Pour participer à nos (d)ébats, (TC Blair)
sussurait le 6 Oct 2004 04:28:35 -0700 :

Hi all,

die cut gummed
die cut self adhesive
and perfed gummed

In Canada , we also have perfed self adhesive.

2 kinds of gummed and 1 of adhesive?? I do not understand this, for me
it's 2 kinds of adhesive and 1 kind of gummed but it's hard technical
terms in my head...
and in my Canada collection, sometimes I'm very confused in
identifying die-cut serpentine adhesive and so on stamps (

However, I believe that they are fake perfs
and are part of the die cut to make people
relate to them as "real stamps".

For Australia, it's quite easy I think, I will try to explain ;o)

For me, there are 3 kinds of stamps (it's my personnal terms, not
official) and it corresponds (in order of appearance) at the stamps on
this page:
url:http://perso.wanadoo.fr/philatelie-et-cie/imagesdiverses/WAGSAaustralia.jpg

-gummed
the more simple, perfed water-activated stamps ;o)
perf. 14*14 1/2
it looks like a 'real and traditionnal' stamp, easy to recognise

-self-adhesive 'classical'
peel & stick corresponding to die-cut adhesive if I well understood
perf. 11 1/2
it's really different from the gummed and easy to recognise

-sel-adhesive '2nd perf'
peel & stick corresponding to perfed adhesive I guess
perf. 12 1/2*13
it looks like a 'gummed' stamp without attention, but when the
difference is known, it's easy to separate it from the true gummed.

That's for the basis, not too much difficult is it?? ;o)

In addition and according to the Scott, there are issues in coil
serpentine die cut and booklet serpentine die cut or issues in die-cut
and serpentine die-cut, but I do not understand the difference...
It's the same perf of 11 1/2, so any explanation is appreciated.

Michel catalogue gives some varieties of perf for the self-adhesive
classical, but as I said in a previous post, it's too much specialised
for the moment. Let's begin with the 2 kinds of adhesive, take a look
at your stamps, and in the future I can give the Michel details if you
want ;o)

For the 'australian-addict' beginners, I will list the issues with
adhesive stamps (it's a long text). I specify when it's an 'adhesive
2nd perf'.

The first p&s are 2 sports stamps issued in 1990 and 1991:
41c cycling Scott 1185 (issued gummed in 1989)
43c skateboarding Scott 1186 (issued gummed in 1990)

The second p&s set is 'threatened species' issued for expos in 1992
6*45c Scott 1241-1246
(a lot of imprints later in 1994 with NPC inscriptions and different
values)

After this, p&s issues appear more often :
1993 australian trains
6*45c Scott 1330-1335

1993 Dinosaurs
2*45c Scott 1348-1349

1994 Zoos
2*45c Scott1390-1391
it's the first time that p&s and gummed have a different design : p&s
stamps have a white border

1994 Sydney-Hobart Race
2*45c Scott 1397-1397A

1994 ATM Triangle Roo
6*45c Scott 1398-1405
Note: it's self-adhesive stamps but it looks like gummed stamps, this
set is apart in the p&s issues

1994 Roos and Koalas
6*45c Scott 1288-1293
(a lot of imprints later in 1994 with NPC inscriptions and different
values)

From the year 1995, self-adhesive issues are common and many sets have
the p&s stamps :

1995 WW II heroes
4*45c Scott 1436-1439

1995 Centenary of Cinema
5*45c Scott 1446-1450

1995 Marine Life
6*45c Scott 1466-1471

1995 Christmas
40c Scott 1475
the first p&s christmas stamp, it would be regular for following
christmas

1996 AFL
16*45c Scott 1508-1523

1996 Children's Book
4*45c Scott 1548-1551

1996 Pets
2*45c Scott 1564-1565

1996 Christmas
40c Scott 1570

1997 Valentines'
45c Scott 1578

1997 Classic cars
4*45c Scott 1583-1586

1997 Nocturnal Animals
2*45c Scott 1623-1624

1997 Christmas
40c Scott 1629

1998 Legends Gold Medallists
12*45c Scott 1635-1646

1998 Greetings
45c Scott 1648

1998 Farming
5*45c Scott 1656-1660

1998 Rockand Roll
12*45c Scott 1663-1674

1998 Butterflies
5*45c Scott 1695-1699

1998 Year of the ocean
2*45c Scott 1708-1709

1998 Christmas
40c Scott 1716

1999 Arthur Boyd
2*45c Scott1721-1722

1999 Love Rose
45c Scott 1724

1999 Flora
4*45c but BE CAREFUL, it's the first time of the 2 kinds of adhesive
perf, so it makes 8*45c !!
'classical' adhesive Scott 1742A-1742D
'2nd perf' adhesive Scott 1743-1746
(also coil stamps in 'classical' adhesive 1746B-1746E)

1999 Children's TV
5*45c Scott 1753-1757

1999 Rugby
2*45c Scott 1763-1764

1999 Snowy-Mountain
4*45c not in the Scott

1999 Small Pond Life
2*50c Scott 1791-1792
2*45c Scott 1793-1794
(another example of Die-Cut and Serpentine Die-Cut, but what's the
difference??)

1999 Christmas
40c Scott 1797

2000 The last Anzacs
4*45c Scott 1804-1807

2000 Gardens
5*45c Scott 1818-1822 or 1823-1827
slight difference in the perf 11 1/2*11 1/4 or 11 3/4 but looks like a
'classical' adhesive

2000 Paralympics
3*49c Scott 1852-1854
(slight variation of the perf also exists)
2*45c Scott 1855-1856

2000 Olympics Sports
10*45c Scott 1863-1872

2000 Space
2*45c Scott 1915-1916 (perf 11 1/2*111/4) or 1917-1918 (perf 11 1/2)

2000 Christmas
40c Scott 1924

My Scott doesn't go further so I give only a list without numbers (it
would be no more fastidious to read ;o) )

2001 Federation 2*49c
2001 Slim Dusty 2*45c
2001 Rock and Pop 10*45c
2001 Outback services 5*45c
2001 3 sisters (international) 50c
2001 Birds 4*45c in adhesive 'classical' and '2d perf'
(it's the scanned page for the exemple at the top of this very long
message! ) )
2001 Wild babies 5*45c
2001 Christmas 40c
2002 Scientists 5*45c
2002 Lighthouses 2*49c
2002 Racing cars 6*45c
2002 Namatjira 4*45c
2002 Plants from the Bush 5*49c
2002 Magic Rainforest 6*45c
2002 Christmas 40c

For 2003, please see the details in the Oz 2003 topic. I think that
this post is long enough! )

In conclusion, the '2d perf' adhesive is only present (for the moment)
in the Fauna & Flora issues, because of 2 different printers for these
sets.

I hope this description would be helpful, it is not clear, I will try
to 'speak' better or will ask Pierre for a very good translation !

I made a new topic because the post is a very long (I'm sorry for any
disturbance) and it's not related to the 2003 issues.

--
ThibauT
ben vi c'est remoi )