On Feb 22, 9:54*am, Stan wrote:
On Feb 22, 8:32*am, "rod222" wrote:
Thank you Stan,
I have logged your response,
Everyone is stumped so far,
I don't have a great knowledge of Russia,
I am awaiting a closer scan, if it is a prank
the background filagree work should be larger corresponding to
the normal stamp.
No scan forthcoming as yet
"Stan" wrote in message
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On Feb 21, 8:18 pm, "rod222" wrote:
A backside view of the owner's stamp
just in case if offers a clue.
He has since washed it off.
http://cjoint.com/data/0cwcrlg8fEh.htm
Rod--sorry, no direct help, but experience with Germanic, French, and
Belgian cancellations makes me doubt that the cancel is from Yalta.
If "Yalta" is written with five Cyrillic characters, and if Russian
cancels are similar to those I am familiar with from western Europe,
the name will be centered at the the top. *But the top of the cancel
clearly is between the Cyrillic "L" and "T" rather than on the "L"
itself. *Note maybe Yalta in Russian has only four characters. *And
maybe this cancellation is not designed with a centered name/word.
But there certainly doesn't seem to be room enough for two characters
between the Russian L and the star at the bottom.
Guessing that Russian dates are day/month/year, I'd take the cancel
date as 2 June, 1915. *If real, that al least puts a limit on the
issue date.
Rod--the original image had 24 perforation teeth along the vertical
edge. *My copy of the large-format 1 ruble issue of this design has
21. *My copy of the small format 4 kopeck has 18. *Scott lists the
perforation of this issue as 14 to 15 and compound for the small-
format and 13 1/2 for the 1 ruble. *This suggests that the image is
not a blow-up of the small format 4 kopeck because there are too many
perf teeth (24 rather than 18). *It also suggests that the image is
perforated more than 13 1/2 as it has more perf teeth than my 1 ruble
(24 rather than 21), and my 1 ruble does indeed match 13 1/2 on a perf
gauge. *If the arithmetic works, the image should be perforated about
(13.5x24)/21 or about 15 1/2.
My 4 kopeck is pert 15, so it has the maximum number of perf teeth
allowed by Scott's listing, so there should be no chance that a higher
perf 4 kopeck could be the source of the image.
All of the above, of course, assumes there are no other perf options
than given in Scott. *That assumption could be wrong, but that would
still make the image a prank, not a real item. *And the 15 1/2 perf
calculated for the image also raises questions about the genuineness
of the stamp in the image.
There always is the possibility that the cancel woujld give the
explanation, such as being a tax cancel suggesting the stamp is a tax
stamp, etc.
If the simplest explanation is usually right, the "stamp" in the image
is not a genuine postage stamp.
Stan- Hide quoted text -
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Further to Stan's comments, I compared the diameter size of the two
cancellations.
If the 4 kop stamp had been enlarged AFTER cancellation, the cancel
would have
been much bigger.
By the way, In Russian, YALTA has FOUR letters. ЯЛТА (hope it
reproduces correctly)
[If not, it looks like a backwards R, cyrillic L, T and A. ]
Blair