"Joshua McGee" wrote in message
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On Jul 23, 8:41 am, "Victor Manta" wrote:
"Joshua McGee" wrote in message

Great, they have discovered themselves! I just wonder why this
civilization
didn't inform others about their epochal discovery.


Worked so well for them when Europe found out about the continents,
didn't it?
I wouldn't presume that all "native populations wish the secret could have
remained so a bit longer".

"The deliberate taking of a human life was deemed necessary to sanctify
certain ritual occasions

My initial desire was to write something closer to a flame, but, I
will try calmly to note that:

The good part of you won but for a very short time (see the point 4). No
congratulations, because on a ng thou shall not flame, like generally thou
shall not kill. There are no rewards for not flaming or not stealing or not
killing.

1) Your passages border uncomfortably close to a justification for
genocide, and are not remotely relevant to the record of European
atrocities towards native populations

That's your reading of the passage that I cited. Atrocities of one side
don't justify the atrocities of other sites but they are what they are, I
mean atrocities, and shouldn't be forgotten/evaded for any reasons but
condamned as well.

2) Reports of Meso-American cannibalism are almost entirely of
European record, and while some can be historically supported, they
are wildly distorted in the European-American record

My main point were the ritual atrocities. As I understand it, the prisoners
who were then eaten were anyway dead then, so that at least they haven't
suffered anymore (which doesn't mean that this historical fact makes from me
a supporter of cannibalism

3) I entreat you to research European cannibalism during the First
Crusade, which European apologists find convenient to sweep under the
rug

It's not related to what I cited earlier, my point being just that it isn't
a good idea to paint in black only one side, when both of them weren't
necessarily angels. Neither the invading Europeans nor the invaded native
tribes/societies observed what we call today the human rights, the contrary
being true. The results are largely known and can be hardly used to accuse
the ones or the others. This distant past was how it was and it shouldn't be
repeated. The condition that it won't be repeated is that the mankind
observes the individual rights (to life and liberty).

4) Your extreme capitalism, pro-Americanism, and support for
propagandists, become very tiresome very quickly

If this isn't ad hominem then I don't know what ad hominem is. Here we
discuss ideas and not people, and neither me nor other participants. Nobody
should assert for example that Joshua is an extreme pro something and/or a
anti other thing.

If you don't like me and/or my ideas, please consider that this is your
personal choice. Instead of finger pointing you have several solutions at
your disposal, like avoiding posting on controversial issues or ignoring
some authors, by reading only those ones who agree on your particular
Weltanschauung. Of course on this free ng all participants, me included,
preserve their right to rationally and politely react to what they find as
being one sided, unjust, false of simply stupid.

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Victor Manta