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Old November 7th 03, 03:56 PM
MikeCouil
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Ok I can see how you could disagree with that statement, but I still happen to
believe he IS a stud. Look at the QB's starting around the league. Plummer is
EASILY better than half of them and he's playing for a VERY collector friendly
team in a good offensive system.

What QB's in the NFL do you consider studs?

There are SO many "stars" right now that aren't doing well AT ALL. I can only
think of a handful of like 10 QB's in the NFL worth half a crap right now and I
would certainly put Plummer in that group.

Both Steve Beurlein and Danny Kannell have looked like absolute garbage in
Denver after Plummer was hurt. Granted, I dont ever remember seeing Kannell
NOT look like crap, but still...

Mike


Many sellers made a killing with Plummer. Going in to this season, how
couldn't he be better starting off the year as a Bronco against weak
opponents? Of course the idiots who buy hot cards would be jumping on
the bandwagon like they always do. What I took exception to was your
line "Like Plummer last season, Dillon is a stud trapped on a pathetic
team" Plummer hasn't been a stud since his days at ASU. He certainly
hasn't been a stud in his first 6 seasons. Dillon has been a stud on a
garbage team every year he's been in the NFL. There's the big
difference.



(MikeCouil) wrote in message
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Jake Plummer is a PERFECT example of why to buy Corey Dillon right now, and
that is the only comparison I used. I never once compared their stats or
argued how good or bad of a quarterback Plummer is.

On that note, I happen to believe Plummer is better than you give him

credit
for, but for now we can agree to disagree. We can also agree to disagree

on
Griese, who I think is a much better QB than you give credit for as well.

He
loses his composure in big games but always seemed to do well in the

regular
season. The great running backs he had? Olandis Gary and Mike Anderson,

who
both went on to have obviously hall of fame careers after rushing for 1000
yards in rookie seasons. With such a scrub at tailback as Clinton Portis,
Plummer has an outside chance at doing just a tad bit better than he did in
Arizona.
I stand by my pick, but if you go search google newsgroups for my posts

this
past offseason, both Dillon and Plummer were strong buys for me because I
really thought Dillon would be dealt or released this past offseason.

On yet another note, I just purchased 3 more certified Plummer autos and

some
PSA 9 rookies. I think once he has a decent first round playoff game

they'll
be worth their weight in gold.

Mike


Jake Plummer is nothing like Corey Dillon. In 6 seasons playing for a
garbage team, Dillon has never rushed for fewer than 1,100 yards per
season. Plummer has done nothing comperable at his position. Plummer
was off to a good start this season, but he had Clinton Portis rushing
and a soft schedule where the Broncos beat Houston, Chicago &
Cincinnati in 3 of the 5 games Plummer started. Even Brian Griese was
able to put up a passing rating over 100 playing in QB friendly
Denver. I watched Plummer's games many times when he was at Arizona
State but he has yet to live up to his potential. This is Plummer's
7th season as a starter and as collectors we're still paying prices
based on his potential? At least with Corey Dillon, you're paying for
6 years of NFL success.




(MikeCouil) wrote in message
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Dillon is a good buy right now. Like Plummer last season, Dillon is a

stud
trapped on a pathetic team (at least in his eyes). I made a bundle on

Plummer
and will on Dillon as well. He IS selfish and he IS a cancer in the

locker
room. I'm buying right now and plan to sell in week one of next season,

after
he busts out for 100 yards and everyone is yelling MVP. I'll get rid

of
them
before half way through the season when his true colors show.

Mike


I'd like to see Dillon get out & stop bitching. I really hope he gets

to
a big market team for the exposure. Then again, many consider him a

punk
ass bitch.

He's been banged up this season - but the MRI on his knee shows "no
serious damage" (http://games.espn.go.com/cgi/ffl/playernewsarchive?
statsId=3879).

Recent eBay prices show how far his cards have dropped:
1997 SP Authentic Corey Dillon Rookie PSA 10 ($100)
1997 Topps Chrome Corey Dillon PSA 10 ($37.25)

Is Dillon a good risk? At these depressed prices? He hasn't been too
impressive this season so far, so if I want his cards, I'd want to hold


them until next season.

What do you guys think?





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