maligned (rightfully so) flugelhorn noodler, purposely tunes his axe as much as 20 cents SHARP all the time to make his solos stand out to insensitive ears. Hearing him crank out that elevator music he does is like fingernails on a chalkboard to me, especially when his accompaniment is on pitch, which they usually are. Contemporary symphony orchestras are every bit as guilty also, with many of them tuning up to A=460 (damned near a half step sharp!!!) in an attempt to keep jaded ears of fat corporate jerkoffs in the founder's circle "entertained," while musicianly types in the loges cringe. Dallas' symphony is the worst at this, but the LA Philharmonic under Salonen's direction is almost as bad. During the inaugural concert series at Disney Hall in LA, I estimated that the LA Phil had tuned up to A=455 at least, which gave me fits all night. I never know what key the average bar band is playing in, because most of them don't know how to tune up, anyway. I digress, as usual, but given a choice, having my tape pass the heads at exactly 15.00 (or 7.500 or 3.750 or 1.87500) IPS is not an option, but a necessity. It's also a necessity when doing professional studio work between various machines. Restoration and transcription of many of the earliest taped performances is problematic, since they were mastered on Ampex 300s, notoriously sloppy about speed accuracy as they were (and are.) On later Ampexes (350 and on) using direct drive sychronous AC capstan motors, good engineering ensured proper tape speed unless the capstan is worn enough to bring tape speed down, which is then corrected by capstan resurfacing. DC servo capstans in pro machines are great as they allow for speed correction of an improperly recorded master...as long as the owner of the machine keeps the servo properly calibrated, which is the same issue as on the Wollensak DC motored decks. On consumer grade AC powered decks, even reel-to-reel, I've noticed that speed accuracy is NEVER good, due to a multitude of reasons which vary from model to model. As I said, even the vaunted Ampex 300 was horrid at maintaining correct speed due to its indirect drive. So, given the choice, I'll go for DC servo control on a consumer deck, as I have the proper alignment tape (NOT a "NudoFraud® Industries" special, which is the biggest of Noodles' Ebay frauds) with which to set standard speed. The easier (and less equipment dependent) way to set proper speed is just to make a timing cart, which I made out of a 41 minute pre-recorded cart simply by cutting it to exactly 187.5' using a Hikari Seiki tape counter (you, of course, can use a ruler and a lot of time). Exactly 10 minutes between track changes, the deck's right on speed. superier design? HA! like the irreplaceable IC chip in the preamp stage that commonly fails & there is no replacement available anymore. like the oversize drive belt which is also unavailable. snip The more I see of these Akais, the less I like them. I also notice they're somewhat deficient in deep bass by their own published specifications, as are most 8 track machines. Since most pop music doesn't contain any deep bass to speak of with very rare exceptions, it's not a problem on that genre. By "deep," I mean the region from 20 to 60 cycles. Most gee-tawr basses never get below 82 Hz on their fundamental on the open E string anyway, and there's precious little of that to begin with. Even orchestral music rarely gets any significant power in that area unless the contrabasses are at their lowest note and the timpanis are roaring. This area's basically the province of the pipe organ and electronic sound sources, as well as nature recordings of thunder...hardly the kind of fare you'll kind in the average 8 track in a car! My testing shows conclusively that the Wollensak 8075 (not necessarily the 8056 and other lower models with the 775 head) can get down to at least 30 Hz with no effort on record or playback, and to 25 on the alignment tape almost flat, once you correct for "fringing effect" of running a full track tape. now let's all watch as DB backpeddles in typical liberal democrate fashion with a littany of "if's" "but's" and a tapestry of profanity... snip If Noodles is bored but lonely, Noodles lets his dog lick his ass...film at 11. Happy now? those are the facts DB, Akai value beats Wollensak hands down snip Noodles needs a hand UP...his ASS! NudoFraud, your so full of ****, i dont know how you could still be living. like i said earlier, you aught to shoot yourself. you are so stupid, you dont realise that you dont have any dignity left. Unintelligent people like Noodles don't know when they're finished, and Noodles has been finished for quite some time. Another NudoFraud®: He states his "$5-motor-for-$10" can motors are replacements for Wollensaks, and they certainly are NOT, further showing that Noodles is completely ignorant on the subject. They also will not fit many of the other models he claims they will...typical fraud by Noodles. dB |
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Geez, dB, my old piano would have driven you nuts. My tuner (who also had
perfect pitch) tuned it to 435 because the strings were so old he was afraid they'd snap. A few did anyway. Most gee-tawr basses never get below 82 Hz on their fundamental on the open E string anyway, Open E on an electric bass is around 41 Hz. However, down there it's competing in recordings with the kick drum, so engineers often cut that part of the electric bass's frequency range and focus on the harmonics and midrange. Done right, it gives the illusion of a lower note without fighting the kick (and has the advantage of standing out better in car speakers). --Bob Farace "I only believe in fire." --Anais Nin |
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(lotsa snips below)...
Kenny G, the much maligned (rightfully so) flugelhorn noodler, purposely tunes his axe as much as 20 cents SHARP all the time to make his solos stand out to insensitive ears. Hey, those solos stand out to sensitive ears also--just not in a good way. that elevator music he does is like fingernails on a chalkboard to me, especially when his accompaniment is on pitch, which they usually are. What about music by Harry Partch, Terry Riley, or Glenn Branca? I never know what key the average bar band is playing in, because most of them don't know how to tune up, anyway. Hey now, I tune my ebg before every gig, whether it needs it or not g! I sympathize with you on the perfect pitch. Relative pitch is so much more useful. later, ron |
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I can usually
set the tuning at C or E or A by ear and usually be within a few cents, which is pretty damned good. Extraordinary, really. For temperament, though, I still have to count and time beats. dB How does listening to non-tempered stuff, such as Switched-On Bach, affect you? later, ron |
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On 24 Dec 2004 03:40:57 GMT, (Yodedude2) wrote:
Extraordinary, really. snip Trust me...it's a curse. dB |
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