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Unwanted stamps become valuable
Mette, about two years ago we had an exchange of postings about stamps that
were unwanted at one tine, then became valuable due to changed circumstances. I promised to post a URL to illustrate the stamps, but I had mislaid them, and now a I have found them. Here is a brief history of these stamps. Lebanon became fully independent of France in 1945, and it was starting to establish an army. Fiscal stamps were overprinted with a new design (Beit Eddine Palace), and in Arabic "Army Stamp", and revalued to 5 piasters. The "zero" is a five in Arabic. Look at the Normal stamp but without the double bars and the overprint at the top. The use of the stamp was obligatory on all letters, to all destinations. All the major catalogues did not list it. In 1948, the first Arab-Israeli war started and Lebanon was flooded with Palestinian refugees that were forced out by the Israelis or who fled the fighting. So the Army stamps were additionally surcharged with two bars, obliterating the "Army Stamp" words, and a new overprint reading "Palestine Stamp" was applied. Again, this stamp was required on all mail, and again the catalogues did not list them. The earliest Gibbons catalogue I have is Part 4, Overseas, 1974 edition, and most of these stamps are listed. Because these stamps were unlisted earlier, very few people paid attention to them. Many exist used, salvaged from envelopes. Mint are rare. Now the error. Look at the top overprinted line on both stamps in the URL listed below. In the normal stamp, the first Arabic letter is a "T". Note that Arabic is written from right to left. The error has the letter "SH" instead of the "T". In Arabic the "sh" sound has a specific letter. The correct overprint reads Tabe' Falastin, while the error reads Shabe' Falastin; shabe' has no meaning. The basic fiscal stamp with the Army Stamp overprint is listed as T289 in Gibbons and is not listed by Scotts. The stamp with the two overprints is listed as T363 in Gibbons and is not listed in Scotts, although Scott lists other stamps with similar overprints. The error occurs once in a sheet (probably 200 to a sheet, and since very few people saved them, it has become valuable Gibbons quotes the normal stamp at £1.40. The error is not listed in the catalogues that I know of. The URL may be truncated in this posting, and may not work directly. If so, it should be copied onto the search engine. http://mediaservice.photoisland.com/...7692941780.jpg Tony |
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"A.E. Gelat" skrev i en meddelelse
... Mette, about two years ago we had an exchange of postings about stamps that were unwanted at one tine, then became valuable due to changed circumstances. I promised to post a URL to illustrate the stamps, but I had mislaid them, and now a I have found them. Here is a brief history of these stamps. Lebanon became fully independent of France in 1945, and it was starting to establish an army. Fiscal stamps were overprinted with a new design (Beit Eddine Palace), and in Arabic "Army Stamp", and revalued to 5 piasters. The "zero" is a five in Arabic. Look at the Normal stamp but without the double bars and the overprint at the top. The use of the stamp was obligatory on all letters, to all destinations. All the major catalogues did not list it. In 1948, the first Arab-Israeli war started and Lebanon was flooded with Palestinian refugees that were forced out by the Israelis or who fled the fighting. So the Army stamps were additionally surcharged with two bars, obliterating the "Army Stamp" words, and a new overprint reading "Palestine Stamp" was applied. Again, this stamp was required on all mail, and again the catalogues did not list them. The earliest Gibbons catalogue I have is Part 4, Overseas, 1974 edition, and most of these stamps are listed. Because these stamps were unlisted earlier, very few people paid attention to them. Many exist used, salvaged from envelopes. Mint are rare. Now the error. Look at the top overprinted line on both stamps in the URL listed below. In the normal stamp, the first Arabic letter is a "T". Note that Arabic is written from right to left. The error has the letter "SH" instead of the "T". In Arabic the "sh" sound has a specific letter. The correct overprint reads Tabe' Falastin, while the error reads Shabe' Falastin; shabe' has no meaning. The basic fiscal stamp with the Army Stamp overprint is listed as T289 in Gibbons and is not listed by Scotts. The stamp with the two overprints is listed as T363 in Gibbons and is not listed in Scotts, although Scott lists other stamps with similar overprints. The error occurs once in a sheet (probably 200 to a sheet, and since very few people saved them, it has become valuable Gibbons quotes the normal stamp at £1.40. The error is not listed in the catalogues that I know of. The URL may be truncated in this posting, and may not work directly. If so, it should be copied onto the search engine. http://mediaservice.photoisland.com/...7692941780.jpg Tony, I do remember this exchange of postings, but have completely forgotten about the matter since that time, due to many other haps and mishaps. Thanks for remembering, and thanks a lot for sharing this info, which is quite valuable for my own collection of these items. :-) I have printed out your post to be sure not to lose it in another computer crash. -- Ann Mette Heindorff (Mette) http://www.heindorffhus.dk |
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"A.E. Gelat" wrote in message
... snip In 1948, the first Arab-Israeli war started and Lebanon was flooded with Palestinian refugees that were forced out by the Israelis or who fled the fighting. snip Tony There are different opinions on this subject. In 1973, Khaled al-'Azm, who served as Prime Minister of Syria in 1948 and 1949, published his memoirs in Beirut. He includes the following: We have brought destruction upon a million Arab refugees, by calling upon them and pleading with them to leave their lands, their homes, their work and their business, and we have caused them to be barren and unemployed though each one of them had been working and qualified in a trade from which he could make a living. In addition, we accustomed them to begging for hand-outs and to suffice with what little the UN organisation would allocate them. More on: http://www.palestinefacts.org/pf_ind...arabs_what.php or on: http://www.eretzyisroel.org/~peters/refugees2.html Victor Manta ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Philatelic Webmasters Organization: http://www.pwmo.org/ Art on Stamps: http://www.values.ch/ Romania by Stamps: http://www.marci-postale.com/ Communism on Stamps: http://www.values.ch/communism/ Spanish North Africa: http://www.values.ch/sna-site/ ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- |
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Victor, this is really a strange excerpt. I have not seen the book. Here
are the facts, from people who were in Palestine, not in Damascus. The strategy of Ben Gurion in 1948 was to accept the area that the UN had decided, then slowly work for more. This is ongoing at the present time, as demonstrated by Sharon's continuing land grabs, disregarding the agreement with Bush and making a monkey of him. After the 1947 UN vote, there were numerous aggressions on isolated Palestinian Arab villages, forcing the people flee. This culminated in the notorious massacre of most of the inhabitants of Deir Yasin, a small village near Jerusalem, and documented by the International Red Cross. Jaffa, an Arab town of 100,000, was surrounded by Tel Aviv and Jewish settlements. Water, food and electricity were cut off, but people were allowed to leave by sea and the single road to Jerusalem. 97,000 left, rather than starve. During the second phase of the 1948 war, a Jewish force led by then lieutenant Itzhak Rabin, took Lydda (now Lod) and Ramle, and gave the inhabitants 15 minutes to evacuate. They were forced to walk towards the east, to Ramallah and the surrounding villages. There were many similar incidents elsewhere. Finally, in late April 1948, Jewish cars equipped with loudspeakers drove through prestigious Talbiyyeh in Jerusalem, telling the Palestinians to leave, as they could not be guaranteed safety. Against the backdrop of the Deir Yasin massacre, the people left. In the last few years, Israeli historians, and some of the actors involved, have published details of these accounts, after having been denied for over forty years. Tony "Victor Manta" wrote in message ... "A.E. Gelat" wrote in message ... snip In 1948, the first Arab-Israeli war started and Lebanon was flooded with Palestinian refugees that were forced out by the Israelis or who fled the fighting. snip Tony There are different opinions on this subject. In 1973, Khaled al-'Azm, who served as Prime Minister of Syria in 1948 and 1949, published his memoirs in Beirut. He includes the following: We have brought destruction upon a million Arab refugees, by calling upon them and pleading with them to leave their lands, their homes, their work and their business, and we have caused them to be barren and unemployed though each one of them had been working and qualified in a trade from which he could make a living. In addition, we accustomed them to begging for hand-outs and to suffice with what little the UN organisation would allocate them. More on: http://www.palestinefacts.org/pf_ind...arabs_what.php or on: http://www.eretzyisroel.org/~peters/refugees2.html Victor Manta -------------------------------------------------------------------------- -- Philatelic Webmasters Organization: http://www.pwmo.org/ Art on Stamps: http://www.values.ch/ Romania by Stamps: http://www.marci-postale.com/ Communism on Stamps: http://www.values.ch/communism/ Spanish North Africa: http://www.values.ch/sna-site/ -------------------------------------------------------------------------- -- |
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"Victor Manta" wrote in message
... "A.E. Gelat" wrote in message ... snip In 1948, the first Arab-Israeli war started and Lebanon was flooded with Palestinian refugees that were forced out by the Israelis or who fled the fighting. snip Tony There are different opinions on this subject. In 1973, Khaled al-'Azm, who served as Prime Minister of Syria in 1948 and 1949, published his memoirs in Beirut. He includes the following: We have brought destruction upon a million Arab refugees, by calling upon them and pleading with them to leave their lands, their homes, their work and their business, and we have caused them to be barren and unemployed though each one of them had been working and qualified in a trade from which he could make a living. In addition, we accustomed them to begging for hand-outs and to suffice with what little the UN organisation would allocate them. More on: http://www.palestinefacts.org/pf_ind...arabs_what.php or on: http://www.eretzyisroel.org/~peters/refugees2.html Victor Manta "A.E. Gelat" wrote in message ... Victor, this is really a strange excerpt. I have not seen the book. Here are the facts, from people who were in Palestine, not in Damascus. snip Tony Tony, Strange enough indeed for some (especially because coming from an Arab leader), and thoughts provoking too... My only intention was to draw your attention on the fact that your opinion isn't the only one in town, even if it could be still wide spread. I hope that you will understand that because this subject is a highly sensitive one, I won't develop it on our philatelic NG. Just to finally mention that I had the privilege to listen to some stories told by several persons who in 1948 were neither in Damascus nor in the US but on the Holy Land. Victor Manta ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Philatelic Webmasters Organization: http://www.pwmo.org/ Art on Stamps: http://www.values.ch/ Romania by Stamps: http://www.marci-postale.com/ Communism on Stamps: http://www.values.ch/communism/ Spanish North Africa: http://www.values.ch/sna-site/ ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- |
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"J. A. Mc." wrote in message
... On Fri, 6 Aug 2004 17:12:17 +0200, "Victor Manta" found these unused words floating about: "A.E. Gelat" wrote in message ... snip In 1948, the first Arab-Israeli war started and Lebanon was flooded with Palestinian refugees that were forced out by the Israelis or who fled the fighting. snip Tony There are different opinions on this subject. In 1973, Khaled al-'Azm, who served as Prime Minister of Syria in 1948 and 1949, published his memoirs in Beirut. He includes the following: We have brought destruction upon a million Arab refugees, by calling upon them and pleading with them to leave their lands, their homes, their work and their business, and we have caused them to be barren and unemployed though each one of them had been working and qualified in a trade from which he could make a living. In addition, we accustomed them to begging for hand-outs and to suffice with what little the UN organisation would allocate them. More on: http://www.palestinefacts.org/pf_ind...arabs_what.php or on: http://www.eretzyisroel.org/~peters/refugees2.html Victor Manta But Victor! That's not P.C. !!! G John, Hopefully it isn't politically correct, and it is correct otherwise :-) Maybe it is also an opportunity for those who, voluntarily or not, insert into their postings some controversial or unproved things (that very often are OT for this NG, like those related to actual politics - see above, environment - see the recent thread about the damage from self-adhesives, etc., etc.) to check their premises. Victor Manta ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Philatelic Webmasters Organization: http://www.pwmo.org/ Art on Stamps: http://www.values.ch/ Romania by Stamps: http://www.marci-postale.com/ Communism on Stamps: http://www.values.ch/communism/ Spanish North Africa: http://www.values.ch/sna-site/ ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- |
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