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Frank the Spammer has been NARUed!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Arrogant ebay *indeed*!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! http://cgi2.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAP...rid=frankcoins link I have been the victim of newsgroup smear campaigns for several years. Just another tactic by the Frank-haters. -- RARE COIN AUCTIONS NO MINIMUMS http://www.frankcoins.com Ebay Powerseller FRANKCOINS Texas Auction License 11259 Board member of Texas Coin Dealers Association, Fort Worth Coin Club. Member: Texas Numismatic Assoc, American Numismatic Assoc. "a. linklurker" wrote in message news:aYbnb.41215$Fm2.17344@attbi_s04... |
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Frank Provasek wrote:
LOL Arrogant ebay *indeed*!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! http://cgi2.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAP...rid=frankcoins I have been the victim of newsgroup smear campaigns for several years. Just another tactic by the Frank-haters. Sorry to hear it, Frank. I've disagreed with you on many issues, but interfering with one's business is abhorrent. I hope you take appropriate legal action in this regard. -- Bob |
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Frank Provasek wrote:
I have been the victim of newsgroup smear campaigns for several years. Just another tactic by the Frank-haters. It's always someone else's fault, isn't it. But I recently asked two questions you have yet to answer: 1. Why are you arguing for your spam policy in newsgroups? What do you expect to accomplish? 2. What was the NARU for? If for spamming, several of us did try to warn you. It is not the newsgroup readership you need to persuade - it is eBay. -- Regards, PO Box 248 Bob Niland Enterprise Kansas USA which, due to spam, is: 67441-0248 email4rjn AT yahoo DOT com http://www.access-one.com/rjn Unless otherwise specifically stated, expressing personal opinions and NOT speaking for any employer, client or Internet Service Provider. |
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In article , "Frank
Provasek" writes: I have been the victim of newsgroup smear campaigns for several years. Just another tactic by the Frank-haters. Ah, Frank, but you must admit, you've been a "willing victim", more than once setting yourself up for a fall. Sometimes you just hafta learn to shut up...;-) There are those who take great pleasure in their envy motivated vigilante activities. It's the only life some of them have and most of us don't have the time to fight someone who has nothing else to do except narc and run. They are the miserable ones and they love to have someone to share it with. You appear to advertise yourself heavily to those sad cases and they do what they always do...bring everyone they can to their level. Market your customers and leave the tattle tales alone. dondi3 DONDI enterprises. BUY, SELL, TRADE. RARE COINS & PRECIOUS METALS Member COINNET, CSNS, ANA, INA, MOON, ILNA. |
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"Bob Niland" wrote in message
news Frank Provasek wrote: I have been the victim of newsgroup smear campaigns for several years. Just another tactic by the Frank-haters. It's always someone else's fault, isn't it. But I recently asked two questions you have yet to answer: 1. Why are you arguing for your spam policy in newsgroups? What do you expect to accomplish? I was arguing against ebay's right to claim our customers as their own, and their efforts to prohibit contact with customers I have had for years just because we are both registered with ebay. These are serious issues for independent businesses. 2. What was the NARU for? If for spamming, several of us did try to warn you. It is not the newsgroup readership you need to persuade - it is eBay. No, it was not for spamming. |
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On Mon, 27 Oct 2003 19:35:12 GMT, "Frank Provasek"
wrote: I have been the victim of newsgroup smear campaigns for several years. Just another tactic by the Frank-haters. Do you know why you were NARUed? (Does eBay tell you?) What I do know is that there are some very hateful people in this newsgroup who, according to all appearances, would resort to just about anything. Someone else in this thread said this is the only life they have, and there's truth to this, I believe. Usenet gives angry people a way to vent, to strike out, and a small minority do so, often viciously, trying to hurt others in ways that have nothing to do with the purpose of this newsgroup, the discussion and debating of coins, trying to interfere with their professional and personal lives and calling them names because of the sexual orientation. This of course isn't unique to this particular newsgroup. -- Email me at (delete "remove this") Coin Collecting: Consumer Guide: http://rg.ancients.info/guide Glomming: Coin Connoisseurship: http://rg.ancients.info/glom Bogos: Counterfeit Coins: http://rg.ancients.info/bogos |
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"a. linklurker" wrote in message
news:52gnb.44005$e01.102429@attbi_s02... "Frank Provasek" wrote "Bob Niland" wrote Frank Provasek admitted: I have been the perp of newsgroup spam campaigns for several years. I have never sent spam. Period. Never. Isn't that cute for you to change the text of my quote. I said I have been the victim of newsgroup smear campaigns for several years. If you don't believe some of horrible untrue things that have been publicly posted to ruin my reputation, just check google. I won't bring them up again. |
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"Bob Niland" wrote
Frank Provasek wrote: 1. Why are you arguing for your spam policy in newsgroups? What do you expect to accomplish? I was arguing against ebay's right to claim our customers as their own, and their efforts to prohibit contact with customers I have had for years just because we are both registered with ebay. These are serious issues ... That still doesn't answer the question. I could read between the lines and presume that you are trying to get other eBay'ers to support some sort of petition or revolt, but if so, you need to say so. The cliche goes: "the meaning of your communication is in the response that you get" Based on the responses, most people see you as just an evangelist for spam. Unless you change your message, you are not going to change the responses. I have been the victim of newsgroup smear campaigns for several years. And why would anyone go to the trouble? This comes across as paranoid, unless: * the smears come from a small number of unhappy former customers, or * your continuing advocacy of an easily misunderstood message makes people think you are a spammer - and a large number of internet users do indeed love to hunt and harrass spammers [real and imagined]. Commercial email is fraught with an increasing amount of risk. It needs to be explicitly OPT-IN, and the sender needs to permanently keep a record of the original opt-in transaction. Even so, lazy Yahoo users, for example, will still check[*] This Is Spam rather than opting back out, and you'll soon find all your email to yahoo going to Bulk. -- Regards, PO Box 248 Bob Niland Enterprise Kansas USA which, due to spam, is: 67441-0248 email4rjn AT yahoo DOT com http://www.access-one.com/rjn Unless otherwise specifically stated, expressing personal opinions and NOT speaking for any employer, client or Internet Service Provider. |
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"Frank Provasek" wrote in message .com... "Bob Niland" wrote in message news Frank Provasek wrote: I have been the victim of newsgroup smear campaigns for several years. Just another tactic by the Frank-haters. It's always someone else's fault, isn't it. But I recently asked two questions you have yet to answer: 1. Why are you arguing for your spam policy in newsgroups? What do you expect to accomplish? I was arguing against ebay's right to claim our customers as their own, and their efforts to prohibit contact with customers I have had for years just because we are both registered with ebay. These are serious issues for independent businesses. If you had these customers for years then you should have their e-mail address to do "off eBay" transactions. It kinda makes your argument moot. Oh, once I complete an eBay transaction with a customer I continue to do off eBay transactions with them since I have their e-mail address, provided the customer wants to do so. I don't spam them and tell them what inventory I have, unless they specifically request that I do so. They are more than welcome to e-mail me and ask if I have a particular item. Don't spam. Rita |
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Frank Provasek wrote:
snip If you don't believe some of horrible untrue things that have been publicly posted to ruin my reputation, just check google. I won't bring them up again. I've seen some of them posted in AMOE. I must admit I always felt sorry for you when they were posted to this group from time to time, although I think most people simply ignored them, recognizing them for what they were. I doubt they had any negative effect on your reputation at all. I still think those posts were slanderous and despicable, but over your past few months sojourn in this group, it's gotten harder and harder to feel too much sympathy for you. |
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