Mr. Jaggers wrote:
George D wrote:
Mr. Jaggers wrote:
Bruce Remick wrote:
"George D" wrote in message
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As the documents change daily I know not how to do that and even
if I could find the most current of them I am not sufficiently
knowledgeable to be able to understand what they say and than
determine what the real effect will be if enacted. Damn even those
voting on them don't read them as you mention in your last
sentence. FWIW I do not listen to Limbaugh and the sources are from
both
right wing and left wing news. My home pages are azcentral, BBC,
and Foxnews anything else would only cause me to become more
confused. I only know that anytime the US government or any other
government
or quasi government gets started on anything they must grow or die.
This is true from your labor union, HOA, city, state, federal,
fire, or other group.

If the current bills pass into law it will only be the beginning of
a long down hill battle of more freedoms lost. One only needs to
look at what we had 40 or 50 years ago and where we are now to know
what a slippery slope we are on and as the years pass how much
faster we are slipping. You are a teacher of history so you must
know what we have lost in freedoms during this period. Many of the
laws could be considered for our own best interest BUT every one of
them reduces our ability to function independently. We are being
taught to let big brother take care of us and not learn to look out
for ourselves.
I was in college 50 years ago. The only freedoms I have lost since
that time, other than the freedom to be drafted, have been things
like checking in at an airport, walking out the door on the tarmack
to navigate a flight of stairs to my flight, and then lighting up a
smoke. Now we have to get to airport a couple hours early so our
selves and belongings can be searched. And smoke? Forgetaboutit. I
miss our old freedom there, but then we all have to go through the
same thing. Any other "freedoms" I might have lost in the past 50
years are equally as trivial and have little to do with our
government, per se. Which freedoms were you thinking of?
I consider it as having gained a freedom with the
smoking-in-public-places ban. No longer do I have to endure the
discomfort and danger of asthma from breathing secondary smoke or
smelling like a chimney when I leave a restaurant.

James the Nicotine-Addicted


I am a smoker and I understand that some people don't want smoking
near them but in city parks?????


http://www.azcentral.com/news/articl...ng0527-ON.html

I also believe a restaurant should be able to run its affairs with out
government interference. Let the market prevail if people don't want
smoking in the restaurant don't eat there. Non smoking areas or rooms
should be allowed for any business owner... We have been smoking on
this earth for a very long time and these laws are definitely a loss
of freedoms, both for the smokers and the owners of the business.

http://www.tobacco.org/History/Tobacco_History.html

George, I'm prepared to make you a deal!

We'll meet at a restaurant of your choice and sit at adjoining tables. I
will be bringing with me a large bucket of fresh pig manure with a stir
stick and you may bring the cigarette brand of your choice, even if your
choice happens to be Gauloises. As you enjoy your smoke, I will stir the
manure at regular intervals for your dining and dancing pleasure. The only
requirements are that we both eat everything on our plates and tip the
server appropriately.

James the Farmerboy



The difference here is your taking pig manure into the restaurant would
be between you, the owner and his desire to please his customers. My
smoking would be regulated by law. You could be asked to leave I could
go to jail.

George

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YOU! Your money is your liberty. The taxes you pay gently enslave you,
and eventually destroy any human liberty you have. Fear government, pray
for the country.